Dear Dame Glenda Jackson has died at 87

Two simultaneous threads with no posts yet. I'm going with this one because it's respectful and has a link. RIP Dame Glenda!

She was everywhere in the 70's. Huge. What a speaking voice, and her politics make it seem like she was a good person.

She really should have got a third Oscar for this:

Wow! I wonder what the brief illness was?

I’m glad she had a third act winning a Tony.

She wasn't a Dame, OP. (Surprisingly.) She was awarded a CBE in 1978, though.

Saw her on stage in London in 1985, Jean Racine's Phèdre. Astonishing performance. There's a scene where she's informed of her father's death and her back was to the audience, wearing a backless gown, and you could SEE the grief... she was acting with her vertebrae!

R6 amazing!

R3 she deserved an Oscar for "Elizabeth Is Missing" if it wasn't for TV. Wonderful performance

She had a hot ass but she couldn’t live forever.

The other thread is more accurate.,This thread says she was a Dame when, in fact, she wasn’t. The other thread said she was a cunt when, in fact, she was.

We don’t care OP. Go the fuck away with your miserable incessant Brit postings already, you tiresome cunt.

Got to meet her twice when she was working on Broadway. She was a lovely lady.

R10 no, you go and fuck off you xenophobic piece of filth. We will post and talk about whatever we want here and no be dictated to by the likes of you. If you can't handle that then you know where the "Sign Out" button is. I doubt any of us will miss you.

Yes she was phenomenal and heartbreaking in Elizabeth Is Missing.

I also want to do a shout out to House Calls, a really delightful '70s movie she did with Walter Matthau

Love her. Sad news. Rest in Peace.

HO-GARTH!

She seemed like the last person who would accept a Damehood.

Her hatred of Margaret Thatcher made me love her even more!

R4, My guess would be leukemia. I’ve had two cousins die of it less than a month after being diagnosed.

Shocking scene in Music Lovers where Glenda sits on a grate and hands from below finger her.

Glenda.

FABULOUS!

[quote][R10] no, you go and fuck off you xenophobic piece of filth.

Alert r12, r10 is a "we" troll - [bold]never respond to a "we" troll [/bold]and your days here will be much happier.

R.I.P. she was quite an accomplished woman.

I'm shocked at some of the comments on this and other thread(s).

I expect a divisive set of comments when, say, Vanessa Redgrave goes but hadn't thought Glenda would be all that controversial......?

Ellen Burstyn and Maggie Smith had an out of wedlock bitch baby

Press THAT in your book of memories!

Yes R3! Absolutely Oscar worthy performance!

Her demolition of that cunt Thatcher's myth was epic. Truth to power. RIP Glenda R.

And most of what she said could just as easily be applied to Reagan's destructive time in office.

Glenda winning her second Oscar for “A Touch of Class” was a surprise upset.

Look at the expression on Joanne Woodward’s face when Glenda’s name is announced .

R28, Eat me!

very good 1973 DL fave Mavis Nicholson interview just posted on YouTube.

As a young gayling use to rush to the tellie to watch her as Elizabeth R with my Brit mum. Apologies to Blanchette but Jackson will always be Gloriana to me.

I was unaware that Mavis was a DL fave, R31, though she would certainly derseve to be. She died the same day as Queen Elizabeth.

[quote]I was unaware that Mavis was a DL fave, [R31], though she would certainly derseve to be. She died the same day as Queen Elizabeth.

which one, I or II?

A lot of very old and very famous people dying lately.

R29 yeah love that clip. Mason knew she was going to lose, so it really didn’t register on her face. Woodward and Burstyn I think had some expectation of winning, so their emotions were honest. Babs was backstage, and from what I’ve read, left the building when she found out she lost.

r13 "Hopscotch" is another good film where she shows her comedy chops off well. She and Matthau made a fine team.

Best Elizabeth I performance, years ago in "Elizabeth R," and "Mary, Queen of Scots."

Fierce is a word I'd use to describe her, in all facets of her life.

RIP GJ.

It was reported she drank a 12 pack of Bud Light every day. What a classy lady.

[quote]She deserves better than the usual treatment we give around here.

Context is EVERYTHING.

When one of my closest friends and fellow DLer died, nothing would have given him greater joy in life and brought me comfort in his death than his getting the classic DL death treatment. When I asked DL for it by announcing he was Dead to Me, you guys came through with flying colors and gave him the sendoff he wanted and deserved.

X is Dead to Me, What's on his iPod, and asking "Can I have his stuff" are the equivalent to a 21 gun salute when done properly.

They're like calling someone a "bitch" or "faggot" - sometimes they are signs of love and respect when used between people who value and cherish each other.

R17, me too

Joan Crawford was her favorite actress. By the end of her life, Joan would say Glenda Jackson was one of her favorite actresses as well.

Loved Glenda. She gave a recent and great performance in Elizabeth is Missing about a woman suffering from dementia. Her performance as Elizabeth I in the landmark BBC series was the definitive Elizabeth unlike Cate Blanchett's half-baked turn.

RIP Glenda. You were one of the greats.

“Elizabeth is Missing” was on Masterpiece Theatre, was it nominated for an Emmy at least? It was very good.

R43 she won a BAFTA for it.

Plus she won an international Emmy for EIM, her third career Emmy.

Brave and unforgettable in “The Music Lovers”.

I was lucky enough to see her on stage, first in Mourning Becomes Elektra at the Citizens’ Theatre in Glasgow, then years later as King Lear on Broadway. I was always a huge fan since seeing her play the asylum patient playing Charlotte Corday in Marat/Sade on TV when I was a wee gay thing. A marvellous actress, and the kind of decent, principled politician that is fast disappearing.

My friend was engaged to Condola Rashad. They put her in a production of Saint Joan hoping she would get a Tony in 2018. Sadly, Miss Jackson came in and swooped it from her!

A minor but amusing film: GJ in "Nasty Habits." Set in a bugged nunnery and a satire on Nixon and Watergate.

"Why, yes, we could bug the elm walk [in the cloisters], but it would be wrong," Sister Alexandra.

Sandy Dennis was quite funny as John Dean-type character.

GJ was an amazing woman.

Saw her in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe?" with Jon Lithgow in LA in (I think) 1989.

She was very good, of course. As was he.

What I only realized years later was that the other woman in the cast was Cynthia Nixon. I didn't know who she was ten and don't recall her performance.

She was born very poor in Birkenhead, applied to drama school and included the stipulation that she would require a full scholarship (which she got). Won a reputation for serious, classic theatre performances, then moved into TV and film, winning 2 Emmys and 2 Oscars, but eventually decided that she found politics more interesting, so she took a seat out of the clutches of the Tories and retained it for 23 years before handing it on safely to another Labour MP. Then, after a 23 year break from acting, she naturally started by playing King Lear and took on a host of other big roles, adding another Emmy and a Tony to her awards shelf. And she just recently finished a film with Michael Caine about a WWII veteran who broke out of a care home to attend war commemoration events in Normandy.

The lady was formidable. If she had been PM instead of Thatcher, our country would be a far better place.

[quote]The lady was formidable. If she had been PM instead of Thatcher, our country would be a far better place.

She was lame and totally uninspiring as a politician, all she did was rant about Thatcher and the Conservatives.

^ so, she was a Human Being

I thought she was one of the greatest actresses of her generation. She was never pretty, but almost always had a "face with a view"...

Also, fuck Margaret Thatcher and fuck everything about her. Good on you, sweet Glenda.

She gave good face

She had a very moving scene in Return of the Soldier. I liked her in so many things. I know she was old but I was not expecting this.

Nurse Ratchets Permafrost Underscowl

I was so traumatized as a 14-year-old boy, seeing her writhe about nude on the floor of a train in "The Music Lovers."

My friend and I were so shocked to discover that women had so much pubic hair. And that it was red. And in a diamond shape, instead of the presumed triangle. And that it went all the way to the navel.

We dubbed it "The Glenda Puss" and vowed never to see one in real life.

you didn’t perve through National Bush Geographics?

R59 The porn we saw was like Playboy and they weren't allowed to show pubic hair then.

You know how black chicks are, r49.

Agree with R56 that she's wonderful in RETURN OF THE SOLDIER - it's very difficult to make a fundamentally good person interesting, but she did it by stripping any sentimentality from her performance. Not that she ever did indulge in sentimentality - she was tough-minded.

A gay site and no one's mentioned Sunday Bloody Sunday?

I despair sometimes.

Glenda winning a Tony for her triumphant return to acting, quietly slamming Dumpty and the MAGATs while she's up there.

"America has always been great."

Loved her, RIP.

R49 here. The trees were poplars not elms.

[quote]Babs was backstage, and from what I’ve read, left the building when she found out she lost.

And in her usual charmless, lack of tact way that she thinks is so endearing, told the press that she deserved to win for The Way We Were.

There's a wonderful, long out of print biography on her called "Fire and Ice" that is a great, quick read. She detested celebrity and all of the trappings that went with it, which no doubt probably infuriated some of her more Hollywood entrenched peers. Though Joan Crawford and Bette Davis adored her.

Meryl and her did an interview a while back that was also quite good. Meryl tries to softball Thatcher's legacy and Glenda was having none of it and was unimpressed.

I loved A Touch of Class when i rewatched it after George Segal died.

Her did, r66?

Stevie

In recent years she resembled John Hurt.

R69 ".... lingered hopefully by the tennis courts...!!"

The raciest movie I saw as a teen was Women in Love - not sure how I got to see it, guess theaters weren't enforcing age limits back then. Though the Oliver Reed/Alan Bates naked wrestling scene was one for the ages, it was Glenda whose performance made me rethink what great acting was.

R63 What's Sunday Bloody Sunday?

That famous scene

I don't think she was a great Hedda, but then I don't like Hedda, so...

Over the past ten years, I have become a fan of this actress just by watching some of her work on DVD randomly (picked them up in the library). I was astonished at what a great actress she was ('Elizabeth R' is a masterpiece, 'Touch of Class' was definitely Oscar winning) . I tried getting tickets to see her in '3 Tall Women' a few seasons past on Broadway, but it was impossible.

R73 It's one of the great LGBT movies about a romance between a charismatic bi artist (Murray Head), a sweet, closeted gay man (Peter Finch from Network) and a tough, vulnerable career-driven woman (Glenda Jackson).

Directed by John Schlesinger and can be viewed as a course-correct after his Midnight Cowboy (great as it is), to show modern gay people without pity and death. The film has such a lightness of touch and lazy-sunday kinda warmth and comic quality, including when we see a bunch of street kids keying cars on the side of the street (one of the kids is Daniel Day-Lewis). Ends with a beautiful, touching direct-to-camera soliloquy from one of the main characters. It's a shame that nobody gay I know has seen it.

R77 One of my favorite movies. I wanted to live in its world (like I wanted to live in the world of Breathless)

She is absolutely wonderful in "Turtle Diary."

As some posters pointed out, her Elizabeth R was outstanding—imo even better than Helen Mirren’s portrayal let alone Kate Blanchett’s. She played all the stages of Elizabeth I’s life from the vulnerable yet resilient young princess to the dying old queen so convincingly.

Cause of death: fentanyl laced in her molly.

She clearly had no vanity. There's a 2019 picture of her from 2019 in the link below.

No mention of her death on the ABC Evening News, yet David will inform us if some obscure sitcom actor from forty years ago dies.

Interesting that she died so shortly after former co-star Helmut Berger.

Dear, dear Glenda.

RIP

R58 but I bet you showed each other your bushes!

R84 Yes. And we need to keep Michael Caine safe. Three members from the same film (The Romantic Englishwoman) in a short space of time would be too much.

I recently learned that Caine is a conservative and a Brexit supporter. Disappointing, and a far cry from Jackson.

Caine is super right wing, and has been a real jerk about it these past few years.

Michael Caine deserved neither of his Oscars when you consider the competition. I would have given it to him for Educating Rita and that's it.

I was surprised Alan "big cock" Bates was overlooked for Women in Love

R90, What big cock?

Don't be coy, you wanked to him like we all did

Don't want to be disrespectful but wasn't Glenda the first Best Actress Winner who went nude in her winning role?

She had a great bosom in Women In Love

R93 I think you may be right.

I always recall Pauline Kael's uber-bitchy comment on The Music Lovers. "The audience is supposed to understand Tschaikovsky is gay because he isn't tempted to have sex with Glenda Jackson. But Glenda Jackson rolling around naked on broken glass on the floor of a train is not everybody's cup of tea."

Julie Christie was the first to bare her bosom to an Oscar win in Darling, R93.

[quote]

Susie did it to a nomination.

"The Maids"

I thought she never got enough screen time in "Charlie's Angels"

that itchy turtleneck 🐢 rears it’s uggy head once again

She was a surprise Best Actress winner in 1974

She wasn't in attendance to receive either of her 2 Oscars

R102, Amateur!

In 1971, Jackson still didn’t have a lot of money as an actress, and the studio, or anyone connected with Women In Love, surprisingly, made no overtures to pay for a flight for her to California for the Oscars, where she was favored to win. In 1974, she was working on a film when she won, watched it on tv, and compared the Oscars to a public hanging. She was clearly all about the work, not the celebrity aspect of it. I’m almost surprised she showed up for her Tony win five years ago, but Three Tall Women probably was still running on Broadway. She relented to give the Oscar to Art Carney in 1975, but I think she happened to be in town anyway.

[quote]In 1974, she was working on a film when she won, watched it on tv, and compared the Oscars to a public hanging. She was clearly all about the work, not the celebrity aspect of it.

r104 see r31

R104, Why was Streisand backstage during her category and not seated in the audience?

She did not perform the nominated title song from “The Way We Were”.

She looks pretty in that clip at R104!

I’m just so sad for Steve “Tired Old Queen at the Movies” Hayes. Jackson was his favorite living actress.

Bernhardt '76

I noticed Mothering Sunday was on Netflix earlier and sat through a sub Atonement story of wartime illicit sex with full frontal nudity and Edwardian pubic hair.

Glenda was in it for less than 5 minutes and kept all her clothes on.

Not worth watching.

[quote] Glenda was in it for less than 5 minutes and kept all her clothes on.

Not worth watching.

Well, if she had taken her kit off..

Joan Crawford named Glenda as one of her favorite actresses at her Town Hall appearance in 1973.

I always found that odd, r112. I would have thought she would have been critical of Glenda's lack of glamour.

R113, She also cited Katharine Hepburn that same evening, not known for glamour.

R106 she was filming Funny Lady, and was probably pissed off they wouldn’t let her sing The Way We Were, the best original song winner that night. She kept flip flopping if she would sing it or not, so they had enough of her shit and let Peggy Lee do it. She just popped over to the theater to see if she won.

R115 what was wrong with Barbara always stringing The Academy along as to whether she'd perform or not?

Hepburn was her contemporary, as you know, r114. They were on friendly terms. Also, Hepburn made lack of glamour glamorous. With her figure, and cheekbones, she easily got away with it. Joan criticized Woodward for making her own Oscar gown. Did she also admit liking Faye? That makes much more sense.

In the very entertaining “Hopscotch “, she gives an entire semester of acting lesson in one brief scene with her “first cup of coffee if the day”. (Walter Matthieu is also wonderful in this relatively overlooked film - “Hello …this is Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt…”).

R116 her cuntiness was at one of its peaks around this time frame, where she thought she could do no wrong, and everyone would indulge her. Of course, she sang Evergreen three years later at the Oscars because she was favored to win, and she did.

^^^”first cup of coffee OF the day”…

Glenda did attend the Oscar’s to present Best Actor the following year to Art Carney. She was also doing Hedda at a nearby theater .

Happy to meet you r121 I’m r104

Love her in Salome's Last Dance.

Only Carney and Nicholson showed up for that Best Actor Award. Lots of nominees (like Streisand) used to skip it...

[quote]I don't think she was a great Hedda, but then I don't like Hedda, so...

Hedda called, she said "fuck you".

What's she gonna do, r125, burn my hair off? I think she's a pill. At least Ingrid was capable of making her a luminous one.

[quote]She wasn't in attendance to receive either of her 2 Oscars

I asked Juliet Mills if Glenda asked her to accept and she said no, The Academy did. They knew she wasn't attending, but did know Juliet was there with her father, who ended up winning his that night, and her being British and all...

Did the Academy also ask Alice Ghostley to accept Maggie Smith’s 1970 Oscar?

Yes, they had a New Faces connection, but still . . .

R127 I always find that era of the Oscars fascinating, when proxies accepted for the winners, and what the connection was, or how they ended up accepting. Like Anne Bancroft for Elizabeth Taylor, Roz Russell for Helen Hayes, Frank Sinatra for Cliff Robertson, etc. Thanks. I always thought Jackson and Mills were friends.

R128 I always thought Smith maybe asked Ghostley. Someone should ask Maggie while she still alive to be certain.

I wanted to KILL HER in that horrible “Elizabeth is Missing” tv show.

I'd like to accept Maxwell Caulfield on Juliet's behalf.

“Frank Sinatra for Cliff Robertson, etc.”

The odd thing about that one was the fact that his then wife, Dina Merrill, was sitting in the audience.

Maggie and Alice were friends.

Glenda and Bette smoking

Forceful actresses, they.

[Quote] I always find that era of the Oscars fascinating, when proxies accepted for the winners, and what the connection was, or how they ended up accepting. Like Anne Bancroft for Elizabeth Taylor, Roz Russell for Helen Hayes, Frank Sinatra for Cliff Robertson, etc. Thanks. I always thought Jackson and Mills were friends.

and Raquel for Goldie in 1970

[quote]I always find that era of the Oscars fascinating, when proxies accepted for the winners, and what the connection was, or how they ended up accepting.

This was a fuck you, Bette Davis I was nominated moment. Patty Duke should have accepted for her.

R137 Bancroft wanted Duke to accept, but the Academy declined because Duke was a nominee, and it would complicate the press coverage (their rationale). Then Joan called Anne, and we know the rest.

Patty should at least have snatched Joan's wig.

This was a fuck you, Bette Davis I WASN'T nominated moment.

How many characters did she play where she was involved with a bisexual man?

Women in Love

Mary Queen of Scots

Sunday Bloody Sunday

The Music Lovers

Any other films?

The Triple Echo aka Soldier in Skirts? It's complicated...

I would have put on a dress for Oliver Reed, and I'm not even pretty.