Another disaster for Disney.
Hollywood continues to strangle itself as middle-aged, creatively bankrupt people prop each other up with over-valued, multi-million dollar deals and hold the gate while young people struggle in thankless roles and fresh ideas get squeezed out of the marketplace in the name of recycling powdered formula.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 20, 2023 9:02 PM |
Disney isn't family-friendly any more, and paying this homosexual millions to warp the minds of Americans is proof!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 20, 2023 9:02 PM |
That tired old queen is now working for Disney?
R1 Agreed. Fuck gatekeeping.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 20, 2023 9:08 PM |
This was more or less expected, with Murphy’s Netflix deal done at the height of peak streaming hubris. Murphy delivered a ton of content for Netflix, which is technically what they asked for. However, in the intervening years it became apparent that quantity alone would never deliver eyeballs and that a single buzzed show like Bridgerton or Wednesday were worth twenty Murphy shows. Additionally, Murphy executed some of his weakest material like “Hollywood” and “The Prom” while some of the more inspired pitches like a miniseries adaptation of “A Chorus Line” or a Jessica Lange Marlene Dietrich biopic never came to fruition.
The problem going forward for Murphy is that contraction is guaranteed industry-wide and not even Disney will want “Ryan Murphy Inc.” filler. He is going to have to do one thing well rather than a dozen things adequately. The expected acquisition of all of Hulu and integration into Disney Plus may challenge his current oeuvre of haute grindhouse garbage.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 20, 2023 9:23 PM |
Gay kids everywhere are looking forward to "Feud: Scar and Mufasa."
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 20, 2023 9:26 PM |
[quote] while some of the more inspired pitches like a miniseries adaptation of “A Chorus Line” or a Jessica Lange Marlene Dietrich biopic never came to fruition.
The Marlene Dietrich biopic is still in production. Expect an Emmy win for Jessica Lange soon.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 20, 2023 9:27 PM |
Ryan Murphy's style won't fit Disney at all. Another reason to stop watching his content especially after he cast Kim Kardashian.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 20, 2023 9:28 PM |
They should put Ryan Murphy, Tim Burton, and John Waters in a room together and develop some compelling UNIVERSAL, “feel good” and GENUINELY FUNNY storylines, with colorful characters that don’t especially emphasize sexuality or gender.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 20, 2023 9:34 PM |
R7, Disney bought 21th Century Fox and now owns FX and Fox Television. Murphy is coming back home to Fox/FX under his own boss Dana Walden.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 20, 2023 9:40 PM |
The Dietrich thing isn’t getting made, Jesus there hasn’t been an update in over a year.
Anything not in pre-production at Netflix now (I believe only the Menendez series and The Watcher 2 are) will never get made at Netflix. Could he take it to Disney? Possibly but it’s not their brand. Murphy’s mistake was that Netflix gave him the opportunity to do very esoteric and bespoke projects and he chose to remake “Glee” with Meryl Streep. He’s not going to get the opportunity at Disney, Disney will be about the bottom line especially as it tries integrate and shutter legacy assets.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 20, 2023 9:40 PM |
Murphy isn't in charge of Horror Stories, Brad Falchuk took over primary control after the first season.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 20, 2023 9:41 PM |
Disney owns 20th Television, which is the combined tv production assets of the old ABC Studios and 20th Century-Fox Television. Disney does not own the Fox network. The problem for Murphy is that by divesting from Fox, there’s no longer an on-brand outlet for Murphy. Murphy worked well with the Fox TV brand, but ABC will want different things.
Disney still owns FX, but FX has also shifted to smaller shows like “The Bear”. As budgets get tighter and tighter, who knows if Disney will want to shell out the money for ten episodes of hourlong derivative horror garbage like the AHS’s.
It may behoove Murphy to maybe find some younger collaborators and try to experiment with new things like a half-hour dramedy rather than to dip into his box of eldergay fascinations or try to find a new Kardashian to exploit.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 20, 2023 9:50 PM |
[quote]under his own boss Dana Walden.
*under his old boss
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 20, 2023 9:50 PM |
Did Ryan ask Miss Lange's permission?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 20, 2023 9:55 PM |
'American Horror Story: Butt Pirates of the Caribbean'
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 20, 2023 9:55 PM |
We are feeling, um…GLEE!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 20, 2023 9:58 PM |
Keep cashing those checks, Ryan! Unlike Datalounge I’m happy to see and out and proud gay succeed, especially for so long in an industry like showbiz.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 20, 2023 10:05 PM |
Wonder if the deal could include Ryan doing something for Disney in theater. Ryan wants to do Broadway, but does he know how?
Not that it would stop him if he didn't.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 20, 2023 10:11 PM |
Lesbian Twitter is telling Sarah Paulson to stay far away from Ryan Murphy and stick to acting in films with Cate Blanchett.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 20, 2023 10:22 PM |
I was interested in his take on the Menendez brothers in his true crime series. I can't see a subject like that being shown on Disney, but if it is, I guess I'll miss it. There's only so many streaming services I want to pay for.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 20, 2023 10:28 PM |
This is great news. I have Disney POZ and I’ve been meaning to watch that Andrew Cunanan show.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 20, 2023 10:50 PM |
R5 which role will Darren Criss play?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 21, 2023 6:20 AM |
His face could sour milk. The unpleasant look he wears makes me think he spends his every waking minute plotting heavy-handed revenge against anyone who looked at him wrong, or maybe wrong, or maybe because they didn't look at him.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 21, 2023 6:51 AM |
Andy Warhol Diaries was amazing. For this show alone, he has my thanks. No one ever looked at Andy as a gay sexual man and I found it fascinating. Plus Feud!
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 21, 2023 10:38 AM |
I like Murphy's Hollywood. But I have to agree that Murphy with Disney+ is a very odd pairing. It reminds me of a recent The Other Two episode where Disney+ is so proud of including their first unapologetically gay character, a green glob being seen with another green glob (if he were straight, he'd be in bed with a female human!) *lol*
I wonder if Murphy promised them a new Glee? Is High School Musical: The Musical: The Series not working for them?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 21, 2023 1:21 PM |
[quote]But I have to agree that Murphy with Disney+ is a very odd pairing.
Not really. While still at FOX, Murphy created/produced the successful procedural 9-1-1 which ran for six seasons. After they just cancelled it, the show is transferring to ABC. With Murphy going to Disney, the 9-1-1 move looks like part of his own move back to what used to be 20th Century-Fox TV under Dana Walden.
[quote]9-1-1 was developed and picked up to series under a different economic model when the Fox network and then-20th Century Fox TV were part of the same company, before Disney acquired key Fox assets, including the TV studio.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 21, 2023 10:40 PM |
Ryan Murphy is the Madonna of TV producers. Both of them are minimally talented, overrated, serial plagiarists who just randomly use shocking or controversial imagery just to appear edgy without any message or meaning.
And of course the sycophants will bow down and declare them "geniuses" who "create" "art."
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 21, 2023 11:55 PM |
[quote] Not really. While still at FOX, Murphy created/produced the successful procedural 9-1-1 which ran for six seasons. After they just cancelled it, the show is transferring to ABC.
Disney owns 20th Century now which produces 9-1-1, and Disney decided it would not renew the contract with FOX and put the show on its own property, ABC, instead. I am sure the same thing will be done with the spin-off 9-1-1: Lone Star when the contract between 20th Century and FOX runs out and the show is still popular.
Disney will not give Murphy "carte blanche". He has to know that something like Pose will not be made while he's tied to Disney, and he will not be able to commit to any passion projects that are off brand for Disney and once Murphy realizes that he will be pissed off and even more detached from his Disney projects than before.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 22, 2023 9:14 AM |
Actually Fox Network decided not to renew 911 given increased costs and declining advertising revenue due to linear viewing collapse. Disney moved it to ABC, most likely at a loss, probably because an increased episode count helps toward international syndication or some other show business reason.
The problem for Murphy is not so much Disney (because Disney does not have to air his projects exclusively, it can sell them to other venues) as much as it is his own brand death due to his unsuccessful attempts at Netflix. He is well aware of his problem given that “Halston” appeared to actually reference this.
The TV business has simply collapsed under its own weight and if you cannot create a hit, you are expendable. Look what happened to JJ Abrams. He cannot get anything greenlit anymore. Westworld most likely killed his brand with its obscene costs and quick collapse.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 22, 2023 9:46 AM |
That being said, no one’s brand death was worse than Tim Burton and then he made “Wednesday.” And the only reason “Wednesday”, which is not actually a very good show, works is because of Jenna Ortega, I think maybe 17 or 18 when cast. And now he’s making Beetlejuice 2 with her. This is what aged-out legacy creators do - find and elevate new young talent to reinvent themselves.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 22, 2023 9:55 AM |
And Wednesday is Netflix’s biggest English language show. Not because of Tim Burton. But because Jenna Ortega understood how to make the character relevant.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 22, 2023 10:02 AM |
[Quote] Look what happened to JJ Abrams. He cannot get anything greenlit anymore. Westworld most likely killed his brand with its obscene costs and quick collapse.
I don't see that as a bad thing after what happened with Star Wars.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 22, 2023 11:06 AM |
Jesus Christ, could Jay Jay Abrams’s eyes BE closer together? Is he a cyclops? I wish I could have his problem.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 22, 2023 7:49 PM |
Shyclopsh.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 22, 2023 9:45 PM |