Sit-down all-purpose chain restaurants are dying out. Vote for your favorite, and I'll consider saving the winner
Best chain restaurant
by Anonymous | reply 140 | July 27, 2023 2:11 PM |
Ruth Chris’s
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 25, 2023 1:27 AM |
Mine would probably be something Mexican. I hated Cheesecake Factory. I got into it with our waitress over the correct pronunciation of bruschetta. Olive Garden was awful--probably doesn't feature bruschetta. And our Red Lobster waitress spent the entire meal getting broken up with by her boyfriend (cellphones were brand new).
I haven't been to any of the others. I probably won't go to any of the others. I have lots of options for real Italian, Mexican, and Thai food, my favorites for eating out.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 25, 2023 1:36 AM |
I've never been to any of those places.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 25, 2023 1:38 AM |
[quote] I've never been to any of those places.
Lies.
[quote] I haven't been to any of the others.
More lies.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 25, 2023 1:46 AM |
In the past 25 years I have been to Outback Steakhouse two or three times and Chilis about the same.
Of the two, I have no preference but I suppose I'll take Chilis. I think I had a half-decent burger there.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 25, 2023 1:48 AM |
Out of the your choices, I went with TCF. It's a nice middle class experience, plus you get to take home home half your huge entrée for a second dinner later.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 25, 2023 1:50 AM |
Devon
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 25, 2023 1:54 AM |
R6, spell out your words please, this is not Elmo's Twatter, this is the Datalounge.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 25, 2023 1:57 AM |
R2 You corrected your server’s pronunciation? Honestly, what kind of gaping asshole does that?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 25, 2023 2:20 AM |
And in a Cheesecake Factory on top of that R10.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 25, 2023 2:24 AM |
And carrying a grudge against the waiter about it years later on top of that!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 25, 2023 2:27 AM |
My partner, Mr. Camp & Kitsch, would want to go to Chili's because he thought the menu was a perfect expression of late-century consumerism as a contributor to the decline of the concept of social maturity. Booze + Kiddy-Level Fare and Style = Men With Caps On + Bar Whores
He'd order an onion blossom with both of us knowing he'd be sick the next morning, marveling at the oil dripping onto the waxy blotter under it with each forkful. (We did not touch it with our fingers.) He'd order a burger so he could once again point out how the preforming created an impermeable puck with a rubbery spring to it. No iced tea without passion fruit juice concentrate and no breaded mushrooms without a napalm-like squirt as you bit into it.
I ordered a steak once.
No.
Complete
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 25, 2023 2:29 AM |
I fucked a busboy in the men's room at a TGI Friday's a couple times.
Different busboys.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 25, 2023 2:33 AM |
From your list, probably the Oliver Garden, but it's been at least 20 years for me, so I'm not sure. I was taken to Red Lobster about five years ago and was surprised it was actually decent. The cheese biscuits and cole slaw were quite good.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 25, 2023 2:33 AM |
No, fuckstick at r10. She corrected mine.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 25, 2023 2:34 AM |
Carrabba’s!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 25, 2023 2:34 AM |
They're all cheap tho. Trump would totally fit in.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 25, 2023 2:36 AM |
[quote] (cellphones were brand new).
How long ago must that be? 30 years? Geez.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 25, 2023 2:37 AM |
None of the above. Boże!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 25, 2023 2:38 AM |
The cheesecake factory is actually good for what it is. And Outback is decent because how hard is it to fuck up steaks? The rest are garbage. I would rather eat McDonald's.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 25, 2023 2:40 AM |
R1, Ruth’s Chris’ was acquired by Darden, the same company that owns Oliver Garden and other chains. It’s probably just a matter of time before they run it into the ground.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 25, 2023 2:56 AM |
Cheesecake Factory feels like it doesn't belong, with its weird binder of a menu that doesn't follow one particular cuisine. I wind up there most often when visiting relatives who, bless their hearts, think it's fine dining.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 25, 2023 3:12 AM |
Why not take them to an actual fine dining restaurant and show them what it really is, R23?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 25, 2023 3:14 AM |
Un choix épouvantable de soi-disant restaurants.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 25, 2023 3:23 AM |
[quote]Why not take them to an actual fine dining restaurant and show them what it really is, [R23]?
I'm not R23, but I think you have to meet people where they are. If they think Cheesecake Factory is fine dining, then let them have that.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 25, 2023 3:32 AM |
[quote]And in a Cheesecake Factory on top of that [R10].
He probably speaks French to the counterman at Schrafft's. Imagine anybody speaking French to a counterman ... at Schrafft's?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 25, 2023 3:35 AM |
I'm not saying take that away from them, R26, I'm saying there are other restaurants that could easily be added.
Do you never encourage or introduce your friends and family to anything new? I find that very odd but whatever.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 25, 2023 3:36 AM |
For bruschetta, I say broosketta. How are people saying it? I have a friend who says brooshetta. I don't correct her, she's always mispronouncing words.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 25, 2023 3:54 AM |
When I was younger I would wonder why these big chains didn't have restaurants inside the city? I'm in Chicago. And as I get older it's because it's all reheated food. Ultra processed foods. In Chicago, you could just go to any Mexican restaurant and get rice, beans, fresh salsa, a protein choice and tortillas for 9 bucks.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 25, 2023 4:08 AM |
I don't like any of these restaurants, but if I had to choose, then Cheesecake Factory. I usually have a cheese omelet & potatoes and a dulce de leche cheesecake slice.
TGIF had good potato skins. Hard Rock Cafe, when it first came out, had a small but good menu.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 25, 2023 6:39 AM |
Oh no R22! It’s bad enough that they got rid of the creamed spinach au gratin about six years ago and then the escargot, the crabtini and a decent bread basket during the pandemic. With Darden in charge their collapse will be complete. They’ll probably start microwaving the steaks in margarine as a cost saving measure.
Is Morton’s safe at least? (The steaks aren’t as good, but many of the sides are better so a close second in my book.)
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 25, 2023 11:39 AM |
Yeah Hard Rock Café. And I enjoy and recommend Horn & Hardart, Ho Jo's, Friendly's and Wetson's. I don't get out as much as I used to, though.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 25, 2023 11:59 AM |
[quote] I'm not saying take that away from them, [R26], I'm saying there are other restaurants that could easily be added.
WRONG.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 25, 2023 12:04 PM |
R27, for the win of a true DLer and an Eldergay. God I love that movie! And the Upson's! Muriel Puce indeed...
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 25, 2023 12:09 PM |
Texas Roadhouse
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 25, 2023 12:11 PM |
Mother and I enjoy Charleston Garden at B Altman and The Dorotheum at the Metropolitan.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 25, 2023 12:22 PM |
I'm not knocking them, but they're all basically the same. As a picky eater, I welcome the familiarity and knowledge that whichever one I go to I will find something I'll eat.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 25, 2023 12:39 PM |
Mine would be Red Robin (their burgers are good). From the list, Outback.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 25, 2023 12:43 PM |
First Watch
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 25, 2023 12:46 PM |
I was corrected by a San Francisco waiter when I used the Sicilian pronunciation of "salsiccia."
I told him real people didn't speak Duolingo and to fetch my sausage.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 25, 2023 12:55 PM |
Denny's
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 25, 2023 12:58 PM |
[quote]I was corrected by a San Francisco waiter when I used the Sicilian pronunciation of "salsiccia."
"Zahl-zeech?"
by Anonymous | reply 43 | July 25, 2023 1:00 PM |
Nordstrom’s “Bazille” chain never disappoints, I’ve been to many different cities and it’s remarkably consistent, not especially any more expensive than the list, and the last waiter that waited on us had a fabulous cake of an ass to admire while shuffling our food to the table.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 25, 2023 1:47 PM |
I’m with r44. Nordstrom’s cafe has very good food. The serving sizes are also more reasonable than some of the other restaurants listed.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 25, 2023 2:10 PM |
If I was out to dinner with someone who corrected a waiter's pronunciation, that would be the last time we dined together. That is just beyond rude.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 25, 2023 2:35 PM |
R46 Again, moron, she corrected my pronunciation. I simply maintained my (correct) pronunciation. The waitress was at fault, not I.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | July 25, 2023 2:40 PM |
I wasn't talking about you R47. You didn't do anything wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 25, 2023 3:22 PM |
If I had to choose, it would be Chili's. They have a great burger and their Presidente Margarita served in those plastic, blue shakers are delicious.
I never go to my Outback (within walking distance of my house) because the fuckers don't open until 4 PM! I like Olive Garden but the only thing I like there is the salad. Their other food isn't that great; at least at the ones near me.
Applebee's used to have a WW-inspired menu with a delicious etoufee dish. To me at least, it's not that special.
Living in NJ, I prefer an authentic Greek diner to most chain restaurants. The one near me uses real lamb in their gyros and souvlakis and makes fresh tzatziki sauce. That, and an ice cold beer, is the perfect Saturday lunch.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 25, 2023 3:41 PM |
If I lived near Cosmo, I would probably end up eating too much deli. Mmmm...sloppy Joes. Not that that's "chain," but as with the good Greek diners, Jewish deli is among the best eats in NJ.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 25, 2023 3:45 PM |
I'd pick Pappadeaux's. Love their etoufee and seafood fondue.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | July 25, 2023 3:46 PM |
[quote]Applebee's used to have a WW-inspired menu with a delicious etoufee dish.
WW? World War? World Wide? White Water? Walla Walla? Willy Wonka? Wonder Woman?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 25, 2023 3:47 PM |
Although I am a Houstonian and agree with you, Pappas is too Houston-centric for my poll.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 25, 2023 3:56 PM |
I live in the greater Bay Area in a particularly foodie area that attracts chefs, small farmers, and tourists. Creative cuisine and competition among extraordinary chefs make chain restaurants unnecessary. Not that we don't have them, but why go to one when you can get fresh, original cuisine at reasonable prices? If you know where to look there is no need to spend a fortune.
If I had to choose, though, it would be Chili's or Cheesecake Factory.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | July 25, 2023 4:07 PM |
Sad that people consider these places restaurants and have to dine in them.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | July 25, 2023 4:07 PM |
I voted for Cheesecake Factory, but I haven't been to any of these since the early aughts, which the last two I went to was a Ruth's Chris and an Olive Garden. Chain restaurants are sad.
At most of them the food is shipped in, pre-prepared in bags, CF included. Not sure what Ruth's Chris is doing now. Are they doing their hot plates gimmick still?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | July 25, 2023 4:08 PM |
How come California Pizza Kitchen isn't on the list? I love that place.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 25, 2023 4:13 PM |
Olive Garden. Only ever ordered the salad and breadsticks on the rare occasions I ate there.
Chilis-okay for margaritas and their chili is surprisingly good and I say this as a Texan serious about his chili. They need cornbread to go with it though.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | July 25, 2023 4:21 PM |
[quote]How come California Pizza Kitchen isn't on the list?
I thought they had closed down. Now I see they're just in the LA area. There was one in DC some years back. It had white tiled walls and a yellow neon tube going around the circumference of the room. It was reminiscent of being in a men's room.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | July 25, 2023 4:22 PM |
R56 yes, still cooked in butter at a super high temperature on the plate. And the wait staff still spend a long time warning about those plates.
We go for my wife’s birthday and our anniversary because it is her favorite and they do a lovely job of preparing the table for special occasions. They have a good wine list, a reasonable uncorking fee and a variety of good scotch. I am so annoyed about Darden buying them.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | July 25, 2023 4:23 PM |
I honestly don't know if I've ever been to a Ruby Tuesdays. I've seen them around so I'm familiar with the name, but nothing comes up when I try to picture having been there.
Chili's, Applebees and Fridays are interchangeable in my mind. I imagine RT is the same bland, common fare, everything with fries or a salad, 5-10 different gimmicky burgers, chicken fingers/chicken wings, etc. Baby tastes menus for baby tastes eaters.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 25, 2023 4:37 PM |
Cheesecake Factory has great desserts, of course, but everything else on the menu is terrible and fattening. I've eaten there many times, but I still don't know what the theme of the restaurant is besides the desserts.
Olive Garden has the best overall consistency between appetizers, entrees and desserts.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | July 25, 2023 4:48 PM |
R52, WW is the rebranded name of Weight Watchers.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 25, 2023 4:56 PM |
A bit off topic but I suspect that a lot of restaurants are using cheap ass, flavorless tilapia and calling it another fish.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 25, 2023 5:23 PM |
[quote]the last waiter that waited on us had a fabulous cake of an ass to admire while shuffling our food to the table.
Was he on the menu?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | July 25, 2023 5:28 PM |
[quote] I live in the greater Bay Area
I Googled this and got China. What is considered the greater Bay Area in norther California?
by Anonymous | reply 66 | July 25, 2023 5:47 PM |
You can knock the Cheesecake Factory all you want but they have everything. You can order breakfast for dinner even!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 25, 2023 5:59 PM |
Wow - fantastic. I never in all my life. Breakfast for dinner!
by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 25, 2023 6:03 PM |
FYI, the California Pizza Kitchen has more than 40 locations in ...California, they are all over the United states, five here in Atlanta Metro area, and Arlington, Fairfax, and Maclean, Virginia as well as a couple more in VA. And they do not look anything like a being in a mens' room. I always found them well lighted, welcoming and I loved their pizzas and their entree-salads.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 25, 2023 6:05 PM |
r66 The nine Bay Area counties: San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Sonoma, Napa, and Solano.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | July 25, 2023 6:06 PM |
[quote]WW is the rebranded name of Weight Watchers.
Do you work for them? Nobody calls it that.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 25, 2023 6:18 PM |
Yeah, it’s 2023. It’s called eat real food and exercise.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 25, 2023 6:22 PM |
[quote]And Outback is decent because how hard is it to fuck up steaks?
Ask the chefs throwing hissyfits over customers "ruining" steaks by ordering them fully cooked in white tablecloth restaurants. You'd think if a college kid in the Outback kitchen can reliably turn out a well-done steak that's not tough or chewy, someone who went to culinary school could manage it, but apparently not.
Longhorn Steakhouse or Bahama Breeze are probably my picks for best chains overall, though I'll take an Outback steak over any of the other chain options.
How did Applebee's make the poll?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 25, 2023 6:25 PM |
Texas Roadhouse is the best for a steak chain.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 25, 2023 6:28 PM |
[quote] [R66] The nine Bay Area counties: San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Sonoma, Napa, and Solano.
Thanks, but I was assuming that the "greater" Bay Area would consist of a subset of those counties.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | July 25, 2023 6:40 PM |
All those places are vile, OP.
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by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 25, 2023 6:42 PM |
Long gone is Steak and Ale. Much mocked but I always had a decent meal along with a few glasses of red wine in those days plus it was usually a quiet place.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | July 25, 2023 7:00 PM |
I included chain restaurants that you see in both the Tri state area and suburban Texas. I did not include any of the delicious Texas-centric chains. For some reason the Pa-New York-New Jersey suburbs have the shittiest selection of restaurants I've ever seen anywhere. I think of California Pizza Kitchen as something you see in Atlanta. I don't see it in that many other places.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 25, 2023 7:16 PM |
"For some reason the Pa-New York-New Jersey suburbs have the shittiest selection of shitty disgusting family chain restaurants I've ever seen anywhere. "
Fixed it. Because we have real restaurants and residents have the good taste to choose them.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | July 25, 2023 7:24 PM |
True, r81. I didn't eat at a chain restaurant until I went away to college.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 25, 2023 7:25 PM |
Only the Poors eat at mall chain restaurants
by Anonymous | reply 83 | July 25, 2023 7:28 PM |
But McDonald's is my (whine, whine) weekly treat!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | July 25, 2023 7:30 PM |
Sizzlers, specifically the salad bar, was probably my favorite chain restaurant.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | July 25, 2023 7:30 PM |
[quote] Only the Poors eat at mall chain restaurants
Anyone who's ever held down a white collar job has had occasion to eat at a shitty chain restaurant as part of a team outing, interview, or meeting. Anyone who denies that they have eaten at a shitty chain restaurant is a fedora-loving LIAR.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | July 25, 2023 7:33 PM |
How the fuck isn’t Texas Toadhouse on here?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 25, 2023 7:33 PM |
Maggiones is the best chain Italian restaurant.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | July 25, 2023 7:39 PM |
R51 I miss that from Texas. Pretty much the only thing I miss from texas was that chain, every one was good. Nothing like that on the east coast.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | July 25, 2023 7:40 PM |
My family wasn't pretentious and we were middle middle class and we did not go to chain restaurants except Friendly's and Fast Food. For example when Red Lobster opened we never went. We never went to Pizza Hut because there are 4 pizzerias, 2 with small restaurants, that we went to, out of dozens in the county. There were local steak houses, Chinese, soul food, a German restaurant, a couple French restaurants, there were old inns that had been restaurants for decades or even centuries. There were hippy restaurants and some fancy Italian restaurants. There was an expensive Japanese restaurant - we kids never went there. There were the chain restaurants of the 60s and 70s and early 80s but they were frequented by families like ours. It wasn't about being snobby. It might have been about quality of food and perceived value.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | July 25, 2023 7:40 PM |
they were NOT frequented by families like ours.
The only time I went to Denny's was with school friends. Pizza Hut with a sports team but it was considered lame because we all preferred the local Italian family style restaurant with that big simple room and good food.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | July 25, 2023 7:42 PM |
I worked at Applebees (probably 20 years ago). Everything was precooked in bags and then microwaved. To make fajitas they would put the skillet in the oven, pretty much the only use of the oven, microwave the fajita stuff, open the bag put it on the hot skillet and squeeze a lemon to make it sizzle- and then we would warn you about the hot plate.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | July 25, 2023 7:43 PM |
I eat at chains when I travel for work. Since my in-laws died it is pretty much the only time I eat at one. They're quick, usually consistent, always in line with expense reports, usually have decent salads for relatively healthy travel eating, and you know what you're getting. I'm not experimenting or trying the "local fare" when I'm working. I'm adventurous on vacation. For work trips it's a utilitarian choice that's always nearby. No muss no fuss.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | July 25, 2023 7:43 PM |
Thanks R90 for your post.
Sadly so much of that has disappeared within the last decades. Now every town has a Target, a Subway, a Walmart and some array of corporate swill houses. Few places have an actual local restaurant. The few that do are the kind of places where dumb fraus complain that they could make the same thing at home much cheaper.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | July 25, 2023 7:52 PM |
R94 There are plenty of local restaurants in big cities.
Unfiltered capitalism tried that shit in a small town. Capitalism won.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 25, 2023 7:58 PM |
How are big cities able to do it but small towns can't? Different type of populations?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | July 25, 2023 8:00 PM |
When you try shit in a small town the small town sometimes loses.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | July 25, 2023 8:02 PM |
[quote] How are big cities able to do it
do what?
by Anonymous | reply 98 | July 25, 2023 8:05 PM |
R98 Try to follow the conversation, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | July 25, 2023 8:07 PM |
I did, R99, but I must have someone blocked. I'm assuming R96 means - how do larger cities sustain a healthy scene of local restaurants but smaller suburban and small town areas cannot?
by Anonymous | reply 100 | July 25, 2023 8:09 PM |
Have local commerce including restaurants.
Well it's simply the trend in late capitalism. When I moved to Geneva Switzerland in the 90s, the city was like American cities and towns of the 60s and 70s - in that all the local commerce was intact. All the local tradesman. All the local boutiques of every variety. All the cafes, at every price point. All the department stores and yada yada yada. That all started disappearing at the end of the 90s and I would say 75% of it is is gone now. Try to find an old fashioned blanchisserie or very local traiteur on your street - where you could pick up meats preprepared for madame to ease her dinner preparation. A blanchisserie would know how to wash and press every kind of household linen, of which where were dozens of varieties. Perfectly. blah blah blah . Bread from one shop. Pastries from another. The chemists maybe had a perfume counter. There would be pharmacist and general saleslady, and maybe a helper. Ask the saleslady a question about French perfumery, at the little chemist on your street, she'd know the answer. She had been trained. It was a professional job someone did for decades.. It's just the way it goes. Hundreds of tiny restaurants that served just lunch. A proper lunch. It's almost all gone.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | July 25, 2023 8:17 PM |
Oh well if you have people blocked. If you are that fuckin sensitive that you have to block anonymous posters then you have bigger issues then trying to comprehend this thread. In fact do not even try. There is no hope for you.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | July 25, 2023 8:19 PM |
I have an apartment in Zamalek in Cairo - that's an old neighborhood on an island in the Nile. Cairo still has plenty of local commerce. What's happening in post-industrial rich cities and countries is a mixed bag. Yeah giant supermarkets filled with all that amazing variety of food at affordable prices considering the western salary, is kind of a wonder. But it's very very industrial and not human scaled.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | July 25, 2023 8:22 PM |
The system is now set up to reward only investors with deep pockets.
I had a friend that opened a bakery in a very bustling area of Chicago about a decade ago. The insanity of the permitting process and inspections almost made her quit before she'd begun. One inspector would tell her to do X, the next Y. She finally opened and was able to stay open for a few years, but eventually closed, in part because a large chain wanted her storefront, bribed the alderman, and voila, her rent and various fees were suddenly raised, in some cases tripled.
I used to live near the West Loop in Chicago, known not so long ago as "Restaurant Row." So many great places opened there because the spaces were large and the rents affordable enough to justify an investment of money and sweat to open a place. Now real estate prices have in some cases quadrupled or more, and so many great places have closed. National and/or local chains are the only ones that can afford it now. There's a ubiquitous local chain of restaurants run under the name Lettuce Entertain You, and they're infesting the area with lots of High Concept place, where any number of comfort food items or traditional cuisines are "reinterpreted" for 50-60 a plate. They have the money and deep pockets to invest.
I now live in California, where a woman just opened a cat cafe. Again, what was anticipated to be maybe a 100K investment to open turned into 250K, in part because the city required her to install an expensive grease trap - one that usually only a full service restaurant and/or fast food place would need.
The local places in my little rust belt town have all closed down, and there isn't even a simple cafe or coffee place there. The choices are the DQ, McDonald's or the Subway inside the Walmart. Everything else has closed down, shut down or burned down. It's very sad.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | July 25, 2023 8:30 PM |
Wuddabout Maggiano's! It beats the hell out of that garbage at the Olive Garden. Olive Garden is shit.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | July 25, 2023 8:32 PM |
I’ve eaten at all at least 2 or 3 times, except for Cheesecake Factory which I’ve not been to. I had a friend that loved Applebee’s and would take me there for lunch or dinner. The safest thing to order at these places is a burger and a beer.
I’m not into these chain restaurants. I have a whole bunch of unused gift cards to these places that people have given me over the years. We have a lot of good restaurants where I live, no need to go to a chain.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | July 25, 2023 8:34 PM |
[quote] Wuddabout Maggiano's!
Maggiano's pasta is just as disgusting as Olive Garden AND doesn't have a decent salad.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | July 25, 2023 8:35 PM |
All this capitalist progress, all this immense wealth, and what do we get? Fast food on the commercial strip outside of town, a Macy's that looks like a bomb went off, filled with overpriced crap and no service, and the Gulf Stream conking out in 2025. Bravo!
by Anonymous | reply 108 | July 25, 2023 8:37 PM |
R106 you can sell giftcards online and get almost all of the cash value for them.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | July 25, 2023 8:38 PM |
Or give them to someone who can't afford to eat out. They would be thrilled.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | July 25, 2023 8:42 PM |
R129 Yup.
All because the profits those stores were making - and they were making profits - simply weren't enough for their owners, so they were sold and merged, and run by new owners who demanded more, unsustainable levels of growth.
And now we're left with few choices for food, for clothing and home goods, and left with big behemoth corporations that suck all the money out of any local economy.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | July 25, 2023 8:42 PM |
Nobu.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | July 25, 2023 8:48 PM |
of all of the names mentioned up thread Chili's is absolutely the worst of the bunch.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | July 25, 2023 9:29 PM |
By greater Bay Area, I’m thinking r54 is referring to the two or three wine country counties—like Sonoma or Napa—that don’t have the burden of high San Francisco rents.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | July 25, 2023 9:33 PM |
I went to an Applebees once in the 2003 because I had a meeting in Bethesda the next morning and I had to work that day so I didn’t get to the hotel until around 10 PM and that was all that was open at that time next to the hotel. I ordered a steak, because I figured that was safe and it tasted like microwaved gristle. I’ll never forget the taste R92, one of the worst meals of my life, and now you’ve confirmed that it was microwaved. Blech. I’ve just looked it up and they are owned by IHOP.
It looks like Mortons is owned by Landry’s. Now up there with Applebees for awfulness is another Landry chain Bubba Gumps Shrimp. A friend decided she wanted to go to the one in Times Square for her birthday. Never, ever, ever again. Landry owns an amazing amount of restaurants.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | July 25, 2023 9:43 PM |
For "diner"-type food, Black Bear Diner is decent, at least compared to IHOP, Denny's, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | July 25, 2023 9:49 PM |
I'd like to hear more actuals stories of working in the kitchen of these places. Stories of how food arrives prepared, in bags, so just boil and present or microwave, open, pour and present.
I rarely go to Applebee's or Restaurant 99, etc... but will say that I love, love, love, Longhorn's 7-pepper steak salad with blue cheese dressing (I ask for it without the blue cheese crumbles in the salad). Don't know why, but it's really satisfying.
Their bread's nothing to write homme about unfortunately.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | July 25, 2023 9:52 PM |
[quote] how do larger cities sustain a healthy scene of local restaurants but smaller suburban and small town areas cannot?
Residents of larger cities go out to eat more, I'm guessing.
However, a bad restaurant will survive longer in a small town than in a large city, IMO. I moved to a small town and tried all the local "institutions." All mediocre. I was surprised that these restaurants had been in business for decades.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | July 25, 2023 10:01 PM |
[quote] I ordered a steak, because I figured that was safe
I wouldn't consider a steak a safe thing to order. I would actually avoid ordering steak, except from a place that specializes in it.
Someone upthread mentioned Ruth's Chris & their creamed spinach. I did try Ruth's Chris and was really disappointed. I wasn't expecting that much to begin with. Yes, I ordered the creamed spinach. Meh.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | July 25, 2023 10:02 PM |
That was also me R119. Yes the plain creamed spinach is just meh, which is why it is disappointing that they discontinued the creamed spinach au gratin, which was fat whore fabulous.
Also the bread pudding is good and you know what that means to my people, may they never discontinue that.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | July 25, 2023 10:11 PM |
ElderLez, maybe you need to learn how to make that creamed spinach au gratin.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | July 25, 2023 10:15 PM |
I didn't realize Nordstrom had the Bazille restaurant. I love places like that. Reminds me of somewhere your parents might take you or vice-versa (if you have older parents).
by Anonymous | reply 122 | July 25, 2023 10:27 PM |
I have no idea what "Greater Bay Area" means, but I live in Marin County and we have a Cheesecake Factory in Corte Madera.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | July 25, 2023 10:42 PM |
Landry's is owned by Tilman Fertitta, billionaire asshole. I used to work at the San Luis in Galveston where he'd fly his family in via helicopter. Ugh. He owns most of the Galveston Seawall by now and took over a sleepy little fishing town called Kemah and plunked a huge rollercoaster down over residents homes forcing them to either sell or live with the noise. All shady with the town's mayor, of course. The Fertitta's were a Galveston mob family back during the prohibition.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | July 25, 2023 10:49 PM |
Ruby Tuesday’s used to have good dry rib ribs, but I haven’t been there in over 15 years. They are or were owned by the same people who own BlackBerry Farm.
I think Cheesecake Factory does what they do well.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | July 25, 2023 10:56 PM |
R124 wow. And one house remained when this google pic was taken. Looks like the Woody Allen movie where the family lives in a little house under a roller coaster.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | July 25, 2023 11:20 PM |
[quote]You can knock the Cheesecake Factory all you want but they have everything. You can order breakfast for dinner even!
Oooh. Just like at any diner in America.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | July 26, 2023 12:22 AM |
R2 You "got into it" with your waitress about the correct way to pronounce "bruschetta"? Are you kidding? What's wrong with you?
by Anonymous | reply 128 | July 26, 2023 12:30 AM |
I live in a NYC suburb that will not allow any chains. There was even a debate about letting a non-local bank opening. I like it that way, you can drive 10- 15 miles for chain restaurants, McDonalds, Dunkin’, Starbucks, etc. We have great restaurants including take out places for pizza/Italian, deli, Greek.
I ate at Crapplebee’s once and had explosive green diarrhea for three days, thought I was going to die.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | July 26, 2023 1:56 AM |
MARY.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | July 26, 2023 2:16 AM |
Depends - national chains or regional chains?
National chains - I'd have to go with PF Changs.
There are a lot of regional chains/restaurant groups that are actually really good. I'm saying like 20 locations or so.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | July 26, 2023 2:16 AM |
I worked at two Applebee's locations from 1998-2003, in Louisiana and Manhattan. I guess my stores were outliers, because everything was fresh, not microwaved. Things like mixed vegetables or mashed potatoes did go into the microwave to heat up, but they were prepped fresh daily and put in the walk-in. Steaks, chicken, fajitas and burgers all were grilled to order. The only real frozen items I saw were soups and some apps, like mozzarella sticks.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | July 26, 2023 2:54 AM |
[quote] There are a lot of regional chains/restaurant groups that are actually really good
In almost every place I've lived there's a local ownership group that has either a small chain or has 10-20 restaurants in its portfolio. I'm OK with most of those. They are for the most part serving quality food, and the ownership is local or regional.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | July 26, 2023 4:14 AM |
R132, people just like to bitch about chain restaurants. We need to adjust our expectations. If you've got a nickname for a restaurant, like "Crapplebee's," that just sounds so ridiculous. Go or don't go.
Chain restaurants are good for tired travelers who just want something somewhat reliable.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | July 26, 2023 4:21 AM |
[quote] Chain restaurants are good for adults with baby tastes, people who think mayonnaise is too spicy.
FIFY
by Anonymous | reply 135 | July 26, 2023 4:27 AM |
R73, Weight Watchers rebranded to WW in 2018. It allowed them to attract members who didn't necessarily need to lose weight but wanted to learn how to eat more healthfully. While I don't work for them, I have been a member at different times in my life. All members and employees were encouraged to use the new name.
It's funny but some of the towns near me have wonderful independent restaurants. There was a restaurant that featured a chef that had guested on several Food Network shows. I never went because it focused on IPA beers and served pub-type food. I'm not a fan of IPA or regular beer, for that matter.
Has anyone tried the food at Tommy's Tap & Tavern? They just opened one near me. Their food isn't bad.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | July 26, 2023 1:31 PM |
My small city has its fair share of chain restaurants (no Applebee's, thank Heaven), but also seems to have a thriving ecosystem of local restaurants and coffee shops. There are only a few that have withstood the test of time for generations, but the overall number seems to remain about the same. Asian and Mexican food appears to be on an upswing, while BBQ has narrowed down to only a few old favorites.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | July 26, 2023 6:06 PM |
We had a lot of great independent local restaurants in Metro Atlanta, but COVID really hurt. Some great neighborhood spots went out of business. Closed.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | July 27, 2023 3:57 AM |
Every city experienced a restaurant apocalypse during/after Covid.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | July 27, 2023 4:03 AM |
R138 COVID hit a lot of cities hard. Chicago had an amazing restaurant scene and a lot of the more inventive, great places just couldn't make it through the pandemic.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | July 27, 2023 2:11 PM |