Heartstopper

Life imitates art

“In the first episode there's a 10-minute kissing montage, which i think is very, very apt for the season.”

Bash fumbled

Joe hooked up with the wrong cast member fr (but he was young and we all make mistakes).

R4 he likes to be chased and bash zeroed in like a bird of prey.

Need to see him in shorts more often.

From the previous thread: 'I think Joe is just really sweet and professional and doesn’t hold grudges. ' I think you can be all those things without following your ex on a new app. I hope it's just an automatic thing with Instagram and not Joe actively trying to reach out to Bash.

R5 insert cunty joke about his nose

R7 he was out at a play with Tal last night. I think Joe has very much moved on. Tbf hard not to when after 2 years of you making all the effort your boyfriend can’t be bothered to spend more than a long weekend a few times visiting you and looking bored the whole time. Joe seems very concerned with not making his friends feel awkward or holding grudges, he’s also been extremely nice to Connor. I think he’s fully moved on and trying to be nice

R9 I’m confused by this. I realise it’s based on recent follows but wasn’t he with Tobie last night?

R8 I changed it from a hyena to a bird of prey for that very reason

R10 I think he was with Tobie during the day? Tbf I’m just guessing with the play. They might’ve met at drinks or something. I just guessed the play because it’s up joes alley

R9 I don't know. Following your ex to keep up with them is not necessary if you've moved on.

R13 idk why people are taking Joe being pleasant and kind as him not moving on. He’s fucked at least two men since bash, one tragically being a terrible tattoo artist whose awful “art” he consistently likes. He’s tried multiple times to be nice to bash in other low key ways, like liking his post about HTDBW and Connor’s post homage to him. If he was trying to get I’m back I don’t think nights out with tattoo Tal and liking OF nicks thirst traps would be his priority.

R12 ah cool. I actually assumed they were at something Dylan Mulvaney was at because isn’t the influencer model ‘actress’ person here with her at the moment? Regardless, love a Joe story becoming fact. Like that he met OF Nick at a gay bar Aubrey took him to. It was repeated back here as fact by a Bash loving troll. Totally fabricated here

R15 yes, she and Dylan were both at cabaret. I just guessed they met there; if Dylan was paid to or invited to another sponsored event I think she would’ve posted about it or other pics of her or Joe would’ve gone. I also don’t think Tal has moved into plus one status. I think most likely they were all at the play, she spotted and recognized Joe, and cam over to say she’s a fan

Since Joe shared Aubrey’s play announcement and someone on the previous thread noted that Erik Kuhn is the producer, I looked up ticketing information. It runs from October 30th to January 7th. Joe could go support his bestie Aubrey and reunite with Erik after s3 wraps.

R17 as the person who earlier said he should take and fuck Kit, I could unironically see them going to NY together as a post filming fun trip to see the play. They both seem to love it there and have mentioned seeing theatre together

R13 I also think joe has fully moved on and speculated it was an automatic follow all verified profiles thing. That said, if he manually followed bash, makes me think more that bash is likely in s3 and joe is really trying to be on decent terms

R16 love the break down thanks! Even if Tal is a plus one I still wouldn’t consider it serious tbh. That thirst trap that Joe liked of Nick’s was a lot (shall we say). Considering he hadn’t liked a number of much more generic travel posts i think it’s fair to say OF Nick occupies a particular area of interest for Joe

R20 oh yeah I don’t really care what aside from serious dating joe is doing with tal. Much as we want him to have a roster I understand that fame, safety, and personal preference wise he seems to like one guy at a time. He’s starting filming in October, if he wants to fuck around with tattoo tal in the interim and occasionally go with him to things, more power to him

Deadline hears that British actors have voiced reservations about doing interviews and other publicity work during the strike, even when they are on Equity deals.

One publicist said contracts often include a vague provision for “reasonable publicity,” which could be open to interpretation in terms of the volume of promotional work an actor undertakes.

Fleming said members are welcome to contact Equity for specific advice if they are concerned that they are undermining a strike by going “above and beyond” their contractual duties.

“Do you have to carry on doing press and publicity as specified in your contract if you’re on an Equity agreement? Yes. If you’re contractually bound to do ‘reasonable press and publicity,’ what does that now mean? Well, that will depend on the circumstances,” Fleming said.

“What are you objecting to, in particular? Going on a chat show in these circumstances, for instance, maybe a more reasonable thing to object to, as opposed to having a photograph taken.”

R20 Joe used to like pictures of famous men in their boxers while he was seriously committed to Bash. Don't think a 'like' means much in his books.

R23 mate if you want to die on the hill that because of a threads follow joe is secretly pining for his ex, go for it. No one is stopping you. It’s just no one agrees with you. Also, he hadn’t fucked any of the famous men whose pics he liked, he has fucked nick.

R23 yeah, I guess. It’s more the nature of their relationship and the nature of the pic tbh. But each to their own - i definitely see where you’re coming from

R23 Are you the same DLer that was trying to say that Joe and Lego sounded pretty official to you not even 24 hours ago in? Or are two people trying to act like context doesn't matter when Joe likes Nick's stuff?

R26 I just checked and hilariously, yes.

Anyway, do find it funny that joebash updates just retweeted their own 2022 thread of tweets joe or bash liked. I’m guessing their purpose is to try to show bash actually cared sooo much and can’t be a bad guy because he liked a few tweets about joe. Heroic!

R22 Really curious to see if Joe and Kit end up popping up for a small amount of press next week or if the run of stuff they did before the strike was enough for Netflix.

R27 I hate update accounts that editorialize, just post and go.

R28 honestly my guess is their best compromise is something like show up to the premiere and don’t like or repost any anti Netflix stuff. They’re in a better position than most Netflix actors because they have CAA and WME advising them.

R28 even Netflix had a note on their interviews with them saying they were conducted last year (no reference to the strike but amounting to the same thing). I’m not confident about seeing them at all but R30 certainly has a point

R27 Going through that thread and of course one of the posts Bash liked was him hitting on Kit.

R32 still haunted by Connor coming with them to the love lock bridge. Why??

R32 I remember this comment. Even at the time when I was fully convinced he was a great boyfriend, I thought it was a bit fucked even with their whole flirty vibe

Weren’t people complaining how Bash was groping Kit’s abs during London convention?

R34 I think Bash over compensated a lot and used Kit to do it. Like anytime something appeared too loving with Joe, he'd drag in Kit. That's a charitable view though.

R10 Think he was with Tobie earlier in the day. I'm a weirdo who noticed, but Tobie was liking posts after that Joe story but Joe didn't like Will's post at all and didn't follow Lily until the next morning. Anyway, seems he hit it off with her since he left a joke comment on Dylan's post she replied to bad both Lego and Joe liked her latest post. Lego aside, Joe's social circle is expanding and they aren't annoying and talking about pickles.

R24 That's what I don't want to happen but you never know. Pessimism isn't new in this thread. Half the people here are pessimistic about the new season.

Threads is so weird with it's follows I wouldn't look too deep into it. Though not sure about people dying on the hill that because he liked one post from OF Nick while skipping three others it must mean something even if it's doubtful he ever sees OF Nick again for years, well who knows about that.

R38 o do t think people think it means he’s pining over nick to be fair. Just that liking a former hookups posts while either getting into a new relationship. (Tal) or pining over an ex (bash) is a weird move. And tbh it being a post of nick shirtless with his legs spread on a bed is the more important part.

R37 yeah but youre also insisting from day to day that he’s either dating tal or trying to get back with bash. If you’re consistent in one brand of pessimism fair enough but you’re not

R36 honestly I think the bigger thing I’ve noticed in these little hints is how when bash does this stuff Kit somehow involves joe. Looking at joe and laughing while commenting about how bash flirts with him, rubbing joes stomach after bash starts grabbing him, stuff like that. Not saying bash meant whatever was happening with Kit badly but it does come off like Kit felt it was a little odd and didn’t love it in front of joe

R39 I don’t mean to die on the hill really but the major difference with the OF Nick photo that has been ignored is the very clear outline of his dick. Tbh, not sure why I was keeping that to myself except that you never know what the lurkers will get horrible about. I loved that it was the first post Joe had liked in awhile. Think it was more fond memories than anything else. But I’m the OF Nick stan so I would think that

R39 Think people hope it means he's keeping Nick on his roster by liking his post. Normal people like posts from exes and hookups with no issue. Legit think Nick and Joe hit it off as friends who fucked, though the dick wasn't worth Joe spending his last weekend with in the states since he spent it with Kit (Joe/Kit fans you can imagine he got a better offer from Kit now). He didn't like his nipple pic, so don't see the big deal about shirtless on another twink's bed truly.

Tbh if he was pining for Bash or wanting to get back with him, Of Nick is who he'd unfollow. Nobody else he fucks in the future is gonna care.

R41 I don’t disagree with you. I just think people get hysterical over how serious he seems about tal easily and I roll my eyes at it a bit. I think he’s enjoying the fun fuckbuddy who worships his body and will do fun non sex things with him rn. Nick will go sightseeing with him, tal will go to p,and with him. Nice.

R42 Oh yeah, people are very sensitive about it either way. I try not to mention him unless something happens, like the Lily follow, to avoid the mess. Though Lego likes some OF guy stuff too and is friendly with his ex, he's a 30 year old gay guy... so don't think it's he's gonna be as whiny as Joe's ex about that sort of thing even if they are casually dating. Anyway, anyone who gets upset about Lego just repeat Joe's 19 and just got out of a LTR and will very busy in the fall and in the years to come.

R43 I don’t understand why people stress about him tbh. Presumably Joe is being shown a good time and hopefully having his incredible body worshipped. Lego is well beneath him but until he and Kit wake up to themselves and actually fuck I’m glad he’s having a good time

Throwing further up to Joe’s interview where he says (paraphrasing) that the kissing scenes are awful to do but he and Kit make the best of it. I know it’s acting but I choose not to believe that for a second. Not because the kissing looks so good (though it really is next level compared to even more experienced actors with great chemistry) but because irl their level of “comfortability” is exceptional. Sorry guy, I think those scenes are probably pretty easy even with 50 people staring at you

More important than just height difference is size difference. The way Kit tosses him around in the trailer… I’m manifesting my vision of them taking a post filming trip to nyc together and barely leaving the bedroom

R44 my thing with their kissing scenes is — for a rated R or adult show, their chemistry would still be exceptional. For a PG show, it’s kind of unheard of. For instance, I would say for most productions (pg or otherwise), kizzy and cori have actually good chemistry and commit to their scenes. That said, their iconic dance floor kiss was less hot and passionate than even the least hot of the nick and Charlie kisses. You could put any of their kissing sessions from s1, much less s2, in an adult show with a fade to black and I wouldn’t blink. they have once in a lifetime chemistry onscreen. And should take that and apply it offscreen.

This review is seriously detailed, maybe a little bit too detailed for a review. Think some of it was posted already, but never read the whole thing. Confirmed James has a crush on Isaac and not Charlie. Sad!

R44 I tend to believe him when he says the kissing scenes aren't fun. Nobody wants to be told exactly how to kiss someone and have 50 people watch you.

R47 wow that’s basically a full recap. Crazy they released that before the show.

R48 I was joking (but wistfully)

R47 Bradley read that plotline and tried protesting the change with Alice. That sparked jealous bash’s enmity.

R39 You can also just scroll. With the sheer amount of whining in this thread, you can deal with a little more.

R51 sure, I could also have called you dumb, frauish, and annoying. I took a more diplomatic route, but if we’re being honest. Feel free to scroll by this comment tho and continue to fret over bash and tal

R50 Finally figured out why it took Bash and Joe so long to follow him.

R52 Right mate. Going to do the same thing when you complain for the millionth time about Joe being sidelined.

R54 sad when fraus come on the thread and can’t deal with any bitchiness.

R55 Sad when grown men can't get laid so they have to be dicks in a gossip forum. Kindly, fuck off.

R56 so are you not a grown man? Interesting way to admit the allegations are true but unsurprising given twitter fraus are the ones manifesting joe get tied down with bash again.

Also, I made this fucking thread. You can kindly fuck off.

R56 Rosie is back yall, one of her fav insults <3 missed you, unhinged loser queen

R57And I made the previous one you ran through with your whining. God, are all the miserable cunts coming out at night?

R59 you’re catastrophising joes life over a date with tal and a threads follow. You don’t get to project the miserable cunt accusation. Specifically the cunt part. Stop weeping because I think you’re whiny and stupid. Also way to reveal you just don’t gaf and are here to shit on joe by playing off all concerns about his storyline.

R47 it’s a consolation that Alice is clear about Ben’s role in the story and keeping the hatred alive.

Anyway using looks like fans have started receiving joes magazine in the post. Notably none are posting it because they’re annoying, but hopefully in the morning.

R60 And you've been catastrophizing this second season over some reviews. Like I said, you can just scroll and drop the self-righteous attitude.

R63 shut the fuck up and contribute content. Jesus you annoying stupid dick. I tried changing the subject to joes magazine. Please get a life or do the same

Bash looking like a freak and Charlie. One of his friends posted this. @car0smith

R65 Is he on molly? Charlie looks way too hot for him.

R65 He looks sick and dirty.

R66 no clue. She still doesn’t follow bash or tag him, tagged Charlie’s ex in a later post, and Charlie’s ex/potential current man (idk) commented. So might legit just be she thought she looked hot.

Bash strikes me as a man who will get older while the twinks stay the same age.

R68 Ironic, so a future tattoo Tal? I usually find him attractive or okay looking but here he looks so bad.

I mean this is a joe fan so ymmv but I tend to see this may be true, esp considering as I said he followed a random ass influencer he does not interact with on threads but not kizzy or leila

Rotten Tomatoes page for the show updated, currently at 100% for the second season. I think more top critics reviews will start popping up closer to release, interested in seeing if it keeps the 100% or drops.

Joe mentions he’s a huge stress baker and is donating the mixer he used to stress bake in Atlanta to charity. Ngl does not reflect well on bash that he was frantically stress baking to the point of buying a mixer in ATL. But joe is as always an angel.

R65 wtf happened to him. He barely looks like himself

Asked off the pic but lack of tag and the lack of follows (latter more significant), think he and Charlie hooked up but he’s not entering Charlie’s long term roster. Unless Charlie is really leaning into the fame adjacent men as his type.

It's weird as hell he's spending all his time with some random guy he just met who might have a boyfriend instead of his actual friends. While looking like he's on drugs.

R74 It's wild his boyfriend commented on the post. I get being open, but not sure that's how it works exactly. Haven't had a lot of experience with that though.

R75 might be an openness suggested by one party, idk. Either way bash looks disgusting there

Fwiw, joe has apparently followed 12 new people on threads in the past 2.5 hours so either he’s an insomniac or threads is auto following his IG follows.

R75 in my (pretty extensive) experience that’s not how open works. It’s not ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ but I wouldn’t be commenting on posts my SO and his hook up were in together (unless ofc we had all hooked up, which is different and I guess possible here, if Bash didn’t look so filthy)

R66 He definitely looks like he’s ‘partying’ and Molly would be the most obvious choice for that face

R68 I made that argument straight after they broke up. As his type is so concrete I can see it remaining the same, including age range

Either it's auto follows or he's just being nice. If he wanted to get in touch with Bash, he's got his number. Maybe text him to stop drinking so much since the guy looks like he's going through it and not even joking.

R78 I didn't want to say he looks like he's on drugs... but.. um yes.

Literally every tweet about HS sis going huge, fans are hyped. Though I actually think if Alice has any brains (tbd) she will write Charlie’s fixation on nicks coming out as perfect as a sign of his mental illness and OCD.

Looking at the bash pic, the background is either sunset or sunrise. And given how bash looks, guessing the latter.

R81 Randomly, kinda feel the whole RWRB thing was overblown since HS was just doing shitty promotion, but Joe and Kit are gonna destroy it and I don't think people are going to suddenly move on a week later to hyper fixated on two old dudes who look like bros.

I think it part it's like that? He's very concerned Nick will have to deal with what he did and talks about his past a bit.

R65 Bash stans kept going on and on about how he has big projects coming up when it looks like the only thing he has coming up is a rehab stint.

Bash has spent more time with Charlie than he did with Joe in 5 months including their 2 year anniversary

R84 RWRB has been trending on Twitter for days and they're sending invites to some fans to go see it in advance. They will definitely clash a little bit but I think the heartstopper hype will last longer

I have a feeling that between the Prime of it all, my suspicions that it won't do very well critically (mostly because one of the two leads can't act), and the lack of chemistry, it won't have legs. Anyway, reposting this gif because I can.

R84 tbf, that is a big project

R85 fair to say, he’s a cunt

With RWRB it will still get a big response but HS is getting rave reviews which will kill it with casual queer viewers imo

Yeah I’d forgotten to mention this but the prime thing is HUGE. If you look at South America and Europe, Netflix is shockingly more common than prime. I don’t think RWRB is a serious concern for global viewership

R89 someone who was locked out of DL awhile ago posted about it in the late Tapatalk group saying Prime basically isn’t a thing at all in South America.

R87 seriously, the way they committed to the physicality of the relationship is great

R90 It really is.

R87 see it’s this that makes me think HS has nothing to worry about. Not to sound corny but I’m sure RWRB will make the girlies horny, but Joe and Kit are just so ducking cute and make you smile, plus can actually act. HS is the one people will want to rewatch.

R92 Not sure sex is gonna matter when the leads of the movie are broing it up to such a degree. I just hope HS doesn't flop again in the US

And looking forward to Bash stans trying to say he looks hot in that pic. Not that I care, but wonder if he's all pissed off about how his movie is gonna flop even more since nobody can do any promo. He also is too petty to like anything about HS since the HS cast doesn't seem too interested in being his friend over. Steph if you are reading, get him some help.

R93 Did he like the trailer on Alice or Netflix's insta?

R93 Kit seems pretty popular in the USA - his popularity might bring people to the show. He and Joe will keep them there. All these gifs are wild - they just sell the hell out of it

[quote]With the exams on the horizon, Nick and Charlie’s parents aimed to keep them apart so they could focus on their studies but despite their wishes, they kept finding ways to be together in spite of the risk to themselves. However, that time they were apart made for room to develop them as characters, allowing Kit Connor, Joe Locke and their range to stand on their own as Nick and Charlie grew as individuals as they learned more about one another and themselves. Bringing plenty of drama to the table, that adversity would only make them stronger as Nick was forced to navigate his home and school lives as he sought a way to come out as bisexual and Charlie was so invested in making Nick’s coming out experience perfect but he needed to learn that every experience is different and not project his experiences onto him. The latter experience took him on a dark path because he worried for Nick and didn’t want him to go through what he did and also didn’t want to become a burden to him. A roller coaster of emotion for sure, that strong and earned emotional connection between viewers and the characters is taken to yet another level as one can’t help but care for them and want them and succeed in life.

[quote]The writing was strong, however, the best part of this season of Heartstopper, as was the first, is the stellar performances across the board, led by Connor and Locke as Nick and Charlie. As viewers fell in love with their magnetic chemistry in the first season, here, they take it to another level. Now more of an established couple, their love for one another was clearly there but they were still young and trying to find themselves. This time around, much of that fantasy romance is gone as Nick and Charlie has to start living in the real world. Fortunately, Connor and Locke were up to the challenge as the season dove deeper into their characters and they found that depth, hitting some complicated and uncomfortable moments that only brought them closer together.

Had to manually correct Joe's name in this because at some point in the review his last named turned into Cole.

R94 He liked the trailer from Alice. Same with Connor. Ignored Netflix. Think that's the only thing he's liked recently from anyone

The way his anger about Joe is outweighing all of his friendships with the rest of the cast and his own presence in the trailer is crazy.

R98 It's short sighted since he seems he has a decently important role even if some reviews said he was annoying as fuck. Looking forward the screenshots of him being a jealous cunt staring at Charlie for scientific purposes

A very cool gif I am posting for no specific reason.

R65 Honestly if someone had posted this without context I genuinely wouldn't have recognised Bash. He looks like a sweaty, drug addled sex pest. Genuinely can't square it with how cute I thought he was in S1.

R100 Joe's long bambi legs remain my favourite thing about him. What a fucking babe.

Another joe pic from the magazine

Random! But somehow quite cute. I like the jacket.

Some takeaways:

1. As expected Joe is very reticent about fame and seems a little weary of it, though still grateful 2. Inexplicably the author decided the best mention of the pitfalls of fame to give was kits coming out, in an article about joe 3. His trip back home was actually for a 4 day break so he only spent 2 days in IOM, presumably spending the other 2 with the ex from hell 4. He says he doesn’t want to get typecast as a “sweet twink” which is hilarious

R105 I for one would happily watch Joe play a demonic twink, I know he's got the range.

He’s such a thoughtful guy. The sweet twink quote is great. The fans have really fucked him up, poor guy. Imagine having his amazing life and considering quitting acting because the fans have been so brutal.

R107 he’s insanely sweet. He and Kit both, really. The fans are mental. Not to nitpick the author but didn’t love that he mentioned his own discomfort with fame and the downsides and the author jumped to “ah yes what happened to Kit”. Obviously joe cares a lot about Kit but I do think he has his own independent shitty experiences and doesn’t need them to be reduced to his costars.

Guessing it was due to a lack of research by the interviewer, what happened to Kit is the easiest example to use because of how big the story was.

R109 I know, it’s a nitpick but I just don’t really like that this is Joe sharing about his life and his story and it turns into “oh yes Kit”

R108 I mean they did the same think in an article about Ncuti not that long ago. Kit’s the go-to example of the pressures of scrutiny on celebrities private lives and identity, and obviously that even more pronounced when talking to Joe. It’s fucked tbh but it’s being used in everything. That being said totally understand why it pisses people off

R111 I get that. I honestly do think it’s fucked for Kit as well, but joe really deserves to have an article and cover ABOUT HIM not become the “Kit Connor was forced out in case you all missed it” story 4000. Kit is telling his own story, which is great and important, but joes had an equally shit experience with fans and they could’ve looked it up to see, for instance, him mentioning the body image issues he got as a result of the online shit instead of deciding when he talks about this stuff of course he could only be thinking of Kit.

I don't follow the goss, but from this thread I can gather that Joe dated Bash, then they split and Joe has tried to be "nice" to Bash. Are they estranged? Maybe he's more like Ben Hope than we realised!

Prosper’s inability to find a fresh angle to market him is just insane.

R112 At least it’s semi relevant with Joe, imagine being one of the YR guys.

R113 that’s a pretty good summary

R114 this. I hope he gets advice to drop them (I wonder if CAA would make that kind of recommendation)

R115 the day kit starts getting asked about joes body dysmorphia I’ll see it as semi relevant, till then it’ll annoy me. (And tbh I’m being glib, then it would still annoy me because they should get to speak to their own experiences).

R109 Speaks of the caliber of writer at a magazine like Rollacoaster versus places like GQ, New York Magazine, The Guardian, etc. There was some good insight into Joe in this, especially in terms of his feelings about fame, but the writer didn't do enough with it. GQ writer pulled more out of Joe, and that was in a joint interview.

[quote]calebmckeating: Best time in London saw @kitkatclubldn & @strangeloopldn

R118 if it turns out tobie came with joe and tattoo tal to an event bash will be FUMING

Tobie follows anyone he's within a 50-feet radius of, doubt it.

Joe liked Alice’s most recent post pretty quickly, within 5 minutes.

R121 I just checked and she’s really not a looker. Joe is sweet though.

Alice changed Tao’s hair because of fan criticism. Need her to continue listening and to jettison Bash from the show.

R120 He and the Lily person didn’t follow each other either, guessing there was no overlap. Lego doesn’t really strike me as a theater person.

R105 The four days off thing really stood out knowing what we know. Fucking hell Bash.

And he gets invited to events, but just doesn't go to them for those who wondered. Also seemed to suggest he wanted to stay in IOM the whole summer, but obviously got over that.

R122 how she manages to look both like an old woman and a giant toddler is a real skill.

R125 four days, two with Mum and two to have his shithead boyfriend break up with him. What an absolute cunt Bash is

Another boring update: joes threads following has gone up another 5. All new follows are verified users. So think it is a glitch or a setting, not a bash follow.

Even in this blurry ass photo with non revealing clothing I want to bite his ass and thighs and squeeze his tiny waist

R127 I live for the boring sm updates. Aching to chat shit about social blade and how even though I’m sure it’s barely fucking working (no way Kit lost 800 followers yesterday), it still amuses me that it shows how quickly Yaz burns through goodwill with a purateen audience. I knew as soon as she posted those stories that she would lose followers. But, I acknowledge, it sets a bunch of DLers off on the “sm isn’t the real world”

R129 What stories did Yaz post? Yaz is an interesting case in fans don't really seem too interested in her beyond them being performative, but she gets constant hype. Though she's a black trans woman, so not too surprised. Personally I got a soft spot for her. You won't catch her putting up a selfie with a bad angle or praising Alice on main.

R130 absolutely nothing interesting just her usual posey shit that tends to drop her numbers even more. I am not on the Yaz hating bandwagon at all. Being an articulate trans activists and a ridiculous vacuous It girl, all at once is fucking brilliant. I’m here for it

R128 god I hope his Wiccan costume is skin tight.

R132 It should be! Maybe not in Agatha though. Hope the cape doesn't get in the way of his ass, though sadly it will.

And reading the article again, he hates it when people bother people he hangs out with or knows, so not too surprised by his blocking you if you are a cunt.

Here’s something from the NY promo

First promo video from NY.

R134 there is a bunch of new footage in this.

R134 Charlie with his parents looks good. Kit's French is pretty good, feels accurate for someone who speaks it because of a parent that isn't around a ton.

R134 I feel lied to. I thought they were actually sitting as close as they were in the thumbnail. Enjoy Joe's leaning towards him though. The people being fake and Kit wanting to offend the French were funny. Thought that was the passing out scene, but guess it's a blooper

And Joe's kinda glowing there.

R138 It's the scene where Charlie hears Nick speak French for the first time and gets flustered and Nick calls him "mon amour."

This one.

R138 Joe’s definitely is glowing. Still irrationally annoyed he cut his curls short as soon as Agatha finished but Joe gonna Joe

R134 This was very enjoyable. They'll never not be charming together.

Joe is so fucking cute and likable. He and Kit have such a great interview dynamic

R135 I can't lie, RWRB is winning the promo rounds. These little pre-planned videos don't really show the natural banter between them. Also, closing the Louvre to film the show is a big fucking deal.

R144 I don't see it. Joe and Kit are just naturally more charming than the two other actors. Though a shame we won't get much more than those NY videos and some videos they filmed in the fall that will have too much Bash

I liked that short little video much more than that entire GQ thing the RWRB leads did where they just bro’d out the whole time, but YMMV.

This was really cute

Alice whining

They’ll have to delete that surely

R147 Between that giggle and the French...it's rough out here for a Kit stan. Please respect my privacy at this time.

Alice is the most unlikeable person in the world.

R150 thoughts and prayers

Netflix owns it and can do whatever the fuck they want. The comments to her are as annoying as she is. The comic is free and has been out for years.

R153 sorry, I meant that Alice will have to delete the tweet because they sound like an ungrateful cunt (and also contracts etc.)

R148 She tweeted a reply saying she was just joking and it's fun, but you know she's gonna whine on tumblr in a minute

R154 Oh my comment was just in general Netflix can post whatever they want.

R155 She always gotta insert herself somehow. No one was thinking of her. People were enjoying the cute little video and here she comes.

I hope they filmed a ton of videos on that trip.

R148 Deleted already, what did it say?

R148 It's been deleted. Can I ask what it is she was whining about?

R161 That doesn't even make sense, does it? If she's referring to the video that's just been released it's not from the comic, it's from the show. Which Netflix owns, and can do whatever tf they want with as that's literally the contract she signed.

Apologies in advance if she's referring to some other thing that I'm not aware of.

I'll honestly leave the commentary on this new JBC gem of delusion to the rest of you.

R162 To be fair, she's been whining about Netflix for weeks now, calling everything they do leaks. Stills releases, merch going up for sale...

R163 Oh, so she's onto the 'Joe is a whore' stage of the break up.

R165 Must have been that new pic of Bash. But she's been there. Joe is glowing, hanging out with friends, meeting new people and probably casually hooking up with a guy he met while Bash looks like he needs rehab and a shower while hanging out with someone he barely knows who has a boyfriend. One is not like the other.

R164 Honestly at this point clips/images could be released post August 3rd and she'd still be calling them leaks.

ok but Kits thighs in the red shorts

R163 she does realize in this situation bash is the ho? The second joe moved to America they didn’t see him except for pity attendance of his mediocre play and the occasional “cutie!” IG comment while they’ve been hanging out with joe. I mean bash is bitchless because even if he fucked Charlie, it’s because Charlie likes men adjacent to fame, so I guess calling bash a ho is still wrong. But it’s def not joe

Even with the short hair, gorgeous

Trailer at 1.9 million views after 2 days

Do we think there will be any sort of premiere?

R172 depends on if the cast can go. If not, they’d be smarter to cancel the “premiere” but still show it and bill it as a screening with the writer and producer

R163 Must be the only person in the world that hasn’t clocked Bash crawling back to his unwashed friends and Joe hanging out with Kit and Tobie.

Attentive Kit.

R175 they both are super good at paying attention to one another. Hard not to compare it to bash when joe tried to talk to him brushing him off and looking at Kit.

R176 or bash on the phone while they were on a date after Bash finally decided to come to Atlanta. That one interview they did together he ignored him too

Not news to any of us, still a huge bummer.

Max Gao is interviewing the producers if anyone has questions, he's taking them on Twitter and Instagram Stories.

R170 His hair would have honestly been perfect if the curls over his forehead had been left a little looser.

R178 From the FAQ it doesn't sound like they have to decline interviews or promotion, though it's a weird situation with it being on Netflix. I think filming will still happen in October since the actors can't strike. This makes Alice's behavior come across even worse, one she's so blatant about still writing and crying about it and two she keeps promoting the show. Literal teenagers are more self aware.

R181 she also is so unstrategic for not throwing 10K at the WGA just to look good and for goodwill

Another cute slowed down clip.

Now what in the hell is this meant to be, RWRB?

R184 I burst out laughing, I’m sorry, that looks so awkward. I’m assuming it’s before they go talk to the king or whatever. Unless they changed Henry talking about his trauma into an in-person conversation.

This doesn't look much better.

R184

im guessing its before they have the conversation with the king or after they make up i cant tell

They are not beating the no chemistry allegations

you got to hand it to the promo team, releasing things the same day hs is kinda funny

You can tell these sites make money from the fandom with how they promote to them.

R190

the international fans who want to purchase copies lol. Also funny how they mention Joe but there is no Rollacoaster magazine in the picture

More promo vids

That’s super cute but wow oh wow does it expose just how bad that script is

R192 Them taking the mick out of each other is hilarious.

Kit's charlie voice is so damn cute.

Joes little mannerisms to play nic are adorable and agreed with r195 re kits voice

Joe’a inability to keep a straight face at all through a second of that video is so adorable.

I do think it’s funny to remember that kit has said in interviews that joes giggle and breathiness as Charlie are so adorable (true) and impressive and then see him play them up to take the mick out of Joe here. Joe is as always cute as hell

Not to keep roasting the RW&RB chemistry but compare that GQ video with this Swap video. Joe and Kit blow them away.

Oh Yaz.

R200 oh boy the Puriteens aren’t going to like that.

R201 I have a feeling they'll be seeing a lot of those boobies now that she's clearly on HRT. Those little virgins better get used to it.

Wonder what this is?

R203 Im thinking the original soundtrack release.

Did love that promo video. Put them in a room, let them make fun of each other and film it.

He talks so passionately about the most random shit, it’s so funny..

Unrelated but from his Rollacoaster interview, I want to see some of his baking.

Bash commented “obsessed with u” on Yaz’s tiktok

R207 back in his asskissing era. Maybe realized he should pretend to care about trans rights since joe stans will no longer defend him

R192 Ngl, smiled the whole time I was watching this.

Titles of songs from the score:

1. Boyfriend (1:22)

2. Back to School (1:10)

3. Rugby Fail (1:06)

4. T + E (2:29)

5. Exam (0:59)

6. David (1:04)

7. Star-crossed Lovers (1:44)

8. School Trip (1:43)

9. Panic (0:37)

10. All That Mattered (1:45)

11. Slumber (0:51)

12. You Taste Like Toothpaste (1:28)

13. Pair Up (2:24)

14. Best Friends (1:15)

15. What’s Wrong (0:51)

16. Mon Amour (0:46)

17. He Doesn’t Know Me (1:24)

18. I’m Bi Actually (1:30)

19. Out (0:52)

20. Misperceptions (1:48)

21. Sorry (0:55)

22. Prom (1:06)

23. Telling People (1:43)

24. ❤️ (0:52)

R207 He should have used his emotes. Wonder why he's sticking to tiktok lately.

And Variety gave the show a vague good review, though didn't like the teacher storyline being included in a teen show. Eldergays are not allowed.

R210 Hickey scene is 1:28 long confirmed.

R210 Basically gives away the flow of the plot. Guess Prom is the last episode. And fans will be happy about the the Mon Amour

R211

[quote]While the entire cast is compelling, Locke’s sweetness and Conner’s tenderness are particularly moving.

So true.

R214 Just noticed the Conner. Add it to the list of wrong names for Kit

R215 They’ve had a terrible run with their names in the reviews. Joe got Lock and Cole, Kit got Conner and Harrington.

R214 cheesy as this sounds I think that nails what makes them work. Charlie is as written neurotic and highly anxious without many light moments to make him engaging, but joe is just so fucking cute playing him and gives him the sweetest mannerisms. He makes the character genuinely kind so you actively root for him and want him to be happy. And as has been said nick as written is actually kind of a shit boyfriend, but Kit sells the fact that he adores Charlie so it doesn’t matter.

[quote]Undoubtedly, Joe Locke and Kit Connor are the highlight of this cast. The two have a charming on-screen chemistry. They bring the same vulnerabilities that they brought to their characters in season 1, this time going further as the material itself is more mature. It’s simply enchanting to see Joe Locke and Kit Connor playing these characters. Furthermore, Locke deserves to be praised for his portrayal of Charlie’s mental health struggles. He brings a lot of sensitivity to the subject. Kit Connor speaking French is also kind of cute.

R210 Wow. I was clueless there was even an official soundtrack to season 1. So it's just score, and not the songs...?

R219 Yep, just the score and motifs. So stuff like this.

The RWRB review embargo lifted on Twitter, it's actually getting pretty good reviews so far. The guy playing Henry is being better reviewed than the guy playing Alex, but that's hardly surprising I think.

R218

[quote] Locke deserves to be praised for his portrayal of Charlie’s mental health struggles. He brings a lot of sensitivity to the subject. Kit Connor speaking French is also kind of cute..

Finally found the Joe fan review. I'm kidding of course, though kinda made laugh. The reviewer got the characters confused and said Charlie was the bisexual who had to come out Can't get Charlie off his mind.

R220 those are all fan impressions. Which are always absurdly positive.

R222 I skipped past the fan impressions, looked for the reviewers.

R222 There's some press reviews too, or at least tweets

This is, at the very least, a DL lurker.

R225 Has any Bash fan posted that pic yet? I'm still alarmed about how cute Bash from last year turned into a cunty crack head.

R226 I'm about 80% sure that it's being kept in Circles and DMs. They're clocking that Bash looks weird for sure, this is the CC of one of the JBU admins.

R227 Enjoy the implication that Joe broke his heart

R224 surprised by this tbh. Great though. The more fun queer content the better.

Promo.

R227 that crazy bitch is 28. To be full on babying her fav this way over actions of his own choosing is beyond

R227 Which picture is it that we are talking about? Is it a recent one?

R232 at r65

R65 He's never beating the Rat allegations

His perfect expressive face. He is just insanely attractive to me

R235 He's hot even if his hair is too short

R235 he and Kit were really trying keep it together in these. Got the impression they badly wanted to read each other. It’s cute as fuck.

R236 even short it was such a good cut. I’m less impressed by the more recent one which seems more on old form. Let it grow

The most recent joe haircut makes me think he wasn’t on a hot holiday but was back on IOM. Feel like every time he goes back there he gets a haircut from a barber who does not understand curly hair.

I think he got is cut the day of the Self Portrait party as it seemed longer the day before at the tennis. Makes me think he lets groomers do it while they’re getting him ready. He needs a proper permanent stylist who knows what they’re doing

OF nick posting about missing NY. Will believe it’s a veiled reference to missing joes incredible company, perfect body, and gorgeous face. Only sane move

Hilariously, Joe's in NYC. Lucy just posted him.

R241 their friendship is so cute. Even blurry joe looks great. That jawline is unbeatable. The helicopter ride is fun

R241 Interesting. Wonder if he's there for some play audition or something.

Her IG story highlight for this trip only has this one post and says NYC and LA ‘23. So guess he’s going to both

It's a trip to New York City and Los Angeles, she made a highlight for it on her Insta.

That kind of makes me think it’s something related to the show but who the hell knows at this point.

Obviously a coincidence but OFnicks “I miss NY” post is even funnier now.

He's been wanting to move to NY for awhile but probably can't afford to.

R241 okay, I’m gonna need to see him standing in those little shorts. Help a guy out, Lucy. I think it’s safe to say no Premier for him and Kit then, unless he’s planning on a very short trip

R247 maybe he can go for the weekend and meet him for ‘coffee’ again…

God, joes legs. So hot.

R246 I’d think doing anything show related in America would completely cross the line

Pretty sure most film auditioning is on pause rn so actually this does make me wonder if he has broadway lined up (with Eric) and is heading to LA to meet with the agency and sign things.

R250 It doesn't matter where they do press, they're under Equity for HS.

Hopefully he follows people and it clarifies things.

Can't imagine he'd go to the US for promo for HS even if it's under a different union. Assuming either broadway related which is safe or just a personal bestie trip.

Some much needed vacation time/time away from Lego

Joe weirdly following people at strange hours on threads makes sense then. I'd guess it wasn't a glitch or auto follow, but him traveling and bored

Omg his legs

Sorry, didn’t mean to imply it was necessarily press. Just thinking of the Netflix offices on both coasts.

fingers crossed he is going to picket with Aubrey in LA.

R259 Is he allowed to do that?

NY trip is interesting since I can't imagine there's a play he hasn't seen there. Though guess Lucy hasn't. Leaning towards it being semi-work related since there are other places they could go than back to NY

Can he do photoshoots?

R254 personal bestie trip without any tragic hook ups tagging along because they are booked solid for the week.

I guess he could be doing Buzzfeed or something (but they have UK offices) talk shows are offline and to do anything with Netflix he’d have to cross the literal picket line. As everything Netflix is pushing out of him and Kit has ‘previously recorded’ so they’ve obviously really managed to negotiate that position of not strike breaking. I do hope he goes to CAA to get advice to sack his PR (again, I have no idea if this would be something they do).

R261 the Guardian article about Kit had the note about the strike on it so I’m not sure it’s so much about what they can do as what they are prepared to do

R261 I think they can do whatever they want to do for HS, but don't seem too keen on doing it. Something solo Joe would be from his people and not from See Saw or Netflix so seems unlikely to be that. And he can't do anything for Agatha now. Interviews are being cancelled so just can't imagine it's promo. If Kit were there I could go with it's something they had to do, but since he's not doesn't seem like it.

R259 after the sister/friends for life comment if Joe goes to hang out with Aubrey at all I would be so damn happy.

Total speculation but I remember Lucy has posted a few taylor swift songs on her story before and this weekend is the LA Eras Tour. If joe hadn’t already gone I’d say it’s a good bet but who knows

R256 have seen more tweets from people specifically in the past day about threads auto follows so still leaning glitch. But we may never know.

R265 poor Joe if he has to sit through that again.

If Joe and OF Nick meet up in LA I will be delighted. Someone rostered on in every port. Here’s hoping

Apparently the full review embargo on RWRB lifts on the 10th, the day before release, so it doesn't look like Amazon went into this with a ton of confidence.

R269 Yup, never trust twitter reactions, a day before review embargo immediately tells Amazon have no confidence in the movie.

Crazy how easily joe pulls off women and menswear. He must be so fun for holly to work with

R268 nick was in LA a couple days ago. Seems unlikely

What a fucking loser lmao

R273 in case she deletes, which she generally does with her worst joe hate, a screenshot

R274 This cunt. Who just said this a week go when we said that Bash was assless. I wish Joe fans would roast her, but they all got her blocked ages ago. Pablo do your worst

[quote] It is very much a public forum visited by most of the fandom and which has caused some intense stalking of the actor's private lives recently.

Can't get over the side piece of being called someone's boyfriend

I mean even if bash was Charlie’s boyfriend… so? Not exactly impressive that in may he and joe ended things, he allegedly felt hurt enough (as per them) to make joes life hell and try to turn everyone against him, only for his feelings to be so shallow that he jumped into another lovebombing relationship two months later. Sounds like bash though

R275 “Intense stalking” - we all just have access to the same internet as everybody else. They’re lazy because they know gossip will get posted here. What a cunt

Gonna start the rumor Bash was the one cheating since he never bothered to visit Joe

I keep saying he fucked around in Japan. And Billy was in on it.

R278 I’m down. Agree with R279. He confessed when Joe came to see the moderately well reviewed regional theatre production. Joe broke up with him, returned to Atlanta and downloaded Hinge. The rest is the stuff of DL legend

R280 how generous in your praise

R281 his costar is a legend of stage and screen, just can’t bare to be a total cunt about her.

JBC acting like a guy that coked out, flat-assed loser may or may not have fucked counts as an accomplishment to hold over Joe is so funny.

I don’t think he fucked around but I do think he probably either dumped Joe in a really shitty way — so not just dumping him, but blaming him for it and saying he didn’t try hard enough or whatever — or he gave him some crazy ultimatum. I still lean towards bash ending it but, sorry to repeat myself, if I had 4 days off after months of nonstop filming, spent barely 2 with my family I hadn’t seen in ages to come hype up my boyfriend who put more effort into meditating with monks than seeing me, and he did anything other than spoil and validate me, I would absolutely see the relationship differently. Especially if bash went on some whiny rant about how even billy thought bash deserved better

R283 also a guy who, as a deep dive shows, lives off his parents money and seems to enjoy proximity to fame? No real shade to Charlie, don’t want to be a dick to him just because he’s fucking bash. But while he’s beautiful and I think actually a decent artist, not too impressed that his dating history is minor but known actor, Oscar winners son, now bash and not too impressed that he’s clearly financed along with his mediocre brother by their parents. Then again, something bash and Steph can relate to. But not the catch JBC implies. The fact is when joe wants to date seriously, he can have anyone he wants, including a rich, successful hot, talented guy who worships him. Bash will never ever do better than joe. Tragic for him to peak so young but alas.

R274 For once, she had a good comeback. I can't lie. Hilarious that the joe stans and bash stans are fighting this much over a relationship that was never public.

R286 tbh it would be a good comeback if any of it was true. Tragically it’s not. Tal sucks but he’s clearly not serious. Charlie won’t post bash on main and no friends will follow him. So…

R286 tbf only Lego is close to middle aged, and no one seems to be clout chasing. YMMV but OF Nick is only a loser if being on OF is something you think bad. Lego’s fully employed and seems to have a fair few mates. It’s fair to say he’s not good at his job and they seem mainly like dickheads but you can’t have it all.

R288 also Lego is willing to acknowledge joe on main and his friends will actually follow him. His brother met Joe once and followed back. Charlie’s mates spent days with bash and didn’t bother. Sad.

R289 to be clear none of this is said liking tal. Joe can do way better. But bash is still losing the breakup in every way including rebound.

I don’t think anyone thinks Joe is reaching his full potential with either Lego or Nick (or whoever else has made the grade in the last 3 months) but whatever the fuck is going on with Bash doesn’t look great. Wild he looks so fucking different. I think he’s actually probably having a pretty fun time in his own way but wow, Gen Z have got to stop documenting everything. There is no way that photo would have been taken let alone circulated when my friends and I were partying

What do you think hurts JBC aka Iman Kundu more? The way Bash became completely irrelevant the second his relationship with Joe was over? The way Joe looks healthy and happy while Bash looks like a Faces of Meth poster boy? The way Bash had to crawl back to those smelly-looking, unemployed Z-list friends of his because the HS cast blatantly cares about Joe more? The way every Heartstopper fan outside of the 2 JBU mods and their 4 friends hate Bash now? The way even professional reviewers want Bash/Ben out of the picture in HS? The way Bash has been acting professionally for 200 years and has yet to be able to book a leading role in a series? The way Joe swanned in from the IOM and beat him to the role of Charlie? The way Bash is now a side piece that comes second to Sally Fields's nepo baby son?

Anyway, look at Joe and Kit being cute.

It's almost as if Joe's dysphoria and low self esteem have led to him settling for guys who are punching well above their weight. Including (shock, horror) Bash himself. The fact JBC seems to be using that as a mic drop moment says it all really.

R292 It's really unhinged that she's that person, though she did expose herself.

R293 Didn't want to psychoanalyze him too much after that interview and others, but low self esteem, not having the confidence to ask someone out, being overly protective over people in his life who do give him attention and then feeling slightly resentful that he can't make mistakes (aka if he can't make mistakes publicly he'll fuck them privately) is not going to lead him dating anyone worth his time right now. Hopefully he's able to realize he could do better.

R294 Yeah I don't think it's getting into psychoanalyzing territory to say that with the possible exception of OF Nick, Joe does tend to be the 'settler' in hook-ups/relationships and this could be due to him not valuing himself which is something he has hinted about himself. The fact JBC literally confirmed this herself by stating that these guys are taking advantage of him shows a tiny bit of self-awareness... if only she'd connect the fucking dots.

The fact that a broke former grocery store clerk (no offense, you remain a King OF Nick) is the peak of Joe hookups should say a lot about the quality of men he's been seeing.

The score is out and someone realized that they used the melody from Wasia Project's ur so pretty for ❤️, so that's the Wasia song they use for the big moment at the end.

R297 That's a beautiful melody wow.

Thank god it’s not the ts song.

Also, listening to it now and "Pair Up" starts off with what I'm pretty sure is the motif they used for Ben in the first season.

R298 I said this forever ago, but I think Will and his sister would be good at writing scores. I like the melody in Petals on the Moon, too.

R300 Yeah, it’s the one that first plays when Ben acts like he doesn’t know Charlie in the hallway, and they modified it for when Charlie was texting Ben before the meet-up where Ben assaults Charlie. I remember the show also used it when Charlie imagined Nick telling him he’s straight.

Oh, and when Ben tells Charlie that they’re not boyfriends.

R275 You summoned Pablo.

So dedicated to make a second account just to tell her off. A true Joe fan.

Kit putting his hand over Joe's bratty little mouth is my new kink.

R305 Replying to myself but the way his thumb strokes Joe's face a little is very, very hot.

Rhea looking by far the worst in her Cosmo cover is karma. Unclear why it’s the first one Alice and Patrick posted, not exactly a good look to keep prioritizing the white girl not in the comics over the canon black women character.

Neither of them posted the Kizzy one, either.

Wonder if Imogen's modeled after a friend of Patrick's since I seriously can't figure out the obsession with her he has.

R307 absolutely bizarre that she’s now the fav. For a show that trades on its reputation for diversity that this classically attractive blonde woman is being given a more important role is pretty weird

R310 I don't understand a lot of the choices they make. Jenny by all accounts is underused but also constantly mentioned in reviews as standing out and the reviewer wanting more of her, but they give the big asexual storyline to Issac. I know Michael is supposed to be added to the story, but seems weird to redo the whole storyline again, not that I would put it past Alice.

R310 “classically attractive” source? I know you’re probably right. It’s just crazy to me as I find her easily the least attractive of the girls. Not ugly but Yaz and cori are both much better looking and with Jenny I guess it’s a matter of preference but I find her more attractive.

R308 oh good so lead with the white girl and just forget the NB person. Way to be an ally Patrick and Alice.

JoeBashUpdates weeping in a corner somewhere.

I bet Alice is seething the cast won't promote the show since she's got zero issue talking about how she's still writing.

R314 actually deserved, they are an amazing fan account

R315 and promoting her dumbass repackaging of the same book again

R292 devastating read. Also is that actually who JBC is? To be up to this at her big age, my god

R312 yeah, I’m using the most basic parameters. Blonde, tits, blue eyes. Honestly not really sure how she stacks up with straight men but assume that teenage girls love her. Agree that Yaz and Cori are objectively both more attractive I was just thinking more in a very binary way. Rhea is beyond fucking boring to me

R318 oh I’m sure for chubby white teem girls she is the self insert dream, you’re right

She has spoken lmao. “Not bash’s problem” uhhhh bash’s problem is that he no longer has joe

Cosmo haven't posted the Kizzy cover on their grid yet, but it seems they're doing it a day at a time so it'll probably be there tomorrow. You'd have thought P&A would either post one photo a day or wait until all four were out, but as Rhea's was posted today they were probably too impatient to show off their fave.

R322 it’s on their grid, it was the first one.

The bash Stan delusion is so funny

R321 They posted it 3 days ago, I checked when I saw that he wasn’t in Alice’s or Patrick’s Stories.

R322 Oh ignore me then, they are definitely being complete shitheads. Should never have doubted them!

Sorry but they’ve reached new peaks of insanity. Tiny twinky joe apparently now has massive legs. They’re hilariously dumb

R320 lol keep poking at her since she's not even slowly exposing herself as hating Joe and only obsessing about Joe and Bash because she wanted to fuck Bash. She'll say it's Joe fan's fault though.

R320 Bash's current problem is being snorted up his nose as we speak.

R305 That mixed with Joe's brattiness in this video was very hot..

Steph if you are reading get him to rehab. He used to have light behind his eyes and was cute even with the lack of jawline, ass, pecs and annoying behavior.

She and her deluded friends so so badly want bash to “win the breakup” that they’ll convince themselves of anything. Sad to see mental illness in the wild like this

R328 I also like how clearly Kit finds joes brattiness funny. He riles him up a little and then always laughs immediately when Joe is being a little brat. It’s a hot dynamic

I have a soft spot for these comparisons, ngl.

R332 joes jawline will never fail. That’s a cute comparison

R325 This person is going around calling Joe fat

So dumb almost seems like an anti-Bash troll

R334 Also saying Joe has gender dysmorphia by wearing women's clothes, of course the old stand by that Joe is ugly and a whore and and posting that drugged up pic of Bash. Bash fans are fucking stupid though, so maybe it's actually a fan

I love these deranged morons

Something happened or they're just talking shit?

R331 The way they take the piss out of each other but clearly are happy when together makes their dynamic really appealing.

R337 Guessing they realized Joe’s in NY and then going to LA.

Alice finally posted Kizzy. Patrick hasn't got the memo yet.

The Agatha subreddit has the whole rollacoaster interview.

R340 love how much that subreddit adores joe

Speaking of loving joe, DJL taking the opportunity to remind everyone how good his marks were is cute

R340 1k members is crazy. That’s a ton of Joe fans lol.

R343 it’s so fucking cute. I saw they plan to have a Heartstopper Discussion post when the show comes out. Might be bigger Joe fans than DL

Kit spotted?

Not to start a "Patrick lurks DL" conspiracy theory, but he just liked both R332 and R342.

R346 Patrick if you lurk then start hyping Joe more and rhea less, thanks. No one gaf about imogen

R347 never mind he also liked this tweet about adopting Imogen into the paris squad. Ugh

R343 How is that crazy? He has 3.5M on instagram. I'm sure a lot of them are marvel fans. R347 I've seen a few gays say they loved her in their video reactions of S1. I don't know what's up with that.

R349 I wasn’t saying it was bad I’m saying it’s a lot of people for a show that’s so far out. That show is going to be a big deal.

And this was the first time (supposedly) that they saw each other after 6 months. Tell me there is not sexual tension here...

R351 I mean photos Kit took, these videos, the fact that they may have went to some shows. God I need them to just date already.

R352 Apart from the obvious reasons as to why it should happen (chemistry, looking hot as fuck together, no longer having to worry if Joe has a boyfriend that properly values him, etc.), could you imagine the meltdown JBC would have if that happened?

i don't really see them together, though could be persuaded know it would make the 3-4 Bash stans out there have a meltdown since I'm petty like that

R351 I thought the way Kit poked Joe’s shoulder first and then Joe jabbed Kit’s biceps when he said “proper little nerd” was all very very flirty.

Patrick finally remembered Kizzy

R354 They would look hot together but yeah, If that's the only reason people want them together I rather they stay good friends.

I want them together but only once HS is finished. I couldn't deal with the second hand stress if they broke up but were still having to film/do promotion together.

R357 Pretty sure everyone sees that as less of a reason and more of an added perk.

R358 Alice couldn't either!

I think Joe just wouldn't go there even if Kit would obviously not be an ex like Bash. Think the poor guy would be too stressed to have a good time dating him while the show is going. Give it 10 years.

R355 Agree, don't think those scripts called for touching outside of the hand over mouth part.

I would be all for them never dating and just fooling around. Have some fun with no strings attached. I feel both of them could do this pretty successfully as it seems as though that’s what Kit and Maia had going on and Joe is friendly with his hook ups. I feel like they owe it to themselves to have a little fun with each other.

You can tell there's a renewed interest in the show because Kit's America post with Joe on the cover got a likes boost and is now ~9k away from hitting a million. Bet it hits it after the season is out.

Also think if this season viewership spikes a little higher the joe and Kit shippers ans dating speculation will go wilder.

It's been a week since I posted one of these, so this includes the trailer bump. For anyone that wants to laugh, Bash got a +426 combined followers boost over 2 days after he popped up in the trailer and went right back to bleeding followers yesterday. Will got a +1,379 boost, Yaz +279, Cori +730, Kizzy + 496. Tobie's situation is wild, he's only been gaining since way before the trailer and is up 29,310 in the last 30 days, + 3,115 after the trailer.

R364 imagine there’s no strike and they did a puppy interview or a late night show, the shippers would actually die.

R365 Kind of expected Kizzy to have gotten a bigger boost from the “You’re being gay” moment.

R367 I don't think it helps that their account name is a bunch of numbers and they're not verified for some reason.

JBC hiding responses is so funny. That just brings more attention to them.

The new Bash stan that was linked at R322 was suspended already, but not before Shay saw the picture of Bash looking cracked out.

R370 Our fav Shay has been wavering to the Bash hating side for awhile. She liked some anti-Bash tweets after Pride.

R371 I’m torn. I love people seeing bash for a dick, but Shay is absolutely useless and often Accidentally undermines her favs so worried for joe

Patrick said that his favorite episode is episode 8.

R373 given the DLer (who I trust most) said that has an amazing Kit and joe scene, I’m excited.

R374 I know the strikes are important but it's really annoying we won't get any new content/promo for this season. They've grown a lot since season 1 and I was excited in hearing their thoughts in longer forms of interviews.

R375 I hope Netflix pulls a Young Royals and randomly sends Joe and Kit on a press tour in a couple months after the strike.

More of Joe in Rollacoaster.

It's not looking good. Alice is a moron to even complain about having to do her job.

R378 well now her job is extra safe. If that’s the mentality the studios are going to stick with projects made outside of the US.

Bringing this over here because of the mention of a renewal, which I think is likelier and likelier to happen the longer the strikes go on.

On the topic of renewal, Joe and Kit are contractually obliged to act in s3 since it’s an equity project. But I don’t think either of them would want to sign a contract for a fourth season while SAG is striking. So even if Netflix agrees to a fourth season after s2 comes out, it might be a while before it’s publicly confirmed. The most recent estimates I’ve seen have said the strike will likely last until October or later. Neither side is willing to negotiate.

R376 S3 filming will have such a quick turnaround if it's in Oct so probably won't happen. I think sending them everywhere for S3 is a must though.

Joe just immediately liked the clip of Sasheers new stand up special, I love how supportive he is of the Agatha team. I cannot wait to hear what they have to say about him.

R383 If the strike goes on, we won't hear anything from them. This could last months.

They wouldn't say anything until it aired anyway and that should be sometime in 2024, which it should be over by then.

R385 I don't think people understand how bad it is.

R386 Please don't ruin my life and let me live in my delusions

Though seriously, Kit and Joe would not sign for a S4 if Netflix was in part responsible for the strike still going on by the time S3 aired. Time to start auditioning for plays and A24 movies and let Netflix rot.

Looks like Joe and Kit got a NYT feature.

R389 Joe looks good. I can't take Kit's posing seriously. When was this?

R377 he has amazing eyes. the super deep blue is so unique. makes his eye contact especially intense and hot.

R389 That's a great picture

R391 idk why people always said his eyes were brown, they've always looked blue to me

R377 Yes and his eyebrows look good too. I need them to leave their hair like that.

I wish Joe was holding himself a little less stiffly, but that’s pretty much my biggest issue with all of his shoots.

R390 June 9th, there's a solo picture of Kit too. The whole thing isn't out yet, so no solo picture of Joe yet.

R394 another thing to blame PR for, and i'm serious. aside from pitching him, hiring a coach to teach him posing and how to loosen up for shoots is the best use of their time.

R395 I need the HS team to stay away from the scissors. They already ruined his hair in S2.

ok but where is the link, is it an article comming out soon

Tomorrow's NYTs I guess? DJL seems to have press credentials since they can always get pics early

DJL has always been good, but they’ve been especially on the ball lately. I see a lot of stuff from them before anyone else.

R377 those long Bambi legs

the joe bash updates account hast the link to the article via yahoo news but its in spanish

R402 interesting, joe talking about his own coming out. He came out on IG at 12, realized he was actually only ready to tell his mum, so said he was hacked till he was 15. That’s actually a really interesting story I’d love to hear him talk about more.

R402 No solo Joe pics...

R403 It's very Joe. Coming out at 12, posting it on IG, deleted it and then coming out again and everyone saying you already told us.

[quote] Locke wants to be in a Broadway musical, Connor would do Shakespeare in London. If they had free time, Connor would hang out with his friends in a park. Locke wants someone to cook him a mid-morning meal.

Is that some hints. And Bash you fucker, did you never cook him breakfast Great interview though. Joe really got to talk a lot.

R402 The link is not showing me the article. Where did you guys find it?

Like Joe this is your chance you worked with Patti, she likes you. You know the Erick guy and Aubrey is doing off broadway, network the fuck out of this. If he ever did Broadway im buying tickets. If we wants a broadway musical, its safe to assume he isnt terrible at singing???

R402

here , see if this works

R405

Well shit, it doesn't work when linked. Just search for the show and it'll pop up

So with Joe saying he wants to be in a musical I’m now assuming he does actually sing in Agatha. Which somehow has me more hyped.

R395 Finally! You can see Kit's freckles once again. Must have had a different makeup artist...

And the longer hair looks SO much better on him that what they did in the upcoming season. I want hair like this for season 3.

Kit's quote about coming out

[quote] "I have a little more confidence in myself in a very open sense, about who I am, what I can do, the way I hold myself and the people I spend my time with," he noted. "I have a lot more pride.

But then we started talking about coming out, and the mood in the room changed, quickly. Last year, Connor came out as bisexual on Twitter, saying he felt compelled to do so after some fans accused him of pretending to be queer. "Telling someone you're gay or bisexual, or that you're part of the queer community, is something that makes you feel like they see you differently or think it would change who you are," he said. "For me, I just am who I am. Coming out hasn't changed me."

Joe's

[quote] Locke, who also identifies as queer, interjected, "I think coming out is stupid, that it's still something people should do."

He said he briefly came out of the closet at age 12 on Instagram before reconsidering. "I had just told my mother and I was on top of the world," he recounted. "I quickly realized I was ready to tell my mom, but not ready to tell the world. So I quickly deleted it and said they hacked my Instagram. I went back into the closet for three years. I went back to tell all my friends and they were like, 'Yeah, you told us two years ago.'"

And now that he's come out and plays a gay character in "Heartstopper"? Locke looked down and touched his rings.

"Twelve-year-old me would be so proud, and terrified," he commented. He paused to let tears well up in his eyes. "I'm getting emotional," he whispered. Connor watched him. The room was silent. "I've never thought about it in that way," Locke continued, "which is weird because I've thought about the program a lot." After a few seconds, he said quietly, "It's great." He sketched a small smile.

Just fucking teared up in the office reading that. It’s criminal that we didn’t get a video of this.

R410 Starting to believe he can actually sing

I don't understand this change, guess we'll see. Billy is a Scarlet Witch fanboy with mommy issues. Wanda fans are gonna be salty and probably start a fresh new attack on Joe

R412 Having an instagram at 12 and coming out at 12 is wild. Genz kids are insane. I'm 9 years older than him and I can't process coming out that young.

[quote]However, there is still no sex even under the shirt: there is no second base in "Heartstopper."

This part made me laugh. You can sense the disappointment.

If anyone cares, twink Charlie has been back in LA for a couple days. So assuming Bash stopped bothering him.

Joe crying about it is extremely sweet and sad. I’m really glad to get his take on this. I’m sure coming out and “going back in” was not fun in the slightest. Also, he was (technically) closeted when he had his summer fling while watching CMBYN

R418 how do you know?

R418 Genuinely don't understand what Bash is doing (in life) right now.

R412 embarrassingly teared up. He is so lovely.

R420 He updated his IG stories from a party in LA last night

Interesting (and very Gen Z) that they both identify as queer.

Wait. Kit is identifying as Queer now? Or did I kiss something.

R425 I think it's mistranslation. They both said they were queer but also bi and gay so.

R425 I think they both identify to the umbrella term queer and also individually to bi and gay.

From the NYT piece:

[quote]He's okay with being called "queer," he says, explaining that "it's more liberating in a way, it's less about labels." Locke, who also identifies as "queer"...

R394 The stiffness is less noticeable if you crop out their lower bodies. It's actually a really lovely shot of them.

Wasn't implying that they only identify as queer, it's just interesting to me that they both embrace that label given the never-ending debate in the community.

R429 Kit’s default position is draping himself over Joe.

R429 Joe never knows what to do with his hands in pics

They both look so hot in that picture! 🔥

[quote] "the hope is, without a doubt, that they would stay together," connor assures in a low voice, looking at locke as if for approval."i think so," locke replied, returning his gaze. [/quote]

Kinda made me laugh even if it's sweet since Kit is more gung ho about them staying together forever, even if doubt Joe meant it like that

R434 Joe got a a little taste of reality. Before he used to say they would stay together forever. I remember him commenting 'the start of forever' or something like that on Bash's IG post after he wrapped season 1.

R425 He did refer to himself as "a queer man" in The Guardian piece in addition to this interview, too.

R428 I guess he meant what he said last year about not liking labels.

I know we all clowned that one weirdo for the way she talked about Kit being a romantic, but I fully get the vibe that Kit'll be an enormous romantic cheeseball when he settles down.

R435 yeah was going to say, those questions probably hit different now.

I’m assuming these quotes are all translated by Spanish speakers? I can’t find the original English at all (or am I crazy)

There's no english version yet. Should be released tonight I'd guess.

R438 Yeah, they all look like translations. The DJL one is probably the closest I’ve seen in meaning for Joe’s coming out. I haven’t seen a decent translation of the Kit one yet, they all look run through Google Translate.

R437 I didn’t even think she was totally wrong, just a moron for saying her proof was romcoms and for insisting heartless Joe couldn’t handle Kits emotional needs

Am I paranoid or does his hair look shorter?

Late, but I love that the title of the NYTimes profile is “They Put the Heart in ‘Heartstopper.’”

R442 I hate him. No one thinks he could be moving there? Seems to really love the place.

R441 yeah, context was really key and the romantic heart thing was then hilarious. They also lashed out like crazy every time anyone mentioned it. Amazes me when people just can’t take the L on here. Amount of times I’ve been called out for sounding hyperbolic - almost always deserved

R442 his hair is pretty short right now. Self portrait party best indication

R444 He'll have to if he ends up doing a musical.

R442 it’s absolutely sweltering in NY right now. Could legit be humidity

He has such nice shoulders for how skinny he is

R444 It wonder where he would rank NY, because last year he was all about moving to London.

I think they probably both also said queer to refer to both of them since kit is bi and Joe is gay, being able to talk in the collective a bit more

Not going to lie, it absolutely has me in stitches that the day after JBC was a complete cunt about Joe he's in the New York Times with Kit, another cast member she's insanely resentful about. It's what she deserves.

Interview with Alice, Joe, Kit, Will, and Yaz. Some of the quotes we've heard before, others are new.

R452 I like how even with only a paragraph Yaz manHe’s to praise herself

R449 He seems to be having fun in Soho, but guess London no longer calls to him.

R451 I enjoy her pretending she likes Kit

R451 I have to laugh at JBC's confidence in Bash. He's been acting for 12+ years and he's never once been the lead in a project? Meanwhile Joe is not only the lead but he's the lead in one of Netflix's most successful show in the UK.

R455 and Co Lead in a 150+ million dollar Marvel production lol

R452 Alice’s response regarding the Ajayi/Farouk storyline is good, especially on the heels of the Variety review. I know she answered that before the review was published, but great timing.

I just auto followed of a bunch of verified accounts on Threads even though I have all auto follow functions turned off. I know we thought it was likely something like this that had happened to Joe but just confirming it has happened firsthand. Joe’s a good ex but probably not out there checking on Bash’s account

The person who thought that Joe was hung up on Bash and followed him on threads was funny though.

R459 The day after they were trying to commit Joe into a serious relationship with Lego, lmao.

Joe is really the fandom bicycle. And I'm the lone Tobie/Joe will fool around truther

R461 I don’t think that will ever happen. But if Joe had gotten together with Tobie instead of Bash while filming s1, they probably would have been very happy together. I really like Tobie. He’s funny and seems very fun to hang out with. Also, he don’t have a big ego.

R460 Enjoy while it last because I have a feeling season 2 will bring on more casual fans and this thread won't be so homogeneous.

R461 I think Kit's more likely to throw him a bone, honestly.

Olivia Colman talked about Heartstopper, the interview is in Spanish so rough translation

[quote]The response from the fans has been the best part. People of all ages have so graciously and respectfully have told me what it's meant to them. A man in his 40s quietly approached my husband and I when we went out for dinner. He was so gentle and sweet, and he was holding back tears. He said his coming out had been so traumatic because of his traditional family that simply didn't understand him. And watching Heartstopper had filled his heart with hope that fewer people will have to go through what he went through. And that he wished his family had been able to see Heartstopper all those years ago.

RE: Nick's storyline

[quote]His family dynamic is something that a lot of people will recognize. Not all of his family members understand him. An excellent starting point for a debate and, possibly, a cathartic moment to remember that he's not alone.

The second answer is a little weirdly worded even in the original Spanish, I think she's alluding to the dinner and the aftermath.

R462 I don't think they'd date. Just fuck around. Who among us has not sucked a dick while bored

I think Kit and Joe both treat Tobie like a brother, but YMMV on that.

R463 I’m a die hard Joe fan and I’d love a few more Kit guys on the thread (actual guys - don’t need more navel gazing about his coming out or how sensitive he is by middle aged frau). I even look forward to DLers who don’t post here coming to talk about the show (though I expect an increase in biphobia again tbh). I do not look forward to the purateens coming to talk about Kit’s smile

R468

its a good smile ngl, but the slutty waist, tits, and ass are so much better

R469 he’s about 10x bigger than my usual type but I think he’s hot as fuck. I’m in no way a real world shipper but Jesus he and Joe look amazing together. Sadly, arse chat has dropped off about both of them recently

R470 I thank Lucy for her service with Joe pics but she needs to start getting his ass in frame. Thanks!

I posted a gif where you could see some swinging in his red shorts that went unacknowledged, there's only so much I can do. I'll just bring this video back again.

I'll bring this one back, too.

R472 I was distracted by Joe’s legs in that gif, sorry mate. Will re-examine. That Pride gif is actually basically where Kit tipped over from - I’d like to see him fuck Joe, to, I’d like to fuck him. Those fucking hips

As someone on my phone, pls post the pics of joes ass from DC pride. I’d like to see both miracles of nature represented here. They’re both so fucking hot. It’s hilarious to hear dowdy Alice wax rhapsodic about how they didn’t cast unrealistically hot teens

Here's one

It’s pretty funny to me that photographers don’t seem to be able to get the best out of their chemistry. Even the MOTY shots were not as good as the bts video. All the DC pride photos are more engaging together than that NYT pic (which I think is sweet but a bit too juvenile or something)

Re-examined. Yeah, we all slept on this - nice dick. Kit obviously not strapped into whatever tucking underwear the HS costume department seem to be forcing he and Joe into most of the time

R478 the recent confirmation that he and Joe have nice dicks on top of all their other natural blessings is really proof god has his favourites

I was curious to see if for once joe would get any attention at all from the fandom for a genuinely really touching moment in the interview (him actually crying and the told for the first time coming out story). Amazingly, fake lesbian managed to ignore him altogether and just focus on Kit yet again.

Cannot wait for joe to have a new fanbase

R480 that account is such a fucking cunt. There is no way someone that horned up for Kit and that actively ignores Joe isn’t attracted to men. I was actually going to ask if there is a Kit equivalent to DJL? Like, just an update account that’s really on top of it (and doesn’t weirdly erase Joe). All of these fan accounts are so fucking tragic and frankly nerdy - it’s like the least popular kids all found each other and bonded over wanting to fuck someone (while desperately pretending not to).

R480 I don't know if it's just my timeline but fake lesbian is basically the exception, every Kit stan I follow was really emotional about Joe's coming out and it's been the thing that's been most retweeted on my timeline from the whole article apart from the picture of the two of them.

R481 I'm pretty sure no one else wants to start one because Kit Connor Info's basically cornered the market on Kit pages and it wouldn't be worth the effort at this point to start from zero.

R478 Oh wow how did we miss this?

R482 that’s good. It’s a really interesting (and not that uncommon really) story. Think more than a few here probably did the out, back in, out again journey but it’s not something people usually talk about. Not sure why - maybe it’s the expectation that once you’re out you should be automatically filled full of rainbow pride. 12 is early to expose that part of yourself publicly

R482 really? Maybe I’m a glutton for punishment but the few big ones I’ve looked at have maybe tweeted it with “aw :(“ and then gushed over kits part. Which is Classic but

R480 lets see what happens when the story is released in English. The Agatha sub will probably find it then.

R484 Imagine how I felt making and posting that gif and then getting no response. I started to believe that the haters were right and that this place is filled with fraus.

R478

oh ok not fair they have good dicks & ass too. When the s2 comes out we are going to have more Kit ass shots ( they grey joggers & the green dress pants) but i need more from Joe.

R482

maybe its just the people in follow but kinda have seen equal retweeting of both, the exception being the known kit/joe only stans

R483 fair. I use Instagram a lot more than Twitter and with some small exceptions (that don’t seem to really take off) the big Kit accounts there all seem really fond of Joe. Enthusiastically rather than just as a necessity.

R488 can’t apologise enough - really distracted by Joe’s long legs but it’s no excuse

Don’t worry r472 it was not completely unnoticed by my dick.

R489 there are absolutely some incredible ass shots of Kit in season 2. i took a few pics (and videos, actually) when I had the chance to watch it. If anyone is interested maybe I’ll post them when we’re closer to the release.

R491 that is delightful. I have to ask as a joe guy — any of joe? His black jean shorts looked tight. So I was optimistic.

Don’t think I’d seen the full version of this pic (hands at the bottom)

R491 Absolutely, definitely interested.

R493 I think that's AI fill.

R495 ah makes sense. I saw it posted by an update account on IG and didn’t question it

For the curious (no one) Bella Famsey was hanging out with Amybeth again today. Actually think they are maybe a thing

It’s going to be awkward when people on the street confuse them for mother and daughter.

R492 suspect we will have to wait until S3 where he becomes more confident about his body by staring at himself shirtless a lot (no one tell me this isn’t how it goes - I will not listen).

R491 I should have known that the Kit contingent could count on you. Happy for you all.

R498 going to be even more awkward when next year Bella is back to stanning joe after they realize that friend groups MO is “you’re an ex? You’re evil and we will be nasty and childish”

I did not realize Anne with an e was so popular. Over double joes followers is crazy.

R501

i mean the fans were obsessive about getting the show un cancelled but i didn't think it was that much

R502 yeah I knew it had an obsessive fanbase but she’s at 7.5 million and the male lead is at 3 million

R501 Kind of crazy, she has double the followers but her like average is way below Joe's (431,560 to Joe's 951,329).

Making a bash fan page in July 2023 is surely a sign of mental illness.

R505 Happy for all 26 of his fans.

R503 never watched and episode and not the target audience at all but you’d think teenage girls would be more inclined to want to follow someone attractive that they could aspire to rather than whatever is going on with her premature aging.

R504 the way he and Kit get engagement is pretty wild. Joe gets numbers that accounts of much more famous people with bigger followers get. Kit gets numbers that equal some of Tom Hollands lower end posts which is fucking wild as Tom has 66M followers

The fact that this is missing one each for Will, Yaz, and Kit just for this promo cycle — going to need Joe’s PR to get their fucking shit together. Absolutely batshit the lead has the least covers and features. And by a significant a,Lunt, literally everyone else in the main 6 has more.

R508 it’s not even like fans sleep on Joe that much. We’re just aware of more. That individual photo of Kit from the NYTimes article is basically no where, but the Kit Joe photo is everywhere (which, hey maybe they could consider including the individual shot they obviously took of him too when it goes up online…). Joe’s PR are fucking useless. That, came out at 12, story is the first new sound bite we have had from him in a year (apart from the privacy stuff). Seems like that came out of the discussion about Kit’s coming out rather than something that was set up for him. He should also know how to take a good photo on the red carpet by now. They basically do fuck all for him except are providing him with a date to events

R508 This really hammers in how exceptional Public Eye is. In Will's case, this isn't even including all of the Wasia Project press he's gotten recently, including a feature in Rolling Stone. The gulf is huge because Public Eye is super good and Prosper is super bad.

To make it worse, that New York Times feature was definitely the work of Netflix PR and not Prosper.

I genuinely cannot think of many people easier to pitch than joe. In two huge shows as the first steps in his career, openly gay and as we heard today an interesting and touching coming out story, very politically active (the whole “changed a law” thing) but with zero scandals, interesting life story, the “anti nepo baby”, and when he has a good photographer, extremely stunning on camera. And yet they’re fucking it up. There’s no reason he shouldn’t at least be getting features in big publications and covers of good smaller ones. Mental.

Thank god for the lighting change. He’s gorgeous.

R508 Not the point, but Rhea really got fucked with that styling. She’s easily the only one in that collage that doesn’t look good.

R514 sometimes gods justice prevails. She’s also the worst model of the 4. Vapid looking as hell, plus not a great actress or particularly gorgeous. Saved only by Patrick’s weird hard on for her.

R512 I hope that as part of the profession maturing he does over the next year he realises that you don’t owe loyalty to the people you pay, if they are bad at their jobs. kit moving changing stylist is a good example of moving to someone else because it serves your career better. I hope this is an eye opener for Joe

R515 the weirdest thing is he doesn’t seem to care about Rhea that much as person - it’s all about Imogen. Fucking odd

Honestly HS is too crowded with “iconic” characters (and those who think they are “iconic”). It’s a miracle that a gay character and actor gets any attention at all amongst all that. I pray Agatha is where it’ll blow up properly for Joe.

R518 Not really a miracle, there are only arguably 3 of them that anyone actually gives a shit about.

R513 I honestly hate the lighting this season. I hate that awful yellow filter. I'm glad they're going with the previous DOP for season 3.

R519 to be fair I get their point. Kit is the hot teen idol with the coming out story who girls lose their shit over, Yaz is beautiful and a black trans woman so she’ll get attention, Will is gorgeous and a musician and interesting, bash before now had that fake golden retriever enthusiasm, most fans think he’s straight or not gay, and he’s more appealing to the girls than joe. Joe is way more talented than the others (excepting Kit, who I think is great) and imo so charming and hot but then I’m a gay man.

R529 her lighting fucked joe hard in s1. It favored Kit like crazy. This season it’s a bit reversed. I don’t understand why they seem incapable of finding a happy medium. They’re gorgeous guys, they have both looked great in photos together, why can’t they make the lighting work for them both

R520 Kit and Joe both look like they’re dealing with kidney failure.

R522 I think it's because it was her first major job but she nailed the birthday scenes and the first kiss scene. R523 Exactly. They look sick.

R518 When you say 'blow up properly' what do you mean? Because Joe blew up. He went from 100K to 3M followers in weeks.

Overall I prefer S2 lighting because the zombie skintone in S1 was rather distracting sometimes.

Don't know if we knew this, but apparently Olivia is in more than half the season this time around. Because of this, I decided to look up the requirements for the Guest category at the CAF Emmys (suspecting that the increased screentime would mean that she'd be bumped up to Supporting) and it turns out they're eliminating the Guest category altogether anyway and all of those performers submit as Supporting now. It's over for Will and Yaz.

And the article. No solo pictures of either of them.

R528 holy fuck

As our conversation ended, I asked both men where they’d like their characters to be in 20 years.

“The hope would certainly be that they’re still together,” Connor said softly, looking at Locke as if to get approval.

“I think they would be,” Locke replied, glancing back.

“They’re meant for each other,” Connor said.

“They’d have some children, a family,” Locke said.

“Happy would be nice,” Connor said.

“Yeah,” Locke said, again with that grin. “Just happy.”

But if they were antsy about it, it didn’t show in their relaxed rapport and modest demeanors. Connor, who grew up in Croydon in South London, comes across as grounded and affable, and he speaks with considered thoughtfulness, like he actually took notes during media training.

Locke has Charlie’s gentle deportment but with the soft edge of a cool-kid wise guy. As our conversation turned to their own education, Connor mentioned that he “wasn’t one of those people who thrived at school,” and sheepishly said he got a B in drama. When he finished, Locke leaned over, cracked himself up and said into my recorder: “You don’t need school, kids. He got a B in drama.”

Locke said a sharp tongue is one way he protected himself while growing up on the Isle of Man. “People knew not to give me [expletive],” he said.

R532 this was somewhat lost in translation. Joe just as optimistic about them as Kit. In the translation it sounded like Joe was more cynical.

It’s a fucking great article

R534 Joe's part was actually shortened and mostly removed entirely in the Spanish version for some reason. The other part I pasted is also new from the NYT site.

R528 That looks like Joe and Kit are happily engaged.

R532 This answer is very sweet. Almost melted my frozen slab of a heart.

R535 ah, okay. I didn’t read any of the full translated versions, just the excerpts here. Thanks for that.

It’s really great. I love that Joe being a cute brat and Kit being modest and chill is what they’re actually like.

They added what Joe said, but took out the dramatic fanfic writing at the end where the article ends with them gazing into each other's eyes.

This part was completely omitted

[quote] But if they were antsy about it, it didn’t show in their relaxed rapport and modest demeanors. Connor, who grew up in Croydon in South London, comes across as grounded and affable, and he speaks with considered thoughtfulness, like he actually took notes during media training. Locke has Charlie’s gentle deportment but with the soft edge of a cool-kid wise guy. As our conversation turned to their own education, Connor mentioned that he “wasn’t one of those people who thrived at school,” and sheepishly said he got a B in drama. When he finished, Locke leaned over, cracked himself up and said into my recorder: “You don’t need school, kids. He got a B in drama.” Locke said a sharp tongue is one way he protected himself while growing up on the Isle of Man. “People knew not to give me [expletive],” he said.

R538 I think the “again with that grin” is a great replacement.

R512 Joe doesn’t fit the coverboy/feature mold unfortunately. That’s just how shoebox is and it sucks .This thread thinks he’s a heartthrob and has a fascinating story, but not sure that’s how he’s seen by the industry. Maybe he will gain that kind of recognition when S2 comes out or with new work.

R539 yeah, very balanced article between them - in fact Joe spoke more than usual. Spanish version clearly trying to lean more Kit. Really impressed with this journo tbh

R532 R533 I’ll give the article a hit anyway, but thanks for pasting the new parts here.

R541 heartthrob isn’t how I would describe Joe at all and YMMV but I don’t think any of the other guys on here who want to fuck him would describe him that way either. Hot twink would be the most accurate

Yeah, the guy didn't milk Kit's coming out for the whole article either. Great writing. Also enjoy the confirmation that Joe is cool.

@erikpiepenburg on twitter if the fans in the building want to thank him. Still early so he hasn't rewteeted it yet.

481 [quote] fucking tragic and frankly nerdy - it’s like the least popular kids all found each other and bonded over wanting to fuck someone

Joe still looking for someone to make him brunch. That an an oat flat white might get you in the door.

We need the career sleuths to start finding what projects they are obviously going to be in. I think Kit's mentioned it too many times for it to not be a reality. No idea about musicals on Broadway, can't figure out if that's a goal for him or something he thinks will happen soon. Given his career, he'd probably got straight to Broadway

Some people need to admit they do ship Joe and Kit. It’s harmless as long as they aren’t being weird towards them. Some of the things being said about the new pics is clearly them pussyfooting around it!

R548 Do you mean on Twitter? I love that shit, paste some of the comments over here if you can.

R545 Seems like the writer is gay. Judging by the way he chose to end the article I also hope he’s clairvoyant.

That article mentions Nick and Charlie sharing a bed in Paris, Thats a change. I thought Tao would for sure still block it lol.

I will kinda miss the cute hand hold across the beds.

R551 I recall they shared a bed in Paris on the last night only like in the comic.

I'm assuming it's still hand holding across a bed, guess we'll see. As horned up as Nick and Charlie are gonna look sharing a bed is not realistic.

R552 Oh yeah they do on the last night of the trip. Charlie straddles Nick and they make out a while and say they don't want to have sex yet and then got sleep. Amazing.

This is the main comment I was talking about with people on Twitter. Kit as looking at Joe with lots of fondness, you can say that. “Can’t stop bffism” alright then…

The not ready for sex conversation needs to be realistic in the sense that they are giving off “yeah I’m horny and you're hot as fuck and I love you but I’m not there yet” rather than just giggly uwu we’re so shy

Some get it though lol

R557 Those comments are always more about Kit is so hot I can't believe Joe didn't fuck him yet, but very rarely the other way around since they all want to fuck Kit

I don’t blame Kit for looking at Joe like that, he’s adorable and I think he does have at least a little crush

R541 I actually disagree on the feature bit at least and to an extent the covers. I’m not saying he’s the traditional heartthrob at all, sadly I agree. But (and I know he’s a much bigger name) look at people like Timothee Chalamet or before him even Ben Whishaw. The sort of frail artsy dark haired wistful thing IS a thing for publications, especially with an interesting hook or story. Which joe has

im surprised Netflix doesnt do the classic studio thing and make it seem like they are dating, the attention that would get would be astronomical.

R558 well yeah, they’re all women. I think if being a Joe fan has taught me anything it’s that the parameters around what women think is attractive in men are pretty deeply ingrained, with some exceptions. Timmy being the main one. Total twink but with extreme het energy (always seems like a bit of a dick tbh)

I know they didn’t have their solo shots in the article but hopefully they post joes too as an outtake.

Don’t think I’ll be getting over this picture anytime soon.

R564 it’s a great shot generally but god. Joes eyes are crazy

I want to make a snarky comment about how that’s not the only kissing they’ll be doing

R566 god this fandom. No wonder Alice thinks they’re all invested in an ace storyline. The hilarity of them saying softly and sweetly as Charlie slams nick against a door in that very gif..l

R562 I am surprised the fake lesbians don’t like Joe more. My queer female friends like women and men who look like women. Not that Joe looks like a woman at all but he does have a femininity to him being the perfect twink that he is.

R566 Well that person also tweeted this obvious shipper comment for those who enjoy it

[quote] nick and charlie would find each other in any universe and were made to change the world together, forever… just like kit and joe

R568 They are fake lesbians because they want to fuck Kit. Thread fav one deleted to tweet about Kit coming out, but didn't post about Joe's. Not saying they are all like this, but not sure why there are several big Kit stans who just want to make sure Joe gets zero attention. The Kit update account is like that too. It's weird as fuck since Kit is a lot more popular than Joe sadly. He doesn't need the shadiness.

Alice apparently really liked the NYT interview, she didn't have the patience to wait for official posts and reposted fan posts (including one from DJL on Twitter).

R571 Her and Patrick finding every little bit of cast promotion they can repost is funny since I'm pretty sure they'd ignore half of it before.

R572 absent the strike Patrick would’ve originally posted only the Yaz and rhea cosmo covers and reluctantly the NYT thing as he wouldn’t be able to figure out how to subtly crop joe. But for sure re this being their only promo. Him not giving a fuck about joe and ignoring his magazine to repost it a month later due to the strike was funny

The in sync squeeze is really well done

Olivia looks great but they did Will dirty with this pic

The casuals chiming in.

R576 it was absolutely hilarious after DC pride. Literally every casual not only thought they would be cute but sincerely believed they were actually together. Still thinking about that guy showing bash the photos on the street

Dead at the last of the joebash shippers giving up

As if Alice gives a fuck. Mental these kids think she’s a good person

R577 Felt bad for him at the time, but now..... No wonder he fell off the rails.

R578 Times are changing, even the JoeBash admin got rid of her Bash pfp

R580 her cc is still however the most melodramatic thing you’ve ever read. Linking here if anyone wants a good laugh

R581 The whole thing where they know Bash looks like dead eyed dirty shithead and is acting like an ass but won't admit because he's just shitty is at least funny. They just think Joe broke his heart so he had to start looking ugly and acting like bitch.

R576 I assume, once this much hyped 10 minute opening sequence is revealed, it’s going to be absolutely full on for the two of them. Shipping from all directions

Think the ten minutes is overblown in that it's cute dating, but probably not insanely hot. The straddling and hickey scene on the other hand...

R564 The way Kit looks at Joe is insane. His face carries so much emotions.

10 minutes of kissing is going to give the fancam editors more content to work with than any other series lol.

I really hope the hickey scene is insanely hot. Don’t think anything will top it in season 3 judging by how the comic is looking.

Searching Kit and Joe on Twitter:

[quote]Is it weird that I low-level want Kit and Joe to end up together, like romantically?

[quote]Why does Kit always looks like he is in love with Joe. Explain pls.

And a lot of tweets commenting about how Kit looks at Joe in general.

R582 they also say fully unironically that Kit is clearly closer to bash. They’re in a fantasy world.

R585 not to sound like a cheesy twitter teen but the way they stare at each other and interact is the kind of chemistry casting directors would pay for.

R590 It's genuinely fucking rare that two actors click in that way at all, let alone when it's the first time each of them are playing love interests, let alone at their age, let alone when it's the first time one of them is acting professionally.

R551 you’ll get your scene, no worries

R554 straddling included

R556 no conversation quite to that extent but given the source material it’s handled well enough

Also I hate to start venturing into blurring the Kit/Nick lines, but upon rewatching some of my recordings there is one scene between Nick and Tao that I do wonder if was added after Kits coming out. It seems very intentional and something about Kits acting/reacting feels a little more raw.

Since the thread is ending, I'll bring up random shit but I know MCU Wanda stans would be completely feral about the leak that said Billy doesn't care about Wanda, the murderous psychopath, and start hating on Joe again. You can't really have her be his fav Avengers in the current MCU timeline.

R592 This might just be me, but it's always jarring when I remember that Kit came out in the middle of a work week while shooting the second season.

R593 They're so fucking weird.

R594 mot saying these are on the same level at all, the coming out was way bigger and worse, but for me seeing that TikTok of joe furiously texting and looking really upset on set the day before he got “cancelled” for liking those tweets defending bash around Halloween really made it hit for me that these kids were dealing with all this shit WHILE actively working a project where they had to be “on” and have their game faces together. shitty in the sense of pressure but also in the sense that it’s even more infuriating Alice and Patrick did nothing to help any of them.

R593 they act like joe wrote the damn script. Also their go to insult for joe being ugly is so lazy.

R592 I’m sorry I probably missed this as I’ve been skimming the threads but I saw you said joe and bash had a scene together? How was he respective acting in it? I thought joes “weakest” scene last season (still relatively good) was with bash, but that the parking lot scene was great, so curious if that’s changed. And if bash performed well or stayed sort of middling

R596

[quote] There was a comment about Ben just being there to make things for Nick more difficult, it is not. Ben’s purpose is for Charlie, leading up to the moment where confronts him and stands up for himself (And slightly Imogen but who cares about that) Joe is incredible in this scene (with Kit in the background, and mostly out of focus might I add) and Bash proves he can’t act.

sad!

R597 much obliged. Tragic for bash.

Pretty sure Yaz is technically strike breaking? Is this promo? Getting her to ignore HS probably wasn’t hard but getting her not to post everything about herself as her PR seems like an endeavour.

I’ll make the next thread, give me 5. No one else comment so we have a space to drop the link.

Here we go