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The Way Down: God, Greed, and the Cult of Gwen Shamblin

Has anyone seen this docuseries on HBO Max?

It was pretty good. Exposes "a church" that uses fear to keep people in.

Spoiler: she died on her way to a Trump rally in Florida.

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by Anonymousreply 38June 26, 2025 2:34 PM

Weigh Down Workshop

by Anonymousreply 1June 19, 2023 10:38 PM

No one?

by Anonymousreply 2June 19, 2023 11:01 PM

Is there more than one docs on this story?

by Anonymousreply 3June 19, 2023 11:54 PM

[quote] Spoiler: she died on her way to a Trump rally in Florida.

Thank you, Jesus. They say you work in mysterious ways. Although, perhaps sometimes you don't.

by Anonymousreply 4June 20, 2023 12:24 AM

R3 what do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 5June 20, 2023 12:42 AM

R4 I don't wish death on anyone, but of all things.

by Anonymousreply 6June 20, 2023 12:46 AM

R5 - I think I did watch this, but I was wondering if there was another doc based on the same story (I believe it’s also going to be a scripted mini-series also).

So many of these stories I’ve watched in more than one incarnation.

by Anonymousreply 7June 20, 2023 1:09 AM

R7 I'm not sure. The HBO one was the first I've heard of it.

by Anonymousreply 8June 20, 2023 1:38 AM

There’s also a tv movie with Jennifer Greta’s Gwen.

by Anonymousreply 9June 20, 2023 2:13 AM

R6 But, I didn't wish death upon Gwen. I didn't even know who she was before she died and I saw the whole sordid story on The Way Down..

by Anonymousreply 10June 20, 2023 6:50 AM

How could anyone think she was sane with the way she looked? Good doc that could have been one episode shorter, like so many docs today. But a crazy story too

by Anonymousreply 11June 20, 2023 10:08 AM

R11 I agree it was an episode too long.

by Anonymousreply 12June 21, 2023 4:04 AM

Any good weight loss tips from this doc?

by Anonymousreply 13June 21, 2023 6:02 AM

R13 Pray

by Anonymousreply 14June 25, 2023 8:42 PM

You are fat OP and Jesus thinks so too.

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by Anonymousreply 15June 25, 2023 8:51 PM

R15 lol no I'm not

by Anonymousreply 16June 25, 2023 9:00 PM

All religions use fear to keep people in the congregation. Fear is necessary to instill in order to achieve compliance, submission, and subservience.

by Anonymousreply 17June 25, 2023 9:05 PM

R17 the Presbyterian's team love right?

by Anonymousreply 18June 25, 2023 9:05 PM

Those are some flattering (and old) pictures of Gwen Shamblin! This is what she looked in recent years. Her second husband Joe Lara, who was flying their plane to both of their dooms, was a one-time actor who once played Tarzan in a TV movie and a mid- '90's TV show. She dumped her first husband (despite the fact that the "religion" she founded was against divorce) to marry him. The fake religion she founded (based on her weight loss system) made her very wealthy but I'm sure Joe Lara married her for love.

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by Anonymousreply 19June 25, 2023 9:18 PM

R19 Joe was a notorious gigolo and escort

by Anonymousreply 20June 25, 2023 9:29 PM

Watch the vid at R19 and go to 1:36 to see a terrifying looking anorexic woman starving to death. Anorexia was next to godliness in this religion, since Gwen used the Holocaust as an example of a successful weight-loss program. How many girls became anorexic following her? Terrifying what you see in certain brief moments of that video.

by Anonymousreply 21June 26, 2023 7:18 AM

This just hit me: her whole life was preaching about how being fat meant you were a sinner, but she died en route to a Trump rally

LOLOLOLOLOL

by Anonymousreply 22August 2, 2023 5:46 PM

This is Gwen's daughter Elizabeth who married Ryan Kaufmann and is still running Remnant. I saw this photo and thought it was Little Edie. I also thought she was wearing a scarf, but that's her starving hair... Holy shit...

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by Anonymousreply 23June 26, 2025 1:29 AM

So Jesus wants you to be a skeleton, and Gwen finally achieved that. Blessed be.

by Anonymousreply 24June 26, 2025 1:45 AM

[quote] Spoiler: she died on her way to a Trump rally in Florida.

Sometimes, the trash takes itself out.

by Anonymousreply 25June 26, 2025 1:50 AM

Ariana Grande is starting to look like the daughter.

by Anonymousreply 26June 26, 2025 2:33 AM

This video is not private.

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by Anonymousreply 27June 26, 2025 2:50 AM

I didn't know they were on the way to a Trump rally. As always, @#ETTD. Didn't to take days and days for divers to find and recover the bodies from the swampy lake?

by Anonymousreply 28June 26, 2025 2:51 AM

[quote]Didn't to take days and days for divers to find and recover the bodies from the swampy lake?

The crash site was just off the shore and was very shallow. The plane went deep into the mud.

by Anonymousreply 29June 26, 2025 2:53 AM

That hair cracks me up. It was awful.

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by Anonymousreply 30June 26, 2025 3:08 AM

[quote]That hair cracks me up. It was awful.

You should see it now.

by Anonymousreply 31June 26, 2025 12:16 PM

"You can be free from the heartless slavedriver called food!"

(No props for racial sensitivity, at least).

by Anonymousreply 32June 26, 2025 12:41 PM

Yes, Jesus DOES know if you are "sneaking" around and "having a secret rendezvous with that fudge."

by Anonymousreply 33June 26, 2025 12:43 PM

"Having a secret rendezvous with THE fudge."

(She is Comedic Gold).

by Anonymousreply 34June 26, 2025 1:45 PM

We had some legendary and hysterical threads on the crash, the people, the hair and the documentary.

Good times!

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by Anonymousreply 35June 26, 2025 1:52 PM

Four years after the plane crash, Gwen has finally hit her goal weight! 🙌

by Anonymousreply 36June 26, 2025 2:03 PM

Here's Gwen's fat son, who's changed his last name to Black. He has no realationship with his sister Elizabeth or the church. Even overweight (or DL big-boned), I'd say he's a lot healthier than her...

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by Anonymousreply 37June 26, 2025 2:25 PM

That daughter is just TERRIFYING. The son referenced above linked to recordings of her admonishing church members. She is as scary as her mother.

Those folks were decimated in that crash. They barely has enough of Joe to do basic tests that they do on pilots for alcohol ect.

THE WAY DOWN must have been terrifying.

Truly creepy, scary folks-- and one scary AF church.

by Anonymousreply 38June 26, 2025 2:34 PM
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