Return to the Tuscany Valley for all 9 seasons of the third-greatest 80s primetime soap with the greatest theme song.
Attention 80s Gays: Falcon Crest Streams on FreeVee
|by Anonymous||reply 183||November 27, 2023 11:43 PM|
Does FreeVee have Savannah (1996)?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||August 1, 2023 5:10 PM|
Great, I’ve never seen it. I didn’t watch television in the 1980’s.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||August 1, 2023 5:27 PM|
What is FreeVee and how do you access it?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||August 1, 2023 5:57 PM|
R2, why didn’t you watch television in the 1980s?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||August 1, 2023 5:59 PM|
I didn’t watch it when it new but I watched it here. It is a lot of fun-it is sort of a cross between Dallas and Dynasty. Watching that vinegary old bitch Jane Wyman cunt her way through a scene is entertaining.
Lorenzo Lamas and William Moses were incredibly sexy.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||August 1, 2023 6:03 PM|
There are so many old actresses and actors to which Jane Wyman gave work in guest roles. Some I didn't even know who they were. Eve Arden is even in one episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||August 1, 2023 6:20 PM|
I misread the heading as Falcon cum streams 🤷🏻♂️
|by Anonymous||reply 7||August 1, 2023 6:36 PM|
This was one of the nighttime soaps I never got into. Dallas, Dynasty, and Knots Landing were my favorite, Knots Landing especially, thanks to Ted Shackleford.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||August 1, 2023 8:28 PM|
I lusted for Billy and Lorenzo, but really loved the bitchy Ana-Alicia and Laura Johnson. They were great to watch, and Wyman doing Nancy Reagan Red was priceless.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||August 1, 2023 9:58 PM|
Jane Wyman was a nasty old bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||August 1, 2023 10:00 PM|
I’ll only watch the Babylonia scenes.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||August 1, 2023 10:05 PM|
R11 = Prince’s corpse
|by Anonymous||reply 12||August 1, 2023 10:21 PM|
Angela was evil in a way that Alexis, Abby and JR weren’t. She had no problem throwing her kids and grandkids to the wolves to get money and power.
Remember when she forced Melissa to give up custody of her baby son if she wanted to be named heir of Falcon Crest?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||August 1, 2023 10:23 PM|
[quote]What is FreeVee and how do you access it?
Formerly known as IMDb TV, it's like Amazon's answer to Tubi (and actually carries much of the same content as Tubi). It has some original programming but offers a lot of old TV shows, films and TV movies. You can access it via Amazon if you're in the US (or if you use a VPN elsewhere). It's free with ad breaks.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||August 1, 2023 10:28 PM|
FreeVee also has all 14 seasons of Dallas.
Dynasty is on Amazon Prime.
Knots doesn’t appear to be anywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||August 1, 2023 10:34 PM|
We probably don’t get Knots because of stupid Ciji/Cathy and her singing. Ciji was trashy fun but Cathy was an annoying asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||August 1, 2023 10:37 PM|
Someone uploaded every "Knots Landing" episode, including bonus content (interviews, TV specials), to YouTube a year or two ago and posted about it here but I'm not sure that particular thread exists anymore (nor can I find the YT channel now).
|by Anonymous||reply 17||August 1, 2023 10:44 PM|
FC was at its best IMO when the storylines revolved around the range wars/rivalries between the vintners--Angela vs. Chase, Angela vs. Richard, Angela vs. Melissa. The later seasons really dragged, but I did enjoy when Melissa was really crazy. Angela was so effective at tormenting crazy Melissa.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||August 1, 2023 11:29 PM|
Also, points to Maggie for a particularly gruesome death.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||August 1, 2023 11:31 PM|
Also, I respect the hell out of Jane Wyman's work ethic. Despite health problems, she found the strength to make it back for the final episodes, and wrote Angela's final speech herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||August 1, 2023 11:35 PM|
I hope I don’t regret this, but I’m feeling generous. Knots Landing is on daily motion. Every episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||August 2, 2023 1:17 AM|
What season does the good music start on knots?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||August 2, 2023 1:57 AM|
The scenes between Jane Badler and Jane W. were electric with humor. It brought out a funny side of Angie. Unfortunately they got rid of Jane B way too soon. She was an incredible addition to the show. A fan favorite too. A huge misstep.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||August 2, 2023 2:36 AM|
R2, I’d moved to San Francisco and was busy with work and socializing. I also preferred reading and listening to music so I didn’t own a television set. However, the television is on as I type this. My husband of 27 years lines told watch and I like being in the same room!!
|by Anonymous||reply 24||August 2, 2023 2:39 AM|
[quote] I misread the heading as Falcon cum streams 🤷🏻♂️
That was the name of one of Jane Wyman's other starring vehicles for CBS.
Surprisingly, it never caught on.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||August 2, 2023 2:44 AM|
Jane Wyman was buried as a Dominican lay nun.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||August 7, 2023 5:34 PM|
One last lay for the old dame, eh?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||August 7, 2023 5:38 PM|
I love the scenes between Jane Wyman and Lana Turner, they hated each other so much they couldn’t film the same scene together and would shoot their lines separately.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||August 7, 2023 5:51 PM|
They are in the same scene, right there^^
Lana’s dentures keep slipping there
|by Anonymous||reply 29||August 7, 2023 6:06 PM|
They may have been in the same scene but they didn’t film it together-see how you never see them next to each other or side by sifet, and how the camera goes back and forth between the two of them?
When Jane heard that Lana was going to be hired, she urged Earl Hamner not to do so because “she is not a lady.”
|by Anonymous||reply 30||August 7, 2023 6:26 PM|
No, in that scene Lana literally walks past Jane in a medium shot… this wasn’t like Hayley Mills in The Parent Trap…🙃
|by Anonymous||reply 31||August 7, 2023 6:28 PM|
Loved the show. And some of the seasons are still my favorite TV experience. And some others are so not. Overall the seasons were very different in tone. If I remember correctly the show had (at least) five different showrunners and they all left very distinctive marks. The last season alone had two retools, one at the beginning, one in the middle.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||August 8, 2023 12:12 AM|
I miss SoapNet. There's so many hours of bad primetime soap operas that aren't streamed.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||August 8, 2023 12:17 AM|
The last episode really is the best where they decide the future of FC for the next gen and Angela says that despite all the legalities at the end of the day whoever is the toughest will have it.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||August 8, 2023 3:32 AM|
Maggie’s death was the best!
|by Anonymous||reply 35||August 8, 2023 4:09 AM|
[quote] Maggie’s death was the best!
It had me spinning.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||August 8, 2023 4:21 AM|
Kim Novak is so creepy and campy as Kit Marlowe, and it makes me laugh when she breathlessly says, “OH FATHER” to that old queen Cesar Romero while heaving her tits forward.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||August 8, 2023 4:24 AM|
Jane Wyman in that fright wig always made me think of someone but I can't quite place it...
|by Anonymous||reply 38||August 8, 2023 4:32 AM|
I wish Daily Motion had an app for Roku.
Unpopular opinion: I loved FC’s last, synthesizer heavy, mix of the theme and the crazy wine glass visuals.
I also loved (in one of the early/middle seasons) that when they showed Emma they also featured hot air balloons.
What I didn’t love was the original pilot with Michael Swan, Dorkas, and Jane Wyman in that ridiculous wig.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||August 8, 2023 4:33 AM|
Jane looked like the world’s bitchiest poodle.
Weren’t they planning to bring Chase back from the dead?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||August 8, 2023 4:35 AM|
I think they left it open deliberately when they drowned him in the bay. There was that cliffhanger where they played with the viewers. Angela asks a character in the dark when he would tell Maggie that he was still alive. The audience was supposed to wonder if it was Chase or Richard. But I doubt that Foxworth or the producers of the penultimate season ever considered his return. At that point the budget was already severely constraint and they couldn't have afforded Foxworth and Selby on the show at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||August 8, 2023 5:30 AM|
What's the backstory regarding changing the name from The Vintage Years to Falcon Crest?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||August 8, 2023 5:33 AM|
[quote]I love the scenes between Jane Wyman and Lana Turner, they hated each other so much they couldn’t film the same scene together and would shoot their lines separately.
I remember some bitchy critic in some magazine referred to their scenes together as "Little Orphan Annie meets E. T."
|by Anonymous||reply 43||August 8, 2023 5:36 AM|
R42 - I don't recall all the details, but the show was sued by a writer who claimed they stole her idea (from a novel). I remember it went to trial but not who prevailed. If memory serves, the book was called The Vintage Years. This would've been early 80s.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||August 8, 2023 12:53 PM|
I watched Apollonia’s first episode the other day and a flood of memories came back. She played a cocktail waitress/aspiring singer who met Lance when he fended two rude guys off from her. Lorenzo really was fine as fuck. Watching him mime the words to Sting’s “If You Love Someone Set Them Free” in that scene was hilarious. Ditto William Moses is the fine department. I’d forgotten what a great ass he had.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||August 8, 2023 1:02 PM|
Both of the Moses brothers were hot as fuck. William (Falcon Crest, Melrose Place) and Rick (General Hospital). The latter did not age well (think Randy Quaid level crazy), but William still looks good. Coincidentally, William recently appeared on GH as the recast Jeff Webber. Rick had been on the show 40 years earlier as the sexy prison fugitive "Hutch".
|by Anonymous||reply 46||August 8, 2023 1:09 PM|
I wish Simon had presented hole. He's dead now.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||August 8, 2023 3:55 PM|
Simon was sexy. Greg and Terry never should have been written out. I love what an unapologetic slut Terry was.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||August 8, 2023 5:29 PM|
Well, thank you Datalounge! Thanks to you I started watching Falcon Crest again. And thoroughly enjoying it. The show could be so funny, especially Angela. "It's all Chase's fault." "Was there ever a time when it wasn't my fault?"
|by Anonymous||reply 49||August 11, 2023 12:53 PM|
[quote]Both of the Moses brothers were hot as fuck. William (Falcon Crest, Melrose Place) and Rick (General Hospital). The latter did not age well (think Randy Quaid level crazy), but William still looks good. Coincidentally, William recently appeared on GH as the recast Jeff Webber. Rick had been on the show 40 years earlier as the sexy prison fugitive
|by Anonymous||reply 50||August 11, 2023 3:10 PM|
That old fairy Cesar Romero must have needed 4 cold showers a day during his first season-young William Moses; young Ken Olin; young Lorenzo Lamas and young John Callahan running around the set in tight jeans or speedos.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||August 11, 2023 7:29 PM|
Chao-Li stood by with a fainting divan, R51
|by Anonymous||reply 52||August 11, 2023 10:43 PM|
R50 - That's a different set of hot Moses brothers. Or is that Mosi? Gift of the Mosi? I digress...
Broadway hottie Burke is brother to Desperate Housewives "dad-bod" hottie Mark Moses. Mark's pic is below.
And yes, I'd do all four although Rick is not looking so good these days. A little on the Duck Dynasty side...
|by Anonymous||reply 53||August 11, 2023 10:48 PM|
I liked Burke Moses as Sean Baxter on ATWT. I think he was on another soap as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||August 11, 2023 11:36 PM|
Burke was also on loving as one of the Curtis Aldens.
Let’s discuss that waste of space, Vicki2. She was a such a nasty spoiled bitch.. I loved when Maggie would yell at her or shake her or slap her.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||August 11, 2023 11:44 PM|
way off course but OMG I was in 7th grade when Loving premiered. I still think about the original Curtis Alden.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||August 11, 2023 11:54 PM|
Burke Moses was the original Gaston in BATB on Broadway. Mark Moses was George Deveraux's illegitimate son on "Golden Girls."
|by Anonymous||reply 57||August 12, 2023 3:22 AM|
Simon Greg was once considered to be James Bond. Esther Williams once walked in on a young Lorenzo Llamas, her stepson, masturbating by the family pool. Robert Foxworth was like Mike Brady wanting to rewrite all the scripts thinking they were doing Shakespeare. The last two seasons they stopped doing any shooting in Northern California wine country due to budget cuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||August 12, 2023 4:08 AM|
[quote] Esther Williams once walked in on a young Lorenzo Llamas, her stepson, masturbating by the family pool.
Link to source please.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||August 12, 2023 4:14 AM|
I loved Falcon Crest as a teen. It would come on after Dallas on CBS (Friday nights).....Nancy Reagans "signature" color was RED....And as the gossip went, Angela Channing (Jane Wyman) would make a point of wearing it a lot on FC to piss off Nancy Davis Reagan.. Jane would also never comment or insult her ex husband Ronald Reagan. That was her line when giving interviews and more than once she walked out on reporters who tried it. A class act.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||August 12, 2023 4:21 AM|
Jane Wyman winning her Golden Globe for Best Actress for Falcon Crest. She calls herself a bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||August 12, 2023 4:31 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 62||August 12, 2023 4:39 AM|
Susan Sullivan is close to being my all time favorite. Simply because of her role as Kitty on Dharma and Greg. She ran away with the show. Both Elfman and Gibson ended up hating her because it became the Kitty show for a while and treated her very badly. She can do it all from the grittiest of drama to comedy.
"Oh, you want to SAVE the birds"
|by Anonymous||reply 63||August 12, 2023 1:14 PM|
[quote] Lorenzo Llamas
I tried to lure him to my animal sanctuary, but he said I was like an old Rhonda Fleming!
|by Anonymous||reply 64||August 12, 2023 1:33 PM|
I remember The Village Voice critique of It's A Living, and their love for Susan Sullivan, and their head scratching at the casting of Wendy Schaal. I think the same edition had their review of the last season of Charlie's Angels, and how Gary Frank appeared as a villain on CA, because of course he used to be Willie on Family, and wear sweaters and act sensitive. LOL.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||August 12, 2023 2:46 PM|
I’m watching season 6 and Vicki2 is such an obnoxious cunt, like she was trying to steal the “Nastiest Ginger on TV” award from Ann Romano.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||August 12, 2023 11:20 PM|
Agreed. Vicky2 was not interesting enough to be just entitled. I hated her, but not in a love hate way. I'm not sure Dana Sparks was gifted, but she certainly wasn't given much good material. The was a short arc where Angela tried to develop her to a true Gioberti, and I thought that could go somewhere. But it was aborted very quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||August 13, 2023 12:05 AM|
Vicky2 could have been such a good character if it was based at least somewhat on Vicky1. Two totally different people.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||August 14, 2023 4:45 AM|
If anyone knows the answer to this question a DLer will. Were any of the songs Babylonia sang on the show , in whole or part, did any of them appear in any album. I had her one solo album which I liked but nothing from FC rang a bell.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||August 18, 2023 10:41 PM|
According to this they weren’t, r69
|by Anonymous||reply 70||August 18, 2023 10:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 71||August 18, 2023 10:55 PM|
[quote]Were any of the songs Babylonia sang on the show ,
First, you should be strung up for calling her Babylonia. Second, Red Light Romeo and Look Into The Fire In My Eyes weren’t on any of her output.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||August 18, 2023 11:37 PM|
R72, Jane Wyman would call her Babylonia.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||August 18, 2023 11:41 PM|
I am starting season 5 later today. Yesterday poor Lorraine died in the hospital. Cassandra Wilder got two thirds of Falcon Crest. Chase kissed Connie Giannini which drove Maggie right into Richard's arms - and on top of a bomb. Anne Archer as Cassandra is dull as a rock. Did anybody back then seriously believe that she can keep Falcon Crest?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||August 18, 2023 11:43 PM|
I loved Carla Borelli as Connie. She was great on daytime too-she played horny rich bitches well.
One of the soaps (daytime or prime time) should have snapped her up for a long term role .
|by Anonymous||reply 75||August 19, 2023 12:01 AM|
As a naive underage gayling in the 80s I was always fearful about Angela losing Falcon Crest. I seriously thought she could lose it to Cassandra or whoever was trying to take it from her that week. She made it what it was and she deserved all of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||August 19, 2023 12:27 AM|
[quote]As a naive underage gayling in the 80s I was always fearful about Angela losing Falcon Crest. I seriously thought she could lose it to Cassandra or whoever was trying to take it from her that week. She made it what it was and she deserved all of it.
In all seriousness, R76, that's adorable.
Dare I ask what you dialed the phone with?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||August 19, 2023 12:29 AM|
Instead of Diff’rent Strokes. Nancy Reagan should have done a recurring role on Falcon Crest, as Melissa’s stepmother, who is secretly a drug kingpin trying to gobble up Falcon Crest and the Agretti vineyards to use both to grow weed and move cocaine.
Nancy could’ve snorted coke off Lance’s speedo and said, “Mama Like,” while Angela came upon the scene in her poodle wig , with a disapproving look on her face, as Chao-Li gasps.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||August 19, 2023 12:47 AM|
FreeVee isn't free.
Pluto is free.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||August 19, 2023 12:51 AM|
I found Falcon Crest 2 nights ago when I was looking for a movie on FreeVee.
I LOVE FALCON CREST AND ANGELA CHANNING-Today is TCM day Carole Lombard!!
Summer Under the Stars-unless I don't like the person.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||August 19, 2023 1:11 AM|
Sorry Angela but Saturday is Fred Astaire and Sunday is the Goddess, Miss Barbara Stanwyck.
My weekend is all Fred and Barbara, plus friends and the food, and of course, the animals (and Shaun too)
|by Anonymous||reply 81||August 19, 2023 1:47 AM|
I caught the first episode on Prime. Satisfied that I don’t have to watch anymore of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||August 19, 2023 2:08 PM|
R82 - Agreed. I always thought it was the worst of the "hit" primetime soaps of the 80s -- even if its ratings were often decent. But that was mainly due to having little competition for fraus on a Friday night, and having Dallas as a lead in.
While not "great" by any means, I enjoyed the failed soaps "Flamingo Road" and "Secrets of Midland Heights" better than Falcon Crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||August 19, 2023 2:33 PM|
Like all the primetime soaps the first season is terrible. It statts getting interesting in season 2, with the arrival of Richard Channing.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||August 19, 2023 4:12 PM|
Season 2 perks up with Carlo Agretti's murder, and the camp/vamp fest of Jane and Lana. And lots of Lorenzo in a bathing suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||August 19, 2023 7:40 PM|
To me the show is all fun from season 2 to 6, from Carlo Aggretti's murder to Chase vanishing in the bay. After that it deteriorates rapidly with old writers fleeing the show in droves and no showrunner lasting beyond the season ending. It still has lots of highlights, but overall the seasons become quite grim and tedious.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||August 19, 2023 7:54 PM|
Watching that pillowcase Anne Archer try to match Jane Wyman’s cuntery is fun camp, especially when Celeste Holm hobbles into Falcon Crest as Anne’s cunt mother.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||August 19, 2023 7:54 PM|
There's only one thing that Nancy gobbled. It wasn't grapes.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||August 19, 2023 8:50 PM|
Ken Olin was so hot when he was on Falcon Crest. Allegedly Jane Wyman had producers abandon his story line because she didn't want a priest leave the church. Not sure that's an urban myth though. Even the lead doesn't usually have enough clout to kill an already ongoing story line. But why else did they let him go? Clearly he was an asset to the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||August 23, 2023 1:17 AM|
I’ve been watching the Apollonia episodes and Ken really did have quite a bubble butt.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||August 23, 2023 1:59 AM|
Now it’s a fat yet saggy ass…
|by Anonymous||reply 91||August 23, 2023 2:29 AM|
Lorenzo Lamas was threatened by Ken Olin, period. Olin detested the scripts, and said so publically, which probably made him Public Enemy no. 1 to Wyman.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||August 23, 2023 2:31 AM|
Jane also put the kibosh on a lesbian relationship between the murderous Miss Jones and Richard’s nanny Meredith.
Miss Jones was a fun character-a murderous bimbo.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||August 23, 2023 3:13 AM|
Tuscany Valley was also having a humongous death toll. There was hardly a character who left the valley alive.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||August 23, 2023 4:07 AM|
R89 I agree. There could have been so many good storylines for him in addition to questioning tempted hot young social justice warrior priest.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||August 24, 2023 1:16 AM|
A priest being tempted to leave the Church for a woman? What's next, a baby possessed by the Devil?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||August 24, 2023 1:50 AM|
R61 Jane actually looks much prettier in that hair than the style she wore on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||August 24, 2023 4:10 AM|
Her Golden Globe acceptance speech is amusing but she doesn't thank anyone. And obviously gave it no thought beforehand.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||August 24, 2023 9:31 PM|
I just learned that Chase Gioberti was originally cast as JR Ewing.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 13, 2023 3:59 AM|
R99 - Was Patty Duke the first choice for Sue Ellen?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 13, 2023 12:56 PM|
R99 Mary Frann was!
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 13, 2023 12:59 PM|
Funny that both of them went on to other primetime soaps. Frann played the long-suffering house frau on the short-lived "King's Crossing" before she moved to Vermont and married her father.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 13, 2023 1:01 PM|
I am currently watching the fifth season, the one with Morgan Fairchild. I once read that Fairchild left after one season because she didn't find her role very challenging and wanted her to be a more central character than it was. I call b/s on that. I am guessing she was let go. She was actually quite effective in her one season. Fairchild's acting was pretty good, imo.
It's also Terry's last season. Allegedly, she was fired/laid off and didn't leave voluntarily. She was asked if she wanted to stay on for the first six episodes of the following season, but she declined. Bad mistake. Since she didn't want to come back for this episodes, they had her to kill off in the earthquake. Otherwise she could have come back at a later time.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 13, 2023 5:17 PM|
Terry and Greg should have stayed on the show. I liked both of them.
I’d rather have another season of them , and Cole, than annoying Vicky 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 13, 2023 5:21 PM|
At the time Laura Johnson was killed off as Terry, her then real life husband Harry Hamlin was about to star in L.A. Law, and stupid FC could have benefited from the p.r. of their blonde bitch being married to him. Apparently to lure Hamlin, they offered the part of Grace to Laura Johnson, but Hamlin (wisely as it turned out) didn't think that was a great idea, and Susan Dey waltzed right in. But yes, killing off Terry was very stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 13, 2023 5:34 PM|
I find FreeVee lacking. It certainly doesn't carry OUR show.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 13, 2023 5:53 PM|
I’m watching season five for Apollonia and I have two more episodes to go before I’ve watched all of her episodes (haven’t seen them in years). A pleasant surprise in these episodes is buff hottie Daniel Greene, who is as big as an ox and has an ass that I would feast on for hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 13, 2023 6:33 PM|
In the show he is clearly just a plot device. But yeah, he looks great. And Dwayne is exactly who we all wanted for poor Emma.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 13, 2023 8:10 PM|
I thought Terri had run her course. She was pretty one dimensional. I liked the character and her acting but her best if used by date expired at some point. I'm starting to watch Dallas. Why doesn't Freevee have season one?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 14, 2023 5:48 AM|
[quote] I'm starting to watch Dallas. Why doesn't Freevee have season one?
Because that bitch Tina Louise refuses to sign off on their using her image.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 15, 2023 4:26 AM|
Miss Jones has just been brought on to the show. She and Richard are the perfect match from hell - for everybody else.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 15, 2023 7:50 PM|
What is Ms. Jones' first name?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 16, 2023 1:23 PM|
Erin. But for some reason Richard (and everybody else) only called her Miss Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 16, 2023 1:30 PM|
R113 - Did she have the devil inside her, or were those just the long, manicured fingers of Chao-Li
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 16, 2023 2:08 PM|
The Ewings were the trashiest. The Gioberti Channings the classiest. The Carrington the most ostentatious. The cul de sac the most domestic.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 20, 2023 4:50 AM|
[quote] The Gioberti Channings the classiest.
Angela Channing was downright regal.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 20, 2023 5:27 AM|
The Ewings, sitting down in formal clothing, in a formal dining room, drinking red wine out of crystal goblets, eating Miss Ellie’s world famous….chili.
And you just know Jock Ewing was involved in the JFK assassination.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 20, 2023 5:47 AM|
LOL R117. They should have had the Kristin did it reveal, on the Grassy Knoll.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 20, 2023 11:00 AM|
What I always found funny about the Ewings at Southranch is how often they ate breakfast outside by the pool. There's a fucking horse corral not 50 feet away... ain't nobody gonna have an appetite smelling that. They probably all assumed it was Pam's gas from Miss Ellie's world-famous chili con huevos.
And in general, these soap families (especially the Ewings and the Carringtons) had more money than the Pope and yet insisted on all living inside the same God damn house when they hated each other's guts. Gary was the only one with any sense having moved FAR away.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 20, 2023 12:56 PM|
Poor Sue Ellen had to drive a station wagon early on, while Pam, Bobby, Lucy and JR all drove luxury/or sports cars with personalized plates. Guess Sue Ellen did the marketing for Theresa, then picked up the girls for the Daughters of the Alamo meeting.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 20, 2023 4:23 PM|
Sue Ellen was not a main character in the miniseries-she’s not in the credits.
In the pilot she drives up in the wagon with Miss Ellie and Lucy.
I always assumed the wagon was Miss Ellie’s, not Sue Ellen’s, which is why the license plate is Ewing 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 20, 2023 4:52 PM|
R121 - Oh darlin', is was Sue Ellen's car and that's not what the #2 meant.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 21, 2023 12:47 PM|
I just found out that little Joseph grew up to marry Punky Brewster and have five kids with her and become Ashton Kutchers main producing partner!
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 27, 2023 4:07 AM|
They’re not married any longer.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 28, 2023 12:49 PM|
I never understood what happened to Lana Turner's looks as she got older (and please don't tell me "smoking"). She looked so gaunt. I think she tried to stay thin, but it didn't suit her. She could have put on 5 or 10 pounds. Between the way she looked and her lack of any dynamism on this show, she seemed like a sleepwalker.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 28, 2023 1:04 PM|
Her dentures didn't seem to fit too well, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 28, 2023 1:07 PM|
The booze oozed…from her pores.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 28, 2023 10:23 PM|
Ugly ugly hair on wyman! Ugly bitch ass hair!
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 28, 2023 10:25 PM|
Broadway doesn't go for cheap dentures and frizzy wigs!
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 29, 2023 12:40 PM|
Yesterday I watched the cliffhanger of the fifth season, the earthquake. The production value was surprisingly low. I remembered it being much bigger. It was the house's hallway, the winery and Richard's bedroom. All shaky for about a minute, but all confined to these three locations. I guess a shaky areal view could have made it look more epic. But in the 80s, special effects could only do so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 29, 2023 5:16 PM|
Lucy's tits were the trashiest thing on any nighttime soap.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 29, 2023 5:38 PM|
The 5th season FC lost ground to the then hot Miami Vice, ratings dipped and the budget was high, paying ridiculous amounts for Appollonia and Morgan Fairchild. Production values were reduced, hence the tepid earthquake.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 29, 2023 6:54 PM|
Morgan Fairchild was quite effective on FC in my opinion. She usually doesn't get much high regard as actress, but I thought she very much held her own against David Selby and her 'Monica' escapades were a hoot.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 29, 2023 6:57 PM|
Why didn’t they keep Ken Olin? It would have bern interesting to see him leave the priesthood and pursue Melissa or did Wyman nix that too?
Terry was my favorite-all she wanted to do is spend money and fuck, shipping Morgan Fairchild off to the nuthouse, and marrying off Terry to. Lance would have been entertaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 29, 2023 7:18 PM|
Morgan was great in the scene where she confronts her shitty mother about her father’s abuse. I didn’t know she had the chops.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 29, 2023 11:34 PM|
Ken Olin got a show, 30 Something
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 30, 2023 12:04 AM|
Ken Olin’s ass was magnifique.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 30, 2023 12:34 AM|
Ken Olin left FC in the winter of 1986, Thirtysomething didn’t premier until the fall of 1987.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 30, 2023 12:50 AM|
Le Olin’s ass is now très gras.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 30, 2023 1:41 AM|
Terry marrying Lance and living at FC would've made for a fun storyline. Angela's reactions to Terry's snide remarks around the breakfast table would've been a hoot.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 30, 2023 1:45 AM|
R119 - you’re spot-on about the Ewings eating outdoors by the pool! The horses, and it was often SO windy.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 30, 2023 6:13 AM|
If they shot it at a real ranch, wasn't the corral by the pool? If it didn't bother the owners, why would it bother the fake TV owners?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 30, 2023 3:46 PM|
I went to Southfork on a tour years ago when I was in Dallas for work. It is really just a McMansion. It is a lot smaller than it appeared on television, and it looks a lot like the 2012 revival inside-not like the original show.
I seem to recall the patio at the house faced the (small) swimming pool and away from the horses, although it was definitely close enough to the horses that you would be aware of their presence .
The barn where they stored stupid souvenirs from the show like Jock’s Lincoln seemed bigger than the house.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 30, 2023 4:01 PM|
This is the interior they used as template for the interior set of Southfork. It's not the interior from the Southfork Ranch they used for the exterior shots as R143 mentioned. Looks pretty elegant, much more so than the interior sets of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 30, 2023 5:04 PM|
Contrast that to the original Falcon Crest interior, in the Villa Miravalle. he producers made quite an effort to match the original interior.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 30, 2023 5:06 PM|
Why did they bring Rosalind Chao on for a few episodes then dump her. It seemed like they were considering pairing her with Lance or Cole.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 30, 2023 6:05 PM|
r146 wasn't she Chao Li's daughter? She was a seismatologist....she predicted the earthquake. I guess that was her sole function. Producers knew Billy Moses was leaving and they'd already decided to have Lance and Melissa re-marry, so yeah, I guess she could have been meant as a romantic interest for Father Bob.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 30, 2023 6:52 PM|
I thought she was just a story device to prepare for the cliffhanger. Having a scientist about earthquakes coming over for an episode or two made the earthquake in the cliffhanger more plausible, less 'out of the blue'.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 30, 2023 6:54 PM|
More plausible? More than before?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 30, 2023 6:56 PM|
WE never had to resort to anything as silly as an earthquake, and certainly NOT by our fifth season. Fuck, not even in all 14 years. Falcon Crap is more like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 30, 2023 6:59 PM|
[quote] The 5th season FC lost ground to the then hot Miami Vice, ratings dipped and the budget was high, paying ridiculous amounts for Appollonia and Morgan Fairchild. Production values were reduced, hence the tepid earthquake.
The producers could have at least TRIED to lure all those straight boys watching Miami Vice by having the earthquake wholly represented by 10 minutes of Ana Alicia shaking her tits.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 30, 2023 7:05 PM|
Yes, exactly. More than before.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 30, 2023 7:19 PM|
Vicky 2 should have died in the damn earthquake or in that car in the Bay, not Dwayne or Chase.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 30, 2023 7:42 PM|
I just realized that Chase and Maggie had a guest house all of a sudden and then it disappeared. I guess production costs and writing reasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||October 3, 2023 2:00 AM|
Chase was such an asshole to Maggie after she was raped and knocked up. So was Vicky 2-which made the two times Maggie smacked the shit out of her bitch daughter that season more satisfying.
Maggie’s pregnancy and crap family also led to the writers softening Richard, which I didn’t like. The show was at its best when Richard was trying to fuck over Angela or Chase.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||October 3, 2023 2:13 AM|
The show totally jumped the shark with the reveal that Richard was Angela's son, which messed up the backstory completely, Suddenly Richard was older than Julia, trust me it was a stupid plot device which sought to eradicate Chase, and worst it dimished Maggie to a pathetic clinging vine.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||October 3, 2023 2:59 AM|
For some reason I found the revelation about Richard being Angela's son totally a stroke of genius. Yes, completely out of the blue and not plausible. And yet - the dynamic between those two actors made it work. Both characters hated each other and the thought of being connected this way. And yet they couldn't ignore the fact and struggled reconciliating the bond with their disdain for each other. I thought that was excellent drama.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||October 3, 2023 3:12 AM|
I think the reveal that Angela was Richard’s mother would have worked better if they had kept Angela’s husband Douglas Channing out of it.
In the first season he comes across as a good father to Julia and Emma, with a cordial relationship with Angela. It doesn’t make sense that he would have been involved in the kidnapping. It was established early on that Jacqueline was ruthless and hated Angela, so it wasn’t out of character for her to be involved.
I did think it was a stroke of genius to use footage of Wyman in The Blue Veil during the reveal scene.
Also (and I have mentioned this before on another FC thread)-where did the Giobertis get all their money? California wine wasn’t really popular until the 70s. They seem loaded and hugely influential in the state of California, but I can’t see that fortune came just from wine.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||October 3, 2023 3:31 AM|
I really liked the Gioberti castle house.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||October 3, 2023 6:07 AM|
R158 - Need you ask?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||October 3, 2023 12:55 PM|
I think the Falcon Crest money came mostly from volume. Since Angela was ruthlessly gobbling up any vineyard she could get, Falcon Crest probably made more money than others simply because they sold more. Also, a lot of money may have been made during the prohibition (according to Lance), so Falcon Crest was probably big already before Angela took over. Angela also once mentioned that Douglas always resented her family's wealth because she was initially the one with money, not he. According to Angela it was also her father who gave Douglas the start up money for the Globe.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||October 3, 2023 4:09 PM|
Is the actor who played Joseph the same Jason Goldberg referenced above who was married to Soleil Moon Frye?
|by Anonymous||reply 162||October 4, 2023 2:58 AM|
R162 yes wasn't Soleil Moon Frye Puny Brewster?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||October 4, 2023 5:07 AM|
No, she was Punky Brewster.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||October 4, 2023 11:07 AM|
And please stop casting aspersions on her size.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||October 4, 2023 11:08 AM|
[quote] Also (and I have mentioned this before on another FC thread)-where did the Giobertis get all their money? California wine wasn’t really popular until the 70s. They seem loaded and hugely influential in the state of California, but I can’t see that fortune came just from wine.
R158 I don’t know the history but there was a movie called This Land Is Mine in the ‘50s with Rock Hudson and Jean Simmons that was about a California winery family and they didn’t seem poor. California did produce table wines, even though they were considered inferior. There was a wine industry. I forget the brand but as a kid I remember TV ads for Italian Swiss Colony wines on TV (“That Little Old Winemaker, Me”)...a California brand. There were also Roma wines (“Made in California - for enjoyment throughout the world”). I visited Napa Valley when I was around 10 or 11 and it was a rural area unlike it became later, but after all there were vineyards and somebody owned them and the land.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||October 4, 2023 11:30 AM|
R166 I didn’t mean to write, “I forget the brand”, I meant to write that I forgot the region.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||October 4, 2023 11:31 AM|
The show jumped the shark and then unjumped it several times. The first jump is when John Callahan appears as Eric Stavros. The final jump that was never unjumped was when Maggie died and twirled no more.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||October 4, 2023 11:54 AM|
[quote]California did produce table wines, even though they were considered inferior. There was a wine industry.
The bigger issue was that no California wine was sold before its time.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||October 4, 2023 11:58 AM|
That little old. Winemaker, me. (Voice of Jim Backus.)
|by Anonymous||reply 170||October 4, 2023 12:08 PM|
R158 I explained this to you before in the previous thread. From the beginning and over time we learn that Angela throughout her life had invested in a lot of other things other than Falcon Crest. For example on at least three separate occasions we find out that she sits on the board of directors of some bank and with one phone call can buy the mortgage of any property she wants. On a side note they dropped the storyline where Chase and Richard would each get 50 million from Lana Turners estate if they became friends within a year.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||October 4, 2023 1:58 PM|
[quote] I explained this to you before in the previous thread.
Yeah, why don't you pay attention and track r171's posts in an Excel spread sheet so you don't get caught again. You'll get detention next time.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||October 4, 2023 3:22 PM|
R171 has spoken.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||October 5, 2023 2:25 AM|
They should have rebooted FC with a retcon of the last two seasons. They were total crap, so just ignore them all together. That way Melissa and Maggie would still be alive. And no boring Ortega family or Michael Sharpe. Melissa and Lance could've remarried and been in charge of the Tuscany Valley.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||October 8, 2023 2:14 AM|
R174 and we could see how the nine FC heirs turned out as adults.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||October 8, 2023 2:51 AM|
R158 I must apologize. You are right. I was wrong. I'm on S7 for the third time. Angela's assets don't add up. On my fourth round I will keep a ledger of sorts maybe use Quicken. I will also start a list of all the reasons we hate new Vicki.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||November 21, 2023 11:30 PM|
I'm starting S7 next week, just ended S6. I gotta say, S6 already had a drop in quality overall compared to previous seasons. S6 was good when it comes to dialogs, very good actually. But character arcs and stories were suffering heavily. Chase and Melissa were unrecognizable this season. Vickie, well, why was she even onboarded? Dana Sparks was obviously an affordable replacement for William Moses who probably became too expensive for the show. Vickie was the only family member left/resurrected so Maggie still had a family member on the show. But then Vickie was hardly available for Maggie. The Kit/Skyler story was initially interesting but then turned into a story that didn't concern the Channings or Giobertis which made the whole thing useless.
If I remember correctly, things go only worse from here. S7 had its own story-telling problems because of pending strikes and more budget cuts. At least we still have Angela's wit and Jane Wyman's and David Selby's acting to look forward to.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||November 22, 2023 3:34 PM|
The show suffered from not having a strong family supporting unit. Angela’s daughters were pointless.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||November 26, 2023 6:22 PM|
How can I be the first one here to mention Genele, played by Andrea Thompson? I thought she was stunning.
My favorite cliffhanger was Anne Archer’s character telling Angie that she would suffer as her famly (including her mother played by Celeste Holm) had been made to suffer. I wonder if Holm and Wyman both brought their Oscars to set in a sort of “big dick contest.”
|by Anonymous||reply 179||November 26, 2023 6:55 PM|
Anne Archer was such a wimp. Angela could have squashed her without a second thought.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||November 26, 2023 7:02 PM|
Andrea Thompson was great in that show. She started out very Film Noir, torturing poor Frank Aggretti. But when they turned her into a sympathetic character in the second half of her season she was quite effective, I thought.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||November 26, 2023 9:07 PM|
^ Last thing I know, she is now a real estate agent in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||November 26, 2023 10:17 PM|
This Buddy Ebsen character and storyline is one of the worst. The fact that they brought in Eve Arden to say ten lines made it worse. I like how Chase's character evolved or devolved. Maggie even says to him at some point that's he no different from Angela and Richard. All his self righteousness and white knight nonsense was really self centeredness and ego.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||November 27, 2023 11:43 PM|