What is homosexuality? Homosexuality as being? Or Homosexuality as cultural practice?

The article about homosexuality as a “ It’s a shame that this view of homosexuality, as neither fixed biological orientation nor “radical” disruptive force, has been forgotten. Key victories in gay rights have not given way to a “post-gay” moment of self-reflection for those who feel predominantly same-sex desire see themselves not as “other” but as universally human.”

This is far too navel-gazing for me, OP. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, I just want to ride it.

The ex-gay reminds me of celebrity Satanist Anton Lavey.

The article that I was talking about. The closing article: It’s a shame that this view of homosexuality, as neither fixed biological orientation nor “radical” disruptive force, has been forgotten. Key victories in gay rights have not given way to a “post-gay” moment of self-reflection for those who feel predominantly same-sex desire see themselves not as “other” but as universally human. Instead, we see a doubling down of identitarianism, particularly online, where every kink, feeling and sexual experience is ripe for categorisation. The New Left notions of “authenticity” and “finding oneself”, which shaped early gay rights movements have evolved with the internet into what philosophers Hans-Georg Moeller and Paul J. D’Ambrosio call “profilicity”, where one’s identity is a process of obsessive self-marketing. There are now labels for those who want both love and sex (demisexuals), who prefer just masturbating to porn (technosexuals), and who don’t like having sex at all (asexuals).

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I think that it matters because the gays are in crisis, especially with the queers and the trans. It doesn’t help that the Queer and Trans movement carry religious vibes. I am hoping that the discussion could lead to some answers.

Aren’t you guys worried about the future of gay spaces and gay culture? Between the queer community and the rw, homosexuals will have nothing left.

What does being a Black American have to do with anything OP? I am a black American and gay- the two are mutually exclusive.

I take it you attended the Clarence Thomas School of Blackness.

I was born gay. Thanks mom and dad for the 30,000 genes, several of which were a bit different than what most other guys got. Dad's Y chromosomes had some surprises in the genes, or Mom's X chromosomes may have been different. It also could have been the hormones she fed me when I was growing in the womb. But this all didn't happen because nobody found the one gay gene, as people once thought. It appears to be scattered about in hundreds or thousands of genes, or sub-genes. If you are gay, you had nothing to do with making you gay. You were made this way in the womb, before you were born.

Genes carry protein recipes of traits that are passed on from your parents. However, sometimes errors occur in the recipes used to create your body and everything inside it. Some are passed on from previous family members, but are not always used or switched on. Each defective gene can alter different aspects and a cluster of bad recipes will affect the body and mind, which is why some gay people can have different presentations than other gays do. Some may walk fast, others could appear to not have full control of their arms and others lose masculinity and show femininity. Expressive speaking is common.

If anyone reading this knows a parent with a gay child who is embarrassed by the way they act and think, it's time for them to look in the mirror and see who created that gay child.

We hear the phrase, Nature vs. Nurture, but it is definitely Nature And Nurture. The Nature part is the body growing in the womb. The Nurture is actually the womb itself, delivering the apps to it, helping the body on how to navigate itself once birthed and breathing air. There will be environmental motivations outside the womb to join in with the nurturing, as well.

Your muscles get stronger as you grow, you learn how to walk and talk and play. You go from baby to kid. Then one day when you are about 12, a big shot of testosterone you have been holding let's loose. Hair starts growing on your body, your genitals begin to mature, the voice deepens, and you find yourself looking at people in a different way.

If you haven't already had these signs, and see others starting to pair off, they are doing it with the opposite sex. Your feelings are entirely different as you see guys your age looking cute--and you want to be with them. The girls don't attract you. Why is this? Just as all the other signs of puberty are turning on, the switch for your sexuality is doing likewise.

If anything before this big change hasn't showed or given you feelings for the same sex, it becomes undeniable at this point. Even though the signs were there when I was about 8 years old, I had no idea what it meant. Actually, the signs can begin shortly after you are born. They are not very strong signals, but your parents and other adults may pick up on it.

Getting back to the womb where you are in the midst of a 9 month journey, your mom is feeding you, and things can happen. Soon after this has begun, she gives you the first of two doses of testosterone. It directs the genes to make the proteins that create your genitals and the sexual app for your brain. There are hormones that trigger the male Y chromosome that begins the masculinization of the body. One hormone is Cortisol, which is needed to make the testosterone to do so. But, if mom is stressed out during this part of the pregnancy, the body also uses Cortisol to calm her down. It may not leave enough Cortisol to make the testosterone potent enough to do its job right. The body looks male, though. Another hormone discharged in the womb, estrogen, delivers female characteristics. If the recipe sending this is corrupted it may deliver a potent amount to a male baby, giving it a feminine disposition.

Another quirk in the womb is having too many boys in a row. By the third one, the womb is becoming toxic and retaliates by trying to make a female body. Either the third or fourth boy in a row may turn out gay.

[quote]OP: I’m a black American so I feel like homosexuality is more like a condition similar to high functioning Aspergers or racial group.

Being gay is not a handicap or a disability. Neither is being black.

Leave the German Masculinist Movement be. That way Nazis lie.

The wording of your OP is odd, as though English was not your first language.

Being gay is a movement only because it was forced to become one due to hate, violence, bigotry, and fear.

If not for that, being gay would simply be. It is not some monolithic anything.

It's aburd to try to define it in this way. It's like suggesting heterosexuality as being or as a cultural practice. The only reason it needs any form of accommodation is that people attack it as "other" rather than simply accept it and move along with their own petty little lives.

R6, I doubt OP is even black. Probably that GOP troll from PA who was pretending to be black and gay on the internet

Millennials desperately trying to prove that those couple bi or MMF trysts they had doesn't mean they are gay homosexuals.

[quote]What is homosexuality?

I don't know. Ask Lindsey Graham.

This used to be a burning question for me: What made me gay?

I’m older now, and I don’t give a fuck.

R12 I didn't say that being black is a disability. I said that it be better for homosexuality to be seen as a racial group or Aaspegers based on biological reality. As opposed to something that is a cultural movement or socially constructed. It's easy to gatekeep when something is a noun then when it's a verb.

It’s only gay if you’re doing the sucking, if you’re getting sucked completely straight.

Sorry R16. I ain't available and I aint gay!

This post reminds me of the G.W Bush "Gay is a choice lets force conversion therapy on them via Michelle Bachman and her ex-gay husband's conversion clinic" years.

The "German Masculinists" were pedos and the seeds of the Nazi party.

And by posting #2 you've made it clear what you really want to talk about is those icky trans people.

Bye bitch.

(post #3)

As most righteous soul brother of Detroit oblast I too am most concerned of the queer ladyboys and their most serious dilutations of masculinist mens. Men of gay persuasuions should be fuckign the mens and not the ladyboys.

R20. Guuurl.

[quote] I said that it be better for homosexuality to be seen as a racial group or Aaspegers based on biological reality.

If you want to talk about homosexuality being a biological reality, you'd be better off comparing it to being left handed or having hazel-colored eyes. Comparing homosexuals to a racial group is false equivalency and a faulty comparison — as is the comparison to autism with the bonus of applying the canard that homosexuality is disordered. And that's before we get to the whole German masculinist theory. Wow.

I think you're trying too hard to sound intellectual when you're not.

Thank you D13 for your very sensible, rational and reality grounded posts at R7 through R11

OP read these and take them on board. He is absolutely right and the article at R4 is wrong - being gay IS biological

I would also ignore the deluded if extremely pretty Becket Cook linked in OP's first post. He's a sad delusional queen, beautiful but hollow

[quote]R18: I didn't say that being black is a disability. I said that it be better for homosexuality to be seen as a racial group or Aaspegers based on biological reality.

But Aspergers, a form of autism, 𝑖𝑠 a disability. The fact that you categorize it with homosexuality and being black suggests that you think of them as a handicap as well.

[quote] It's easy to gatekeep when something is a noun then when it's a verb.

Nobody is 'gatekeeping' here, and there's no 'noun'/'verb' issues. You have no idea what you're talking about.

'Than,' not 'then.'

You are not what you pretend to be, and whatever it is you think you're doing on this thread, you're doing it badly.

I think Alex Jones explained what causes it one time

There's no such thing as 'ex-gay'.

There is also no such thing as "post-gay".

We are in on this, all the way.

Unfortunately, many people do not, or do not want to, understand anything about gays. They want to believe it is a matter of choice, and therefore immoral. Lately, the prejudices against gays appear to have taken a turn and are on the upswing. Politics and certain church affiliations are pushing against us. They will hold onto the fallacy that people decide to be gay, if they are not educated to the truth. Even then, most will still deny. Actually, educating gays who and why they are, is still very much needed. Recently, I heard about a young man who believes he "caught the gay" from someone he met. If parents don't know why you are gay, they can't explain it to you. Others may know it, but don't want to believe it.

I wrote this to make it simple, so we have a few of the basics in hand. To fill us in on everything, it would take a book. If we have helped at all, and you know someone who is trying to deal with homosexuality, please pass this on.

I learned some of these critical facts from a great science writer from England, Matt Ridley. His books "The Agile Gene," and "Genome," will take you much deeper than this introduction.

This last comment is mine, too. -D13- The sign post box is not working for me. I am no longer an active gay at age 79, but can still write about it. Thanks for reading, my friends.

I know that Soy Milk is big on the Right Wing circuit as the cause of homosexual men. However as a Gen Xer, there were not soy products in our house growing up. And I still grew up to like the mens.