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Why cuckolding is a more popular kink in the US than Europe

Jul 2, 2023

Americans are often considered sexual prudes compared to their typically more uninhibited European counterparts. But there's one kink that Americans seem to enjoy much more than those overseas: cuckolding, where one partner watches while their partner has sex with another person.

On a recent episode of the podcast "Sex and Psychology," hosted by the Kinsey Institute sex researcher Justin Lehmiller, Mariëlle de Goede shared findings from her sexual-fantasy research in the Netherlands and Belgium. It involved conducting 400 interviews about people's sexual fantasies between 2018 and 2021.

When de Goede cross-referenced her European findings with previous research of Lehmiller's on Americans' fantasies, she found that most kinks, like submission, domination, and exhibitionism, were a "perfect match" between the regions. But when it came to cuckolding, the kink, which is different than a threesome, didn't come up at all in de Goede's European interviews, she told Lehmiller.

This is likely because the idea of sexually sharing your partner with someone else isn't considered taboo in Europe, but it is in the US. "The forbidden is incredibly arousing to most people," de Goede said.

On the podcast, de Goede and Lehmiller explained how sexual fantasies often come with a cultural subtext that makes them more erotic to the people who are part of that culture. Whatever is considered taboo in a person's particular culture is more likely to turn them on, de Goede said.

When Lehmiller did research for his 2018 book on sexual fantasies, called "Tell Me What You Want," he found that around 45% of men sexually fantasize about watching their female partners with other men.

When it comes to cuckolding, it flies in the face of the male-centered and monogamous American cultural norms, Lehmiller said. So, a man sexually sharing his wife with another man through cuckolding often comes with a negative connotation in the US. For some, that forbidden feeling can be a major turn-on, Lehmiller explained.

In fact, when Lehmiller conducted his own sexual-fantasy research for his book "Tell Me What You Want," he found that politically conservative men cite cuckolding as a sexual fantasy more often than their liberal counterparts, despite these men using "cuck" as a derogatory term for a weak man or sellout.

In the Netherlands and Belgium though, society is thought to be more "egalitarian," with fewer assumed gender roles, de Goede said. Since strict adherence to gender roles is considered taboo there, de Goede found domination and submission fantasies were more popular among her European study participants than Americans.

Additionally, people in the Netherlands and Belgium are more open to non-monogamous relationships like polyamory, where they have multiple sexual or romantic partners at one time, than Americans are, according to de Goede. As a result, they don't typically find the idea of group sex as erotic as an American might.

Outside of taboos, someone could be into cuckolding — or fantasize about it — because they could enjoy BDSM sexual dynamics, Lehmiller said on the podcast. Others may find pleasure in seeing their partner experience pleasure, a phenomenon known as compersion, Lehmiller explained.

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by Anonymousreply 100July 7, 2023 12:07 AM

Because yours is a doggy-dog society and ours isn't. Not to the same extent, at least.

by Anonymousreply 1July 3, 2023 11:20 AM

Dog eat dog?

When did "voyeurism" become "cuckolding"?

by Anonymousreply 2July 3, 2023 12:25 PM

Of course conservative men are more into it, they talk about it constantly. My bet is their favorite fantasy to cuck them is Hunter Biden. They are OBSESSED with him and his huge, beautiful cock.

Hunter could make the $2billion Jared got from the Saudis by charging conservative couples to fuck the wife while the husband sobs, beats his tinymeat, and calls Hunter names.

by Anonymousreply 3July 3, 2023 12:45 PM

R2

I doubt it ever did.

Voyeurism is watching. It’s not being a cuck.

Cuck is being at home thinking about what you can’t see. There are whole forums related to the cuck experience.

by Anonymousreply 4July 3, 2023 12:46 PM

[quote]In fact, when Lehmiller conducted his own sexual-fantasy research for his book "Tell Me What You Want," he found that politically conservative men cite cuckolding as a sexual fantasy more often than their liberal counterparts, despite these men using "cuck" as a derogatory term for a weak man or sellout.

If American 'cuck' porn is aimed at conservative men, it explains the very gay direction it's taking.

by Anonymousreply 5July 3, 2023 12:52 PM

Cuckholding or having lower than low self-esteem ?

by Anonymousreply 6July 3, 2023 1:03 PM

R4 "Cuck is being at home thinking about what you can’t see."

What? No it isn't

by Anonymousreply 7July 3, 2023 1:06 PM

R7

You go to a sex party with your SO and have sex with a variety of people and you watch your SO being fucked you are not being chucked. You are sharing sex partners. It’s a fucking orgy.

You send or agree for your SO to go out and have sex with others and you stay home l you are then a cuck.

So why don’t you explain what I have gotten wrong.

by Anonymousreply 8July 3, 2023 1:11 PM

[quote]cuckolding, where one partner watches while their partner has sex with another person.

I guess the article is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 9July 3, 2023 1:27 PM

Isn't it always a guy loaning out his woman to another man? Rarely a woman sharing her man with another woman?

It's a mostly male fantasy. The woman just agrees if she wants to keep the lifestyle she's become accustomed to (same for swinging). Very exploitive.

It's all fun 'n games til you get an std from a promiscuous stranger.

And if a guy wants another guy in his bedroom, he's bi.

by Anonymousreply 10July 3, 2023 1:38 PM

By the way it's used as an insult it really only applies to a man giving away "his woman" which makes him seem less "powerful".

by Anonymousreply 11July 3, 2023 1:49 PM

Dumbest kink on earth.

It's almost exclusively white conservatives into this, yes?

by Anonymousreply 12July 3, 2023 1:51 PM

The only straight male cucks I've known are into Black men fucking their wives. Never white.

So, I think it's also a race thing in the US.

by Anonymousreply 13July 3, 2023 1:54 PM

[quote]So why don’t you explain what I have gotten wrong.

All of it. You can't just make up your own definition. "Cucking" occurs in front of the other partner. He is present. What you're describing is just cheating or a three way.

It's not voyeurism. The thrill isn't from watching with rapt attention and living vicariously. It's also not an orgy; the other partner isn't participating in actual sex.

The thrill is from the "humiliation" (real or pretend) of "seeing" (even if you aren't actively watching) your "monogamous" (even though you have both consented knowingly to this) spouse or partner get taken by another man.

That's it. That's the kink. It's deeply rooted in patriarchal assumptions about gender, sex and (especially) marriage, namely, that women are the possession of men, and that a man who allows another man to "possess" his woman is a deeply flawed man, perhaps not really a man at all.

All of which is why most gay men and feminist people of any gender find the entire thing ridiculous in the extreme.

by Anonymousreply 14July 3, 2023 1:59 PM

I'm gay, married and a cuck. Several years ago, around the time when marriage equality became a reality, there was an explosion of interest in cuckolding among gay men.

by Anonymousreply 15July 3, 2023 2:03 PM

it's fairly common in Italy as well. That could have something to do with the influence of the Roman Catholic Church in the country.

by Anonymousreply 16July 3, 2023 2:04 PM

R10 a female cuck is referred to as a "cuckquean"

by Anonymousreply 17July 3, 2023 2:06 PM

Are there transcucks?

by Anonymousreply 18July 3, 2023 2:07 PM

R13 yes, exactly and the article doesn't cover that at all.

For a conservative guy, cuckolding has a lot of layers - not only him sharing his wife, but also usually with a black man, a much bigger endowed man at that.

So random MAGA guy (or even just an average straight dude) can examine gay AND interracial fantasies, blow his load, and then go back to demeaning both gay men and black dudes in his daily life.

That's 'Murica for you.....

by Anonymousreply 19July 3, 2023 2:07 PM

No there wasn't, R15. You're full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 20July 3, 2023 2:08 PM

I've also posted this in another thread: all the male cucks I've known who actively engaged in the fetish with their wives were also abusive, usually physically.

by Anonymousreply 21July 3, 2023 2:14 PM

R10

We are talking straight cucks here? Syphilis and HIV is just not a significant issue among straight swingers. And I am not aware GC is either.

And there is such a thing as condoms. So I’d think the risk of an STD is quite low for the straights doing this, .

by Anonymousreply 22July 3, 2023 2:16 PM

So R21, basically they were pimping their wives out for their own sexual gratification.

Are the wives even into it? Ever? There's got to be a fair amount of coercion in most cases, and even greater force or threats too in many cases. I find it very hard to picture conservative white women approaching their husbands with this idea to spice things up in the bedroom. Far from it.

by Anonymousreply 23July 3, 2023 2:22 PM

R22 it's hilarious that you think the conservative straight men engaging in this would willingly wear condoms to protect a partner. GTFOOH.

by Anonymousreply 24July 3, 2023 2:23 PM

This is why they hate us…I mean, this is why we hate them!

by Anonymousreply 25July 3, 2023 2:26 PM

[quote]I'm gay, married and a cuck.

You're married to a woman? The while cuck thing is about being less of a man because some other dude is fucking your female "property".

by Anonymousreply 26July 3, 2023 2:27 PM

The gay version is hot!

by Anonymousreply 27July 3, 2023 2:30 PM

R22

Actually with the much lower Syphilis and hiv among those straights that engage in swinging a condom is not quite as important like it would be when they are having sex with someone that is at a much higher risk of STDs.

Never heard of a syphilis or hiv outbreak among swingers. And these straight cucks are certainly a part of that swinger community.

Condoms are not used that much among swingers. They can afford that luxury.

by Anonymousreply 28July 3, 2023 2:30 PM

There are a lot of “hot wives” on Twitter cucking their husbands. Seems to be a lot of overlap between MAGA ‘str8’ men into all types of “women” (hint hint) and also being into cuckoldry. There are subreddits for straight, bi, and gay cuckolds.

by Anonymousreply 29July 3, 2023 2:32 PM

Did someone mention Manafort?

by Anonymousreply 30July 3, 2023 2:34 PM

R23

Find a straight cuck or hotwives forum and read the posts and stories and requests. Many if not most are written by woman.

So this seems to be an activity where both the man and woman are getting a sexual thrill or adventure that they both want.

Kink shaming are we?

by Anonymousreply 31July 3, 2023 2:37 PM

R30

Jared is that you?

by Anonymousreply 32July 3, 2023 2:38 PM

r31 most women are not into it. Not really. I think usually drugs, coercion, and/or abuse are involved. Sometimes -- maybe often -- a combination of the three.

by Anonymousreply 33July 3, 2023 2:42 PM

R26 no, i'm married to a man

by Anonymousreply 34July 3, 2023 2:46 PM

[quote]It’s officially been a week since I let my wife do a porn with another guy. I felt a little jealous at first but overall it wasn’t that big a deal. She’s watched me sleep with hundreds of girls and it’s never affected our relationship. Sleeping with that gentleman has been amazing for both her career and our business @plugtalkshow ! Overall I’m glad we did it and I’m happy to report her vagina has returned to its original pre-BBC size.

[quote]Kinda weird how calling me a cuck is supposed to offend me. I saw the video of my wife getting plowed and I thought it was pretty hot! If that makes me a cuck, so be it!

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by Anonymousreply 35July 3, 2023 2:48 PM

R35 so what that guy is engaging in is called hotwifing and it makes him a "stag" not a cuck. In order to be cuckolding it has to have some element of humiliation or emotional BDSM.

by Anonymousreply 36July 3, 2023 2:52 PM

Good grief nothing like over ANALyzing words

by Anonymousreply 37July 3, 2023 2:54 PM

R33

Of course most woman are not into it. Just as most men are not into being butt fucked and most gay men are not into fisting or heavy BDSM.

Straight and gays and bi s can be kinky and can really enjoy kink. Without being forced.

Only on DL does this seem to be a surprise to many.

by Anonymousreply 38July 3, 2023 2:56 PM

It's not surprising. Men fantasize about what they claim to be against. Straight conservative men fantasize about the perceived utter emasculation that is cuckolding, and straight liberal men fantasize about S&M and Dominance.

by Anonymousreply 39July 3, 2023 3:01 PM

Yes, r36 I meant to add that to my post. Not every guy who enjoys seeing his wife/gf with another man is a cuck.

by Anonymousreply 40July 3, 2023 3:02 PM

R39

Speaking from personal experience or are you a professional with data to support your statements?

by Anonymousreply 41July 3, 2023 3:04 PM

Well they're both Onlyfans whores, of course they don't care what they're called.

by Anonymousreply 42July 3, 2023 3:04 PM

R41 the same exact article that is being discussed found liberal men have a higher tendency for s&m and power fantasies, I am just speculating the same way people are speccing about the cuck/conservative man thing.

by Anonymousreply 43July 3, 2023 3:06 PM

R43

Sex is sex and kink is kink and I think when all is said and done we will find that how you vote has not much at all to do with your kink.

And I think any statement that says ….most gay men…most liberal men…most straight men….most conservative men…..that is usually BS or someone’s opinion….

There may be serious studies out there done by serious people about political leaning and sex or kink. The kind of thing NIH would be good at.

What we have on DL on this topic are mostly personal opinions backed by little first hand experience.

by Anonymousreply 44July 3, 2023 3:24 PM

Tumblr used to have great gay cuckold porn. Twitter now has some good content

by Anonymousreply 45July 3, 2023 3:33 PM

R45 Any particular favorites?

by Anonymousreply 46July 3, 2023 3:35 PM

R44, I dont actually disagree, I dont think political leanings matter all that much. There are men that secretly get hard due to taboo submissive behavior and those that get hard by taboo dominant behavior. My point is, if we are going to speculate about being conservative and cucking we could do the same on being liberal and being into dominance/rough sex. Ultimately I think political leanings might show a slight tendency but not much more than that.

by Anonymousreply 47July 3, 2023 3:52 PM

I don't know the answer, but I know DL, so I assume it has something to do with fat American fraus and fancy sophisticated French people.

by Anonymousreply 48July 3, 2023 4:08 PM

Cuckolding sound like swinging gone wrong

by Anonymousreply 49July 3, 2023 4:14 PM

R49 I have most often heard it described as one-sided monogamy. It is almost always done with a lot of intention. Not an accidental swinger mishap

by Anonymousreply 50July 3, 2023 4:19 PM

R50 Either way, it sounds like it sucks

by Anonymousreply 51July 3, 2023 4:21 PM

I had a BF where the whole cuckolding scene would have worked for us.....he had fantasies of watching me take another guy's cock.

It was hard to find gay men into that scene, though.

by Anonymousreply 52July 3, 2023 4:23 PM

"Did anyone mention Manafort?"

No, but lets not forget Roger Stone.

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by Anonymousreply 53July 3, 2023 4:31 PM

[quote]Kink shaming are we?

No, not at all. I'm questioning if the women are truly consenting of their own free will because several elements -- the noted conservatism of the male enthusiasts, the patriarchal framework of "possessing" a woman and, despite your alleged sleuthing revealing otherswise, the exclusively male appeal of this fetish.

So I'm not "kink-shaming," I'm questioning. I'm asking questions. I'm questioning how consensual this activity is in practice.

Do you have a problem with that? Do you regularly attempt to shame people against asking questions about consent and framing such questions as "kink-shaming" when in reality you're gaslighting people into accepting rapey behavior as normal?

Gaslighting are we? So typical of conservative males.

by Anonymousreply 54July 3, 2023 5:11 PM

[quote]I have most often heard it described as one-sided monogamy.

Why do you hear it described so often? GQP?

by Anonymousreply 55July 3, 2023 5:12 PM

Cuckolding sounds hot. I love watching my boyfriend get fucked.

by Anonymousreply 56July 3, 2023 5:23 PM

R49

She goes out , he stays home, she fucks someone, she comes home with stories, then they fuck each other really hot thinking about what she did.

How is that anything gone wrong?

It’s not vanilla, it’s not for most, but it’s hardly something gone wrong. Gay or straight couple.

R54

It sounded like kink shaming. Next time use more,of these ??? then I will know it’s a question not a knock..

Find a straight hotwives or cuck forum and do some reading.

The woman you read there will not sound like woman who have been forced or are doing anything against their free choice. Just the opposite.

I read what sounded like really sexually charged woman that were really joying this type of kinky sex. A lot.

Is it usually the man with the straight couple who suggest things like this for the first time? Mostly.

Is it usually a man with the gay couple who suggests things like this for the first time? Mostly

by Anonymousreply 57July 3, 2023 5:30 PM

R57 How does that NOT sound like something gone wrong?

by Anonymousreply 58July 3, 2023 5:57 PM

R57 is a frau..

by Anonymousreply 59July 3, 2023 6:02 PM

Sorry, I meant R58! Frau.

by Anonymousreply 60July 3, 2023 6:03 PM

R59 is an idiot. Sorry, Sorry, I meant R60! Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 61July 3, 2023 6:12 PM

R58

If it’s not for you then don’t do it.

If you have a problem with others doing it then I’d suggest minding your own business.

One on one just you and I babe for the rest of eternity. That is not for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 62July 3, 2023 6:13 PM

R62 I won't do it. I do mind my own business.

I'm just commenting how ridiculous this whole thing is on a forum that is made for commenting. How crazy of me, right?

by Anonymousreply 63July 3, 2023 6:16 PM

[quote] commenting how ridiculous this whole thing is

Ridiculous to you

by Anonymousreply 64July 3, 2023 6:26 PM

R55 fairly often, i'm a cuckold and involved in the online community

by Anonymousreply 65July 3, 2023 6:26 PM

i heard a podcast the other day between a gay cuckold and a straight woman in the scene.

by Anonymousreply 66July 3, 2023 6:26 PM

R63

No you are correct.

If you have a problem with a couple , gay or straight , having an exciting for them sex life , and you don’t approve of what they are doing, it’s your right to complain. And judge mental.

I won’t say an obligation but you certainly have a right to be judgmental about the sexual lives of others.

I think couples m especially long term couples, benefit by some kink in their life. But for you , that may be a vanilla bridge too far,

Comment away

by Anonymousreply 67July 3, 2023 6:27 PM

R64 Well, duh. I speak for myself. Who else?

by Anonymousreply 68July 3, 2023 6:27 PM

R67 Thank you for your approval.

by Anonymousreply 69July 3, 2023 6:28 PM

R57 is a complete fucking moron and this entire thread is a hot mess.

Going out and hooking up then sharing the titillating details with your main partner is not "cucking," it's an open relationship. Only a frau would find that "kinky." Gay men have been doing that forever and it's a relationship model, not a kink. You'd have to be a very clueless straight frau not to grasp this.

Cucking is described at R14. It's a very specific arrangement with 3 people present but only 2 connect sexually.

by Anonymousreply 70July 3, 2023 6:28 PM

R70 there are many different ways of playing with the cuckold fantasy, including role-playing and certainly some of it can be where the cuck is not present, but told about it afterward. especially if the partner uses the experience to erotically humiliate the husband. Cuckolding, and the power dynamics behind it are more than just the sexual act.

by Anonymousreply 71July 3, 2023 6:54 PM

Some of the ideas here about this fetish are antiquated.

The husband is often present and besides the weird racial element mentioned upthread, there's a subset of husbands whose degradation kink extends to sexual contact with their wives' male partners. As in (briefly) blowing them or performing another act the average straight man would want nothing to do with.

by Anonymousreply 72July 3, 2023 7:22 PM

The definition and the identity has definitely changed over the years, and if something most people of this thread would not recognize. The original definition was any man whose wife was cheating on him, and he was unaware. Now it's a full-fledged porn genre and sub community of BDSM.

by Anonymousreply 73July 3, 2023 7:28 PM

Get over the defining / redefining. Go have sex, for god’s sake.

by Anonymousreply 74July 3, 2023 7:30 PM

I love this lifestyle. I tend to have the best chemistry with guys who are a little slutty, and that's fine with me. I like to watch my guy have great sex. I like to have great sex with him/them as well. Why force him into a box not of his choosing? Why force him to change who he is?

Many people believe monogamy is unnatural, or forced on us for religious or cultural reasons. Why do we pressure ourselves to stick with one partner? What is gained by sexual monogamy that would be lost by sexual openness?

If you love someone, and you are secure in your love, then you won't feel threatened when he fucks someone else.

by Anonymousreply 75July 4, 2023 1:07 AM

Its totally more popular in the US than it has ever been before...In my honest opinion 1 in 3 straight guys are down for it. A lot of straight porn now features wife/girlfriend sharing, and guys are totally comfortable watching their woman with other man, especially if he's black. There's a lot of objectification involved, of course. Guys get off on their woman being a slut etc.

But the real gag is, there are growing numbers of women who also want to watch their man get fucked by another man. People think these women are victims or something. They totally know their man is bisexual and they like it.

by Anonymousreply 76July 4, 2023 2:06 AM

R76 "totally more popular"

You write like a 12 yr old

by Anonymousreply 77July 4, 2023 2:08 AM

R76 totally

by Anonymousreply 78July 4, 2023 2:08 AM

I still think consent is a big issue in a lot of these "cucking" arrangements.

Look at Paul Manafort. His wife had suffered brain damage, no? There was a text exchange between their daughters that read in part, "Do you think we should get Mom tested for STDs?"

There is also the lesser-known case of Melinda Loveless's parents (Melinda Loveless was one of Shanda Sharer's killers):

[quote]The Loveless parents would often visit bars in Louisville where Larry would pretend to be a doctor or a dentist and introduce Marjorie as his girlfriend. He would also "share" her with some of his friends from work, which she found disgusting. During an orgy with another couple at their house, Marjorie tried to commit suicide, an act she would repeat several times throughout her daughters' childhoods. When Melinda was nine years old, Larry had Marjorie gang raped, after which she tried to drown herself. After that incident, she refused him sex for a month, until he raped her as their daughters overheard the event through a closed door. In the summer of 1986, after she would not let him go home with two women he met at a bar, Larry beat Marjorie so severely that she was hospitalized; he was convicted of battery.

I think these two cases -- exhibiting lack of consent and physical abuse -- are the rule rather than the exception in the cucking world. And it has fuck all to do with "kink shaming."

by Anonymousreply 79July 4, 2023 3:05 AM

R79 That's your problem. YOU THINK these horrific examples of felony spousal abuse are the norm in cuckolding relationships. Other than clippings you've found about extreme examples, you seem to have scant evidence to support your assertion, yet you make it anyway.

You would've fit right in with the Satanic Panic morons in the 80s. You saw it on 60 Minutes, so it's definitely happening in every school in America right now!

Dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 80July 4, 2023 3:16 AM

r80 I posted upthread, but will repeat here: the male cucks I've known IN REAL LIFE who actively engaged in the fetish with their wives were also abusive, usually physically.

by Anonymousreply 81July 4, 2023 3:19 AM

It's crazy how many DLers know right wing wackos in real life and can speak at length about their lives, preferences, and opinions. Deep, intimate knowledge of the inner workings of complete right wing wackos that they know in real life, offered up unprompted, like it's normal to have friends life these.

It's almost like we have a lot of right wing wackos just... posting here, just talking about their right wing wacko lives and the right wing wacko stuff their friends and them like to get up to.

Crazy.

by Anonymousreply 82July 4, 2023 3:26 AM

r82 I did a lot of drugs in my 20s. And when you do a lot of drugs, you tend to meet a lot of fucked up people.

by Anonymousreply 83July 4, 2023 3:28 AM

It’s really no different than swinging, which was even trendy in the 70s. Many of these husbands will also suck out the other guy’s cum for their wives. They enjoy being degraded and even give their wives a pass to choose a guy to fuck. The women are totally into it. Heterosexuals are weird.

by Anonymousreply 84July 4, 2023 3:33 AM

R79 again, what you have described is not cuckolding. You may think it's just semantics, but there's a distinct difference. What Manafort did was pimp out his wife in a sadistic way, and he got a pleasure from it as the "Master". that is wife sharing or some thing akin. Cuckolding is a different power dynamic and the cuck is actually submissive to the wife or partner. It is usually connected closely with femdom and male submission. Jerry Falwell is a much better example of a cuckold, and we know that his wife was the sexual aggressor in their set up.

by Anonymousreply 85July 4, 2023 3:54 AM

r82 I think the point some of us are trying to make is that the trend has expanded beyond tightly wound old conservative guys? a lot of young couples are into it

by Anonymousreply 86July 4, 2023 12:53 PM

It's disingenuous to pretend the only reason someone would be exposed to the inner lives of wackos is via friendship. Plenty of lunatics, assholes and weirdos roam the earth and they all have families, former classmates or coworkers, current and former neighbors, etc.

by Anonymousreply 87July 4, 2023 1:08 PM

Most of the explanations of cuckoldery in this thread are dead wrong. Male cuckolds --that is [italic]traditional[/italic] cuckolds-- never have direct sexual access to their female partners. Their female partners always sleep with every other male except them and then tell them about it.

They then go and masturbate in solitude to the description of their female partner's sexual escapades with other males. But they don't touch their female partner. They aren't allowed to because "they're inferior to her and don't deserve to fuck her." There may or may not also be some elements of small penis humiliation involved, as well.

by Anonymousreply 88July 4, 2023 1:08 PM

r88 way too narrowly defined

by Anonymousreply 89July 4, 2023 1:10 PM

r89 Well, even more traditionally, the term itself refers to a male who unknowingly raises another male's offspring. It came from cuckoo birds who lay their eggs in the nests of other birds. That said, the purest cuck outside of the kink realm is a man who goes his entire life unknowingly raising another man's kid(s) or being married to an unfaithful wife.

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by Anonymousreply 90July 4, 2023 1:19 PM

What hell is the difference between cuckolding and swinging? American heterosexuals are very attached to strict monogamy for whatever reason.

by Anonymousreply 91July 4, 2023 1:20 PM

r91 swinging usually involves two couples fooling around with each other, cuckolding is more defined as another man coming in to have sex with with the wife/girlfriend with the husband/boyfriend supporting it

I think porn & onlyfans and bromance culture has made it more popular. The male porn stars share girls and often collab with each other. Guys are more comfortable watching other guys have sex

by Anonymousreply 92July 4, 2023 1:34 PM

Great post r54

by Anonymousreply 93July 4, 2023 1:39 PM

R92

Self described you mean

Swinging can and often is 3-4-8-200+ people.

There can be small swinger get togethers, summer camp ( trailers and tents) get togethers which I assume is 100s of people , Large convention type of get togethers.

Or can be a weekend party with many dozens. It’s all seen as swinging the only thing that changes is the venue and the numbers.

by Anonymousreply 94July 4, 2023 4:17 PM

It's so disappointing to study gay history and learn about all the brick-throwing, Reagan-bashing, freaky-as-fuck gays who fought to be free.

And then to actually interact with eldergays, and find out they're all just a bunch of fucking judgmental prudes.

I guess all the interesting gays died out, or they have richer lives and don't have to spend their nights and weekends shit-posting on this janky site.

by Anonymousreply 95July 4, 2023 4:48 PM

R95

Yes the fun guys from the mineshaft and the FFA, the interesting ones, are all dead.

Poor you

by Anonymousreply 96July 4, 2023 4:52 PM

R96 The Future Farmers of America?

I LOVE those kinky fucks!

by Anonymousreply 97July 4, 2023 5:13 PM

I can't help but think there is some projection among the men who believe that women are really into cucking.

by Anonymousreply 98July 5, 2023 4:00 AM

Aren't paraphilias much more common in males?

by Anonymousreply 99July 6, 2023 2:15 PM

r95 I don't think it so much judgmental...its just that most people on his site are old and their views are dated. Like posters here suggesting women don't enjoy these type of arrangements. While most women don't, a growing number of them do. Modern women are more sexually free; American culture and social norms today allow women to express what they want and don't want in the bed. Female rappers have made entire careers out of it. If they can't find everything they need in one partner, they will use another man.

by Anonymousreply 100July 7, 2023 12:07 AM
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