Apple Vision Pro

I'd definitely wear it at home alone. Any other time seems weird and hostile. Maybe a plane...

Available early next year, apparently.

Looks quite polished, but I'll still wait until it's fifth gen before I decide whether to purchase it or not. And it definitely won't be from Apple because I have none of their products and I don't want to be locked into their ecosystem.

Looks like amazing technology but I’ll wait. $3500 isn’t a total deal breaker for me (still though) but my main concern is that a full “ecosystem” develops (apps/games) before I plunk down that kind of money.

What if it flops and you have a $355 headset that only works with a handful of apps? At least the Quest is only $300, so if Meta pulls the plug I wouldn’t get that upset.

This is the future. Everyone in their own little world behind some goggles. It is cool technology though.

Just as the iPad has become the parents tool to shut their kids up, this will be the next thing. Dakota if you don't eat your din dins then I'm taking your Vision Pro off you.

This is unbelievable.

I don't even have the Apple watch and I don't plan to get it. No, I am not interested in getting this Vision Pro.

I do have an old iPhone, an old iPad, and an old iMac, though.

I would love it if the tech progressed to what they had in the book (not movie) of Ready Player One.

I won't be buying this any time soon. But, where Apple goes, Samsung, Sony, and Google follow...at substantially lower prices.

WANT.

But I'll wait a generation or two for the technology to mature and the inevitable 50% price decline.

I can slum it with my Oculus until then, and use the extra money to treat myself to food and shelter

[quote]But I'll wait a generation or two for the technology to mature and the inevitable 50% price decline.

Agreed. There were huge jumps in the technology in just three years from the original iPhone (2007) to iPhone 3G and 3GS to iPhone 4 (2010).

No, you'll look totally cool like this guy 🙄

[quote] Retailing for $3.5k these 'augmented reality' head sets are going to be the ultimate status symbol.

Oh honey, absolutely [italic]no.[/italic]

What is wrong with you? You must not be an actual gay man.

I can already see some perky fucking gayling creating a DL thread a couple of decades from now, asking how we eldergays possibly survived without these. Google Glass and Facebook's Meta have both failed spectacularly, but I just get that inevitability vibe from this product after watching the video. VR and AI seemed like such distant prospects not that long ago, but they seem to finally have arrived, roughly at the same time.

r5 And the opposite as well, as in "Dakota, mommy's busy being in a better place right now" as she's lying next to a hunk on a virtual beach in Barbados for those glorious twenty minutes a day.

There already was something like this, maybe 15 years ago. It was called "Glass" or something like that. I can't remember if it was an Apple product.

It was Google Glass, R14. 10 years ago

Thanks, R15.

Google glass was a very different product.

It was more of cell phone in the form of glasses (including the camera). Most importantly, they looked very much like normal glasses. Anyone could be recording at any time with them and you wouldn't know (which isn't really that different from a cell phone now really).

It was one of the reasons Snapchat made their glasses so ... whatever. They have a light on when they were recording and are so distinctive looking.

[quote]Google Glass and Facebook's Meta have both failed spectacularly

I would not consider the Quest a failure. It doesn't sell like hotcakes, but they are on their 3rd version so clearly Meta is making money. I have one, and there are some things (Beatsaber, 360 degree Youtube videos, a rollercoaster ride, etc.) I really enjoy.

I would imagine with the M2 processor, Apple has taken this to the next level, so VR/AR may have arrived.

I also had never considered the monitor replacement angle. Apple's headset is a 4K display of ANY size that can work with your Mini/Studio. A premium 32 inch 4K display can be almost $3K by itself. And you can have multiple monitors.

I could only see myself watching movies or streaming services with them.

I actually can’t wait to try them out.

I have watched VR Sex videos with my Oculus and it is amazing. I feel just like I am laying down while the gorgeous man is mounting me. Takes my breath away.

I'm genuinely concerned R20 is NOT trolling.

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For $3500 you should get a year of free lube

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[quote]But will we all look like assholes wearing them?

Oh yes. 100%.

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Here is a sample of Gay VR Porn. You won't be able to see the 3D experience, but you can see what happens.

What about the ppl who wear glasses already ?

^^^ You can get prescription inserts.

r11 - honk-honk

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Yes, vr porn on the meta is truly insane. Pair it with poppers, and even more so. I can only guess itll be even better on this Apple thing.

I’m getting excited.

As Scott Galloway likes to say, no one puts anything on their face that makes them less attractive to mates.

As we saw with Google Glass, these things just identify people as nerds.

Its about damn time. I've been waiting all my life for this stuff, and I'm not getting any younger...

I have an Oculus and porn is shocking on it. You are seeing through the eyes of the victim. In virtual reality, I was the passive bottom and you can see this man mount you. If you have ever had this experience you will know what I mean. Sensory overload kicks in and it can go either way, good or bad. It really is intense and I had to rip the thing off my head and take some breaths. It was scary.

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No. I want off this planet or this version of reality. This is dystopia.

r17 You're grossly misinformed. Meta is not making money. In fact, the situation is so bad, Zuckerberg has started pouring his own money into it.

[quote]What scenes did you watch?

I'm guessing "Dawson's 50-Load Weekend."

[quote]But will we all look like assholes wearing them?

That's never bothered an Apple user before.

As someone who actually uses VR things without a headset (VRChat), I have to say that Apple is going to struggle to market this overly-engineered headset. In a world of $300 Oculus Quests and various other headsets that are much cheaper, the Apple headset offers no real social or major game features that would entice serious VR enthusiasts. It's much more a lifestyle device and in my opinion, this clunky first-gen design should only be for software developers. $3.5k is my budget for an ENTIRE new high-end PC. Not something that I can watch YouTube videos and read DL with, not much else it can do. At least with the gaming PC, I can do a whole lot more with VR and AI "machine learning" capabilities. I'll be around when you can get one for $500.

R36 is the definition of MARY!

Apple assholes will just have to have one.

R42, I’m sure that Apple will struggle a bit, but so far, they’ve always been able to overcome them and deliver a superior product and from what I’ve seen, this product is quite an advance in development beyond other similar products. But i do want to confirm that by trying one out when it’s issued. I am going to wait a few years however, I haven’t seen evidence that the gaming world and other developers have been able to develop many apps for it.

R44 it isn’t just Apple assholes. For those who can easily afford it, it’s going to be a status symbol to have one. The rich will buy them, of that I’m sure.

You just recruited a1,000 Dataloungers to Oculus, [R36].

Not impressed. Looks like a failure in the making.

Apple fanboys will rush out to buy one. But normal people will look at the price tag and pass.

R47, it will not be a failure. And it won’t be just Apple fan boys who will buy this. It’s what Apple does best—take an idea already being worked on, engineer it for maximum bells and whistles, and sell it for a lot of bucks.

Everyone yammering on about VR porn reminds me of Demolition Man, which is something I’d have never anticipated. Wasn’t there a scene where Sandy’s character said people only got off using VR?

Oculus is a failure at a fraction of the price.

R50, these things are the future… there will be a lot of failures along the way, but this is 100 percent where the industry is going, and someone will hit the market at the right time with the right device and make a ton of money. Maybe it’s Apple, maybe it’s someone else. It’s inevitable.

I saw the rollout video yesterday and I thought the users looked clunky, stupid and navel gazing , even though Apple is trying hard to make them look cool and the users approachable, which, let's face it, they don't. You've got this humungous headset on that looks like a nightmare and special needs, and you are all wrapped up in yourself. Why would your family try to talk to you or you make dinner and chat using it? Plus, I've gotta say I think this is gonna fuck with people's minds. Replay memories like that? What if you get stuck in wanting the VR and not reality, like after a breakup or death of a loved one?

Cue the cross fit bros all sporting 3500 dollar apple vr head sets. "Dude. Do you even Apple bro?"

[quote] Here is a sample of Gay VR Porn. You won't be able to see the 3D experience, but you can see what happens.

I don't have a VR headset. Can you tell me what happens in this film and how it ends?

R52, I was talking to a friend of mine and I said I could totally see people having a conversation through those things, while sitting next to each other.

What will happen is what has happened with everyone and their iPhones—except 10 times over. People will be sucked into them, like r52 pointed out. It will become an addiction just like phones—probably more so.

I think I’m buying more Apple stock.

I’m interested in it because I actually like my oculus but hate a few things about it, which Apple seems to have worked out. Namely, I had how you have to create a play area to use the oculus. As best as I can tell, you can move freely with this one. I also hate how you go completely blind to your surroundings with oculus, whereas this one you can see through it if you choose. Still not planning on buying Gen 1, but can see myself buying Gen 2.

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A fool and his money....

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Pre-ordered!

Anyone else?

I'm glad you have $3k just burning in your pocket for a first-generation gadget, R60!

To think some DLers may have paid double for an actual Apple computer….

I'm so getting one of these babies.

R61 & R63 Me too! :high-five:

I'm going for the total asshole look myself!

[QUOTE] Cue the cross fit bros all sporting 3500 dollar apple vr head sets. "Dude. Do you even Apple bro?"

No, that will happen in a few years when they’re $1500 and half the size and weight, R53.

It's a fun toy. I'm enjoying the heck out of mine, but it's not ready for primetime, but if you're the kind of person who likes to run beta versions of operating systems, you'll dig it.

How’s the porn on this thing?

I tried something on Oculus around 2018 and was nearly motion sick if I didn't stare at the "horizon". What's going to prevent that with this thing?

r52, it's basically a Black Mirror episode called, "The Entire History of You".

R69, the increased fidelity staves off nausea, personally compared to my Oculus Quest, which I only use as a modded beat saber game console.

R69, the greater fidelity helps in reducing motion sickness, versus the Oculus Quest.

I mostly use the Quest as a modded version of Beat Saber console; The Vision is a much better media consumption device than the Oculus devices.

NYTimes gave it a pretty negative review.

R69 Toby Kebbell was so hot in that episode.

So hot. I was certain he'd blow up big after that episode, just thanks to his hotness alone.

[quote]After using the headset for about five days, I’m unconvinced that people will get much value from it.

[quote]The device feels less polished than past first-generation Apple products I’ve used. It’s not better for doing work than a computer, and the games I’ve tried so far aren’t fun, which makes it difficult to recommend. An important feature – the ability to place video calls with a humanlike digital avatar that resembles the wearer – terrified children during a family FaceTime call.

Yeah, this needs about a decade or more to mature.

[quote]I felt nauseated just reading the review. Especially the part in which the reviewer himself pays $3,500 for the device and then close to $500 for extraneous stuff such as a $200 carrying case. All that money so he can feel nauseated while tripping over furniture, frightening small children and looking like an insect. Impressive product. Those who buy it no doubt deserve it.

Funny comment under NYT's review.

[quote]Those who buy it no doubt deserve it.

Thank you for that quote. I have been thinking of returning it because it's a vulgar amount of money to spend, but I do deserve it.

I also would deserve to get laughed at and mugged if I ever wore it in public.

R68. I haven't tried out porn, yet; I'm scared of making my avatar go all Toobin during a conference call.

I did try porn on my Oculus Quest a while back, I didn't enjoy it enough to want to do that on the regular.

it felt like a bad 3D movie from the 80s, "Comin' at Ya" 3D era.

I actually love porn on the oculus, especially if doing poppers. It can be hot.

"3,500$ chastity belt."

Writing this from my new Meta Quest 3! Using the DL on a platform like this is FUCKING insane. It's not a gimmick, girls. I'm watching Pluto TV and scrolling the DL. on HUGE displays. It feels massive.

[quote]But will we all look like assholes wearing them?

Most definitely yes. Everyone will know you jerk off with tweezers.

That headset will be collecting dust in two weeks max, R80.

[quote] these things are the future… there will be a lot of failures along the way, but this is 100 percent where the industry is going

No they are not because there is literally no reason for them to exist. There is no reason for me to put on a pair of virtual goggles so that I can call up Excel in a virtual PC interface when I can just pull up my goddamn computer and use that.

Piffle, R80. Do you have one, an experience as such?

Fancy shopping cart.

They've stopped development on Vision Pro 2.0 and are instead focusing on a cheaper version.

[quote]Citing both an employee in Apple's headset supply chain and one working in headset manufacturing for Apple, the report claims that the cheaper Vision product – perhaps around the $1,600 mark – is due before the end of 2025. Apple had originally intended to present this headset alongside the Vision Pro, similar to the models available in each iPhone release. The more affordable model would likely have fewer cameras, smaller speakers, and weigh less, though Apple has struggled to bring down the cost of the unit's displays.

[quote]The Vision Pro will launch in China, Japan, Australia, and many European countries later this month. Apple has produced roughly 500,000 Vision Pro headsets and will not make significantly more, despite the entry of these new markets.

As so many in this thread and elsewhere rightfully pointed out, that ridiculous price tag is an adoption killer.

R83 You’re not thinking big. Of course there’s a reason for them to exist, this is we’ve been seeing in futuristic movies for decades.

Honestly, I think this is for developers. It’s a prototype for sale. This is giving creatives an idea to make better technology for it.

No, this was launched as a fully-formed consumer product and it failed in its current form because there are no games and no porn and it's expensive as shit. Creatives and developers only bother with something if there's a critical mass of consumers already owning a certain product.

Glad they saw the light in the end and are working on bringing down the price above all else.

Selling a gimmick at almost $4,000. Gee I wonder what could possibly go wrong.

It's a flop. Interesting effort from Apple, but the price tag is way too high and it has too many restrictions. There's also the vertigo problem that all AR/VR headsets have.

It is cost prohibitive, but worse, it's uncomfortable. I've tried a few different straps and it's a painful sweaty mess in ski goggle theater after a few minutes of use.