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How do bakeries work?

Boxed mixes, icing in buckets? I have a cake recipe I sent to a cake shop here and asked them if they could use my recipe and decorate it. I've never received a reply and I'm thinking it's too intimidating for them.

It's a 4 layer almond cake with a coffee mousse filling and chocolate ganache glaze. Lots of steps but I'm thinking the coffee liqueur and espresso plus sour cream needed is out of their range as well.

by Anonymousreply 106August 21, 2023 8:36 PM

Did you tell them you're gay?

by Anonymousreply 1August 15, 2023 6:01 PM

No R1. Everything so far email.

by Anonymousreply 2August 15, 2023 6:03 PM

[quote]How do bakeries work? ... I have a cake recipe I sent to a cake shop here and asked them if they could use my recipe and decorate it. I've never received a reply and I'm thinking it's too intimidating for them.

That's... not how bakeries work, OP.

Do you try this same trick at restaurants?

by Anonymousreply 3August 15, 2023 6:04 PM

[quote]Did you tell them you're gay?

[quote]No [R1]. Everything so far email.

Do you generally struggle to read social cues and understand context?

by Anonymousreply 4August 15, 2023 6:06 PM

Perhaps there's someone near you who works out of their house making custom cakes. Of course, if you're part of that segment that freaks at the thought of eating food someone actually made in their kitchen, you're SOL.

by Anonymousreply 5August 15, 2023 6:07 PM

OP...

by Anonymousreply 6August 15, 2023 6:07 PM

I was joking. R3 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 7August 15, 2023 6:10 PM

I'm guessing you'd have to find a more high-end bakery to do a cake like that.

The lower-end bakeries probably do use mixes and don't want to fool with someone else's recipe.

by Anonymousreply 8August 15, 2023 6:11 PM

I know you were joking R1.

Can't see R3. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 9August 15, 2023 6:14 PM

Sounds delicious. OP, why don't you try to make it?

by Anonymousreply 10August 15, 2023 6:21 PM

I may R10. I've made it before and it was fantastic, though amateurish looking, but space is an issue now. I may buy some cake accessories to make it a bit easier. A big knife is needed for slicing the domes off the top and cutting layers. Decorating it is the biggest issue I'll have.

by Anonymousreply 11August 15, 2023 6:27 PM

Get a long serrated knife, r11.

by Anonymousreply 12August 15, 2023 6:38 PM

Fuck r1 beat me to it.

by Anonymousreply 13August 15, 2023 6:49 PM

I worked in a bakery years and years ago… I just cleaned up in the back.

No mixes were involved is all I know.

I got the joy of scraping dough off the floors and cleaning all the many metal bowls and beaters.

by Anonymousreply 14August 15, 2023 7:15 PM

R3 😂 😆. Imagine going to Nobu and going in the back and telling the staff how the sashimi should be prepared.

by Anonymousreply 15August 15, 2023 8:37 PM

If you're pouring a ganache glaze over it you don't really need to get the icing perfect. What helps is to put the icing in a piping bag so you can pipe an even layer on. Smooth it out with a bench scraper. I love watching this video of a cake being frosted, so hypnotic.

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by Anonymousreply 16August 15, 2023 8:41 PM

I don’t know if this is real or not but if it is this is why I love gay people. Who else would tell an eatery or establishment how they want a dish prepared and send a recipe. OP you are fkin hilarious. Love you.

by Anonymousreply 17August 15, 2023 8:59 PM

OP, I think you'll find a Patisserie is the place where a better, classier product is made. Perhaps someone like Dudu Outmezgine. Insta @duduoutmezgine He's from Tel Aviv......absolute perfection.

by Anonymousreply 18August 15, 2023 9:16 PM

OP, why don’t you just bake your own fucking cake? Or are you too fat to stand that long?

by Anonymousreply 19August 15, 2023 9:18 PM

I hope you weren't really stupid enough to email your own recipe to a bakery and ask them to make it for you.

by Anonymousreply 20August 15, 2023 9:18 PM

R19 ruins a fun thread with unnecessary meanness.

by Anonymousreply 21August 15, 2023 9:23 PM

[quote]OP, I think you'll find a Patisserie is the place where a better, classier product is made.

The better and classier the Patisserie (and it must be very good, indeed, to be capitalized), the less they will need or want to take on the thankless job of making OP's cake to OP's recipe and OP's expectations.

by Anonymousreply 22August 15, 2023 9:24 PM

[QUOTE]I'm thinking it's too intimidating for them.

It's *them,* not me! 😆

by Anonymousreply 23August 15, 2023 10:01 PM

I’m sure they’re all laughing at that e-mail and your coffee mousse. Good gawd. Why didn’t you just send them the page from Better Homes and Gardens in the mail? lol

by Anonymousreply 24August 15, 2023 11:14 PM

OP? I guess you’re more Betty Cracker than Betty Crocker, huh?

by Anonymousreply 25August 15, 2023 11:15 PM

Go out with a bang, OP

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by Anonymousreply 26August 15, 2023 11:25 PM

Bitch, that coffee mousse is to die for. That crap bakery would be lucky to get hold of my recipe.

Decision made to make it myself. I'm sure it will taste better than some dry cake from a baker and, no, I'm not too fat to stand.

by Anonymousreply 27August 15, 2023 11:36 PM

[quote]I'm guessing you'd have to find a more high-end bakery to do a cake like that.

You can tell them what you want but they're going to be using their own recipe and methods.

by Anonymousreply 28August 15, 2023 11:41 PM

R19 is 100% correct.

by Anonymousreply 29August 16, 2023 2:54 AM

Op is literally preposterous

by Anonymousreply 30August 16, 2023 2:56 AM

Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice...

by Anonymousreply 31August 16, 2023 3:04 AM

The bakery will do a better job than he who must not be named.

by Anonymousreply 32August 16, 2023 4:32 AM

If you are implying I am THAT troll R32, rest assured I am not.

by Anonymousreply 33August 16, 2023 4:42 AM

Which troll are you then R33?

by Anonymousreply 34August 16, 2023 4:43 AM

A long time DLer R34.

by Anonymousreply 35August 16, 2023 4:46 AM

I'm not sure THAT troll is still here. I blocked it long ago. Seemed to disappear along with LL.

by Anonymousreply 36August 16, 2023 4:47 AM

ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT GREG???

by Anonymousreply 37August 16, 2023 4:54 AM

Why take a recipe to a bakery? Why not bake your own cake to your specifications? No drama, no nothing.

by Anonymousreply 38August 16, 2023 5:38 AM

OP, if you were that troll you would be making your own "croquembouche" or some other old world pastry.

by Anonymousreply 39August 16, 2023 5:57 AM

You know what I miss? The Galloping Gourmet guy that used to post here. He was laugh out loud hilarious.

Greg is there any chance of you being more like him?

by Anonymousreply 40August 16, 2023 9:37 AM

OP, I am not a troll.

And I was just about to give you some very good advice in this matter.

by Anonymousreply 41August 16, 2023 9:39 AM

[quote] Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice...

Good morning.

by Anonymousreply 42August 16, 2023 9:39 AM

[quote] Greg is there any chance of you being more like him?

I’m afraid not, R40.

by Anonymousreply 43August 16, 2023 9:40 AM

[quote] I'm not sure THAT troll is still here. I blocked it long ago. Seemed to disappear along with LL.

I am right here.

And I do not like being spoken of in the same breath as LipstickLesbian.

by Anonymousreply 44August 16, 2023 9:42 AM

“OP, I am not a troll.”

Trolls don’t necessarily know they are trolls.

by Anonymousreply 45August 16, 2023 9:47 AM

I don't see anything wrong with what OP did, if the bakery made custom cakes. It's like giving a contractor blueprints to a she-shed you want built in your back yard. Not comparable to a restaurant with a set menu.

by Anonymousreply 46August 16, 2023 9:56 AM

Bakeries have set menus.

by Anonymousreply 47August 16, 2023 10:02 AM

So I had COVID this past Mother’s Day. I was trying to figure out a safe cake method. So I called around to different bakeries and got one that did have a set menu. She loved it when they delivered it. It may just be something with a particular bakery and the way they do things.

by Anonymousreply 48August 16, 2023 10:05 AM

And some make custom cakes, r47.

by Anonymousreply 49August 16, 2023 10:11 AM

Well, I'm very sad to hear that R43.

I wish I could find some of his threads. He was beyond fantastic.

by Anonymousreply 50August 16, 2023 10:15 AM

I thought bakers used a wire to slice the dome off

by Anonymousreply 51August 16, 2023 10:23 AM

[quote] Well, I'm very sad to hear that [R43]. I wish I could find some of his threads. He was beyond fantastic.

I am sorry for your loss, R40/R50.

Best of luck in your endeavors.

by Anonymousreply 52August 16, 2023 10:46 AM

[quote] I thought bakers used a wire to slice the dome off

Yes, of course.

Or a knife with a long, thin blade.

by Anonymousreply 53August 16, 2023 10:47 AM

[quote] OP, if you were that troll you would be making your own "croquembouche" or some other old world pastry.

🥱

by Anonymousreply 54August 16, 2023 10:49 AM

[quote] ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT GREG???

I BELIEVE SO, R37!!!

by Anonymousreply 55August 16, 2023 10:51 AM

[quote] The bakery will do a better job than he who must not be named.

Perhaps, R32.

It will have to be a bakery where everything is homemade, using only the finest ingredients.

It will have to be a bakery of exemplary taste.

It will have to be a bakery that does not make blue roses out of Crisco frosting.

My cakes are unsurpassed in their quality and are understated and sophisticated in their appearance.

by Anonymousreply 56August 16, 2023 10:56 AM

[quote]My cakes are unsurpassed in their quality and are understated and sophisticated in their appearance.

Please immediately start a thread about your cakes R56. Post images of your understated and sophisticated cakes please. I foresee it becoming a DL classic.

by Anonymousreply 57August 16, 2023 11:01 AM

How many 95’ers are on this thread? So far we’ve got Greg and the OP.

by Anonymousreply 58August 16, 2023 12:06 PM

Absolutely nothing in your post remotely resembles the way bakeries work, OP.

Are you from outer space? Or are you Tommy Wiseau? (The latter question may be redundant.)

by Anonymousreply 59August 16, 2023 12:38 PM

R19, 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

by Anonymousreply 60August 16, 2023 12:42 PM

I grew up in a bakery, before leaving home morbidly obese at 17. That’s how good my family bakery was. I worked there, and anyone thinking OP is high maintenance has never delivered and assembled a birthday cake. OP, if this is real, you should know the bakery didn’t return your email because there was no time to do so. Bakeries make the money they do by concentrating on quantity, not one off special recipes. They’d have to pay someone used to baking in huge quantities to do tour one of a kind cake via an unknown recipe, then someone would have to flavor the icing & coffee mousse, wait for the stand alone four layers to cool, assemble it all & hope you showed up to pick it up. Ain’t gonna happen. So why would they waste time engaging in discussion? Find a home baker with a persecution complex or better yet try to bake it yourself. It will give you an appreciation of other people’s crafts.

by Anonymousreply 61August 16, 2023 12:51 PM

A professional baker likely won't use your recipe because they have their own recipes. If they used your recipe and the end-product was sub par, they wouldn't want to be associated with it.

by Anonymousreply 62August 16, 2023 12:58 PM

Who would have the gall to go to a bakery and tell them to use your own personal recipe. That's a lot, even for a Datalounger. You would be better off hiring someone from Task Rabbit to make the cake for you.

by Anonymousreply 63August 16, 2023 1:01 PM

So gerg is still trolling? Gross.

by Anonymousreply 64August 16, 2023 1:11 PM

You could probably work with a local bakery to make a cake according to your own recipe, but you shouldn't arrange it through an email. It's too "outside the box" to solicit a customized order for a small business like a bakery. Call them up and ask to speak to the manager, or better yet, show up in person and talk to them face to face.

"How bakeries work" is how most small businesses work: on a wing and a prayer with little room for risk. Accepting a customized order through a random email is not good business practice from their perspective.

by Anonymousreply 65August 16, 2023 1:46 PM

[quote] So gerg is still trolling? Gross.

R64, you are pretty immature.

You might consider growing up.

by Anonymousreply 66August 16, 2023 9:05 PM

R58/ElderLez, I don't believe the Gergtroll has been here since 95. Just a hunch. It types like a troll who showed up later and has had many names.

by Anonymousreply 67August 16, 2023 9:35 PM

He claims to be as does the OP which seems quite ….coincidental.

by Anonymousreply 68August 16, 2023 9:51 PM

Well, it may well be coincidental, EL.

And R67, I don’t really care what you think, but I was here from the beginning. You, however, sound like a real dimwit.

I was the author of the many ‘Philip from Formaggio Kitchen’ posts.

by Anonymousreply 69August 16, 2023 9:56 PM

I hope you aren't that naive R68.

by Anonymousreply 70August 16, 2023 10:04 PM

What do you mean, R70?

by Anonymousreply 71August 16, 2023 10:06 PM

would you post the recipe please.-

by Anonymousreply 72August 16, 2023 10:15 PM

What recipe, R72?

by Anonymousreply 73August 16, 2023 10:17 PM

Sorry R72. I'm not that one.

by Anonymousreply 74August 16, 2023 10:24 PM

r73 OP's recipe for the cake.

by Anonymousreply 75August 16, 2023 11:34 PM

I asked you a question, R70.

by Anonymousreply 76August 17, 2023 3:22 AM

Okay, I'll bite... OP, if you want someone else to make your cake, hire a caterer or private chef. They'll do that sort of thing.

As for bakeries, just stop and think a minute. You walk in and look at the display cases. A variety of cakes, cookies, pies, pastries, tarts, brownies, and maybe muffins, donuts, and other goodies. Not to mention baguettes, croissants, etc. Everything must be made fresh, every day. That means the staff comes in at zero-dark-thirty and works on a very precise schedule to produce that amazing variety of stuff. No one there has the time to make a one-off cake -not without the rest of the day's items suffering. Customers expect to be dazzled with choices. A bakery that doesn't put out all of that stuff goes under quickly.

by Anonymousreply 77August 17, 2023 3:40 AM

She means you’re lying, Grerg.

by Anonymousreply 78August 17, 2023 4:19 AM

Based on the pictures of your plating I'd say that pastry is not your forte.

I assume that "understated" in their appearance means you just throw icing sugar on it. It's OK. You're Italian. It's in your blood to do that.

by Anonymousreply 79August 17, 2023 4:40 AM

Lemme tell you, I finally blocked THAT TROLL - the one with the horrible recipes, bad attitude and even worse haemorrhoid outbreaks - and DL is completely different experience now. Feels like Munchkinland after the death of the Wicked Witch of the East.

by Anonymousreply 80August 17, 2023 12:36 PM

Can we have the recipe, op?

by Anonymousreply 81August 17, 2023 3:15 PM

Agreed, R80. I cleared my block list recently and accidentally unblocked it. Took about 3 minutes of random browsing to realize my mistake. What a toxic troll.

by Anonymousreply 82August 17, 2023 3:18 PM

[quote]Can we have the recipe, op?

Fine, but you don't really need a recipe. It's just a cup of flour, a cup of sugar and a cup of fruit cocktail with the syrup. Stir and bake in a hot oven until golden brown and bubbly. I serve it with ice cream to cut the sweetness.

by Anonymousreply 83August 17, 2023 3:23 PM

Most every commercial bakery today uses prepared base mixes for their cakes. The mixes come in 50 gallon drums and there are a few different varieties. The bakeries take those base mixes and add things to come produce the different flavor cakes.

by Anonymousreply 84August 17, 2023 3:35 PM

OP I made a gorgeous bundt cake and used a box cake as my base. Really easy. First, 4 eggs instead of 3. Melted butter instead of oil. Add 4 ounces of yogurt or sour cream. I used sour cream. Then use milk instead of water. bake according to directions. ( also put a teaspoon of baking powder in because the cake mix was a couple of months past it's expiration date. Now you can use any box cake mix, any flavor, and make it anyway you like not just for a bundt cake. But it was moist and fluffy and just perfect!

by Anonymousreply 85August 17, 2023 4:38 PM

[quote] I finally blocked THAT TROLL - the one with the horrible recipes, bad attitude and even worse haemorrhoid outbreaks

Terrible recipes? Ha! My recipes are excellent. They've even helped me earn quite a comfortable living.

My attitude is fine. I think I exercise remarkable restraint given the not very nice things people have said to or about me out here.

Have a good day!

by Anonymousreply 86August 17, 2023 5:15 PM

[quote] She means you’re lying, Grerg.

Well then, R78, she is mistaken.

by Anonymousreply 87August 17, 2023 5:16 PM

[quote] Based on the pictures of your plating I'd say that pastry is not your forte.

My plating is very nice, actually. It needs to be when you are charging people a lot of money for your food.

[quote] I assume that "understated" in their appearance means you just throw icing sugar on it. It's OK. You're Italian. It's in your blood to do that.

Then you assume wrong.

by Anonymousreply 88August 17, 2023 5:17 PM

How do restaurants work? Do you cook food there?

by Anonymousreply 89August 17, 2023 8:59 PM

Most restaurants require you to provide your own recipes. Otherwise, they don’t know what to do.

by Anonymousreply 90August 17, 2023 9:11 PM

Pay no mind to that slag Greg. That thing was clearly not raised right.

by Anonymousreply 91August 18, 2023 3:12 AM

[quote] Perhaps someone like Dudu Outmezgine.

Interesting that you mention that, r18! I’ve never eaten Dudu. Have you eaten Dudu?

by Anonymousreply 92August 18, 2023 3:32 AM

[quote] Then you assume wrong.

There’s something we assume right, though.

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by Anonymousreply 93August 18, 2023 3:33 AM

Pay no mind to that minger R91. That thing was clearly not raised right by his slag of a mother.

by Anonymousreply 94August 18, 2023 2:22 PM

The only person keeping this thread alive is a troll and its socks. Even I'm bored with it.

by Anonymousreply 95August 18, 2023 2:51 PM

I had a FB that did the overnight bake at Dunkin. As you probably expect, it waz prepacked bags of dough and icing.

But the sex was top notch. He was skinny, young and had a BBC. I would wait in the bathroom with nothing on except my Van's and smoking dope. When he got to a stopping point, he would come in and rail me in the handicap stall.

Good times.

by Anonymousreply 96August 18, 2023 3:05 PM

Greg I either poorly wrote my post or you misinterpreted it entirely. Does it make more sense written this way? Because this is what I meant.

[quote] Greg, pay no mind to that slag. That thing was clearly not raised right.

by Anonymousreply 97August 18, 2023 3:31 PM

R91/R97, Ah!

Well, thank you then.

Your edits change the meaning entirely!

I love the word, 'slag'.

by Anonymousreply 98August 18, 2023 4:28 PM

R91/R97, if you want to see crazy, go here:

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by Anonymousreply 99August 18, 2023 4:30 PM

Greg I read the first couple of comments on that thread and you completely read the haters to filth and owned them. And written so eloquently too. You are lowkey becoming favorite signed poster on this site.

by Anonymousreply 100August 18, 2023 4:52 PM

Thank you, R100.

I would derive no pleasure from engaging in a dialogue with myself. There's no fun in that.

Much appreciated!

by Anonymousreply 101August 18, 2023 5:13 PM

R101

by Anonymousreply 102August 18, 2023 10:08 PM

R92, sadly no, maybe on our next trip to the Middle East. His pastries look amazing and he's grown better with age. His boys being in the business has helped too.

by Anonymousreply 103August 19, 2023 3:38 AM

Poor Gregory,

So transparent.

by Anonymousreply 104August 19, 2023 3:33 PM

You know I'm going to take OP's question seriously. I always made assumptions about bakeries. We had the local bakery that had been around for years and the supermarket bakeries, etc. and I just assumed some bakers started at midnight and worked all night to give us fresh bread and cakes and pies. But then I realized that there are huge commercial bakeries that make stuff, some of it completely baked and some of it still raw but assembled and all the local baker had to do was bake it. Cookies? Frozen dough, just slice it. I believe the Artisanal and the ethnic bakers still do most things from scratch, but a lot of bakeries do not. Check it out. just Google "wholesale" or "commercial bakeries near me."

by Anonymousreply 105August 19, 2023 7:26 PM

What do you mean, SouthernLib?

You must not think that I am the author of R100.

If so, you just can't stand that someone would say that to me, can you?

by Anonymousreply 106August 21, 2023 8:36 PM
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