Here she is singing to her new Sam Smith flop tune. Dementia has totally set in.
Madonna hates fat people.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 2, 2023 4:17 AM |
People are like Narcissus staring at themselves in a phone instead of a pond.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 2, 2023 4:28 AM |
She's lost weight, and not just in the face and ass.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 2, 2023 4:34 AM |
Is that some kind of work out equipment behind her or a mobility scooter?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 2, 2023 7:07 AM |
She looks so much like a drag queen that Ron DeSantis is trying to ban her in FL
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 2, 2023 7:22 AM |
[quote]She's lost weight, and not just in the face and ass.
She does look thinner. Ozempic or filters?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 2, 2023 7:27 AM |
Is she rapping about Samsonite?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 2, 2023 7:42 AM |
It's not just that she longs to be young again... she wants to be a teeny bopper. I mean, this whole persona she's shopping at the ripe old age of 64 is just embarrassing. And this is why I'll pass on being rich and famous, and/or living in an LA bubble. She has made sure that there is nobody in her life who is going to tell her she's making a complete ass of herself.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 2, 2023 7:48 AM |
Are these the lyrics:
Now when I'm very good, and do as I am told,
I'm Mama's little angel and Daddy says I'm good as gold.
And when I'm very naughty, and answer back and sass
I'm Mama's little devil, and Daddy says I've got the brass.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 2, 2023 8:07 AM |
That's an offensively horrible, horrible song.
Madonna is putting so much ugliness out into the world now. Constant ugliness.
She has become so vapid and ugly and weird and talentless and insecure that it feels downright gaslight-y to anyone that was ever a fan. Like it makes one question one's memories of the past.
How is this the same charming, adorable girl who did Material Girl? How is this the same artist that put out the sophisticated Ray of Light album?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 2, 2023 8:43 AM |
I can't remember, has she ever done a duet that wasn't terrible?
I know it was a hit, but IMO, her duet with Justin Timberlake was one of her first very poor singles, and kind of the tipping point for the nosedive.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 2, 2023 10:00 AM |
Sex Dwarf Part 2: Bitch is Ghastly
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 2, 2023 11:29 AM |
The weird thing is with Madonna, what she's been doing these last few years is weird and ridiculous. However, what IS appropriate for an older, former pop/dance person? I can't picture her just calmly bopping around stage like a Cyndi Lauper or Belinda Carlisle or even the recent Janet Jackson stuff. It would seem fake for her to be that laid back. But this over the top "I'm still 25, bitches" stuff is painful to watch.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 2, 2023 11:36 AM |
R11 Does Sidewalk Talk count? I loved that song when I was a little kid!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 2, 2023 11:37 AM |
R10 Why is it horribly offensive? I don't even understand what she's saying for half of it, other than something about "split your banana."
It's stupid - but horribly offensive?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 2, 2023 11:38 AM |
What the hell is wrong with her? Seriously? Please diagnose her DL psychiatrists.
I always found her harsh, crass personality off-putting, but she seemed relatively smart and savvy. But there is nothing smart about her recent behavior. Comes across as completely nuts.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 2, 2023 11:58 AM |
Her protruding ass implants are absolutely grotesque
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 2, 2023 12:09 PM |
[quote]What the hell is wrong with her? Seriously? Please diagnose her DL psychiatrists.
She could have cognitive problems or substance abuse issues. Maybe both. She's always come across as a narcissist; they don't age well.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 2, 2023 12:12 PM |
She’s angry and exudes the same. I don’t know if it’s ugly but it sure isn’t appealing. Apparently few of her peers have much nice to say about her- comes across in her “work”. Can she smile?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 2, 2023 12:17 PM |
R16 Not horribly offensive. I said it was offensively horrible. As in so bad it's offensive to my sensibilities. As in "what is that offensive odor?" Offensively horrible = so shitty it's irritating.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 2, 2023 12:31 PM |
I remember my friends and I joked in the late 90s about Madonna performing Like a Virgin as a grandma. Well, it looks like that was prophetic because it looks like she's trying to recapture the Like A Virgin days--a song she supposedly hates.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 2, 2023 12:37 PM |
Her impact on LGBTQ rights, acceptance, progress, equality, etc., etc., is immeasurable. She was a hugely popular straight person who liked us. Remember, there was no one 'out' in the 1980s.
God bless Madonna.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 2, 2023 12:40 PM |
As soon as she started futzing with her lips, everything started going downhill. She could have done all the Botox, could have done fillers, lifts, and still looked more or less like her real self if she'd just left her lips alone. But when she started inflating her lips, something inside of her also changed. It would be fascinating to know which came first, the inner or the outer change.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 2, 2023 12:42 PM |
She's only going to get worse. Every old person in my family turns into a loud freak without filters who just embarrasses themself continuously.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 2, 2023 12:45 PM |
I'm with R23... It's fun to make bitchy and catty comments but save most of your wrath for our enemies- not our allies.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 2, 2023 12:49 PM |
Roseanne Barr was also an ally in the 1990s, r23 and r26.
Bill and Hil also didn't think we deserved equal rights with respect to marriage.
People change...some for the better, some not.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 2, 2023 12:53 PM |
[quote] Bill and Hil also didn't think we deserved equal rights with respect to marriage.
And neither did Obama and Biden. It’s politics. At least Bill got to stop them from passing a constitutional amendment. That would have been the end of gay marriage ever happening.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 2, 2023 5:38 PM |
Why is her voice so high now? It’s thin and annoying. She needs to smoke more. She was never a great singer but at least she didn’t sound like a child trying to sing. It’s just embarrassing and the lyrics she comes up with sound unbelievably juvenile.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 2, 2023 5:40 PM |
R28, I think it was in the 80s when Madonna said (in an interview) that her fat fans really grossed her out because they would always be so sweaty when they would approach her for autographs or something along those lines.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 2, 2023 5:49 PM |
What's that bitch talking about? She got something against Samsonite luggage?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 2, 2023 6:28 PM |
HER TOUR IS ON TRACK TO GROSS OVER A BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 2, 2023 6:34 PM |
I hope she takes her $1billion and retires. I cannot endure this once-mighty, revolutionary performer becoming a living caricature of herself.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 2, 2023 6:40 PM |
I was a fan, for a brief period, in the 1980s. I loathe selfish, obnoxious egomaniacs. She treats her fans with disdain and contempt. Madonna worshipers are masochists.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 2, 2023 6:48 PM |
I loathe stans of any entertainer. Stans (versus fans) will never accept any criticism of their idols, ever. Only the most delusional stan would enjoy this kind of behavior.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 2, 2023 6:50 PM |
At 20, she had the face she with born with. At 60+, she has the face she deserves.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 2, 2023 6:52 PM |
We all feel that way about fat people.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 2, 2023 6:53 PM |
R39 LOL I resemble that remark ...but am working on it
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 2, 2023 6:56 PM |
I’m not sure how so many can afford tickets to her show. Nosebleed seats are almost $400 for Vancouver. Bitch is crazy.
Oh, and Sam - watch out so Madge doesn’t suck out your life force. Look at what the bitch did to Britney. Now all she can do is twirl and speak nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 2, 2023 7:00 PM |
She’s truly a caricature of herself.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 2, 2023 7:13 PM |
R28, that isn't Madonna, that's 'Dita', the narrator of "SEX."
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 2, 2023 7:24 PM |
R14 - you’ve asked a good question. I think she could have allowed herself to age gracefully - like Helen Mirren, who has obviously had some work done, but not overly obvious work.
As to her performing persona, since she always recontextualized all sorts of musical styles and modes of self-presentation it would have been interesting to see her version of the older, bawdy broad cabaret performer. Somewhere between Mae West, Elaine Stritch, Rusty Warren/Dusty Towne, and Sophie Tucker/Bette Midler - now that would have meant embracing her age as well as a rather outmoded style of performing - but she might have been able to create something interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 2, 2023 7:30 PM |
Great thoughts, R44
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 2, 2023 7:33 PM |
Former fan, I’m just terribly sad by what she’s become the past 15 years. I’d feel sad for her but she’s living in her own bubble and seems quite content and probably can’t see that she’s become the kind of celebrity she’d likely have reviled in her younger days. That said, I guess who are we to judge? The world would be a boring place if we were all the same.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 2, 2023 7:35 PM |
Have you seen Helen Mirren’s 2023 face???
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 2, 2023 7:36 PM |
She was an insufferable cunt when she was coming up too. She just happened to have some hits in between and got famous for her Edgelord bullshit. I recall hearing her speak (back when I was quite young and stupid myself) and thinking how stupid she sounded. Like an uneducated, insecure twat trying to sound smart and edgy. The excessive working out was probably driven by deep seated insecurity too.
She's still the same.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 2, 2023 7:40 PM |
Garbage song.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 2, 2023 7:43 PM |
R47 - Mirren is now 78; at 64 she looked infinitely better than Madge does at the moment.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 2, 2023 8:08 PM |
[quote] Oh, and Sam - watch out so Madge doesn’t suck out your life force.
Honey, they've got plenty of life force to spare.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 2, 2023 8:40 PM |
That video clip at OP is entertaining but not for the right reasons.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 2, 2023 8:43 PM |
"Boy, watch what you say or I'll split your bah-nah-nah."
I don't know who this person is, but someone needs to tell them that not all boys have bah-nah-nahs! Like, they're a friend of Sam's and they don't know that??? #HeartsNotParts
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 2, 2023 9:03 PM |
[quote] that isn't Madonna, that's 'Dita', the narrator of "SEX."
You sound trans and retarded.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 2, 2023 10:32 PM |
R43, since Madonna herself has made many comments against fat people in public, I'm going to just assume Dita is (gasp!) Madonna.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 2, 2023 10:40 PM |
She wasn't even singing in that video.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 2, 2023 10:50 PM |
R56, you say that but where is your source?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 2, 2023 11:05 PM |
R23, yes but none of that diminished her anger and self absorption that is kind of toxic. She has become ugly both in appearance and character. And absolutely without a drop of humor.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 2, 2023 11:07 PM |
She's very shrewd. She's getting herself in shape and launching a very lucrative, worldwide legacy/oldies tour. She'll make a billion dollars. She knows how to do this.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 2, 2023 11:22 PM |
R56. And for those who don't want to click the image...
[quote] "It's always fat people too. They are the most unnattractive social outcasts, like really overweight girls or guys with lots of acne that follow me around and pester me. It's frightening because not only are they bothering me, but they're horrible to look at too."
I guess we know what Madge secretly thinks of Sam Smith now.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 2, 2023 11:32 PM |
R58, see r29.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 2, 2023 11:35 PM |
Madonna would take a shit in a bowl if it’d get her attention. Oh, wait.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 2, 2023 11:38 PM |
R64, that's how you know someone needs to be knocked down a peg. When they think shitting in a bowl will make them more popular and loved.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 3, 2023 12:13 AM |
In OPs video M looks an awful lot like Faye Dunaway in that 2018 Gucci train-wreck ad - but Faye was 15 years older.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 3, 2023 4:04 AM |
What’s with all the spazz hand gestures?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 3, 2023 4:09 AM |
Jazz hands!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 3, 2023 5:31 AM |
[quote] She's very shrewd. She's getting herself in shape and launching a very lucrative, worldwide legacy/oldies tour. She'll make a billion dollars. She knows how to do this.
The sad thing is you said this without a shred of irony as if you weren't already mocked in this very thread about making such wildly asinine statements (see: R34).
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 3, 2023 6:51 AM |
Madge is making Courtney Love look classier and classier as we roll on through the 21st century. Who would've guessed?
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 3, 2023 7:38 AM |
Yeah but at this point Madonna might be a better (or more frequent) guitar player than Courtney Love. Doesn’t that count for ANYthing?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 3, 2023 4:42 PM |
I’ve only just now watched the VERY brief clip linked at the OP.
THAT is what has got you people frothing with hatred and derision?!
Christ.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 3, 2023 4:44 PM |
Madonna can play 2 cords on a guitar. lol
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 3, 2023 5:37 PM |
I’m hardly “frothing with…” Rather she is angry, has made herself kind of ugly with cosmetic procedures and possesses not a drop of humor. Why would you want to see her show? I do love a whole pile of her music- but not her. She’s angry, self aggrandizing and even a victim. She even puts down her most loyal fans. Half a billion apparently hasn’t helped much. She’s kind of like Lauren Bacall was- not an iota of gratitude.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 3, 2023 5:38 PM |
R29 Links a 30+ year old interview to prove what a horrible person Madonna is, but we've all read much worse comments made about fat people here on Datalounge. We are all guilty of being assholes at some point in our lives, but Madonna, apparently, deserves to have her entire career achievements erased because of it.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 3, 2023 6:01 PM |
And one assumes even she knows how to spell ‘chords’, R73.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 3, 2023 6:05 PM |
My point, Charlie, is that the responses in this thread which are reactions specifically to the video posted at OP are not justified. From reading the replies, I assumed she’d posted an entire new song. It’s clearly meant to be a bit of a joke, not an actual song, not something to be taken seriously, and she actually looks better in that clip — with the exception of her lips— than she has in the last few years.
I’m not saying it’s a good piece of music or that the lyrics are well written, but it’s obvious she’s not presenting it as such, either, so the reactions in this thread to it are a bit silly.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 3, 2023 6:07 PM |
I also remember her not being kind to fatties. It’s shocking she has good things to say and Sam Smith.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 3, 2023 6:27 PM |
"singing"
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 3, 2023 6:29 PM |
If Madonna did not have constant lipo with a vacuum cleaner she'd be quite the fattie herself. She should be hanging out laundry to dry in some small Italian village in the hills outside of Naples.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 3, 2023 6:40 PM |
R77 - I do think most of the thread is based more on the last several years in total, not just the latest clip. I was never a huge fan of hers, but from the mid 80s through at least her Super Bowl performance she certainly knew how to put on a show and stay reasonably relevant in an industry where most careers last months not decades.
I suspect the hatred and derision are mostly cover for surprise, shock and frankly a bit of disappointment. I honestly always thought Madonna would find a more savvy, creative and interesting way to be an elder. Everything she did publicly in her life certainly led you to assume that outcome much more than the one that has actually transpired.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 3, 2023 6:40 PM |
R81, yes, it's accumulated frustration from beginning of the '10s, onwards. Divorcing Guy really fucked her up.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 3, 2023 7:17 PM |
That makes sense, R81 and R82. I feel the same way, though I haven’t been actively a fan of hers since I was a young gayling in the late 80s/early 90s. It’s disappointing.
But I still don’t see the OP’s video as anything other than an improvement, at least in terms of her appearance.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 3, 2023 7:52 PM |
R71 Madge can play a couple of chords, but even Courtney (who has always been a pretty limited guitar player) knows her way around a fretboard better. Granted, Courtney has not played live in years. She's pretty much mimed it/had her guitar buried in the mix ever since she released "Nobody's Daughter", but during Hole's heyday from 1991–1998, she was always playing live. Granted, it was always pretty rudimentary and punk-ish, but she at least had a distinctive jangly/frenetic strumming style going for her. Any time I've seen Madge playing guitar, it comes across as desperate and boring.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 5, 2023 2:51 AM |