Kingston, NY

It's less affordable than Hudson if you want a nice place.

It's much larger than Hudson.

It doesn't have that ridiculous Hudson strip of overpriced designy arty boutiques. Other than that, it has more artists in the area than Hudson, which is a shit hole.

Neither Kingston NOR Poughkeepsie are "architecturally grandiose" - a description that is so stupid I can even imagine what you are trying to say or referring to.

But yes, it's not creepy like Poughkeepsie is.

R1, you seem to know nothing about architecture.

RE: Poughkeepsie, read up on the development of Marist, Vassar, Eero Saarinen, the Hudson River Gothic movement, Richard Upjohn, Calvert Vaux, Alexander Jackson Davis at Springside and, you know, actually look at some fucking buildings.

You glass-brained fucking philistine.

I shot a Hallmark movie there a few years ago. It has some charm but I was told crime was a big problem, and the biggest nicest house on the block we took over seemed abandoned, which was kind of creepy.

According to Mark Frost it was one of the inspirations for Twin Peaks in, well. Twin Peaks.

Cute gay Daniel Kanter restored a Greek Revival there for himself & blogged it. Luann also moved there briefly after her Palm Springs arrest.

Well, this went into the ground like a fucking dart.

Isn’t Kingston, NY dangerous? It has a very rough feel.

R2 curious about your thoughts on Newburgh, NY and their architecture.

In Kingston all seems to breathe freedom and peace and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

Kingston is fine but it’s technically on the “wrong” side of the river.

I was born in Rhinebeck - it was a quaint, sleepy village back then.

Kingston is still gentrifying. Housing prices during COVID went through the roof in the nice parts, driven by NYC dwellers looking to escape. But like Poughkeepsie there is still significant urban blight and high crime.

R10, at least it lacks cat-hair pah.

r13 True. It ain’t “Small-town Kingston!”

We prefer Peekskill to both of those places.

Kingston is far out. Past where metro north runs. Hard to see why people would move there from NY if they still need to sometimes go into the city.

R16 Amtrak Runs from NYC to Kingston. Many NYers with weekend homes have cars.

New York State is so beautiful. I don’t see what’s wrong with any of those smaller cities

Isn't Kingston where IBM had a huge campus that they basically abandoned? Or is that another Hudson river town ? It's been years, but we went with friends one weekend who were looking for a weekend house , and I'm pretty sure Kingston was among the places we went. You could tell at one time it had had wealthy residents, who worked at IBM. But then when it closed, those people left and their houses went to shit.

I remember driving through it and one street would be filled with beautiful restored houses. And then the next street would look like Newark.

Come to think of it, I may be thinking of New Paltz.

Kingston/Rhinebeck is where Ramona Singer is from originally.

And where Tinsley Mortimer said of LuAnn's little bird nest house, "If I lived here, I'd have to drink."

[quote]Kingston/Rhinebeck is where Ramona Singer is from originally.

And she received nothing from my estate...for reasons that are well known to her.

Tell me about Peekskill USA. It looks so glorious and All American on The Facts of Life. Are the rumors true that it is the perfect town?

Metro North and Amtrak run on the Eastern shore of the Hudson. Metro North ends at Poughkeepsie. There is NO TRAIN SERVICE to Kingston or anywhere on the Western shore.

Those of us on the west side of the Hudson can afford automobiles.

Kingston, Poughkeepsie and Fishkill all had huge IBM campuses. The blow was severe.

Who the hell is LuAnn?

^ the Countess de Lesseps

Correct r23 but Amtrak stops at Rhinecliff which is 5 miles from the Kingston Rhinecliff bridge.

I dunno if anyone was in NYC like I was in the 90s. But Giuliani really got rid of the homeless problem quickly. We all wondered - where did they all go?

Kingston, Poughkeepsie. They all got bussed upstate.

NYC still does things like that r29. In recent years they have busses a lot of homeless people to Newark.

[QUOTE] I dunno if anyone was in NYC like I was in the 90s. But Giuliani really got rid of the homeless problem quickly. We all wondered - where did they all go? Kingston, Poughkeepsie. They all got bussed upstate.

I thought they moved to dumps like Meriden and Waterbury in CT. At least that is what I was told. CT is full of ghetto areas despite it's wealth.

Rhinecliff is directly across from downtown Kingston. However the journey from Rhinecliff over that bridge to downtown Kingston is a LONG haul, north, then south. On shitty, slow moving routes.

R22 Peekskill is starting to gentrify, but it's still primarily blue collar/ Central American population. But it's cute, and the houses are still affordable, especially for Westchester County. Long way to go, though,

One hour commute to Grand Central.

Interestingly, there are a lot of gay couples who have relocated there. I know of at least 12. They're older, like 40+. I don't think a single person would want to live there.

No I don't live there but a close friend (half of a gay couple) does and I've thought about moving, but not yet.

Peekskill sure has changed. Back in 1981 the only POC there were Tootie and Miko.

Is Stone Military Academy still there?

Peekskill never hit the skids as low as Beacon Newburgh and old downtown Poughkeepsie.

West Nyack is my favorite. It's cool. I was looking at properties around Kingston about three years ago and going up to Saugerties too. Great prices on some fabulous properties. Now I don't think you can say that.

how is kiryas joel these days?

No more title for Drunken Luann

Now she's just a drunk.

You have to take a Port Authority bus to Kingston.

R38 Kyrias Joel is in Rockland County and 50 plus miles from Kingston.