Florida: it's illegal for (nudist) all male resorts to discriminate against women
[quote]A Florida judge ruled that a “clothing-optional” resort catering to gay men in Key West should not be allowed to restrict women from staying there or accessing the areas of the resort where guests typically disrobe.
[quote]In an order issued on June 30, Administrative Law Judge Brittany Finkbeiner recommended that the Florida Commission on Human Relations should find that the New Orleans House “engaged in unlawful discrimination” when it prohibited Amina Chaudhry from making a reservation in July 2022.
[quote]Chaudhry, a 38-year-old cisgender woman who identifies as a member of the LGBTQ community, previously filed a complaint with the commission alleging that the resort’s policies discriminate against cisgender women and transgender and nonbinary people. The New Orleans House’s policy requires guests to be “adult males 18 years of age or over only.”
[quote][bold]If the commission rules in her favor, Chaudhry says she does not intend to stay at New Orleans House — having only challenged the resort’s guest policy out of principle — but feels “completely vindicated” by the judge’s findings.
[quote]“Living in Key West and going through all of this, there’s this just kind of pervasive sense that I was the one in the wrong,” she said. “Like I was some kind of crazy lunatic who was going against the natural order of things.”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 88 | July 14, 2023 3:11 PM
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Fucking cunts. Just let us have our thing.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 8, 2023 10:24 AM
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THIS is why I’ve posted here before that I relish the outrage of all these women who are bitching about trans in their sports and taking over their mommy shit etc. It’s all a great karma to see what’s happening to women now due to the male spaces and institutions they’ve destroyed over the years, screeching about “equality” etc. How’s it feel butches? This story should hopefully remind men of why all those chickens are coming home to roost for the fairer sex.And they deserve every fucking bit of it.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 8, 2023 10:31 AM
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[quote] there’s this just kind of pervasive sense that I was the one in the wrong,” she said. “Like I was some kind of crazy lunatic who was going against the natural order of things.”
You were and are, you trouble-making bastard. Imagine having the time and money to challenge for access to a gay men's nudist retreat?!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 8, 2023 10:32 AM
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R2 I disagree completely. Most women wouldn't take it to the extreme this woman has. This creature has been emboldened
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 8, 2023 10:34 AM
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[quote]Like I was some kind of crazy lunatic
You are, you stupid cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 8, 2023 10:36 AM
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Maybe Island House should charge a "pussy fee" for non-penised persons, like hotels do for guests who bring pets.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 8, 2023 10:37 AM
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R6 or give a penis discount? Like 75% off rooms (they would charge a normal price to the guys but make big bucks on the frauen)
As long as the guys there know that it is open season to talk shit to the invaders, everything should be okay
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 8, 2023 12:24 PM
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Well, we must acknowledge that this is the culmination of a phenomenon that has been developing for quite some time. Since crazy pseudo-feminists started claiming that gay men are intrinsically misogynistic because well, we're gay, we should have understood that these sorts of attacks on our spaces would start sooner than later.
As they say, anyone can become an oppressor if they obtain enough power, but this anti-gay male propaganda is just beyond repugnant.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 8 | July 8, 2023 12:28 PM
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News flash no one goes to Key West anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 8, 2023 12:41 PM
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It's Florida and this trouble making cunt can have it.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 8, 2023 12:50 PM
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Another straight woman who wants to remove safe spaces for gay men.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 11 | July 8, 2023 12:52 PM
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I believe, as a gay man, that we can’t have it both ways. Of course women should be allowed in all spaces if they’re interested.
Imagine if there was a resort that discriminated against gay men, etc.
Marginalized groups (all marginalized groups) would gain so much power if we only supported one another.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 8, 2023 12:53 PM
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omg rose what will they do on father's day?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 8, 2023 12:55 PM
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[quote]Imagine if there was a resort that discriminated against gay men, etc.
There are TONS of places that are women only (traditionally biological female) and, as a gay male, I'm totally fine with that.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 8, 2023 12:56 PM
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“No woman” “No gays” “No cakes”
What kind of a world would it be if we could not discriminate against other groups we don’t like or don’t want to be around ?
I believe Lyndy had every right to be in the Rushes.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 8, 2023 1:08 PM
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Does that mean I can finally apply to Bryn Mawr as an undergrad? They're discriminating against my penis!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 8, 2023 1:11 PM
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The place will no-doubt be taken over by drunken women having "bachelorette parties."
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 8, 2023 1:19 PM
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R12 don't be dumb. As R14 said certain groups should have their spaces that make them feel more comfortable. It isn't negative discrimination aimed to maliciously exclude certain people, rather a space for a particular group to feel more comfortable
Will straight women be petitioning to access gay saunas next?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 8, 2023 1:19 PM
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It's already happening,R18. Club San Diego (gay sauna) is now open to women first Saturday of every month.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 8, 2023 1:26 PM
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R19 wtf? I wouldn't want to go to a lesbian or straight sex club or establishment, why the need to get into gay spaces?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 8, 2023 1:33 PM
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R12 is a female. She’s dangerous and has no business here.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 8, 2023 1:36 PM
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R15 = Also female, dangerous, misandrist and has no business here.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 8, 2023 1:37 PM
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I once saw a female at a gay bathhouse. It was DISGUSTING and I had to leave. That’s our safe space to be free from pussy.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 8, 2023 1:41 PM
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I've been waiting for Gay men to be labeled "Misogynists". After all the whole concept of homosexuality is inherently misogynist. Women just hate the fact they're not included in everything men do. Sorry, girls, take my dick to court then, because the dick wants what the dick wants and for 10% of all men it ain't YOU
by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 8, 2023 1:42 PM
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This is brutal payback for the zero interest in motorboating her that time she wore a halter top to a bar in Hell's Kitchen.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 8, 2023 1:46 PM
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There was a club in San Francisco back before AIDS. It was open to all. Gays, lesbians, straight couples, bisexuals, And those that came to look. A very popular club.
AIDS killed that bath or club not the fact it was open and welcoming to all
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 8, 2023 1:48 PM
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Old joke: If you had a hotel with 100 rooms and 99 were for women, then you had 1 room for men, the women would spend all their time trying to get in that 1 room.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 8, 2023 1:48 PM
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Walk into a HomeGoods or a nail salon on a Tuesday afternoon and every cunt in there shoots you daggers like you’ve invaded a sacred place.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 8, 2023 1:50 PM
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R27 who can blame them? All those hot, sweaty men in a room together. Their bodies aching and writhing for a touch that will bring them to a crescendo of ecstasy. The hands in their pants massaging their throbbing cocks and their nipples erect and demanding a sensuous sucking
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 29 | July 8, 2023 1:54 PM
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Well, none of those men is expecting all those things from women, R29. This Amina person sounds like an insane SJW who is desperate to become the next martyr for equality over things that are utterly irrelevant. There are PLENTY of hotels in Key West and every other coastal city where women can do as they wish without any problems. What is the need to invade other people's VERY LIMITED available spaces out of sheer egomania?
Also, this Amina creature is exactly how you would imagine her: the sort of ugly, fat sow who claims that she is being discriminated because she is too big to fit in a plane's seat, describes a salad bar as a "microaggression" and tells anyone who doesn't want to fuck her that he/she needs to 'check their privilege'. Her photo appears in the linked article's second image, and it's easy to find the social media from there.
In short, she's a total cunt who wants to impress people in her small circle by pretending to be Rosa Parks over a non-issue.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | July 8, 2023 2:11 PM
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"Does that mean I can finally apply to Bryn Mawr as an undergrad? They're discriminating against my penis! "
Why even apply, just sue on the basis that you might apply and feel aggrieved.
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by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 8, 2023 2:23 PM
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For Christ sake Gay men just want a little corner of the world they can call their own. Leave us the fuck alone 😠
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 8, 2023 2:27 PM
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Finkbeiner “totally sidestepped” what Cormican believes is the most important issue at play: the privacy rights of New Orleans House guests who have deliberately sought out a male-only, clothing-optional facility and wish not to be in a state of undress around non-males.
Fink is right! Also, women don't get to say this so why should men?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 8, 2023 2:29 PM
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OMG. Let gay men have their own spaces.
She's straight, isn't she?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 8, 2023 2:31 PM
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I'm not even sure what a cisgendered member of the LGBTQ community is. A lesbian?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 8, 2023 3:45 PM
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I don't know about this (stupid) plaintiff specifically, but many cisgender women who currently call themselves members of the LGBTQ community are merely 'queer,' a designation with no barrier to entry.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 8, 2023 3:49 PM
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[quote] believe, as a gay man, that we can’t have it both ways. Of course women should be allowed in all spaces if they’re interested.
I agree with r12. You can’t have it on your books that don’t allow women. Just as dance clubs can’t say we don’t want fat people. You just make it very expensive for them to come.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 8, 2023 3:51 PM
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So, XY people are now on the receiving end of what XX people have been receiving.
XX people have been attacked for wanting to maintain spaces just for XX people.
XY people who are now angry, upset, horrified by this, but sat back and let XX people lose out on their spaces with approval or enjoyment, without any comment... this is just the same.
Now it's your turn.
Ugly, isn't it?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 8, 2023 3:52 PM
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Allowing women in the nudist area, violates their “freedom of speech.”
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 8, 2023 3:59 PM
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I know what we’ll do. We’ll turn it into a private club!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 8, 2023 4:05 PM
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Can someone tell me why you’d fight to be in a place that doesn’t want you and that you have no benefit of being at otherwise? Is it that you like to be in control or stir a pot? Educate me!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 8, 2023 4:06 PM
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[Quote] News flash no one goes to Key West anymore.
Yeah, it's too crowded now that cruise ships dock there and has had direct flights for years
by Anonymous | reply 43 | July 8, 2023 4:18 PM
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They’ll probably settle this issue by having the Evangelical Christian state government banning all nudity. Only straight white Christian males will be allowed to take their clothes off in public or private spaces,
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 8, 2023 4:20 PM
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So she got pissed that she couldn't hang out and and watch nude gay men and possible sexual hijinks?
What a fucking perv.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 8, 2023 4:33 PM
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"There are TONS of places that are women only (traditionally biological female)"
Uh, not anymore. Have you been living on Mars for the past ten years?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 8, 2023 4:43 PM
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Is r39 five years old? XX have been invading XY spaces for decades, long before all the tranny shit was even dreamt up.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | July 8, 2023 5:12 PM
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R30 I completely agree with you but my reply was in response to R27's joke about the women desperate to enter the only room that contained the men!
by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 8, 2023 5:30 PM
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Why would any woman want to go there? It’s clear they’re not wanted. I’m sure being snubbed by everyone while naked must be a good time!
by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 8, 2023 5:34 PM
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Island House is gross. Her eyes will be burning after 5 minutes of watching a hairy bear getting trained and taking raw loads from complete strangers. Have fun, Karen (you fucking cunt).
by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 8, 2023 5:38 PM
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[quote] Another straight woman who wants to remove safe spaces for gay men.
Safe spaces was for blacks. Stop appropriating the term.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | July 8, 2023 5:45 PM
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R51 is very white. Almost transparent.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 8, 2023 6:36 PM
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The owner of the resort should claim that he’s Muslim and it is against his “sincere” religious beliefs to permit men and women to mix in a clothing optional setting.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 8, 2023 6:52 PM
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Hey Trannies! Leave Us Gays Alone
by Anonymous | reply 54 | July 8, 2023 7:00 PM
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R53 is a smart motherfucker
by Anonymous | reply 55 | July 8, 2023 7:01 PM
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These cunts always glob onto gay men for their own sick purposes.
They want to feel SAFE, so they invade our spaces and change them to suit THEIR needs.
They want to feel emotional intimacy with a man they know, so they befriend a gay man and wish-and-hope-and-pray he'll forget about sodomy and just marry her. Never mind what he wants!
They go after gay besties because they think we all long to give them fashion tips and sassy jokes, so they can have the friend experience without the nasty jealousy that comes anytime two or more women sit in the same room.
You don't see us invading their spaces. We don't hang around their bathrooms, or watch their stupid TV networks, or exercise with their fat asses at Curves.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | July 8, 2023 7:09 PM
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The “ natural order of things” is an old and clever way of persuading people invented by philosophers.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 8, 2023 8:19 PM
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If they turn the guest house into a "club" it's no longer public accommodation and they would have to right to allow membership to people men only. I believe that's how gay male campgrounds like Hillside in PA get around this.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | July 8, 2023 8:32 PM
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^^ "would have the right to allow", not "would have to right to allow"
by Anonymous | reply 59 | July 8, 2023 8:34 PM
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What's next? Being forced to fuck a woman, even though I'm a gay man, because not doing so is discriminatory? Fuck her.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | July 8, 2023 8:46 PM
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[quote]Club San Diego (gay sauna) is now open to women first Saturday of every month.
They'll never get the tuna smell out of the sauna.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 8, 2023 8:53 PM
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And I don't mean I'D fuck her or any other woman.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | July 8, 2023 8:54 PM
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Next they'll be asking for access to our God Damned bedrooms.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 8, 2023 8:57 PM
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How long before we find her at the bottom of the pool?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 8, 2023 9:33 PM
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Next they're going to try and get dildos outlaws.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | July 8, 2023 9:50 PM
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As crazy as this cunt is, I don’t think you’ll now see a bunch of women demanding to stay at all-male, nude resorts. The vast majority of women really are NOT that crazy.
But if I were staying at this resort and a woman or a group of women were there, ogling me as I jacked off by the pool or was trying to load an ass or two, I would give them the tongue-lashing of a lifetime. I would reduce them to tears and make it so they never wanted to lay eyes on another man for the rest of their lives. I would give them motherfucking PTSD.
Women: STAY. THE FUCK. OUT OF GAY MEN’S SEX SPACES.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | July 8, 2023 9:59 PM
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Every woman I've discussed this with is appalled by this woman and can't figure out why she made such a big deal out of it or why she would want to. My sister has decided she's a histrionic cunt of the first order. Most normal women have zero interest in getting into a gay mens nude resort.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | July 8, 2023 10:12 PM
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R53, if owner were Muslim, he'd want to go all jihad against the gays.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 8, 2023 10:18 PM
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I hate this fucking cunt. I hate her with the white hot intensity of 1,000 suns. I hope her periods are fucking Hell
by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 8, 2023 10:20 PM
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[quote]Club San Diego (gay sauna) is now open to women first Saturday of every month.
R19. WTF? I live in San Diego and had not heard about this. I went onto the Club San Diego website, and there is no mention of allowing women on Saturday or any other day/night during hours of operation. It seems rather odd that a gay bathhouse would allow women at all--but especially on a Saturday, which is probably the busiest night for men.
Although I did see a special event listed on the Club San Diego website: "Temptation Tuesday" (Club San Diego is not usually open on Tues), which is for transgender girls (TS/TV/CD), genetic girls, bisexuals, transmen and admirers to be held every 4th Tuesday of the month. Starts at noon and ends at 7 pm. This first event is July 25.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 8, 2023 10:42 PM
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This cunt in Florida is no different than the cunt in Colorado who took her hypothetical case to the Supreme Court regarding having to design a website for same-sex marriages. She never designed a same-sex marriage website. It doesn't exist in her business portfolio. And no one ever asked her to design a same-sex marriage website.
She listed a man's name on her lawsuit. Turns out, the man in question had no idea he was listed. He's straight, has been married for 15 years and has a kid.
The entire lawsuit was hypothetical--made up out of nothing. The Supreme Court took the case (which it shouldn't have) based on "What if a same-sex couple asked this cunt in Colorado to create a same-sex marriage website." No one ever asked her. But supposedly if they did ask, it would have gone against her religious beliefs. The Supreme Court is nothing but a bunch of right-wing political hacks.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | July 8, 2023 10:50 PM
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R56, of course, too, these womem drop their gay friends after they find a boyfriend. After a breakup, they run back to their gay friends. We’re the court jesters until they find another boyfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | July 8, 2023 10:52 PM
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[quote] Chaudhry, a 38-year-old cisgender woman who identifies as a member of the LGBTQ community,
Well, I’m glad the newspaper read her instruction manual.
So she’s lgbt? Let me guess, she’s “genderqueer.”
99% chance she doesn’t even want to go. She’s a straight woman looking for attention by “identifying as” non-binary or whatever preposterous shit. And now she’s taken it a step further by “challenging the patriarchy” at a place she’ll likely never attend because every living soul there LOATHES her.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 8, 2023 11:16 PM
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So she's a cis female who identifies as part of the LGBTQ+ community who admits she doesn't want to go, but just had to make it possible for other women to? WTF?
Doesn't she have hobbies? She should go back to college and hang out in the womyns' room.
Any women who does turn up and strip off will inspire the guys there to get soft-ons.
Fucking bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 8, 2023 11:36 PM
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[quote]The owner of the resort should claim that he’s Muslim and it is against his “sincere” religious beliefs to permit men and women to mix in a clothing optional setting.
Sorry, R53, that rule only applies to conservative Christians!
by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 8, 2023 11:46 PM
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I'm still trying to understand the motive here, and why the judge/whomever didn't question that motive.
She ... must? know what goes on at a place like this. It is incredibly creepy that she wants to watch/be there?
Cause being a "cisgender queer women" ... she isn't going to get far at this place.
This does explain (side tangent) on why in my younger years I had to pay a "membership" fee to various bathhouses clubs. I didn't really think about it, but it must have been to make that "private club" line.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 8, 2023 11:48 PM
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R70, the event is listed as Berlin, where every kink, fetish, etc. Goes. All genders welcome. I went one night. All the women do is stand around and walk in packs or twos.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | July 9, 2023 5:51 AM
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I’m tired of being left out of all my friends vacation.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 9, 2023 6:21 AM
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R12 you are right but reason doesn’t do too well on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 9, 2023 6:30 AM
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R12 there's a lot of subtlety you're missing. Men only & women only establishments aren't discriminatory per se. In theory any man could come to this resort, he just had to be cool with nudity and possibly gay sex around him.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | July 9, 2023 9:35 AM
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I don’t understand these woman invading an all gay male space. That would be like some gay man wearing a dress demanding entry to all female venues say like a locker room or a woman’s bathroom .
Trust me this sort of nuttiness would be next
by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 9, 2023 9:49 AM
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TransWomen will be taking over the bathhouses next so they chat and gossip about wigs. Then they will complain to management about MEN having sex on the same property as them. Wait and See...
by Anonymous | reply 83 | July 9, 2023 10:02 AM
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R71 I understand your frustration at the holding in Colorado—I share it—but you are wrong as to the applicable rules of civil procedure. A challenge to state law under the First Amendment may be brought “facially” or “as applied.” Her facial challenge is similar to many arguments made before (and surly to follow) elsewhere. It is settled constitutional doctrine.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 84 | July 9, 2023 10:37 AM
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Added thought: the real issue here is that the current SCOTUS appears to give the First Amendment’s free exercise clause virtually absolute superiority over any other claimed constitutional right…which is contrary to longstanding doctrine and precedent. The same situation is in play re the Second Amendment, to the nation’s detriment.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | July 9, 2023 10:42 AM
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Uh oh. The Belvedere Hotel in Cherry Grove is men only. Will some woman eventually challenge that?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 14, 2023 1:35 PM
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R86 Don't kid yourself, the second a trans wants to go there, they'll let him. You think women can have something if even men can't?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | July 14, 2023 3:11 PM
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