Heartstopper

Size difference

The best part of s2

Was waiting for the next thread for this! It’s been months since I’ve said anything and I have got to say I’ve enjoyed watching the madness but I had to jump in for a second. I talk to someone in the Twitter fandom (I know, embarrassing) and they told me that it is going around in DMS that Joe blocked a fan on Instagram today. Apparently they swiped up on tattoo tal’s q&a asking if they’ve ever fucked someone their own age and tal messaged them ‘u ok?’ and then joe blocked them. Apparently they didn’t even know they were blocked until his ig story was circulated on Twitter and they realized it didn’t show up on their feed and sure enough joe blocked them. I cringe at the thought of tal texting that to joe, but as always joe is a loyal guy who will block anyone for anyone

R3 just sounds like Joe’s private life being important to him. That is absolutely fucked of that fan btw. If they start hiding behind ‘it wasn’t about Joe’ call them out. Where do these people get off

R3 Maybe unpopular opinion but I wish Joe wasn't so reactive online. I wish he could let it roll off his back but can't blame him. I'm glad the news of him blocking a fan didn't circulate on Twitter. Also, heartstopper stans are terribly embarrassing. I can't imagine the shit Maia received back when she was seeing Kit.

R3 I don't know if I buy this, but I also never bought the Pink News thing so IDK.

Fans need to learn to stay in their limits. Who are you to go and ask or question someone in such a intrusive manner?

R3 Joe would 100% block us all

R6 What Pink News thing?

R6 It makes zero sense that PinkNews follows everyone but Joe, so I always bought that

R6 there is always this too. Would he really bother? Is the actual ‘fan’ known or is this just one of those fan generated things to try and shit on Joe and it’s not true like that one on Reddit from a few months ago.

R9 That Joe blocked Pink News for Bash after the HP game thing.

When I found out about Tal, Maia was the first thing I thought of. If some guy with 11k followers was getting asked things like that, I’m sure a semi popular teen actress who was linked to Kit had to have had it so much worse. These actors will never deserve their so-called fans

I’m asking around (I talk to a number of plugged-in Joe stans) and none of them have heard anything about a blocking, FWIW.

R9 PinkNews was pretty shitty to Bash about the HP crap and then people noticed they followed the whole cast but Joe. People think he either blocked them or removed their follow.

And fans are weird as fuck about Kit and Joe They acted like Kit going to vacation with Elton John was somehow weird and uncomfortable for them and seemed to think something unsavory (aka gaaaay) was going down, like I don't think the 80 year old guy was forcing Kit to do questionable gay things in France.

R14 tbh, seems like it's being kept in DM's right now.

R14 Yeah, until I see receipts, I'll stay skeptical.

The Joe screenshot of being blocked is nowhere to be found but someone saved Tal’s DM

Bash and his mom to this day like Pink News posts and I like to think Joe's a little more level-headed than that but who knows.

R14 so, likely bullshit. Man, they really will say anything about Joe to make him look bad.

R18 why would they keep that? They asked a fucked question and then kept that as evidence of what, that Tal conducted himself pretty well under the circumstances?

R16 Yeah, that’s why I’m asking around people who keep this kind of stuff about Joe in DMs in the first place. IF it’s true, it wasn’t a message sent by the usual Joe crowds because they’re not aware of it.

R18 I chuckled at 11K followers, sorry. Joe is so out of his league.

I swear to god if the psychotic fans ends up making me like Lego I’ll be so fucking mad

I’ll try to see if I can get the Joe block verified but it’s through a friend of a friend who apparently is in the UK and asleep but it sounds like it was posted in a Twitter circle that was deleted so now it would depend on how shameless the actual person who got blocked is - if they would send it to anyone in the dms

Lego being confronted about the fact that he's (allegedly) fucked two teenagers back-to-back when he's about to turn 30 in a month and his response (allegedly) being "u ok hun" isn't going a long way to endear him to me. This untalented nobody is not worth this kind of speculation into Joe's life.

Christ on a cracker... To the Twitter Twats lurking here: the torrid celebrity gossip you read here is a moral grey area at best but it is never okay to insert yourself into these people's lives by contacting them. They don't need your input in their lives. They don't need you to protect them. They're adult men. Stop leaving comments or messaging people based on what's written here. It's speculation, not fact. And even when the gossip turns out to be true, you cross the line from trashy gossip to stalking when you harass people who you don't even know.

If you want to support your fave; just watch the show, like their posts, and buy tickets to their other projects. That's all.

Feel the need to contact these people, their acquaintances, their friends, or family? Don't. Ever. Close your computer, lock your phone screen, and speak to a mental health professional.

Need both the fan that supposedly asked that question and Lego to go away.

It's probably not even a Joe fan who sent it. There's some weird small group of Kit stans who think trashing Joe is how you fight the people trashing Kit.

R25 Fuck that. Joe's legal and can fuck who he wants. Lego's not worth it, but I hate this shit with trying to police who he wants to date/fuck/follow. not going to make me like the guy, but a dumb ass teenage fan does not need to confront anyone with anything.

R26 not that it’s on the same level at all but Kit was literally talking about ‘fans’ inappropriately contacting people in his life in the NY Magazine article. It’s like they can’t see where their behaviour lines up with what they condemn. Leave obscure Lego Tal in his obscurity

R29 Notice how I never said anything about this reflecting poorly on Joe.

Any time Lego comes up it’s the worst fucking vibes. Bring back Nick.

R24 that’s a lot of steps removed. Sounds like total bullshit to me, particularly as it’s now deleted. What they get out of this shit, except looking like pathetic fuckwits themselves, I’ll never understand.

R32 He needs to do a European tour so Joe and he can have a session or two. Remind Joe of types of alternative dick available

R31 Never said you did. Just agree with R26 and nobody needs to confront anyone. Lego can fuck off for all I care.

R32 Unpopular view, but Nick would be a disaster if that news ever out out to a wider audience. So not too sad he's getting butterflies over random twinks and is too poor to travel Also red flag for that he didn't fall in love with Joe instantly.

while I get sharing the gossip on here I don’t think there’s any point trying to verify the block or not. That person is a fucking loser for DMing Tal that whether or not joe blocked them, and I also don’t appreciate that we’re trying to pinpoint whether or not he did. If he didn’t, great it rolls off his back. If he did, nothing wrong with finding that overreach inappropriate but maybe shitty of us to being that down on him over nothing.

R5 I mean I just disagree with calling him reactive for this, to be honest. If he put fans on blast, totally. But this is a fandom that made Kit feel forced to come out and while I don’t like bash for many reasons now, functionally terrorized him for playing a bad character and joe for dating him. If joe wants to guard his peace and not give access to his life to someone who uses it to be creepy about his hookups, then that’s fine. I would not classify that as reactive at all, any more than I would classify kits coming out as such.

R35 Nobody should be down him for blocking a random idiot anyway. I think it's gotta feel like shit when a fan of yours uses you to attack others anyway.

R35 I’m not down on Joe for blocking the person if he did. It rings like bullshit to me and being a gossip site I say my piece but I don’t care if it’s verified or not. That person would deserve it tbh.

R37 also if they’re going to cross the line to DMing tal I would not doubt this moron also DMd joe something about how he can do better and save himself for marriage or return to bash or some shit, so there’s that dimension too. IF it’s true, which unclear.

R38 sorry that was a typo — meant to say “bring that down” as opposed to “being that down”. Aka bring that to the attention of Reddit and twitter.

The whole point of gossip is to talk about people BEHIND their backs.

When you actually say this stuff to their faces, that's crossing a line.

Got a screenshot of the Twitter circle post but the girls username (I’m just assuming it’s a girl) is blocked off. I won’t share it here if the consensus is that it won’t help anything - I am willing to however -but the girl made a joke about “Joe noticed x1 not how I would’ve wanted it to be!”

It’s so disturbing to see the level of comfortably psychos like this have with people. Hopefully this passes and hopefully the only dms OF Nick is getting are people wanting to collab

Not saying tal is a manipulator, I don’t like the guy or the age difference but He’s probably fine. But what these dumbass teens don’t get is when they harass the questionable hookups of their favs, that legit just gives those hookups ammo to make their fav feel guilty and more loyal or bonded to them. Especially since joe is so sweet and cares a lot about people. Ironically if they think tal is a manipulative creep, calling him on it instead of ignoring and respecting joes peace is the best way to push Joe closer to him and feel guilt and the needs to “make it up to him” that the fans are demented

R39 Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if it were true, also wouldn't be surprised if there were more to the story or they made it up to make Joe look bad even if they are the only ones who look bad.

Regardless every person Joe or Kit get seen with gets shit on and people seriously need to stop bothering them and roast them privately like respectable people, espeically random people with a couple thousand followers like Sof (who Kit had to defend publicly), Nick or Tal. Poor guys are never gonna get to have a fun slutty summer at this rate.

Ok so guess we’re ignoring the fact that “verifying” this info brings twitter and Reddit down on joe, brilliant

R42 Post it. Kinda interested. I don't think it matters that Joe blocked the person. He's not the one who looks bad

R45 Who is gonna go after him for blocking someone who crossed the line and DM's someone Joe knows?

R42 in my opinion, don’t post it. Think Kit and joe both get plenty of shit without us assisting, thanks.

R47 people went after him for blocking a girl who relentlessly harassed his at the time boyfriend and said he blocked her for speaking up about sexual assault. There were calls to recast him. Just don’t think our need for a screenshot is that important in comparison.

R40 i mean if it was something egregious sure but this is more proof of a fan being inappropriate and a loser than a bad look for Joe. Cute pic of OF Nick and Joe in subway station was probably right to be gatekept (RIP Tapatalk) at the time because people were hysterical. This is pretty harmless shit and reflects badly on the fans not Joe but YMMV.

R42 yikes, don’t actually post it. Let’s take your word it’s true and the girl got the attention from Joe she wanted already

R49 Different situation. For some odd reason that girl was one of the most beloved people on hstwt and they twisted it that to mean Joe was fighting against SA survivors and she had lost her previous account so nobody saw all the Bash hate.

Don't gotta post it since it happened anyway, but just not seeing how Joe's gonna get shit for it. Even the most demented fans aren't going to say that person was correct in DMing a random person.

R51 agree to disagree. This is again, a fandom that made Kit come out over holding hands with a girl. Not sure why you’re applying logical reasoning to them.

R43 no relationship is stronger than the one between your best mate the guy you told him was a loser.

I won’t post it, but agree that anyone who wouldn’t see joes as being completely reasonable is insane.

And the Rhea is a talentless cunt joke made the rounds as us being horrible. Keep up that energy and we'll rid ourselves completely of twitter

R52 True, who knows they could be thinking they were doing Joe a favor.

Funny how the Twitter fans have the audacity to call us 'old freaks' but they're the ones crossing every boundary.

R43 Yeah, Joe getting protective over him is not good for those who want it to end quickly. Bunch of morons. And curious if Joe didn't like his reel for that reason when he liked his post from this morning within 30 minutes.

R57 I do actually think promo has started, thus the reel not being liked and Kit being offline most of the day

R54 well we already know the fandom is insane, so its best this way lol.

R58 Lego texting Joe a fan was being mean to him if they weren't hanging out would be wild, but I suppose it could have happened. Don't think he was working today since we weren't blessed with anymore new uneven lines.

RWRB guy posted a comment on a TikTok excited about them and HS.

R60 he’s a weirdo for it if it happened but I guess it would be something like a “your fans are wild” with a ss. But again unclear it happened to me (the joe block)

Casual shirtless joe squeezing a stuffed animal and giving me cute aggression is very welcome.

R62 I need this so badly.

R62 Clicked so fast and it's just ugly Alice art. A warning next time please

R64 tragically that’s the case, Will TW in the future

How do they exude zero chemistry in a hand holding pic?

R66 The 0 chemistry got them 6M views on their trailer. Straight women don't care about real chemistry.

There is the pic where they are lying on the jetty and one is kissing the others bicep (please don’t make me look for it…) and there is still zero chemistry. All I could think when I saw it was how much I would love to see Joe doing that to Kit.

R67 I will never understand what straight women get from the idea of two guys fucking. Why are they so horny for it? I always feel like I’m missing something

R67 oh I’m not doubting it’ll get a lot of views. Just blows my mind how badly they fumbled the casting. And it has nothing to do with their IRL sexualities. Jonathan Bailey is gay and made me think he wanted to fuck Simone Ashley in Bridgerton.

R70 Bailey made me think he wanted to fuck Ariana Grande at the tennis the other day. Guy can really turn it on. Assume their chemistry will be great in the movie based on that performance

R69 Part of it is that two men fucking is a “safe” dynamic for them. They see two men being hot without risking a man actually hurting them in a relationship.

Updating myself from the last thread, despite Kit still not sharing it Kit's profile is the top article on Vulture now.

R73 he’s extremely popular even in the USA clearly. Really happy for him

Apologies if these were posted but Pride pics I hadn’t seen yet. Will and Kit are hot as fuck. Bash truly has no waistline, no ass, no jaw, and no pecs. Astounding

And this one. not to sound like a frau but joe is legitimately beautiful facially

R75 Kit's facial expression is really hot in this. Kind of crazy how flat Bash is from every angle.

R77 despite joe looking freaked out and sad half the time, understandably, he and Kit both looked so incredibly hot. Don’t think there’s a single bad pic of either the whole day. Bash - there are many.

To use my favorite DL term and thanks to whoever coined it, I can see joes little sad Victorian orphan face in the first pic. He really looks gorgeous from so many angles. The wonders of having a good jawline

R79 that was me and I’m extremely proud of it. Really enjoy when it’s used.

R76 I also don’t want to sound Frau but agree he really is a beautiful man. Perfectly acceptable to talk about how beautiful men are basically any other forum but we are all on high alert here for the Twitter girls. Funny really

R76 I think my main concern is always neutering and desexualizing him the way they do. To be clear he’s hot as hell and I cannot describe how lucky every man who’s fucked him is. But facially his bone structure is gorgeous and he has an amazing smile so beautiful just fits for a lot of those pics

R81 ah gotcha. To me a man can be both beautiful and hot as fuck - and in Joe’s case also adorable. He really is attractive on multiple levels. Very jealous of his roster (which I wish was much longer tbh)

R82 good point, truly great triad of just aesthetically beautiful, cute aggression, and fuckable. A winning combination.

for me the smarts and civic-mindedness seals the deal.

R84 Not to make the obvious comparison, but Joe and Kit are both appealing for how intelligent they come across in ways that, for example, the guys from RWRB don't. I read their GQ Hype profile and watched that video interview they did and they're very, very bland.

Speaking of, I'd be surprised if we don't see Joe and Kit on a GQ Hype cover in the next couple of weeks.

R85 when you said the obvious comparison I anticipated bash, who is an actual moron. But agreed, Joe and Kit are both extremely thoughtful and well spoken

R86 Trust, I'll be getting my licks in when Bash has to do Billy Walsh press and the true extent of his stupidity comes out. If the strikes are even over by then.

R75 I thought ya'll were exaggerating the, let's say, one-dimensionality of his ass, but damn that's flat. Thoughts and prayers.

R88 we gain nothing from exaggerating about that flat arse. The effort we put into hyping his dick before he proved to be a cunt was truly the exaggeration

ok so JA keeps posting campaign photos for fall 2023 Loewe. Omar Apollo & Jamie Dornan got campaign shots, im thinking Kits got to be next. As far as i know, Jamie has only go to one show and he already got a campaign shot, kit who seems to be one of JA faves hasn’t got anything, seems a bit suspicious

R90 I wish we had more (or really any) insight into when the JWA x APC collab is coming out, because if he doesn't show up in the Loewe campaign he could show up there.

Press is for sure happening, a journalist from Mexico tweeted that he's interviewing the cast next week.

Benjamin Bruno follows Kit so I’m about 80% sure that he’s shot something, who the fuck know when or where it’ll come out though.

Kit’s apparently at the graduation ceremony at the University of Southampton.

R93 I think his brother goes there, so I guess he's there for Ned's graduation.

R93

relative/friend graduation im guessing

His brother had a real ‘Kit as a Daddy’ in the Wimbledon story. Interested to know if he’s a Gym rat like Kit and his sister

R96 There are pictures of him if you look at his tagged pictures on Insta, he's thin. Looks a bit nerdy.

Unrelated, Kit has weighed in on the Barbie vs. Oppenheimer debate.

Not me being in the same city as Kit. Quaking right now.

R98 If he gave off app vibes I would tell you to obsessively check Grindr, Hinge, etc.

R97 He's so funny for no reason.

R99 no one gives off less likely to be on the apps vibes than Kit, right

R98 tbh I would embarrass myself if I ever saw Joe irl so I get it

R99 I mean, I'm definitely doing that but let's be real he would NEVER.

R101 Don't even get me started on how he'd be coping right now if I knew Joe was within 5 square miles of me.

I hope that weirdo from yesterday didn't make Joe go hide from the internet again and he's just busy. Though suppose I'm a weirdo too for noticing he's quiet.

Guessing Joe’s taking a little sm break after the excitement of having to block that cunt fan. No love for Tobie or Lego in recent posts. I’d think Tobie would be a lock for a like, if not a comment. Well done to that dumb bitch

Don’t expect to see Bella liking joes pics for too much longer, their support for him is sadly not long for this world

R104 It will definitely get to the point with Joe where only uses insta for promo and nothing else. The white knights trying to 'save' him from his potential relationships because they want him back with his lipless ex are going to ruin it for everyone.

R105 Bella didn't like Joe's latest post so yeah I think whatever vibe people were feeling they were correct. She's fully into the Joe hating central group of Bash friends he ignored for 2 years and now suddenly cares about. Bella you got a good career ahead of you and are an Emmy nominee. Please don't be such a freaking moron.

R105 it’s always interesting to see a group of people look so viscerally unwashed and annoying. Isabella literally is a Disney channel actress, Amybeth is coasting on the back of a show she did age 12 where the character is known or being awkward looking and not very attractive, Emily was what, 8th on the call sheet of a spin-off with 2 Emmy nominations, and no clue who the other girl is. But, you know, im sure they’re a lot better company than joe Bella, best of luck

R107 I’d be so disappointed to see young queer actors being put at odds over the break up of two very young men. I wish I believe Amy Beth had more smarts and class than that

R103 I have a feeling he's busy with pre-release stuff.

R107 The way Bella is the only non-tragic person in that group is hilarious. Hopefully they drift from the group when they have to go shoot TLOU2 or something. Even the less successful of the HS group seem to make up for it with personality. All of those people are gross.

This Radio Times tweet made me laugh. I still remember bringing up the possibility of Kit and Joe on Broadway from the IG follows months ago. I'll die if I end up being right.

I mean it’s sort of irrelevant at this point, even Bella is not going to have any sway or cache in joes career. I hesitate to say what I think their future job prospects will be because I think even though I wouldn’t mean it cruelly it would sound bad so I’ll keep my mouth shut. Amybeth and Emily seem like cunts and also look like they smell bad, Isabella is desperate for any attention from bash or anyone, and Bella seems to want to be in with who they perceive as cool

Anyway, this is a good parallel

R110 that’s so funny. Kit repeating it so much plus the Jeremy O Harris thing makes me think he has something lined up for sure, and the Joe/ Eric Kuhn thing also seems too much to be coincidental. If it’s the same play I will sink my life savings into getting good seats.

Never seen a more annoying looking group of people

R113

all they need is an annoying white guy with a guitar, and it would be completely insufferable

R88 tragically no exaggeration. As someone pointed out in an earlier thread, however bash is spinning the breakup is crazy because Joe would see his flat ass and no jawline close up every day like this and was still in love. Boy is loyal

R114 bash is on his way to play his 10 minute breakup song

R115 I originally posted that and only noticed Joe sitting there after the breakup. It was true love on his part

R113 Anne with an E truly looks unwashed

R117 some awkward looking people improve with age. Some don’t. I’m surprised she didn’t use the post as a reason to come out for the millionth time. Seems to be her fav hobby to announce she’s queer every 2 days

R105 Instagram is acting weird these days. You can't see people's posts if you don't look for them. I'll wait a bit before saying Bella is weighing in on the breakup.

R112 Eric and Kit don't follow each other though. And Jeremy follows neither of them, though randomly follows Patrick and Yaz. Not sure what's up with that.

R119 I'll wait, but it's not looking good.

R120 let me dream

The worlds worst merch but we get some new pics

R122 Group pic is nice, seems like more of a casual pic of the cast than them in character. Or maybe Nick is really supportive of James' asexual adventures

This one is really cute and I approve of Charlie being in the middle.

Took the liberty of cropping to the most important people (sorry James et Al)

R123 I think it is a cast pic. Isn’t that an outfit Charlie wears with shorts in the show?

Alice pushed back Vol 5 release date. She's struggling while working hard as usual.

I guess this is the art thing Elle goes to and meets the other people at.

R122 Yaz and Will actually look cute as a couple. This merch reminds me that I am not the target audience at all lol

R127 never seen anyone so useless

R122 They recreated the book cover then, surprised Alice isn’t pumping out a special Vol 3 edition for more money.

R130 I need one of the writers on strike to roast her. She’s so ungrateful and ridiculous.

The way everyone kisses her ass as though she has a hard job

This is actually pretty good

R134 Not trying to be a bitch, but I do not understand people's constant amazement that the actors cast for Nick and Charlie look like Nick and Charlie

R135 oh, I was commenting on the costumes. Yeah, I think to me the resemblance is good but thankfully not identical because nick is not cute and Kit is hot.

Though more importantly those shorts do nothing for either of their asses

I will say weirdly the two things that do always impress me a bit in the casting are how similar their expressions can be and (super specific) the v shape of the back of joes hair. But I think the former is just that joe and Kit both have super expressive faces so can do the semi cartoony thing well

R133 Maybe it’s hard to finish the book because she’s way out of her league and she can’t write pass Nick and Charlie kissing and holding hands. Who would have thought.

It’s a pity OF Nick chose now to post a thirst trap, as I’d be curious generally to see if Joe liked it. But it looks like he was offline last night and thus far this morning, so a lack of like will tell me nothing

alice bitching about leaks on tumblr again, water is wet

R141 If the "leaks" that are freaking her out are the Hot Topic shirts...

Anyway, thanks for the reminder, Alice x

R140 Those aren't very good sadly. Nick take your own selfies. And is thom_yj the twink that gave him butterflies

R140 ngl it was the photo with the fucking dog that got me. Usually concentrating on Nick’s skills and forget that Joe really was hooking up with a hot af guy. Hope new fella is treating Nick well

R143 not as cute as joe but few are. Happy for nick anyway

Nick is hot but Joe is still hotter. He can fuck around with whoever but I hope his next relationship is someone on his level in every sense

Nick's hot, though the whole thing with him seemed too rebound behavior for me to take seriously. hopefully he has fun with the new guy.

R142 so Alice needed two sex repulsed asexuals in the series? Ok. I mean, I don’t really care regardless and Charlie’s PSA is nice i guess

R142 This was the most painful shit I've ever read in my life. Alice nobody cares about your asexual pain.

Agree with this random tweet.

R150 I would not be adverse to joe and Kit being the queer version of an old Hollywood onscreen pair up. Their chemistry is insane

R148 It was nice, though Tori was more reasonable here and probably correct, though HS is not the real world. A teenage boy is not going to be celibate forever because his GF hates sex

R152 if Alice really wants to push the progressiveness she could have them date in an open or poly relationship so he can have sex with others, but I think she’d classify that as egregious cheating

It blows my mind that Alice finds a way to make me dislike them more every single day. Even without the constant bitching, selling the same story that can be found on the internet for free with just slightly different covers to your 14 year old fans is the biggest scam in the world and I hate that she’s become so rich off of it

Everyone weeping and wailing on Alice’s behalf… jfc. Also the entitlement of acting like the show is just hers and she’s the only one hurt by leaks.

R155 Should be thankful for some Nick and Charlie leaks anyway since the fandom is on edge with all the side character bullshit

Baby queen is premiering her new song on the HS IG tomorrow

And a new/old joe screenshot from the Olivia concert. He’s so cute

R157

id assume the trailer is coming soon then

R159 I presume next Monday, 10 days pre show

Alice doesn’t know what a fucking leak is. Licensed merchandise and stills released through Netflix’s Media Center are not leaks.

R140 Wow Nick is actually really hot. Please Joe see the light and dump tattoo tal.

Kit's issue of Vogue is up on Newsstand. DLer that recommended it, you're right that it came out the cheapest. 12 bucks shipped to the US.

R142 Alice's writing makes me hate all the characters. She really has a gift. I'm sorry but Kit will never be able to convince me he's some awkward teenager who's not ready for sex. She needs to figure out something for the show because no one will buy that.

It’ll be fun to see them try, at least.

R165 If she makes Nick the one who's not ready and Charlie is, people might think Nick has internalized homophobia. I know it's pushing it but at least write it as if they both don't feel ready because of something realistic. They're already looking at each other like they want to fuck.

R166 If I'm remembering correctly in the comics they mutually agree they're not ready at the moment but want to do it eventually.

R166 it never made sense to me that if she wanted them to wait so badly, she didn’t just mention Charlie’s severe mental health issues and eating disorder/body image issues. Besides being more realistic that they’d wait a year or more for literal handjobs with that impediment in place, I also think since she loves an after school special moment, this would be a better one. “I am so attracted to you but hate my body and don’t want you to see it”/“I’m attracted to you and ready but happy to wait because you need to be in a better place”. Not to be a dick about her being ace, but this magical need to be on the exact same page about readiness for sex is a real failing. Realistically a lot of people 1. Have sex earlier in a relationship, even young 2. Aren’t on the same page for timing. Nick is a year and a half older than charlie, him being ready age almost 17 but willing to wait for his younger, sick boyfriend makes a lot of sense. And is probably a better “role model” moment.

I get that leaks suck because there was a schedule but the Tumblr girl ranting on Tumblr and acting like you’re the only person to ever deal with this is ridiculous.

R169 also these levels are such nothing. If it idk, confirmed ben and Imogen are dating I’d maybe get some annoyance. But it what, confirms the main 3 couples are the main 3 couples? What a shock

The thing is I respect people being ace and not giving a shit about sex, it’s when people act like it’s this dirty, taboo thing. Nick and Charlie wanting to wait because they’re still young but not getting hot and heavy then remembering they’re not ready and cooling off and even teasing each other about it is unrealistic.

The ‘leaks’ were on the Hot Topic website, is there no communication between a merch shop, Alice and Netflix or something? That’s what’s unprofessional, not the fact that they leaked lmao.

R171 Absolutely. Maybe her weak storyline is buyable in the comics but with Kit and Joe as Nick and Charlie, this doesn't work. She doesn't understand how gay/bi men think, especially horned-up young boys filled with hormones.

It’s the silly uwu gay boy prudishness, that’s the main problem, also people foaming at the mouth at the thought of seeing Nick and Charlie at this age fuck is weird too, however making them into little kids in their minds is worse. Realistically they would be getting hot and heavy constantly! Joe and Kit’s chemistry is going to make the sexual tension more prominent anyway, whether they like it or not.

Imagine whining this much about shit that was already written ages ago and you can read for free

R172 It's not leaks to start with. It's just merch that they want people to buy because apparently Hot Topic has more common sense than Alice and Netflix do since you don't wait until the show already aired to promote it.

Growing up is realising the show is ten times better than the graphic novels because the actors make it work and add more to it. Alice needs a co writer or something, especially if they’re “so stressed”

Yasmin Finney looks great when she’s styled by someone else but her holiday looks and Trans pride looks we’re not it and clearly for some sort of shock value. Also realising she’s hella self centred.

Yaz got a profile i thing on the evening standard

What happened to “I don’t know anything that goes on with the show, it’s all Netflix” then freaking out when Netflix says i yep, release the merch?

R177 She always looks good to me. Wish Kit and Joe had the freedom to go out all at Pride like she did. Maybe when HS is over.

R178 That’s the same outfit she wore for London Pride, right?

R174 It's not even about wanting to see them fuck. She could do a fade to black. It's the idea that they're not ready but in the teaser, we see them almost grinding on each other.

Nick and Charlie have some heavy ass makeouts in the comic too and still don't want to fuck, so she's not really changing anything other than everyone is hot for Joe and Kit and wants them to fuck.

Joe and Kit’s friendship really makes a lot of the show, they’re so genuine and clearly think the world of each other. Don’t think they’re dating personally but defo find the other hot lmao!

People say don’t ship them but I know if they were caught snogging the Heartstopper fandom would throw a fucking party whilst saying “paps are bad guys 🥺 “

Meanwhile I'd be trying to figure out how to send a pap a bouquet of roses.

R175 Also, the show is out in two weeks. The trailer is out tomorrow. She needs to chill. R180 I love her style. She knows how to work a camera.

The good communication and wanting to wait makes sense but it is the heavy making out that doesn’t amount to anything that doesn’t make sense. Like, yeah, you’re ave but I think you know how sex and sexuality works Alice. 100% it would be fade to black or like the Kurt and Blaine sex scene in Glee 😂

It has to be the trailer tomorrow at 4. If Bella is literally just using the Heartstopper page to show her song that will be in Heartstopper I’ll be so annoyed.

R125 Realized that's literally Joe's phone case and not Charlie's, so some of these pics aren't even in character and Alice is still whining

All these ‘leaks’ are pics around the same day fans were taking pics of them in those outfits when they were actively posing with fans and they give nothing away so…?

R189 Joe better do a photo dump when the new season comes out. (He probably won't.)

Does anyone else remember Alice saying they weren’t doing a cameo in season 2 because sitting on a train drawing whilst Joe and Kit say their lines was too stressful?

Always happy for more representation, but really am dying for the day that gay stories are portrayed that are actually written by gay men. When you think of what’s being released: Heartstopper, Young Royals, Red White and Royal Blue and Ari and Dante - ari and Dante is the only one that was actually written by a gay man and will unfortunately receive the least amount of attention

They’ve realised it doesn’t matter all of a sudden.

Joe and Kit need to get out of their bed and move. This fandom is getting bored and needs to either touch grass or be entertained, like children.

R193 That's why I want Joe and Kit in another project, ideally written and produced by gay or queer men.

R194 She needs to find a journal or a therapist.

There's a Wasia Project show tonight in London.

R198 hopefully Joe and Kit go.

Bash is with that Charlie guy in France

R200 Plot twist. Wonder if they are fucking since his boyfriend is there too.

R201 I’m going back to thinking that’s a very friendly ex. Their comments have been very platonic and PG recently plus bash being there? Whatever, maybe he’ll stop being a weirdo

R202 Yeah, think they are fucking

Video is funny since he started paying attention and got closer to Charlie when he noticed the camera

Thank god, maybe new dick is all he needs to make him calm the fuck down

R202 He's been very lowkey since Pride so I assume he's finally moving on. People just need to focus on their favs. By people, I mean jobless twitter fans trying to set Joe up.

I'd assume he's over it if not for the Harry unfollow, but maybe a new guy is what he needed. Sorry Connor

R204 Charlie not even giving him a glance is funny.

Not Bash being the only one all up in the camera when he sees it, oh ew.

R208 I keep flipping back and forth if they are fucking

Maybe they added a third since that pic of him and the maybe ex seemed kinda coupley and not sure you invite you ex to a vacation with your new hookup.

I’ll be curious to see how he acts at the premiere if he’s actually getting ass

Oh yeah, they're fucking. That leaning into him was intentional as hell.

R207 My guess is that he's moved on from Joe but his ego is still bruised, so he's still being a cunt.

Joe needs to aim higher than Tal though since that hookup is not it

100% will still be a cunt since I won't believe otherwise until I see it.

It's honestly embarrassing how much better Joe can do, he needs to keep that at a hookup at most because the idea of Lego being anything else makes me cringe.

R204 omg Bash is so fucking annoying lol. Have fun Charlie…

Joe is out of Tal’s league and this Charlie kid (like joe was) is out of bash’s league

R204 Well thankfully Bash won’t be in the promos.

The way that Charlie guy doesn’t react to Bash’s blatant attention whoring is killing me. He’s going to get tired of Bash really quickly.

R216 The way Charlie just ignores him makes me think He’s already sick of his ass lol.

I’ll give it to tal that afternoon least he’s not attention whoring from Joe. In that sense anyway he’s a step up from bash

R219 Lol like minds here

Surely they aren’t marketing this song so much just because it’s in the soundtrack, there has to be more to it.

Maybe this Bash outting will get Joe to post something. Maybe some more boyfriend pictures from Kit. (Let me dream)

R212 I can't believe he found himself a twink named Charlie. This breakup is more entertaining than anything Alice could write.

Don't think Joe's checking on what Bash is doing

R225 Assuming Charlie's the short hookup a la nick and he'll find someone else in the UK named.... something with three letters (NOT KIT)

R227 I think he’ll bring a hookup to set. I just absolutely think he’s enough of a twat to do it. Or maybe he’ll make a move on Bradley now that he and the curly haired bf are done

R228 He'll be on set for 30 minutes

Joe hasn’t liked tobies post or tattoo tal’s last two posts, so guessing he’s on a social media break or very busy

R230 He owes us a couple of shoots, so hoping he's busy.

R230 Could be either, though leaning towards maybe both since I think he'd throw a like on Tobie's post otherwise. He might not like Tal's for awhile after that mess yesterday

Wait, I didn't realize that Charlie's brother is the one that posted that video, Bash is on family vacations with them already??

R253 Charlie is a rich kid and was born in France, so it's more like where he lives part time. Guess same thing, he's already invited to the family home.

R233 it looks like another rich kid family where they have a house and a bunch of friends there. Honestly a rich influencer without a normal job is a better fit for bash, given he seems to resent joe being busy being an actual success in acting. But I still think Charlie can do better and given him ignoring bash, maybe he thinks so too

R233 We know Bash moves quick, not really surprising. R230 I think that fan may have freaked him out so maybe he won't like posts for a while.

R235 Pretty sure Charlie wants to go into acting. He's had some bit parts in shows. He's like Joe 2.0 without the career, though he was dating Sally Field's son so not sure Bash has much to offer him in terms of anything.

And our least favorite person is already hung ho about these two, showing she just actually hates Joe moving on.

R327 Genuinely curious as to what they see in Bash. He was cute when he was with Joe but on his own, he doesn't offer much to become a hardcore stan.

R238 He's got like 5 stans. Guess they still think he's a cute puppy dog

I think they’re all straight girls who find bash hot and Joe ugly and can’t believe Joe is so “ungrateful”

R237 i'll add that i actually think Charlie is a good artist. unlike bash, who is good at nothing.

Usually if I become invested in a celebrity enough to be interested in their careers and lives, they have some combination of attractiveness, talent, and personality. In the case of Kit and Joe, they have all 3. In the case of Bash, he has none.

Not to be a total dick, because all the HS fans are generally young and i think some degree of oddness is expected. but i've noticed a lot of bash stans are extremely weird, socially unskilled "older" (for the fanbase) women. like I don't think late 20s is old, even to be a fan, but they're the ones going to his play 6 times, paying to go to cons to meet him from other countries, going on ebay to get his brochures from musicals he had a tiny role in. I think they just don't have in real life prospects so this "handsome" guy who lays charm on thick and pretends to be a sweet innocent puppy appeals to them.

Heartstopper IG changed its name to this - so might actually be the trailer tomorrow, with the Baby Queen song in it

R243 I completely agree but I'm also going to need y'all to look the other way if Kit and Joe end up on Broadway. I wouldn't do any of the other shit, but I absolutely would go see them multiple times in a play.

R245 paying to see joe or kit=paying to see actually talented actors in major cities. paying to see Bash=paying to listen to a bottom tier american accent in england's tenth smallest city.

For a reminder of bash’s accent in the play

Interesting how the Joe Bash Updates admins have clearly seen the video of Bash with Charlie and haven't posted it, but had no problem posting Joe and Lego's dumbass Insta comment exchange.

R248 joe is a slut while bash is their precious baby

Yet another installment of “joe and Kit outact the RWRB guys”. This time, it’s hallway scenes.

R250 I'm about 70% sure that the RWRB scene is supposed to be when they're already together and in love, no? It looks like they're still antagonistic in that picture, God they suck.

Anyway, I honestly wish the whole lot of Bash stans that try and hide behind Joe would fuck off. That Lexa girl recently liked a tweet (from last year) saying that Kit looks at Joe in disgust because he's homophobic. These dumb bitches are so threatened by Kit and Joe's friendship.

R251 not only is it generally untrue. But he and joe look extremely fond of one another there. He’s literally gazing into joes eyes. What exactly is her trauma? As you said, a lot of those fans hide behind joe but are really bash fanatics.

R250 it is. They’re meant to be holding hands and gazing into one another’s eyes. Comical

R251 I laughed out loud when I scrolled up and saw what picture they were referring to. I need these socially awkward twerps to go outside, touch grass, and interact with other human beings because that look is the farthest thing from homophobic.

I read RWRB and genuinely did enjoy it, and from what I’ve seen they have done an incredible job of casting each of the two leads individually, especially taylor for alex. However despite the individual castings being great, they just don’t work together. Chemistry isn’t there. So much of the book is internal dialogue where you really understand how they feel about each other, and if that can’t translate to the screen then they’re fucked. It would be like giving two people with no chemistry Alice’s shitty script and expecting them to make it work. Joe and kit are not only perfect as nick and Charlie respectively but also as a couple.

Nah, these creatures can’t be for fucking real.

R251 Actually, I'm desperately trying to find a guy that will look at me with those 'homophobic' eyes. I'll never understand the hatred between Joe stans and Kit stans. A lot of them are mentally ill.

I don’t think I’ve seen two people who are just friends look as fond of each other as Kit and Joe do. I’m fond of my best friends but I don’t show it all over my face like them lol.

R258 I wonder what would have happened if Bash didn't cockblock them on day 1.

R256 I literally laughed out loud. He’s treating a teenager he dated for two years, who put his own reputation on the line to fans multiple time to defend bash, like absolute dogshit because he rebounded post breakup. But sure, he’s a forgiving king

R251

she needs to be so fucking fr, thats the photo thats suppose to prove Kit is homophobic? i need the stans to go outside. like if you want to be a kit anti be my guest but dont hide behind being a joe fan to do so.

R258 Joe looks at everyone like that tbh

R261 it is weirdly hilarious that bash stans, for instance, are out insisting Kit adores him, he and Yaz are besties, and he isn’t being a dick to joe when Kit is being nice but not much more and Yaz hung out with him at one parade. Meanwhile lunatics who have a real grudge against either Kit or joe hide behind being a “fan” of the other and claim they can’t stand one another or one treats the other terribly when they’re clearly incredibly close, mutually supportive, and adore one another.

R250 That is supposed to be the most romantic scene in RW&RB where they decide they are going to be together and they don't even look like hey know each other...

While Kit and Joe look like their about to get married.

Joe's back and liked Tal's latest post, in case people were wondering if he was staying off line. Doesn't seem like it.

No like for OF Nick or Tobie yet though.

Tattoo Tal is fully booked for tomorrow. Good, stay busy

R265 must have had a little calming break after the cunt fan incident. I wish I didn’t know this but after his sm breaks he rarely goes back and likes posts from when he was offline. Exception basically being the bullying comment on OF Nick’s DC post, which he liked a long time after it went up. However, generally think Nick’s nipples will go unappreciated- which is unfair tbh

R266 Not sure how long he actually works since he called working 5 hours monumental

R267 Nick links his twitter on his IG now which might make him avoid any likes, though who knows.

R267 You're right, looks like he only went back about 5 hours. He liked Lego's post from 4 hours ago and liked and commented on Jonathan Bailey's post from 5 hours ago, but skipped the two Lego posts he missed before that.

Random but Charithra did an IG story where she spoke in favor of the strike (and strikes in general). She's really well-spoken. I know Joe and Kit are probably unable to partake in the strike but I can see Joe supporting the movement by not posting anything heartstopper related on his social media.

R270 yet another bash associated person who does more than 🏳️‍🌈🥺🏳️‍⚧️💕

So uh, interview was canceled for the Mexican journalist. Can’t tell if he was singularly canceled or if the whole press junket was canceled.

R272 I can see them trying to avoid a strike breaker reputation for the cast and show by limiting press very strictly to england

As per usual Yaz self praising. The rest of the statement is actually nice but her calling herself magic is hilarious

I can see Kit and especially Joe wanting to limit any press to strictly what is mandatory for their contracts to best align themselves with the strike.

R274 Did someone forget to tell Yaz that Ncuti isn't self-identifying as queer? That aside, definitely cringed at that quote but I'm a hater of that the universe/string of fate/whatever shit in general. That and Yaz can't act.

R276 I don’t really believe in the fated stuff but didn’t mind it. Calling herself magic wa the real “classic Yaz” part to me

R276 He just said last month he didn't want to talk about it for his safety and mental health. Kit even got mentioned as the go to person to mention when not forcing someone out. Oh boy.

R278 It's definitely not her place to label him so it's uh, not great that she did so as part of her little bragging spiel.

R275 I'm starting to think that this is happening already. The NYMag profile went ignored in a way I don't think any press has gone completely ignored before. Even if Kit doesn't share something usually the cast, or Patrick, or Alice will share it or give it a like. Complete crickets this time around unless I missed something.

R278 She also outed Joe and Bash as a couple on IG live, right? Other people's needs don't seem to cross her mind.

I can see Joe and Kit not being into tons of promotion for Netflix, who is a struck company. It's shitty they can make UK productions, air it to Americans and get away with screwing over actors. Though the NYMag profile I don't think has been officially shared anywhere yet. It's not on their IG

R280 She did

R281 Actually I'm wrong. It was on Vulture's IG

R281 There are two posts for it on the Vulture Insta account.

Yeah, seems deliberate to not post about it

The rest of the cast are free to post and share promos, But it looks like Kit and Joe will be sitting it out. Tomorrow will be an easy test, I doubt Joe or Kit will share whatever this song/trailer is.

R285 it’s a good way to strike a middle ground imo. They’ll do whatever press they’re required to do and not piss off netflix (frankly, their interviews and chemistry together is way more important than them sharing on IG) while also giving a nod to the strike overall by sticking firmly to the bare minimum required for them to not be sued

R286 I agree, I'm just a bit bummed because that was (in my opinion) easily Kit's best profile/interview to date and I wish it had been shared more. I'm going to be equally as bummed if we get a profile that good about Joe that isn't shared more widely, either. My more pressing worry now is that either they don't do any joint interviews or we don't get a single new pair photoshoot from them.

R287 oh I agree re the right now. The timing sucks - the strike in a month would be way better, selfishly. But I think it’ll strike a good note for their professional reputations that they stick as closely to the strike lines as possible, even while technically not bound by the same rules and while so young.

The biggest bummer to me is Joe still hasn't spoken on video about his experience joining Marvel, how he feels about it, and what little he can say about the show. Its crazy that that hasn't happened yet, but with the strike it wont happen for a while longer.

Looking forward to bash pretending his not posting is in solidarity with SAG instead of his bitterness that an ex lands a lead role with no experience and he can’t land a comparable job for the life of him

This does not seem like friendly exes to me,

R291 So maybe they're open?

R292 Possibly. Seems he left already and Bash came, hopefully enough so he won't be bitchy anymore

R291 I’d guess that together they play well with others

R291 They live on opposite coasts, right? Open makes sense to me.

Open in a don’t ask don’t tell way makes sense to me. Thus Charlie not posting bash

R295 Not sure. Think Charlie is on the west coast now, but was on the east until recently. And the boyfriend lives both places. So yeah, open does make sense. They seem happy anyway and Charlie asked for him to come back so maybe Bash isn't great.

R293 Charlie commenting 'come back' made me laugh.

R298 already sick of Bash's obnoxious ass lol

R298 Does not bode well for Bash

Will actually lose it if we don’t see Bash and Charlie together ever again after this because of how obnoxious Bash is. That video of Charlie acting like Bash wasn’t there was incredibly damning.

None of the friends or his brother followed him, but not like they were trying to hide he was there though they did their photo dumps with no pics of him, though tishpungartnik put up this pic. Kinda curious

That comment made me Lmao. Honestly bash might’ve even pitched himself to them. Twink Charlie has been in France for a bit, I just didn’t mention it because bash was in the UK. But a “Oh you’re in France? My family has a house in Cannes! Want to hang out?” Isn’t totallyunlikely

R299 I don't know how Joe lasted 2 years with him.

R304 as if we needed even more proof joe is a saint

I honestly don't get the fascination with either of them or the show.

I watched it because I'm weak minded and DL told me to - and I had time to speed binge it.

I feel like Joe needs to raise his standards because we all know he could do much better than Bash or Lego Tal. Nick was cool, but it was a flash in the pan.

R307 not to be a dick. Nick was cool, and hotter and smarter than bash or tal but he was not THAT great. Joe was hotter, smarter, and has a better job. I honestly think Joe is just fucking around rn so don’t care too much, but am manifesting his next relationship being with someone truly on his level.

R308 Im just hoping for someone his age, its not that big of a deal but god the discourse if he ever started actually bring Tal to events. Joe please find a nice boy within your age range.

R09 none of his friends ( minus Lucy, who I think may legit have gotten a tattoo) or vice versa follow tal. And they’ve had multiple hangouts (soho fest, his night with Jenny, some hangouts tal has listed) without one another. I think they’re fuckbuddies,

R310 Not that I think it's super serious, probably more than fuck buddies though, but HS cast is never gonna follow him and i doubt Joe even introduces him to them. It's too weird when they are mutual friends with his ex.

R309 tbh while Joe is in his high twinky phase he’s going to attract a lot of attention from older gays. That can feel pretty flattering and exciting when you’re a young guy. I’d expect his roster to skew older. It will be less weird when he’s 23 obviously. Hopefully he’ll settle more for the mid 20s guys who he’ll have more in common with.

R311 fair point about them following him, but vice versa hasn’t happened either, ex him following Jenny. So doubt he met her. And his non famous friends (Sam, Alicia) minus Lucy don’t follow tal either.

R306 No one here is fascinated by the show. We all agree the show sucks for the most part. We just find Joe and Kit hot. A lot of projection is happening but all in good fun. Nothing too crazy.

R313 I'm hoping for the best but considering he got out of a weird relationship where their whole professional and personal lives were intertwined, I think he's smart not to be so so crazy about introducing him to everyone. Also Tal's family isn't following Joe either minus the brother he met, so doesn't seem to be moving that fast or be that serious, which is good. Hopefully Joe gets over it soon.

Though I think he'll date an older guy next anyway. Don't think he's lying about liking daddies.

R315 are you the ‘Joe will date someone older when they break up’ DLer from months ago? because I owe that guy an apology

R310 There’s also been no movement on Joe’s finsta, so Lego hasn’t made it there either.

People on Twitter talking about “you have no idea what it means to me that Baby Queen is releasing new music” and dramatic shit like that. Girl, you barely bothered with her until the possibility of a season 2 trailer being posted.

The one thing I’m worried about for season two is either they’ll undermine Charlie’s mental health or make it melodramatic.

R319 tbh I actually do believe Alice that it matters to her. My primary concern is that they’ll table it until season three to “fully develop”, so it will basically be “ Nick coming out and being the main character while Charlie is a supportive boyfriend” for two seasons and Joe will be kind of sidelined as a result. Hopefully I’m wrong, and either way we will see in two weeks.

I groaned out loud when I came on here and saw that BQ was involved in HS again. I hated that Colours of You song and thought Nick deserved a better song.

R320 I think it’s possible they’re sleeping on Joe at the moment because (even though it’s everywhere in the comics already) they want his storyline to have more impact. I wasn’t optimistic but if a self harm warning is now on the series I think they’ll dig in. Charlie is really Alice’s main character and while she doesn’t care about Joe much, she’s vain enough she’ll want her really significant storyline to still be a central one. Kit is the golden goose but I think a lot of that is sm. Joe seemed to be on a lot of the teaser (well, the back of his head).

R322 we shall see.I’m not someone so self pitying and glum as to think Joe/Charlie will be ignored forever, but his storyline being bigger in season three seems not unlikely, but kind of a dumb move

Charlie’s storyline is the only sure thing left. Every new storyline is a gamble that may not pay off. It’ll be dumb to focus on surprises and ignore the thing that fans expect to see. But we’ll see.

Even if they try to sideline Joe at least we’ll have Kit constantly talking about how great an actor he is and talking about how amazing he is in season 2 because I’m sure they won’t neglect the storyline (or they won’t have a main storyline.)

I think it'll end up being like the first season, where there was a huge gulf between the Charlie and Nick stuff (together + individually) and everything else. The writing will be marginally better for them than everyone else, but more notably their acting will be hugely better than everyone else's. Even if you gave someone like, for example, Yaz a better storyline on paper, she wouldn't be able to elevate it. They'll both have a mix of the cutesy stuff (judging by the trailer, to showcase their chemistry) and the meatier stuff (Joe's talked about Charlie's more mature storyline and a journey he goes on, the self-harm rating adjustment on Netflix; Kit will have Nick's coming out to his family and struggles with coming out to more people in general).

R320 I disagree. I think Nick and Charlie's storylines were well-balanced in season 1. I think people conflate the social media attention towards Kit and the fandom's response to him versus what really happened in the show. They were both equally the lead.

Relevant bits from Will's Glass Man interview:

[quote]Now on the precipice of a second season launching onto our screens, and with the plot remaining firmly under wraps, I question how his character has changed. "You see Tao maturing, he becomes more self-aware and he starts to unpack a lot of the reasons why he is the way he is. He reaches that point that I think a lot of us went through in school where you're more reflective and less irrational," says Gao before laughing. "I'm also a lot taller now."

[quote]The beauty of the series runs deeper than its LGBTQIA+ themes and into the cast itself. "We became such a family," remarks Gao, who refers to his peers multiple times during our conversation, hinting at how much they continue to lean on one another, whether it be on the phone or over their [italic]Come Dine with Me[/italic] style evenings with red wine and pasta on their off weekends during filming.

R328 Like most families, they reached their dysfunctional post divorce arc. Though assuming things will be fine while filming, just minus one person.

I'm sure someone will track this down fairly quickly, but I want to have a little fun and make it harder for the lurkers.

R330 Cracking up at the watermark. That’s a really cute picture, thanks for tracking it down.

Yaz, Kizzy, Cori, and for some fucking reason Rhea on the cover of Cosmo.

R330 Thank you for this. Outside of Kit/Joe content, Will/Joe are my faves because of the massive size difference between them. And the watermark is inspired.

The girls & kizzy on the cover of cosmo uk

R332 Not those baby hairs on Rhea.

R330 Need more dicks, but good job

love this for them but i need a joe/kit cover soon

R335 I didn't have a dick I liked enough on hand, but I'm open to suggestions.

R332 My reaction at seeing Rhea on that cover. They better not try this shit with the guys and sneak Bash in.

R334 what self respecting teenage girl is going to buy a HS focused Cosmo without Kit Connor on the cover. They are vastly overestimating the appeal of the rest of cast

You can really tell Corina and Kizzy are the closest on that cover but they all look great! Now we need one with the guys… and the main four/six.

Don’t mind Reah on the cover so much as much as it should have been Jenny but I will be fuming if they do that with Bash.

R336 I'm kind of thinking they might be on the next Gay Times cover, but that would suck because they're digital-only and I would want a print copy.

Doubt they would. Joe, Kit, Tobie and Will make more sense for a guy's cover.

Both the Evening Standard and Cosmo UK covers were shot in May, I'm hoping Kit and Joe shot something together in NY so that they have enough turnaround time for print.

R334 I think the cover is gorgeous and I don't mind Rhea. I simply don't understand Netflix's promoting strategy this season. Even YR was better at promoting the second season and creating hype. You can see on Twitter the fans are starting to drift.

This page is run by clowns.

R345 Don't know why they don't just close that update account and just make it Bash updates

R344 even the most performative progressive fans are going to struggle to keep up the pretence of interest if they don’t give them Kit and Joe together soon. No one is really into the show because of Yaz, regardless of how impressive she is. This could really be a bit of train wreak

There’s this one person on Twitter who constantly has to say the opposite theories from everyone else and it’s so annoying. Most people have the common sense to question why BQ is taking over the Heartstopper page to promote her song if not the trailer too and they’re like “You’re all wrong”

The UK promo has been subpar this year and they don’t even have the strike to blame. It’s two weeks before it airs and it’s like the fans are expected to promo.

Also; where’s all the JoeKit covers we should have/should be getting by now? If they’re doing lots of shoots/interviews squashed in this week I feel sorry for them.

We’re all commenting on the promo but I bet we’ll get inundated with it next week and the week of the show and after it’s out but they really should have some stuff out by now too.

R347 They've been hyping the season for months and now, two weeks before it drops, it's crickets. Nothing substantial. At this point, I can't even blame fans for disengaging.

I’m guessing Joe and Kit are doing interviews and shoots all day for the past week and a half due to their silence and them only seeming being online after 10pm. Poor guys.

Should have realized it's going to be a mess with how things have rolled out. Sloppy leaks, too many side character stills, the pride disaster and releasing the teaser on a bad day, etc. Keeping my expectations low.

R352 Joe's been online, other than that break for a day and a half, and Kit was at his brother's graduation, so not sure that's true

Okay so for Joe and Kit, stuff we might be getting at some point? Maybe? All of this pre-dates the last couple of weeks. Someone let me know if I'm missing something.

Joe: Potentially High Snobiety, potentially one other shoot from when he followed Nick Irwin (maybe Hunger?).

Kit: Whatever this shoot is, maybe Numero Netherlands (based on him following the magazine and Nick Thompson).

R355 That's most likely their own team setting that up. I'm wondering where is the joint promo from Netflix. Even last year we had the GayTimes photoshoot and Attitude photoshoot before the season aired. This year is a mess.

I think the trailer with BQ song, like others, but I also think it’s going to be a mess. It will be all the stories mushed in to set people up for the expanded ensemble style of the show. Just a prediction based on the recent stills, the Cosmo cover, Yaz’s ES. Can feel myself rapidly losing interest

Why did Yaz bring her dog to an event

I feel like if it was a trailer they would be hyping up way more.

R358 Because she can. Divine is over it anyway

Maybe she did a music video with some of the cast or something.

R357 Everything is sporadic and there's no build-up or anticipation. And the cast not hyping anything doesn't help. A mess.

R333 agreed. Will should pick him up.

R357 It's turning into Degrassi.

Devine looks like a person’s soul is trapped in her body in that picture…

When everyone is agreeing that promo is an absolute cluster fuck, then you have a problem. I’ll be excited and glad to see it when we do and I’m sure there will be some great Joe and Kit interviews coming out but fucking hell…

Public Eye has basically been carrying the promo up to this point. Kit, Yaz, and Will are the ones that have been most out there.

R363 Needs to do this again. Joe seemed to enjoy it

R367 Joe has got to get on their books. He’s PR is so shit

R368 joe is so tiny. Idk how will and Kit can resist carrrying and grabbing him 24/7

The fact that bash carried Nell instead is so odd

R371 Well they are bestie and that was past the Joe and Bash would stand close in fan pics

RIP Cute Bash

Didn’t realize Charlie’s potential boyfriend basically devoted ALL his pics to him. Yeah, I’m not getting “broken up”

R370 To be fair, Kit was trying even when Bash was in the picture.

R372 See, that picture makes me so sad. Bash had such a genuine, happy smile there. I do think he let his ego/insecurities get in the way of a good thing.

R373 Tbh leaning towards Bash inviting himself. Charlie's been in France for awhile and all their friends have pics of them together from the trip. They also don't give me a open vibes. Just seems weird to invite your hookup to the same location of all your mutual friends with your BF while Charlie leaves comments to the BF telling him come back. So going with Bash will still be a little bitch so he didn't get his revenge Charlie fuck.

R374 hope someone with sense has a video camera on them 24/7 at the premiere and shoos bash away with a broom like a dog when he tries to glue himself to Kit. Need to see Kit all over joe thanks

R375 Thought I was just being petty but looking at old threads his looks and just overall vibe are completely different now. So people can't try to have a gotcha moment when people don't find him attractive anymore.

R374 I’ve always found the way they turn to look each other in the eyes pretty cute.

R374 joes little princess face in that always makes me laugh. Love that he leans into being little and cute

R378 I honestly think he just hit his looks peak around 19-20. Plus the current pettiness isn’t helping

Yaz's Evening Standard interview, there's some interesting stuff (mention of the new guy and starting HRT), but this is the HS stuff:

[quote]To the delight of Heartstopper fans (Heartstans?), the show is back for a second season this summer (and has been greenlit for a third, too). Finney teases that we will be seeing a lot more of Elle: ‘[It was] amazing but also new for me. I just took it and I ran. I’d still be learning my lines the night before filming, praying everything went well… it did, and I killed it every time.’

[quote]Art, it soon becomes clear, is a big part of Elle’s evolution this season: hence Finney’s choice of venue for our meeting. Though looking at past interviews, you soon discover she rarely does a trad ‘sit down’ conversation, preferring to roller-skate, trampoline or do anything that involves some sort of movement. ‘It’s about getting your mind going. I think it’s so easy to sit in a room, with a phone there, and have all these things prepped, like a robot. I’m always just like, “Okay, what have I not said? What is a different side to me that I want people to know about?”’

[quote]In terms of Elle’s character, art ‘really unlocks something. It’s kind of like when you find a passion for something when you’re so young, you just want to fulfil that. What’s inspiring to me isn’t just the fact that she’s trans or unconditionally herself — I think it’s that she’s so ambitious and knows what she wants to do. She knows that she wants to go into that world and she’s got her eyes on the goal.’

R380 I bet he's a menace around well built guys. Constantly goading them into picking him up and pushing him around.

R382 I actually cackled at “I killed it every time”

R382

[quote] When Marsha P Johnson threw the brick at Stonewall, it was a pivotal moment

Girl...

R385 “ I feel like I have a little bit of Marsha P Johnson in me.” Honestly sometimes she circles back around to being a bit funny and iconic for me

Bold to say “I killed it every time” before the season comes out…why do I have a feeling in two weeks that statement just won’t hold

Okay did laugh at her calling her new guy another living orgasm. She's so free in talking about sex and hooking up too. Good her.

Think she was talking about her dog, but I like your version better

R389 She was, but leaned into it so I'm gonna go with my version too

Looks like the bit about Ncuti being queer was edited out online, but is still in print.

R330 the shorts riding up joes thighs…

R392 Oh wow.

Kit and Joe both liked the Cosmo UK cover, Joe liked Yaz's ES cover, but no reposts. Which seems out of character, so another piece of evidence of them supporting the strike.

R392 Was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice that, I caught that when I was watermarking the picture.

R395 when joe is in a photo I’m immediately looking for every inch of skin I can find. He is so hot

R394 if one or both ignore whatever is happening on the HS IG in an hour, think it’s as very safe solidarity presumption

R394 I actually wondered if Joe came offline so he didn’t have to like Tobie’s post as Disney is a bit close to home for him in terms of the strike

I think he just took a break or was busy. Disney Paris to SAG is a bit of a stretch.

R399 just one pet theory- probably more likely because of cunt fan that lacked boundaries

There’s a rally in solidarity of the SAG strike in London tomorrow, will be interesting to see if they pop up

Tbf I guess he still could but as always, funny to see people (rhea) decide to be so bitchy and ride or die for bash and him give them none of the same energy. Pretty sure cosmo is her first (and last) cover, and no repost from him

Probably too busy chasing after Charlie and getting turned down repeatedly.

Bash hasn't been on IG in awhile. I haven't noticed him liking anything since Pride where he liked all sorts of things. Randomly found out Harry Lambert styled him for Pride from a rec'd post he liked. That tracks.

And Charlie gives me twink top vibes the more I look, so not sure I see it for Bash.

R403 Charlie desperately trying to charter his bf a flight back to France

Sometimes I see a gif of Joe as Charlie and I'm blown away by how good he is at non verbal acting. I'm genuinely so excited to see how far he's developed in S2.

R406 Lol posted that link in the wrong box, sorry.

R407 it is absolutely insane that was his first role. He has so much raw talent

I’ll be honest, I’m not gonna watch this live just for a wanna be edgy song, I’ll just find out if we’re getting disappointment or not later on.

I feel like we should all prepare for the possibility that Bash returns an even bigger cunt to London after he fails to pull Charlie.

Charlie looks very happy with his rich nepo baby boyfriend, so prepare for the worst. Who is gonna dump Sally Field's son for a D-list in the UK. Nobody.

And I think Bash does the promo for Netflix since all they do is random shit and 🍂 🍂 🍂

R411 idk why but your last sentence just made me laugh out loud. Thank you for that. Would also explain the dearth of joe/Charlie. Maybe he and his sister both put in shifts

R411 Forgot link, assuming nothing special today if they are reposting the poster

I read some other fab was part of a DM’d group who were asked to promo the season 1 trailer last year so I’m not surprised that Netflix are this fucking lazy.

R407 god, I accidentally followed that link down a hstwt rabbit hole. Grim. Seems like 99% of the really active fans are women and they will call racism and transphobia at the drop of a hat. It’s like they’re out there searching for it. This is why I only use my Twitter account to find porn…

R411 sally fields son isn’t super hot to me, though nor is bash, but I looked at his profile and he seems genuinely fun. And out, which is a plus

Did Kit archive a post? I could have sworn he had 41 of them yesterday.

Looks like an old one where he was camping? I think? That’s the only row at the end where it looks as if something is missing?

R418 Why am I completely blanking on what that is?

Also, I just noticed the Jon photoshoot is gone, which was one of my favorites. Ugh.

Jesus Christ, why is Bash third wheeling in this???

R420 Thankfully this was back in the winter so it'll never happen again, but it is absolutely fucking ridiculous that they shoved him into this with Joe and Kit.

R420 Joe now allowed to be alone with Kit

R422 NOT allow, now he's allowed though.

The way Joe tears up every time he watches the coming out scene is so touching.

The way Kit says "oh, darling" near the end is the gayest shit I've ever heard.

Making Joe and Bash watch the Ben and Charlie scene with Kit in the middle is completely wild. Netflix is the least serious company in the world.

Bash makes this unwatchable… why the fuck is he even there?

R420 I know this thread can read a lot into some admittedly innocuous bash shit. But him kissing up to and praising and flirting with kit the entire time and fully dismissing Joe the one time Joe tried to interact and just going “everyone recreated that scene” is extremely shitty.

Also making them rewatch the assault scene is insane. They should’ve included the Joe and Jenny scene as well so Joe could get even a second of praise

Bash's inclusion is going over like a lead balloon.

All of the scenes that they watched were pretty Kit heavy, didn’t give either Kit or Bash a chance to say anything about Joe’s performance. Ugh.

netflix just pissing me off at this point

R428 It's kind of wild how he barely seemed to tolerate Joe. Like he'd rather he weren't there and it was just him and Kit.

R430 Obviously, they always do that.

R428 He looked at Kit when saying that too when Joe was the one who brought it up, which?????

429 there’s a bunch of comments complaining too.

Whoever is running the marketing for this show is a fucking moron. Why in the world would you have anyone with Joe and Kit. Those are the only two people care about.

I know they couldn’t predict the breakup but there’s still no reason for him to be there. Everyone hates Ben, you were always going to get a negative reaction.

Before the break up having Bash in there was dicey as fuck with the fans; after the break up it’s a fucking shambles. Joe has basically zero self confidence in all of this (that t-shirt story is meant to funny but reads as pretty sad) and is given nothing to talk about in terms of his own performance. The Bash and Kit flirting is awful with Joe there now (obviously a very different tone at the time of filming). I actually can’t believe how bad this is

You could tell none of the 3 of them wanted to say anything about the Ben hallway scene, but someone had to step up. Very uncomfortable position they put all of them in and it shows like what are you supposed to say, can’t exactly make a little joke or light hearted commented about filming it

R435 Even at the time pre-breakup is pretty awful to watch your bf ignore you and flirt with your friend and praise him while you are sitting there with zero confidence. Not sure why they thought this was a good idea to release.

Honestly I know some are going to say I am an over sensitive joe Stan for this but I am really tired of him never being given a chance to get praise. I actually do think Kit loves him and would hype him up, but when you include 0 scenes of him acting aside from literally… the assault scene, there’s nothing to say

R437 look yes. I was more talking about it being different for Kit. I doubt he’d talk with Bash like that in front of Joe now. Bash is behaving like cunt tbh. Embarrassed I thought he was such a great boyfriend for Joe

I cannot wait for Joe to do press with actual fucking professionals at Marvel. This Marketing team should have been fired for the pride debacle, it’s insane that they would even release this.

R438 At the very least they shouldn't have overlapped so much with the GQ video, was there no coordinating between them?

R435 yeah tbh I’ve thought for a while now that despite being cheeky and fun joes self confidence is extremely low, especially after the online bullying. I think he just doesn’t like to talk about it but even the way he shrugs off really shitty things has always been unusual to me. Ex: he says he was never bullied in school but then says there were certain hallways he wouldn’t walk down by himself and that being in a locker room setting in the show made him so uncomfortable he had to take breaks from it. Then saying in the GQ profile that he developed body dysmorphia and trying to act like he got over it while still shit talking his own appearance to this day. And as we see here bash doesn’t seem to do much to hype him up

Imagine callinf a SA scene “iconic” also, does anyone want to crop the video to just JoeKit and mute any time Bash talks?

The quote tweets are delightful. A backfire of epic proportions.

I fear all the promo is going to be done from that same day.

R439 Honestly I'm amazed how awful he seems in hindsight so I get your point. It's like he's allergic to anyone thinking he might like Joe somewhat, but was happy to use him for clout in pictures or act like his biggest fan when he could get attention for it when Joe got a big role or did something. With Kit there, Joe is just not a factor to him since he'd rathe use him.

I don’t have an issue with bash really only talking to kit because all the scenes or things that were being talked about revolves around Kit - my main issue is on Netflix for 1) putting these three together and 2) Leaving out all of Joes strongest scenes. If they wanted a Ben and Charlie scene so badly they should’ve done when Charlie confronted him

R445 in hindsight I think we all presumed “if he’s hyping joe like this in public he must be so over the top in private” when in fact it seems like the opposite.

R446 I mean, no. Joe tried to actively engage with him at the beginning and he ignored him. And for the assault scene he could’ve tossed in a “I want to punch me and hug Charlie, joe was so good.” Bash was being a dick to joe in this

How is the Tara and Darcy kiss not an iconic scene?

R446 Kit and Bash stuff is bad not because it happened at all, but because Bash was ignoring Joe at the same time. If he had the same energy with both of them it would’ve been fine.

RWRB released a new poster at the exact same time as that HS video was posted, fucking hilarious.

At least Joe is gorgeous

I’m assuming Prime lost the bid on Heartstopper and decided to get revenge with RW&RB the way they counter every HS announcement is clearly on purpose.

Honestly seeing this stuff and how clearly bash ignores him makes me feel crazy for ever saying joe was probably the more private of the two about their relationship

Just throwing it out there, and not a slight on Kit because he was excellent and the coming out scene is of course cio ic. But the only scene Charlie speaks in beyond “don’t drop me” and “hi” at all that they show… is the assault scene. Then the nick “gay crisis” monologue and the coming out scene. How is that in any way balanced? Joe got no solo moments, or even the Jenny scene which I actually think is fairly iconic and one of his best in the show (and his favorite to film)

And the official HS account only posted the coming out scene. Of fucking course. I hope Joe ignores this show for the rest of his life

I like to take Kit’s discussion of the “proper gay crisis” being weird and unnatural to say in that scene as a dig at alice and her shitty writing

I mean has someone at Netflix really wanted to fuck Bash for last year? Why the fuck is he all over everything?

R451 he and Kit look great (even though the S2 Nick Nelson hair is actually a crime)

The threat always of the Joe fans on here being called sensitive seems to be outweighed today by Kit fans also feeling it’s unbalanced (particularly in light of Bash fucking being there). Thanks lads

I might get shit on but I don't think the concept of that video is bad. These types of videos are popular online. Netflix doesn't know about Joe and Bash and their breakup. The thing that is incredibly weird is the inclusion of the SA scene. If that scene is one of the popular scenes, that fandom is deranged. I also don't want to read too much into Bash's actions because we don't know him but his dismissal of Joe is telling. In almost all their pictures, it's always Joe all over Bash and that's something I used to do with my ex because I was insecure and he didn't make me feel confident. He made me feel worse. Anyway, Joe looked hot. Red is his color.

R457 also it being a pattern of behavior. I get Kit is more popular but at this point it’s also a self perpetuating cycle. He’s more popular so they focus on him more so he gets more hype and more popular. People always talk about how insightful and thoughtful Kit is in talking about his acting and I think he actually is. But joe is never given that opportunity. The GQ interview did it, Netflix is doing it. It’s honestly extremely frustrating as someone who really likes both and wants to hear about their acting processes, and wants Kit to have the chance to praise Joe. Because I think Kit adores him and wants to hype him but is never given the opportunity.

The shame is clearly the rest of the stuff out of Netflix proper will have Bash in all of it. This was all filmed months ago. What a colossal fuck up.

We can only hope that other outlets feature just Kit and Joe, but the boys may not do any of those type of interviews to respect the strike.

This might be one of the worst promotional runs I’ve ever seen.

Honestly, im with R455 but Joe is definitely a better person than me. The company i work for treating my boyfriend better than me when i am the lead and him leeching on to everything like he is one of the main leads. I would be fucking livid.

Joe if you never support them again, im with you

R458 uhhh Netflix absolutely knows about their relationship and breakup, sorry

R457 Pretty sure we're all with you Joe stans on this on here (and on Twitter). The inclusion of the coming out scene again makes sense, it really was iconic, but you could have swapped out any of the other Kit scenes with the Charlie and Tori scene. Or not included the SA scene at all instead. Or just added it with the rest of the scenes. It's a 7 minute long video, no reason it couldn't have been 10 to add that scene.

Joe better be getting all of the phrase and conversations about Charlie’s storyline when season 2 comes out and as lovely as it will be to hear Kit talk about how great he was I don’t want it to be ONLY Kit and the rest of the cast. Netflix better step their game up.

R458 there is no way in high hell that Netflix don’t know Joe and Bash broke up and it’s not on good terms. There are people there paid to know this shit - the same people who released this clip. But your ex sounds like a cunt mate. I’m glad you’re rid of him

Also think the first kiss scene was iconic and that Kit but especially joes nonverbal acting was insane there. And I think Kit would have pointed that out. Kit has also praised joe in the drum scene in the past so there was a free opportunity to show more joe and get some of the joe Kit content that fans ACTUALLY wanted

R464 honestly it’s only Kit. Have never heard any other cast member praise joes acting.

R458 Concept is totally fine, execution was shit. The way the scenes were picked, the inclusion of Bash at all with the main couple (it doesn't make sense even if he was dating Joe), etc. This was right before they left for Brazil, right? How much shit did Bash weasel his way into in the span of a week?

Some people are making the point on Twitter that Netflix probably included the SA scene because Nick saves the day… Yay, romanticising abuse…

Kind of crazy that s1 joe was not only the show, but every cast members hypeman, and while they clearly love him, I don’t think anyone (besides Kit) has given him that energy back. Have heard many of them praise Kit and even Yaz, but joe hasn’t gotten a mention, even from the people clearly close to him. Between that, bash being an awful boyfriend and ex, and the online bullying I’m not shocked his self esteem seems low

The quote RTs are brutal. Good make it known Bash shouldn’t be in any of the promos.

R463 honestly, even just running the kiss scene past the point where Nick leaves would be good. That way you still get them both (engagement) but you also get to see one of Joe’s most underrated non verbal moments. Honestly, I’m used to Joe’s scenes without Kit being left out but even in the scenes where they’re together they never actually get to Joe’s great moments. In addition we now have to get Bash’s thoughts on Kit’s acting JFC

R472 I’m just sick of all the scenes being an opportunity to say “look how amazing Kit is. Anyway, next”. And I say that as someone who thinks Kit is a phenomenal talent

The pie people were right.

So has Netflix shat the bed completely? Wasn’t Bella meant to be live an hour ago? What the fuck is going on over there

R475 they totally have, it’s absolutely embarrassing.

She was live it was just her talking about and releasing her new song. Which was super strange because no one cares.

Marvel please save Joe from these amateurs.

R475 she was. It was just playing her shit song. Underwhelming.

Sorry I am doubling back down here but given the performances of almost everyone else in the show were mediocre to decent, it is crazy that no one besides kit and Jenny, the two strongest other young actors, have hyped joe up at all.

Daily Joe Locke is truly the best fan account

Lol. I blinked and missed it, clearly. What a great day for Netflix and See Saw - so many wins

The reaction video dropped at the same time so I’m pretty sure no one watched her stream because everyone was too busy raging.

On the “no one praises joe” subject, it will be funny to see Kathryn Hahn and Aubrey Plaza and Patti Lupone, extremely well respected and praised actors, hyping joe up and praising him when his mediocre ex and meh costars (not Kit) couldn’t do the same

This is funny and true

R482 this is the thing, Joe will outgrow the shit out of this little show when he is out here getting roses from Hollywood and Broadway super stars.

R476 They were really good for the season 1 promo. I don't know what's going on. Random, but I love the way Kit looks at Joe at 5:35 when Joe talks about the t-shirt incident. He's so focused on what he's saying. Other than that, shit video.

R482

yeah i will live for it. even just Patti praising him on the view got me all happy as a theatre gay.

R485 I’m not rewatching it, but that happened a bit after Bash was talking and Kit looked down the entire time, which was funny.

This is cute if you watch it on mute.

R484 I hate Netflix but Heartstopper is not a little show. If it was a little show, Joe would not have been on the radar for Marvel. They still got Emmy nominations and NTA nominations, that's huge for anyone in the industry.

In case anyone wondered how the deluded bash stans are doing. The good news for them is given how his career is going, doing YouTube videos reacting to HS might actually be in his future so they’ll get their wish

Also going to add the “don’t let anyone make you disappear Charlie” scene as one that is “iconic”

R488 it's a kids show and marvel was an open audition

R489 JBC has replied to and quoted the video 5 times trying to counteract all of the hate, it’s fucking hilarious.

T-shirt story without Bash. Joe is gorgeous.

R492 using photos where Charlie is blatantly ignoring him to prove gays love bash is hilarious

R493 he’s actually stunning. Weird thing to say but I love how he starts off sentences in interviews. It’s always a little breathy and nervous and sounds like he’s about to be cut off. I wish he had more confidence but it’s extremely endearing

R491 HS absolutely helped Joe book Marvel by giving him a platform and acclaim. That role was never going to go to a nobody. The only YA that got and kept the role with no previous work was Iman Vellani. The ones that were cast as nobodies, like Cassie Lang and Kid Loki were or are going to be replaced by more established actors.

R491 Please, I hate Netflix and I'm not even a fan of the show but let's be real. Heartstopper is huge. It catapulted Joe's career.

The quote tweets are fucking insane tbh. I’ve not seen anything go down this badly for a longtime.

R483 lol at this point it’s not even a joke right. Bash but not Cori or Kizzy is just a wild choice. What the fuck were they thinking

I'm sorry but sometimes JBC is a bit hilarious. "Gays love Bash", illustrated by two pictures of a twink completely blanking him.

R498 It's the sheer laziness. I'm pretty sure Kizzy and Cori weren't there that day because they're not in the 200 holiday videos either, but they had months to shoot their reactions and add them even if they had to get them on a different day.

I actually cackled at this

R499 that’s actually hilarious. I mean, if anything, the take away is that twinks are bored and embarrassed by Bash

The likes on this, it’s bad for them right now.

R500 and not to be a cunt but it’s not like they’re hard to book. They both had time to sit down and watch the kiss scene together in the last six months.

Imagine working for Netflix UK sm right now or worse, Imagine being Patrick…

R503 oh and Patrick loves the fake lesbian, he will definitely see this. Glad the bash inclusion is getting backlash, disappointed but not surprised that the overarching issue of joe being sidelined in his own show is being ignored by the fandom

I would pay to be a fly on the wall of the social team. This promo run should be a slam dunk, and they are getting torn apart more and more with everything they release.

R503 pissing off one of the biggest and most sycophantic Kit fan accounts is pretty impressive, and really dumb

I don't mind the SA scene being shown occasonally as Joe's acting was incredible in it and he deserves more recognition for that. But putting it into a compilation of 'iconic' clips that is otherwise full of sweet, heartwarming moments and expecting the actors to comment on it in a light, soundbitey way is weird as hell. What an absolute fucking fail from the promo department.

R507 I'm glad that all of the big accounts are united and furious on this. Anyway, one of the few good bits was Kit's delivery here.

R508 except joes acting is never recognized as phenomenal, tbh. Are there any interview clips or snippets anyone can poi’s t me to of anyone aside from Kit or Jenny praising joe?

There are now multiple quote RTs with 500+ likes complaining about Bash being in the video. This is a massive fuck up lol.

R510 Patti LuPone did, sorry I don’t have time to look for the link.

R503 The annoying Shay is right about why they picked that scene though

[quote] I think it’s an important scene as it’s the first scene where Nick shows that he really cares about Charlie, it’s not comfortable to watch but is a big turning point in Nick and Charlie’s relationship

Since a scene about Charlie's SA can't even be about Joe's acting or Charlie.

R508 the look on Joe’s face while they’re watching it should be reason enough not to include it in the compilation. But obviously if they didn’t Bash being there makes zero sense

R514 They all looked pretty spooked, absolutely moronic to include it. Imagine the whiplash they got going from happy scenes to that.

R512 oh sorry that was me just shitting on the HS cast and crew on joes behalf, not saying he doesn’t deserve praise. In fact as said above I think we’ll ironically see award winning actors subregion, Kathryn, and Patti praise joe way more than HS has

R516 what the fuck is my autocorrect on. AUBREY not subregion

R513 yep, accomplishes Netflix’s 3 priorities of hyping up Nick/Kit, shoehorning in bash, and ignoring joe

R515 Completely insane

Also, this isn’t on Kit or even on bash, but aside from the fuckery of including that scene, optically horrific to not have the assaulted characters actor say nothing while the other two talk about it

Honestly, fuck the others in the cast (namely Joe's fucking boyfriend at the time) for not praising Joe, but at the end of the day the one that has praised him is the only one out of the lot other than Joe that's won actual acting awards. Hopefully Joe worked with Olivia enough that she says something nice about him in the future and we go 2 for 2.

We’re all love bombing Joe’s acting in Season 2 then. Cause it will be good but let’s over do it. DM Kit to get in on the act.

This reply to someone pointing out “Charlie’s assault scene is not about nick”. she’s fucking nuts.

Shay: “ What ! Nick literally follows Charlie and pulls Ben off of Charlie then throws him and tells him to piss off, it was an iconic moment and I think most people cheered, it led to the text with the X from Charlie and sets up the whole does Nick like Charlie as more than friends arc”

R519 The difference in reactions from Twitter to the youtube comments is insane. Only people on Twitter really hate Bash.

R521 I’ll give Jenny props too, she praises and singles joe out a lot

R523 It's the truth as fucked up as it is and how most people view it

R520 absolutely. You’d think the actor who is playing the victim would be promoted to speak first and the actor playing the perpetrator would respond to their observations… it’s a bad fucking look

R526 sure I get that, but as much as the fandom sometimes overreacts, they’re actually correct for once that calling a sexual assault scene iconic because the love interest is a white knight is hugely offensive

I hope some of the complaints are actually about shit like this R520, how again Joe didn't get a chance to speak and how every scene is Nick related and less just whining Bash was there

R520 At least Kit was serious and said something intelligent. Bash's 'I mean I want to punch him and it's my face' was embarrassing.

Helpful insight from DLs fav

R530 that’s typical him thinking his acting was brilliant.

The look Kit gave Joe in that video when Bash is flirting with him like he’s thinking ‘wtf?’

Glad people are waking up.

I’m sorry but I’m laughing my ass off at this.

Besties, new Bash fan delusion just dropped

[quote] Bash is the Tom Felton of Heartstopper

Which DLer is this, love it mate.

R533 I think if as we suspect and seems likely, Kit not jokey flirting or hyping joes looks was because of bash, there is certainly a wtf element to the fact that bash can joke flirt with him but Kit can’t do it with joe because bash is possessive. Also you really see how awful Kit and bash’s chemistry is. Imagine if bash had landed Charlie? Even Kit couldn’t have saved that

R535 R536 The bash hating hive mind never misses

R531 I saw it but didn’t mention it because last time she was mentioned 3x she magically appeared and started commenting (so fucking obviously her). Glad she’s found somewhere else to police tbh

Someone just compaired Sebastian Croft to Tom Felton… As in Ben is as relevant as Draco Malfoy… Uhm… A lot to unpack there.

He’s just not attractive

R535 Yeah Bash is such a huge draw he got booked for… oh wait he’s jobless…

Also hilarious about the Tom Felton comparison is that Tom… wasn’t used that much in promo. It was basically all Emma, Dan, and Rupert. So

R541 Early twink death. Peaked at 19/20 R372

This reaction to the comparison killed me.

R544 ironic because I actually think his parents are aging well. Alas

Tom Felton wouldn’t even be Tom Felton if Twitter fandoms had existed the way they do now. But they play the guitar and sing at about the same talent level so I guess the comparison holds up there

I fucking hope they didn’t film too much promo prebreak-up where Bash is cock blocking every opportunity for discussion between Joe and Kit.

Also Kit looks so fucking hot when he was watching the scene between Charlie and Ben. The man’s ability for nonverbal communication is astonishing.

When I saw someone mention that Kit says darling I thought he said it to Joe and I visibly had a full bodied reaction of disgust when it was him and Bash saying it to each other…

R548 he’s super expressive. Watching just joe during all that made me feel legit sad. He kept looking over to try to be included and bash straight up acted like he wasn’t there

R549 No, that would require Joe being allowed to speak and be included.

Hindsight is everything. I remember when people on here were making points as to why Kit was straight and I was like yeah kinda makes sense I guess maybe he is straight. Then looking back I realized I had the worse gaydar ever because he all but spelled it out for us.

And with Joe and Bash I did really think they made a cute couple. And I am sure there were lots of good moments. You don’t spend 2 years with someone if there isn’t. But looking at it now, even though they were together when this was filmed Bash is kind of a dick the way he ignores Joe.

Gotta say, now that you watch these interactions, the vibes were fucking off with Joe and Bash. If this was the dynamic in a relationship between two of my friends I would be wary as fuck

Honestly this all makes me feel extremely sad for joe. Not to be too maudlin but when you’re 17/18 and receiving an insane amount of online hate about your looks, everyone prefers your costar and good friend, and you’re famous in a way you’ve never known, living away from home with a boyfriend who does nothing to prop you up or validate you is awful

R553 ngl the fac that Patrick and Kit didn’t seem to be just sorry for joe but legitimately worried about him during the parade is a red flag

R553 Bash isn't a great actor so don't think he's putting on some show for their privacy. He just doesn't seem to care much about Joe at all. Like, why the fuck could you flirt with your friend but not acknowledge your boyfriend trying to talk to you and not say a nice word about him. It's weird as hell, not like he was trying to bro it up with Kit either so obviously wasn't worried about the fact that he's stuck in a glass closet. The vibe is strange as hell.

Honestly so glad that Joe is free from this attention seeking leech who has to make every single thing about himself.

R556 yeah even when Joe tries to talk to him and he just goes “everybody did it” instead of “oh yeah that was so funny” or something. He’s a dick. And their photos and interactions have a very bad vibe now. Even the live where Yaz accidentally outed them and joe just kind of went 🫢 while bash basically had a meltdown is very telling.

Bash has fucked with my head because I randomly found Tal attractive and fun in his new reel. Send help

R559 No.

R559 word for word a text joe could’ve written to kit

R559 No.

R552 As someone that routinely pointed out why Kit was clearly not straight and who hated on Bash, it's not even fun being this vindicated.

R559 No.

R562 Thanks. That helped. Let's manifest a good boyfriend who isn't 30

“Finally”? Who in the hell was asking for it? These demented fraus

Anti-Lego hive mind also extremely strong

Love that Netflix hasn't bothered to post it on any of the main Instagram accounts. They must know the backlash that awaits them.

R554 He called himself the luckiest person ever so I think he's not too hung up on those things like we are.

R567 They almost caught me slipping. Says a lot about Bash when Lego starts to look good though. I claim temporary insanity

R569 I think joe has just proven himself to be really sweet and grateful. He also minimizes bullying he faced and how shit he feels about his looks.

R571 Yeah, not saying I won't take his word for it... but he's not going to complain about anything.

Speaking of, nice of Joe to like Rhea’s diabetes post. No Bash, obviously.

R573 joe stays way too sweet to the nastiest people

What bash fans are insisting is cute, hot, and endearing, picking the best screenshots they can, versus joe just existing

Posting this here because I know the Twitter Joe stans lurk and I need them to destroy this bitch once and for all.

R574 Joe has a kill ‘em with kindness mentality. Which good for him, because I couldn’t do it.

R558 Bash seems like a weird combo of possessive but also uncaring. Even with friends, he didn't really give a shit about most of them but won't let them be friendly with Joe anymore and tries to claim people. He was only bothered by the breakup when OF Nick appeared. Like seriously, pick a toxic struggle

R576 Joe threw himself to the wolves defending his dumb ass. Someone please destroy her ass.

And she also liked a tweet slut shaming twink Charlie before unliking it so I guess he's not good enough for Bashy either.

P good synopsis of why, the bash of it all aside, including that scene is fucked

R579 Bash fans are already slut shaming a harmless rich twink that he tried and failed to get off with? His fans are actually fucking too much

R578 bash can’t pick a struggle in any aspect of his life.

Toxicity, as you e touched on: jealous and possessive but also uncaring and dismissive.

Talent: can’t act, sing, dance, or do an accent. Also, stupid.

Looks: can’t choose between lacking a waistline, pecs, a jawline, or an ass so all of the above.

I think we are due for another thread with “Fuck Bash“ or something akin to it in the title.

Bash doesn’t look good in that video (the hair department insists on ruining his one great feature) but I thought he looked good in the still with Kit in the classroom so I’m interested in how he’ll actually look in season 2. I remember being shocked seeing him online after season 1 dropped because Ben’s hair was so fucking ugly

R583 I’ll make the next thread later. Any suggestions from anyone? I reserve the right to override it with something bitchier if needed

R580 The good thing is that I haven't seen much romanticizing so far, but it's incredible to me that they clearly included that scene for Bash's benefit and he said absolutely nothing even vaguely insightful.

R581 Yep. The guy is barely 20 and seems to be in a LTR so not exactly sure where the Bash fans get it from

[quote] Bestie that twink he’s with is more passed around then a blunt at snoop dogs daily session

Y

R586 I mean shays dumbass comment was romanticizing but fair point. Honestly bash could’ve just softballed it and said “god, Ben is such a dick. Joe acted the hell out of this.” The end

R585 long live hearttopper

Yes, stick with hearttopper

R587 The Bash stans are so homophobic it’s crazy. How is Charlie a slut? Because he’s had a couple boyfriends??? Wtf is going on.

Lol as the person who crated hearttopper and also offered to make the new thread, honored to hear you all like it.

R582 what I like about you is how you just go for it. Makes me laugh every time.

R587 tbh if it’s true it just sounds like he’s living his best life (20 was great and busy), and that those woman passing judgement on that i more of their homophobic bullshit. They’re such cunts

R585 IDK.

Heartstopper Season 2, starring two award-winning actors with a cameo from that one guy with no ass that got replaced on Doom Patrol.

Heartstopper Season 2, a.k.a. the last steady paycheck for community theater actor Sebastian Croft.

Honestly, just go with Hearttopper.

Only problem with Hearttopper I think it made the thread harder to find and this slower.

R594 community theater has me dying

R595 fair point. I’ll compromise. Please hold.

R595 Honestly, I kind of enjoyed that. Also, no one fucking mention Lego right off the bat in the next thread again.

R595 tbh the thread being harder to find can only be a good thing…

I did my best