Did you love Ugly Betty and Devil Wears Prada but wish it was gayer? Then I have a show fir you.
“He’s going to Yassss Kween us into bankruptcy!”
Wow! The usage of that phrase as a noun and a verb started here on Datalounge and it now is in the public zeitgeist. I’m so proud, as I was the one who coined “Yassss Kweens” as in “those fucking Yassss Kweens”. The writers must read this site.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 5, 2023 5:21 PM |
Will we ever get any kind of representation where we as gay men are just normal? You know wearing a suit? Being a doctor? Acting masculine? Not wearing nail polish? Not prolapsed?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 5, 2023 5:22 PM |
Who is going to watch this woke, yet homophobic minstrel show?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 5, 2023 5:23 PM |
I adore Ugly Betty and have rewatched it more than once. While I love the idea of a knockoff series with a gay male lead, Marc was just the right amount of femmy. This one is just too much for me, can't relate to the main character. He's more trans than gay.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 5, 2023 5:23 PM |
And he/she/they is ugly
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 5, 2023 5:24 PM |
Did you notice the SJP lookalike?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 5, 2023 5:30 PM |
R2 for the WIN!
Thread Closed
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 5, 2023 5:34 PM |
He walks into a glass door and can't manage a water cooler bottle. Comic chestnuts.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 5, 2023 5:34 PM |
R8 next season he’ll break an acrylic nail, and his douche hose will get away from him in the shower.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 5, 2023 5:37 PM |
And yet another performance of Samantha by Kim Catrell. Yawn.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 5, 2023 5:39 PM |
And just like that… another fag becomes a Queer.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 5, 2023 5:40 PM |
"queer man" haha that sounds so fucking dumb.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 5, 2023 8:51 PM |
Can't anybody just be 'gay' these days?
Why does everyone have to be queer or LGBTQ+?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 5, 2023 8:54 PM |
R2 Agreed
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 5, 2023 8:56 PM |
Thanks Op, i will try to. At least until it gets cancelled.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 5, 2023 9:07 PM |
Looks GOOD.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 5, 2023 9:22 PM |
[quote]Will we ever get any kind of representation where we as gay men are just normal? You know wearing a suit? Being a doctor? Acting masculine? Not wearing nail polish? Not prolapsed?
Yes, and we no one watched NPH's show, so it got cancelled.
People only want to watch a gays in a mistrel show like Bros, QAF, and this Ode to Yaaaas Kweeens.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 5, 2023 9:23 PM |
R17 at least Bros made the love interest masculine
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 6, 2023 4:28 AM |
Sane gays are sick of this shit.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 6, 2023 4:29 AM |
[quote] Will we ever get any kind of representation where we as gay men are just normal? You know wearing a suit? Being a doctor? Acting masculine? Not wearing nail polish? Not prolapsed?
Yes, HBO gave us the excellent Looking a few years ago but no one watched it so that got cancelled. As R17 points out, seems that people are only interested in yasss kweeeens.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 6, 2023 11:13 AM |
I watched the preview on Netflix and it's pretty much one cliche after another.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 12, 2023 11:51 PM |
Kim K looks great in the still photo. Get that Emmy girl.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 12, 2023 11:54 PM |
R2 you mean like Tales of the City which you bitches refuse to watch.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 12, 2023 11:56 PM |
R2, exactly! It’s getting worrisome at this point . Going to send normal men who are gay back in closet
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 12, 2023 11:57 PM |
R23 we watched the original. Not the new series with all the rapey trannys acting poorly.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 13, 2023 12:01 AM |
Gay men are under attack
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 13, 2023 12:06 AM |
R2 The tv show Being Mary Jane had a very well developed multifaceted gay character who was glass closeted. He was the main characters closest friend and was well adjusted, successful, and “normal”. He also was African-American.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 13, 2023 12:07 AM |
[quote] Going to send normal men who are gay back in closet
What a masculine response to a new Netflix show.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 13, 2023 1:08 AM |
Watching the trailer made me feel like I was watching a gay minstrel show.
"Should I bow? Do you want me to bow?"
**vomits**
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 13, 2023 9:36 PM |
This. Looks. Awful.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 13, 2023 9:44 PM |
R30 Anyways who fonts like that immediately must be taken with a grain.of.salt.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 13, 2023 9:57 PM |
Even when she was younger, Kim Cattrall was never supermodel beautiful. It’s hard to buy her character was ever a “supermodel of the world.”
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 13, 2023 10:50 PM |
R32 I think she was really pretty when young. Much prettier than SJP ever was or could be. It’s not hard to believe because she looks great for 70 now.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 13, 2023 10:55 PM |
R33 And no I’m not a Kim C fangurl as I think she must be a little fucked up in the head or somehwat damaged mentally the way she handled her rift with SJP and ultimately not wanting to be on the show anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 13, 2023 10:57 PM |
There should be a Constitutional Amendment that bans these fucking Tiktok/Youtube personalities from getting acting jobs.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 13, 2023 11:36 PM |
Ugh, that VOICE.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 13, 2023 11:47 PM |
Are you supposed to believe that there are straight men that work in cosmetics?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 14, 2023 12:38 AM |
R2 is anyone actually watching. I bet the son turns out to be gay.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 14, 2023 12:44 AM |
The 911 show has masculine gays doing masculine things like fighting crime and fires.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 14, 2023 1:02 AM |
Ooof.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 14, 2023 12:49 PM |
That FUCKING VOICE!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 14, 2023 12:55 PM |
This seems tiresome.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 14, 2023 8:58 PM |
[Quote]I’m so proud, as I was the one who coined “Yassss Kweens” as in “those fucking Yassss Kweens”. The writers must read this site.
Bitch, step back. I was the one who started calling those gay stereotypes Yasss Kweens.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 14, 2023 9:35 PM |
Eh, I'll probably watch it.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 14, 2023 9:42 PM |
so basically what if the gay kid from ugly betty grew up kind of show
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 16, 2023 4:46 AM |
The Guardian review - Kim looks bored out of her mind.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 22, 2023 11:21 AM |
Pass.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 22, 2023 11:26 AM |
r47 You'd think she'd look animated for that one gig she books. Or maybe she can't because of the face work? She's like the Megan Mullally of SATC in that I'm starting to believe the other cast members that she actually was the problem, not them.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 22, 2023 11:27 AM |
It's flopping like a Katy Perry single!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 22, 2023 11:32 AM |
R46 oh please Ugly Betty is much more comedic and campy than Devil Wears. You suck at cultural critical analysis.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 22, 2023 4:02 PM |
So, this is a bad version of Ugly Betty?
I wonder why Cattrall doesn't get better roles.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 22, 2023 4:42 PM |
Someone please just offer her a “Mannequin” reboot. It could be a streaming series about her daughter… maybe granddaughter at this point?
Better yet, a handsome 20-year-old mannequin grandson!
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 22, 2023 4:55 PM |
Cattrall owes a great deal of respect to SJP and Darren for casting her in SATC. Ungrateful cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 22, 2023 4:58 PM |
[quote]I wonder why Cattrall doesn't get better roles.
Difficult.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 22, 2023 5:03 PM |
This show is for the under 25 crowd that thrives on rebellious adolescent behavior. Not for this elder. Next!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 22, 2023 5:05 PM |
Stepin Snatchitt
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 22, 2023 5:28 PM |
And Kim Cattrall gave up working with Sarah Jessica Parker to star in this shit show🤔
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 23, 2023 2:28 AM |
I watched the first episode out of boredom and because I loved Ugly Betty and thought it might capture some of that show's charm. Nope.
Biggest issue (among many)? The lead does nothing to earn his "time to shine" with Cattrall's character. She, a famous ex-moded-turned-mogul, just happens to walk into his counter in the mall or where ever. Pure chance. And he wows her in thirty seconds. By not really doing anything other than being a bitchy femme twink. And then boom. He has a job.
That might be the worst way to kick off a pilot I've ever seen. It wasn't funny, awkward, a challenge, ridiculous, over the top, the result of hard work, the result of him knowing where she might be and making sure he was there too, etc. She just walks in like any normal customer. And he serves her. That's it. That starts off the entire series. I wasn't expecting Breaking Bad, but that was just terrible.
Also, I think its cool he's nonbinary (or whatever). It totally fits this world. But I've never, ever met a somewhat hot gay bro who is remotely into nonbinary, stiletto wearing types. And the lead has two of those types into him in the pilot. But that's not that big of a deal, I guess. Just laughable unrealistic. And made me eyes roll more than a few times.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 23, 2023 5:42 AM |
I just hate watched the series, clicking the Netflix forward button. The basic plot is
All gay men love feminine partners. If they don’t there white cis gays Who are also abusive
They show our titular self hating white muscle gay actually dating himself, the actor playing both roles.
At the end our proverbial non binary star skips off to the trans clinic.., cause….like…he likes make up so must be a woman. No gender disphoria, no internalised struggle… just… mmmm maybe I’ll be a woman now.
It’s so deeply homophobic. Amazing it got made.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 23, 2023 8:03 AM |
[quote] GLAMOROUS tells the story of MARCO MEJIA, a young gender non-conforming queer man
Oh, for fuck sake!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 23, 2023 8:21 AM |
I lasted 6 episodes just to see Kim (who's almost sleepwalking through it), and muscley Zane being comic and muscley; then other muscley guy showed great pecs and butt.
But lead yasss queen Marco has helium vocal-fry and horrid fashion sense, like a tween on a shopping binge at Pant Suit Barn.
But the worst was the fake 'amusement park' ride the other sassy queen from the bar dragged corporate-takeover gal through (the drag queen campaign, because nothing says Pride like a gaggle of drag queens), a tour of "history" that included (I knew it) an extended, pedantic regurgitation of the Martha P. Johnson lies about her 'starting' the Stonewall riots.
Nope. Done. Book closed.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 23, 2023 8:27 AM |
My name better have been included too, R65!!!!!!
It's always Marsha, Marsha, MARSHA!
I'm really starting to hate that bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 23, 2023 8:39 AM |
Kim Cattrall looks amazing. She's had excellent work done, and still looks like herself.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 23, 2023 9:14 AM |
I stopped reading right at:
[quote]young gender non-conforming queer
It's a hard no from me then.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 23, 2023 9:20 AM |
Miss Benny was kind of cute when he was a guy, but now....
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 23, 2023 9:30 AM |
What is that thing behind Kim Cattrall in the pics ? Does it have pronouns ?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 23, 2023 7:38 PM |
R71 You didn't watch the trailer, did you?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 23, 2023 7:39 PM |
I watched it muted because that thing looked frightening r72.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 23, 2023 8:10 PM |
Kim Kartrash!
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 23, 2023 8:17 PM |
No one wants to work with Kim.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 23, 2023 8:21 PM |
R75 = SJP
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 23, 2023 10:33 PM |
R75 = everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 23, 2023 10:54 PM |
Kim thinks she's a star. NOT.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 23, 2023 10:56 PM |
So, that's how they see gay people?
Fuck them, and fuck Kim Katrash!
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 23, 2023 10:58 PM |
Why couldn’t Zane be the star of this show instead of that lady-man?
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 24, 2023 12:04 AM |
Zane is actually very good in this. He can do comedy which is not easy.
I did not think much of the fancasts that have been pushing him for the Hercules live-action movie, but he would nail the role.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 24, 2023 12:11 AM |
I figured out what’s wrong with this show.
It was written by someone who grew up watching Ryan Murphy.
But it’s quippy without being witty. Murphy could actually be witty.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 24, 2023 1:06 AM |
I mean one of the lines was the femme boy barging in on a meeting and saying “I’m a twink on PREP. I can do anything.”
It feels like bad Ryan Murphy. Like Murphy done by AI.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 24, 2023 1:22 AM |
R85 oh my that’s horrible writing. Wont watch.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 24, 2023 2:13 AM |
The main character, Marco, is the main problem. I don't think that the actor is bad, but the part is so stereotypical unreal and exaggerated that probably will destroy his short career. He is a combination of the entitlement and annoyance that Emily in Paris has been hated so much for, with the added element of him being an average boy that wears far too much make up and high heels landing an executive assistant job at a cosmetic firm, with no experience more than working part time on a make up counter and wearing makeup?! I know that there may be influencers in the world that survive from that, and every body hates them, so why make this kind of person the centre of a story?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 24, 2023 6:24 PM |
Watching this series is painful, and I really hope that instead of hiring diversity advisors, they start hiring drama and mental health advisors. I am very concerned of the unrealistic message that these kind of shows send to our youth. The message that you are entitled to "success" just by wearing make up and "slay", that anyone with a little more experience who wants to guide you is considered an enemy, and that going around calling people "straight boy" or "white man" is something that is appropriate in the environment we live on.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 24, 2023 6:25 PM |
I love Kim Cattrall but I got through less than 10 minutes ot this.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 24, 2023 6:34 PM |
R88, ok boomer.
Be gone, racist. Wig snatched. Shooketh. Library is open, you've been read.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 24, 2023 6:55 PM |
"This show is for the under 25 crowd that thrives on rebellious adolescent behavior."
"I feel so rebellious when I obey every last command from my capitalist cosmetic overlords in order to enact unhealthy stereotypes that have existed for thousands of years!"
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 24, 2023 6:59 PM |
The shows writing is horrid. It’s execution of humor is not funny and downright pathetic. To make comedy of using prep without the punchlines being hysterical is cringey. It’s sad. This show is a mockery of the LGBT community.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 24, 2023 7:05 PM |
And it’s like one person said the the whole setup is absurd. He meets one of the most powerful women in fashion just by chance and she falls in love with his persona just like that. The bitch can barely act and is not charismatic. And God knows I love my beautiful androgynous gays but he’s not that pretty.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 24, 2023 7:07 PM |
I tried to watch Glamorous last night, but stopped after the first episode. The non-binary lead in heels, lipstick with chest hair and mustache is too much! He/"They" would be cute dressed as a boy (or girl), but the whole mix/match is not cute, sorry. Also, the characters are so cliche or boring. Zane gorgeous in it, although his character is grating. I will continue with my Lucifer binge instead.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 24, 2023 8:47 PM |
Tempted to watch this on mute. Ben J. Pierce's (refuse to call him anything else) voice just kills my ears but really want to see the eye candy of the other actors.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 25, 2023 6:26 AM |
characters played by Phllips and Rosen should have an an affair.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 25, 2023 8:57 AM |
Watched the first episode and couldn’t stop cringing at the accumulation of clichés as well as completely unrealistic situations. I also noticed some lines of dialogues or events taken straight out of Ugly Betty and TDWP. Poor Cattrall, she deserves better.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 25, 2023 12:15 PM |
[quote] She just walks in like any normal customer. And he serves her. That's it.
We have been spoilt by the analagous scene in Mrs Maisel, back in Season 1 or 2, where she was seconded to the make-up counter and quickly amassed a sea of fans because of her Datalounge-like capacity to say at a glance, "No! That shade's entirely wrong for you! Your skin has too rosy a tone for it - here, try this one." (You knew she'd have got Meghan Markle sorted out in a trice had she had the opportunity.)
by Anonymous | reply 98 | June 25, 2023 1:16 PM |
Less Marco, more Kim.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | June 25, 2023 1:29 PM |
What was up with the one who always wore sunglasses and said like one word each scene? Johnny Slash did it first and did it better.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | June 25, 2023 1:37 PM |
Why are you bringing up Meghan Markle R98?
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 25, 2023 1:43 PM |
Whoever wrote R77's article at the link is fucking lazy. Kim CATTRELL?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | June 25, 2023 1:53 PM |
I watched the first episode and the last episode and based on what I heard I wanna watch the Provincetown episode. Does the smokin' hot son get naked?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | June 25, 2023 3:53 PM |
R25 - yes, exactly. It's not for old farts or those who want normal, sedate, or mundane depictions of gays and gay life. I'm over 60 and found the show entertaining fluff. Escapist watching. I recall DL being mostly over-the-moon about that ridiculously grandiose, over-the-top hetero-centric show Emily in Paris, but OH NO, Glamorous is quite simply a bridge too far! Get over yourselves. All sorts of flamboyant individuals do exist even if those who dislike that portrayal disagree and find it offensive. The world is huge and diverse on multiple levels. If you don't like it, or if it offends your delicate sensibilities, then for fuck's sake, don't watch it, sweeties.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 25, 2023 4:52 PM |
^^ Typo - that should have been a response to the person who said the show was for the under 25 crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | June 25, 2023 4:53 PM |
I willed my way through most of the show after a bout with insomnia last night. It truly is remarkably bad.
It's not the nonbinary thing - which is super try hard, but never really bothered me. It's just so poorly written, conceived, and executed. From the character development to the plot to the "ticking time bombs" that don't seem to have any semblance to reality.
I wonder if this show suffered from a small writer's room - the thing the writers are striking about? Because every episode feels like it could the start of something interesting and then falls flat. As if they ran out of time or just gave up on the plot.
Take the love triangle. None of it make sense when watching the episodes back to back. Marco flip flops over and over, but it's never quite clear why. It all feels so arbitrary and surface-y. And each time he "breaks a heart" says, "Gee. I just never done anything like this before!". Bitch please! You just did it last episode!
Again, it's really a bad show. Not sure if Kim picked right after all. And Just Like That is bad too, but with way better production values and I assume a much bigger paycheck.
(We do see Marco in "normal" clothes in the PTown episode. He's just your basic twink.)
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 25, 2023 5:40 PM |
So I guess the main actor just came out as trans. One less reason to motivate me to watch this.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | June 26, 2023 11:42 PM |
You know if you are cute little thing who weighs 120 pounds soaking wet, I say go for it. Unleash your ladyboy.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | June 27, 2023 12:00 AM |
Looks like a gay minstrel show to me.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | June 27, 2023 12:00 AM |
The voice is a big no for me.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 27, 2023 12:02 AM |
R108 Thats a LOT of filtering and fard. She doesn't look like that in this series.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 27, 2023 12:02 AM |
R108 She’s got some work done. Well in her case it was necessary to become trans lol.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | June 27, 2023 12:09 AM |
NGL
If I was a hot little trans thing was passed well, I would love to pick up guys at bars, taken them back to their hotel rooms, and rob them at gunpoint.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 27, 2023 12:27 AM |
For that to be the same person she had a face transplant in Seoul.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 27, 2023 12:29 AM |
A Seoul transplant
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 27, 2023 12:43 AM |
Wow...
Some of you are B.R.U.T.A.L!
I'm watching it now. I'm on episode 8. I find it to be light-hearted fun fare. I'd rather be watching this than any reality show that's out here. I think that the guys are HOT--especially that Zane Phillips, but that Graham Parkhurst and Michael Hsu Rosen are up there in hotness too. I also think that the older men, Mark Decklin and Ricardo Chiavera are HOT too!
I like how it opens the story of Kim Catrall having a rich, gay son, from the beginning. I also like the wardrobe that whoever is styling KC with. Very nice.
Overall, I have found the series to be nonsensical fun. It holds my attention. I shut it off when I tire of it but I'll come back to the episode and place where I left off.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | June 27, 2023 6:47 PM |
I agree that it sucks in every way but is still watchable and pleasant.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 27, 2023 8:00 PM |
I will say it never hurts to have multiple hot gay male characters, especially when they're played by out gay actors.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 27, 2023 10:00 PM |
Yes but why are there always fugs in the way.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | June 27, 2023 10:02 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 28, 2023 5:26 PM |
It'll just go from a gay show to a trans show if there's a season 2
by Anonymous | reply 122 | June 29, 2023 6:54 PM |
R120 She looked really bad on The View. Her face is really puffy. It's either too much filler or too much booze. Or both.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | June 29, 2023 6:58 PM |
[quote]Will there be a Season 2?
I do hope that there will be a 2nd season. While things are changing (against some but growing headwinds) I like the fact that these are roles that will give gay, out, and proud, actors some work. I also hope that they won't be stereotyped and pideon-holed in these types of roles.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | June 29, 2023 9:42 PM |
R124 Pideon-holing is the worst.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | June 29, 2023 10:50 PM |
So if there is a second season, will the plot center around all the hot buff masc gay guys who just can’t wait to get in the lady’s panties? Or will she date straight guys, since she’s not a gay twink any longer?
Now that she’s transitioned it’ll just be a show about straight people, I guess. So yay, progress.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | June 29, 2023 11:11 PM |
The lead twink is insufferably smug and the character sounds like your basic Mary Sue.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | June 30, 2023 1:46 AM |
None of the criticism above is wrong and I want to hate the show for all of these reasons. But I actually like it.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | June 30, 2023 4:45 AM |
R120 😱 Whoopi looks great. I’m a Whoopi fan but she hasn’t look this vibrant in ages. I really liked this interview.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | June 30, 2023 5:23 AM |
15 Steamy Pics of Graham Parkhurst, the Gym Stud From 'Glamorous'
by Anonymous | reply 131 | July 2, 2023 6:57 AM |
I am in the same boat r117.
Objectively this show is terrible. The premise is dumb, the dialogue is dumb, the acting is not great.
But yet I've started binging it this weekend and I want to finish watching it. Somehow I still find it a guilty pleasure to watch in spite of it being a shit show.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | July 2, 2023 8:28 PM |
R132 the same here. the show is not that bad . I hope there will be 2nd season. I wanna see Zane Phillips to date someone in the show.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | July 2, 2023 10:13 PM |
So which hot gay guy will date the trans girl?
by Anonymous | reply 134 | July 2, 2023 10:42 PM |
It's a fun summer show, brimming with gay representation. Is it perfect? Hell no, but it is watchable. And agree that whoever is styling Kim is doing a great job.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | July 3, 2023 2:34 AM |
Out of all these unrealistic things in the show honestly the most unrealistic thing is Graham Parkhurst's character sees Marco at Equinox and is obsessed with getting with him r131.
The real truth is the muscle gays at Equinox Hudson Yards are not chasing after someone that looks like Miss Benny.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | July 3, 2023 5:44 PM |
They underwrote it but I believe the setup is that (pre) tranny dick is his shameful dirty fetish. THOSE guys do exist.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | July 3, 2023 5:46 PM |
[quote]Out of all these unrealistic things in the show honestly the most unrealistic thing is Graham Parkhurst's character sees Marco at Equinox and is obsessed with getting with him [R131]. The real truth is the muscle gays at Equinox Hudson Yards are not chasing after someone that looks like Miss Benny.
I so disagree. You have no idea about what gets anyone's sex drive raging. What about the MANY "straight" men who date (and even marry) "chicks with dicks"? Or, men who are attracted to (and sometimes marry) women who are not the stereotypical female ie Julia Child and her husband? While I like... no, LOVE... Michelle Obama (and I do NOT think in anyway that she is a man) she is a big-boned girl and there are many people who think that he could have done better re shape, looks, etc
The most unrealistic thing to me in this series is when Ben was telling another that Marco is a top!
by Anonymous | reply 139 | July 3, 2023 6:05 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 140 | July 3, 2023 6:10 PM |
I’m sorry…there’s nothing glamorous about being a pug-nosed, post menopausal CUNT, who continually disavows the singular accomplishment (co-starring in SATC) that made her relevant.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | July 3, 2023 6:44 PM |
Hi Sarah!!!
by Anonymous | reply 142 | July 3, 2023 6:50 PM |
Kim Cattral and her wardrobe are the best thing about the show.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | July 3, 2023 6:52 PM |
It would actually be way more believable if Hot Gym Bro was "straight" and into Marco. That DOES happen. All the time. And could make for a very compelling storyline.
But since Gym Bro is gay? I just don't see it. Or I've never seen it in my 43 years of life. Sure it can happen, of course.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | July 3, 2023 8:14 PM |
I am in the minority here, but I really liked this show, and I look forward to a season 2.
I found Marco (Miss Benny) adorable. His lack af acting credits worked in his favor .
All the characters grow over the ten episodes, but I especially liked Zane Phillips' Chad. He comes off as a Blockhead, but there is greater depth to him.
I liked it because it focused on relationships...with family, with friends, with coworkers, with lovers, and with yourself.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | July 3, 2023 8:15 PM |
True r144. Closet cases are a different beast. And I even could believe something could happen between the two characters, but not the way it was written. He doesn't fall for Marco because he got to know him, it is instant attraction and he is smitten hard. So I am supposed to believe this successful, sexually active NY muscle gay stalked Marco to Starbucks to try to make sure something happened between them.
Ultimately it doesn't matter, it's TV show, and not even a especially realistic one. But I did say as if.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | July 3, 2023 8:23 PM |
Having worked with her when I was a NYC colorist, Kim is definitely channeling NYC cosmetics heiress Trish MacEvoy for the character. The gravelly voice, knowing, even tone, and aloofness.
Trish is a fabulous, savvy woman, has the same mannerisms, is an aging doyenne with a sly youthful spirit, and is very brass tacks no nonsense about her business. She also chose me over the lead colorist at the shop because I stopped to make her a cappuccino and asked her if she was OK. Apparently none of the cunts in the color department I worked with wanted to have anything to do with her. She referred a ton of business into my chair.
Then one day one of the stylist snagged her diamond earring with a paddlebrush, flung it to the floor, and stepped on it, crushing the mount.
We never saw her again.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | July 3, 2023 8:52 PM |
[quote]True [R144]. Closet cases are a different beast. He doesn't fall for Marco because he got to know him, it is instant attraction and he is smitten hard. So I am supposed to believe this successful, sexually active NY muscle gay stalked Marco to Starbucks to try to make sure something happened between them.
Maybe, he is attracted to the confidence that Marco has to look, live, and walk the streets of NYC the way he does when he can't come out of the closet and even admit that he is gay?
I wonder what was EQUINOX's placement fee?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | July 3, 2023 8:52 PM |
[quote]Trish is a fabulous, savvy woman, has the same mannerisms, is an aging doyenne with a sly youthful spirit, and is very brass tacks no nonsense about her business. She also chose me over the lead colorist at the shop because I stopped to make her a cappuccino and asked her if she was OK. Apparently none of the cunts in the color department I worked with wanted to have anything to do with her.
You EVE!!!
by Anonymous | reply 150 | July 3, 2023 8:55 PM |
I’m also going to say when I was a club kid back in the 90’s, there were a TON of people just like Benny out in the scene, and they got LOTS of action, straight and gay. Twilo was my favorite mix of people.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | July 3, 2023 8:56 PM |
[quote]I willed my way through most of the show after a bout with insomnia last night. It truly is remarkably bad. It's not the nonbinary thing - which is super try hard, but never really bothered me. It's just so poorly written, conceived, and executed. From the character development to the plot to the "ticking time bombs" that don't seem to have any semblance to reality.
Well, I enjoyed seeing Zane Phillips in his speedo and the Equinox boy's bare ass...
by Anonymous | reply 152 | July 3, 2023 9:06 PM |
[quote]I am in the minority here, but I really liked this show,
No, you're not, honey. All of these Queens are watching and will break a stiletto heel stomping the ground in anger if season 2 doesn't happen. Now, they won't come out and publicly admit to that but the naysayers that you currently see here will be here for the next season too.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | July 3, 2023 9:16 PM |
Thank you, R153. You just cheered me up.
"Glamorous" was a fun romp. I'm not into guys like Marco/Miss Benny, but they were very good. I'm more into Chad/Zane Phillips or Parker/Graham Parkhurst. And they weren't one dimensional characters.
I enjoyed the diversity of the cast, too. "The Devil Wears Prada" never had that.
And Miss Benny and Zane Phillips did quite well with the "Chicago" number.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | July 3, 2023 10:01 PM |
I’ve watched three episodes but it already seems repetitive.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | July 4, 2023 2:27 AM |
In my day “kiki” meant a versatile lesbian. What does it mean now? They said it on the show but I could not infer from context.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | July 4, 2023 2:46 AM |
A kiki is a party For calming all your nerves We're spilling tea and dishing just desserts one may deserve
by Anonymous | reply 157 | July 4, 2023 3:15 AM |
Showtime picked up NPH’s UNCOUPLED after Netflix dropped it . Prediction on Season 2 delayed by Writers strike… I enjoyed Glamorous and hoping Netflix has the good sense to renew the series..
by Anonymous | reply 159 | July 4, 2023 7:07 AM |
The writers do a good job with dialog referencing gay culture but that is about it. The show has potential but suffers from 2 serious flaws: (1) The main character is awful, an annoying, over-the-top fem. The viewers should root for the main character. The only thing I rooted for him was his body under the wheels of a Manhattan bus. I thin the nerdy gay guy is a more appealing character with potential to lead the show; and (2) The show underused Kim Cattrall. She's the marquee actor but is given little to do.
I hope it is renewed but would welcome some retooling. Primarily, I'd get rid of Miss Benny.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | July 4, 2023 7:31 AM |
[quote]The main character is awful, an annoying, over-the-top fem. The only thing I rooted for him was his body under the wheels of a Manhattan bus.
Are you one of those that troll the DL threads stating that you are a liberal/Democrat/ whatever but in reality (and truthfully) you are a MAGAt, R160? Look... if you don't like the character and/or the show, then don't watch it. It's just that simple. I believe that one of the primary messages that the show is trying to convey and promote is the acceptance of others and oneself along with each individual living their life and being the best of who they are. The Marco character is who "they" are. I'm sure that there are viewers out there who can identify with the character. Always keep in mind the Gaga song "I Was Born This Way".
[quote]The show underused Kim Cattrall. She's the marquee actor but is given little to do.
Isn't she the Executive Producer? If so, then she is busy spending and making the money.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | July 4, 2023 10:55 AM |
Kim is the credited producer of 2 episodes. There is a busload of producers:
Dave Neglia ... co-producer (10 episodes, 2023) Ashley Skidmore ... co-executive producer (10 episodes, 2023) Todd Strauss-Schulson ... executive producer (10 episodes, 2023) Kim Cattrall ... producer (2 episodes, 2023) Devon Colbert ... associate producer (2 episodes, 2023) Justin W. Lo ... consulting producer (2 episodes, 2023) Jordon Nardino ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023) Frank Siracusa ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023) Kameron Tarlow ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023) Celeste Vasquez ... supervising producer (2 episodes, 2023) Mary Anne Waterhouse ... producer (2 episodes, 2023) Damon Wayans Jr. ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023) John Weber ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023)
by Anonymous | reply 162 | July 4, 2023 11:00 AM |
Glamorous got more intelligent and creative in the 2nd half of the season. The drag production number was hilarious and Zane was both game, and built like a brick shithouse and sexy. I also liked the MC at the Launch party and the "are you ready for" gay rights "journey" for the PR lady. It was bitingly clever and I forgave them saying queer instead of gay.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | July 5, 2023 3:11 PM |
So I watch this while I was doing housework and kind of got hooked to it. The lead character I agree is kind of annoying , ultimate Queen, the nail polish and heels kind of push it over the edge. Netflix is not foolish they know which demographic they need to go after. As in Bros the reality here is somewhat skewed, most Chelsea muscle boys we'll have absolutely nothing to do with someone who is not their physical equal. I continued watching it because at 64 I need a broader insight on what today's younger gay/trans/bi people are like. The storyline grew on me especially the love triangle involving the jock and the nerd. I wish this was on TV back in the late seventies when I was but a gay ling trying to find my way instead of having to rely upon After Dark magazine and my Ah Men catalog for representation examples.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | July 5, 2023 3:32 PM |
The nerd is played by a cute dancer/actor with a fabulous body. The pre-trans man just isn't that attractive and not because he is a queen. He could be a gorgeous queeny twink, but he's not. So not one, but two, attractive men are pining for him. And the trans guy is quite an asshole to his suitors.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | July 5, 2023 4:10 PM |
Ben Hsu Rosen killed that scene where they are rolling on molly and he starts dancing.
And Marco is an annoying asshole for a lot of the show, obviously they write him that way on purpose, but it does make it more frustrating for the audience as we are meant to root for him.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | July 5, 2023 4:18 PM |
[quote]As in Bros the reality here is somewhat skewed, most Chelsea muscle boys we'll have absolutely nothing to do with someone who is not their physical equal.
"Muscle boys" haven't been in Chelsea for quite some now, darling.
[quote]I continued watching it because at 64...
OH! That explains it. Never mind. Carry on with your viewing and research!
by Anonymous | reply 167 | July 5, 2023 5:36 PM |
I feel that Marco is more improbable than awful. Of course the writing didn't do him any favors. Not sure why the finance bro bf was all undone by Marco dressing fem when his friends were as queen scene as they come. Dialogue like "I wanted you from the moment I saw you" just had me rolling my eyes. The show needed more Cattrall being just...more.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | July 5, 2023 5:41 PM |
[quote]Not sure why the finance bro bf was all undone by Marco dressing fem when his friends were as queen scene as they come.
Hmm... Maybe because they wear pants and shoes and Marco wears skirts and heels?
by Anonymous | reply 169 | July 5, 2023 5:45 PM |
They had a trunk of drag accessories... It just would have made more sense if the friends were more like him
by Anonymous | reply 170 | July 5, 2023 5:49 PM |
[quote]Ben Hsu Rosen
Michael Hsu Rosen looked HOT in his underwear too!!!
by Anonymous | reply 171 | July 5, 2023 5:51 PM |
Some idle things that I have wondered about after watching the show...
-Has interest and traffic increased for the Patricia Field's store (hmm... I don't know if that store still exists) or interest in the fashions that Kim Cattrall wore as the character Madolyn Addison? AHA! I've answered that (see link). Marketing is on it!!!
-Is EQUINOX getting more interest or measurable data coming in that solidifies its reputation as a luxury gym (I believe it's now $300/month for an all-access pass but that excludes destination locations). I personally don't think that the show will help in attracting more gays to Equinox. While gay people are definitely there (not nearly in the numbers that once was), EQUINOX is a "been there, done that" experience for many gays. We're at David Barton's new gym U, Crunch, and various independent gyms now.
-Who will it possibly be that will play Chad's (Madolyn's son) father? I can't even think of anyone who I would like to see in the role and I'm trying to imagine what type I would like to see. So far, I've gotten as far as... tall.
-I LOVED how the show showed the "White-boy" dating the masculine Asian-boy (Joel Kim Booster who is 35, BTW) sans the stereotype tropes and looks. I just really dislike we gays many times but especially if I come across stuff such as; "No Asians", "No sushi" UGH!!!! and DOUBLE UGH!!!! HATE! HATE! HATE seeing that shit!!!
-I was looking forward to seeing Michael Hsu Rosen in a speedo. I guess he chose not to do that since he had already made an appearance in his underwear.
-With that in mind, I wonder if actors (around the same age as these guys) gay or straight and who might have or might not have taken these roles, look at these actors from an objective view (re their looks/body) and do a self-evaluation as to where they fit if comparing themselves to these actors.
-I'm not a fan of the big-boned, lipstick lesbian, girl, Jade Payton (Venetia). Sorry, I'm just not a fan. BUT, I really LOVE the dyke lesbian Ayesha Harris!!! I hope the show will utilize her more.
And, that's all for now!
by Anonymous | reply 172 | July 5, 2023 7:02 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 173 | July 5, 2023 11:11 PM |
this was just about the dumbest shit to ever get filmed
by Anonymous | reply 174 | July 5, 2023 11:21 PM |
It was dumb, romantic romp, cute and representing- all can be true at the same time.
Coming from two generations behind, I would equate it right on par with Jenny Livingston’s “Paris Is Burning”, in that looking in from the outside, just like the movie- this series seems sort of ridiculous premise on it’s surface, but later becomes an touchstone for what’s important for gay/queer kids nowadays. What impressed me was that they didn’t hold back on joking about things like Prep, AND that just Iike PIB, they used a huge medium like Netflix to broadcast gay culture, in a way that didn’t take itself seriously and casts different characters you root for and learn to like thier stories, rather than cookie cut characters. ESPECIALLY important visibility in this era of society, and I believe someone really had to fight to leave the episodes intact and strong.
The truth is that if Jennie hadn’t fought fiercely to get PIB made, all those wonderful people would’ve never been heard, and their stories lost and abandoned. Ballroom culture is wildly indebted to her even though they can’t STAND her!
Paris Is Burning was the reason I moved to NYC and realized there was an entire world of gay culture and happening outside my hometown. I think Glamorous does the very same thing with a much broader TV medium. It truly is the children that watch this, that change our course for the better. Especially the straight ones…
There’s definitely a voice and a tone, though I’d love to see some more solid writing happen.
I’m the previous poster hair colorist that dealt with Trish McEvoy, and she indeed had some beautiful guys into makeup working for her just like Benny and Marco- they would all shuffle down the elevator from her headquarters upstairs. They’d circle round her while I was doing her hair several floors down where my hair salon was located, across 57th from Tiffany’s. I think dealing with them day in and out made me respect femme boys a bit more, and let me tell you, those boys can carry on their own, fearless about wearing makeup in public, and really don’t need your help! LOL
The most fun was when they opened a temporary Chanel downstairs, their staff really knew how to throw a grand opening party on the Mezzanine level. Let’s just say those elevators got a lot of action after hours, hehe.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | July 6, 2023 12:27 AM |
makes its most important subject an afterthought.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | July 6, 2023 12:43 AM |
My partner and I are hate watching it. It's SO FUCKING STUPID AND LUDICROUS!
In what world would that hot blond guy be into Marco??
Does this cosmetics company have a Board of Directors? Because the only people who seem to be involved in any important business meetings and decisions are all Gen Z assistants, social media whores, and graphic designers.
It's so laughable.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | July 11, 2023 9:16 PM |
This show sucks.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | July 12, 2023 11:54 PM |
The lead is a boring dumb piece of trash. This is basically like a shittier version of "And Just Like That" - with gays standing in for the hags.
Utter garbage.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | July 12, 2023 11:59 PM |
Either he is a bad person to interview, or the host was trying to cram so much in during the short period.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | July 18, 2023 5:44 PM |
I haven't even watched it yet but this is Graham Parkhurst's first real project. It's not like he has ever had people interview him before.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | July 18, 2023 6:31 PM |
I finished watching. While it's nice to have so much footage to lust over Zane Philips over and over, I'd say the entire season lasted about 5 episodes too long. Very Ryan Murphy-esque, who always overstays his welcome, too.
"Marco is a top" has got to be the worst line in the entire series. Gurlina, please...
by Anonymous | reply 182 | July 21, 2023 11:02 PM |
R 82 "Marco is a top" has got to be the worst line in the entire series. Gurlina, please..."
That's the truth! Not only uber-fem, but actor and character are now trans. We're supposed to buy that the jock boyfriend is a bottom. Granted that people don't always follow the stereotype, but really?
by Anonymous | reply 183 | July 22, 2023 12:18 AM |
Just finished the season. (Has it been renewed?) I did come to care about Marco, but the dramatic turn of having him have been a girl all along seemed to undermine the premise that made him appealing, that he was a femme gay guy comfortable with who he was.
I think the core audience for this show is actually young teen girls, not gay or lesbian grownups.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | July 28, 2023 2:19 AM |
I made it through about an episode and a half and threw in the towel.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | July 28, 2023 2:20 AM |
Even the hot gays can't save this
by Anonymous | reply 186 | July 28, 2023 4:37 AM |
[quote]Just finished the season. (Has it been renewed?) I did come to care about Marco, but the dramatic turn of having him have been a girl all along seemed to undermine the premise that made him appealing, that he was a femme gay guy comfortable with who he was.
I think you might have something here. IMHO. I wonder if it would affect the show?
by Anonymous | reply 187 | July 28, 2023 10:05 AM |
R184 R187. "Just finished the season. (Has it been renewed?) I did come to care about Marco, but the dramatic turn of having him have been a girl all along seemed to undermine the premise that made him appealing, that he was a femme gay guy comfortable with who he was."
Agree completely. It's unfortunate that they went this direction, but I suppose it's because the actor is trans. I would much prefer the character be shown as a femme gay guy that is comfortable in his own skin rather than going down the hormone and surgery path.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | July 28, 2023 12:28 PM |
[quote]Agree completely. It's unfortunate that they went this direction, but I suppose it's because the actor is trans.
I don't know if the show purposely went that way. From the little that I have read (and who knows what is true or not) the actor surprised the production with this news and that the last show was a scramble to accommodate that news. So...
by Anonymous | reply 189 | July 28, 2023 12:37 PM |
So do the gay guy characters who were unbelievably hot for Marco become straight now?
by Anonymous | reply 190 | July 28, 2023 12:43 PM |
I abandoned about 6 episodes in.
What does this mean, Marco is a woman all along?
Marco was hiding the fact that she has a vagina and has been cosplaying as an effeminate man? (never had a dick?)
Marco has been an effeminate gay man and finally announces that he is she and trans, thus "a woman"?
by Anonymous | reply 191 | July 28, 2023 4:12 PM |
Just give Zane, Graham and Michael Hsu Rosen their own show.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | July 28, 2023 5:06 PM |
The latter, r191. But these girlinas seem a gender all their own, with little resemblance to actual women.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | July 28, 2023 5:17 PM |
Well this doesn't surprise me that Marco the character is trans. Big deal. The FATAL flaw of this show is that Marco is supposed to be this compelling seductive beauty and the actor is not all that attractive. The suitors are a few cuts above in attractiveness. This isn't even subjective. The actor is average looking.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | July 28, 2023 5:27 PM |
R194 and he (she) also doesn't have anything extra to counterbalance his averageness. He's not especially funny. Or smart. Or charming. Or talented. Or knowledgable. Or cunning. Or interesting. Or kind. Or empathetic.
The actor who played Ben should have been given the main role. Even a femme version of him would have made sooooo much more sense.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | July 28, 2023 6:23 PM |
Yes, and coup de grâce, he/she has a terrible voice.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | July 28, 2023 6:57 PM |
I've heard nothing but terrible reviews and it sounds like it would be a chore to watch it.
HOWEVER
I would watch a few minutes of scenes including this sort of business.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | July 30, 2023 4:13 AM |
He has a lopsided face and looks short, but he is sexy, R198
by Anonymous | reply 199 | July 30, 2023 5:14 AM |
I tried to watch this but couldn't. I gave it 2 episodes. Pity.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | July 30, 2023 5:24 AM |
Marco is a TOP??!!!
OH MY SIDES!!!
by Anonymous | reply 201 | August 3, 2023 3:22 AM |
R201 Don't worry, that'll change once he fully transitions.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | August 3, 2023 3:23 AM |
Michael Hsu Rosen was definitely the breakout star, sexy and a balance between gay and fem I like. Little cutie.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | August 3, 2023 9:23 AM |
Rosen is a professionally trained ballet dancer, and it shows.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | August 3, 2023 9:37 PM |
Zane Philips has tiny meat syndrome.
Must be why he looked 'roided up in this . He's very handsome but too muscular.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | August 3, 2023 10:05 PM |
Yesh we have enough pictures of Zane in underwear and speedos to know he isn't huge down there, but no guy has everything.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | August 3, 2023 10:08 PM |
Agree that the show obviously made Marco trans because the real life actor is trans, which does undermine what R184 said, but also who cares it’s fluff tv.
They just need more jokes, and to make the workplace feel more like a workplace rather than a high school.
I thought the best episode was the P town episode where it felt like the characters were in a more believable real life scenario, that office just seems so unrealistic,
by Anonymous | reply 207 | August 3, 2023 10:12 PM |
Netflix canceled Glamorous.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | December 5, 2023 9:54 PM |
Not surprising r208. The show was hardly a hit, either critically or commercially. And honestly the actor transitioning now complicates what the show is even about.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | December 5, 2023 11:04 PM |
R208 The only bad thing about this is less Zane Phillips on my screen.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | December 6, 2023 2:27 AM |
Oh... all those no-name actors are going to be without jobs... again.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | December 6, 2023 1:54 PM |