Camilla WILL become the Dowager Queen

Will she have a dower house?

She was never “Duchess Camilla” she was “The Duchess of Cornwall”.

Queen Elizabeth never “passed away”. She died.

Prince William’s wife is The Princess of Wales. She hasn’t been “Kate Middleton” since their marriage in 2011.

If The King predeceases his wife she will be “Queen Camilla”. Her step-daughter in law will be “The Queen”. When King George VI died there were three queens: Queen Elizabeth II, known as “The Queen” through her reign, her mother Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (so called to avoid confusion with her daughter who was also called Elizabeth) and her grandmother Queen Mary.

You might want to exercise caution quoting an article in Cosmo that quotes an article in the Daily Mirror.

Dowager Queen actually sounds more powerful than just plain old Queen.

More like the Dowdier Queen.

⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️

Kate Simpleton.

Well done R2

Signed, sealed and delivered.

We are not amused.

Sounds like she has a hump.

She kinda does.

[quote] You might want to exercise caution

Says Queen Mary at R2.

I will zombie this thread as I just watched a video claiming that Camilla was extra mean and cut to Catherine.

If that is true, when Charles dies, I want King William to issue letters patent that the former Queen, will now be known as

Princess Charles, Camilla Windsor-Mountbatten Parker-Bowles

It would be in poor form to downgrade her like that, much as she sucks.

She might die first, you know.

True R12, but she hurt Catherine.

Good for Camilla. Dowagers always get the best lines.

When Charles dies, she will FINALLY get her comeuppance as the whore who broke up Diana's marriage.

Hope Wills is not kind to her, evil cow.

When Wills becomes King does he have the power to throw her out of Buckingham Palace? Can he strip her of her duties?

She will forever live on our hearts as the people's princess.

She never looked better than in OP photo.

OP with all due respect, you sound like a fucking idiot quoting that article.

Why do Americans who know nothing about the British Royal Family feel the need to share their stupidity with the rest of us?

What are Camilla’s children?: Prince Limbo of Some Such & Princess Limbo of Whoseywhatsey

Well, duh. Unless she dies first.

Why post the obvious? Are you Nuero Divergent, OP?

(Sorry if someone has already said this. Can't be bothered to read the thread)

R21 Can I bow to them???

R21 you’re very funny if you’re joking, absolutely clueless if not. It can be a challenge to differentiate in these threads.

[quote]Once Prince William becomes King, his wife Kate Middleton will take up the role of Queen Consort—and likely be known as either Queen Kate or Queen Catherine (depending on how fancy the vibes are). So, where does that leave Queen Camilla?

The real question is, where does that leave the Duchess of Sussex? Why doesn't the article discuss her potential elevation as well? Is it because she's black?

People seem to forget that "Queen Mother" was only used because having two queens named Elizabeth might have been confusing.

People also getting their panties in a twist over "consort" seem to forget the George VI's wife was known as "Queen Elizabeth" not Queen Consort Elizabeth (which she technically was). It seems very appropriate to have dropped the consort part in every day usage once Charles' reign was well underway.

[quote] The real question is, where does that leave the Duchess of Sussex? Why doesn't the article discuss her potential elevation as well? Is it because she's black?

What potential elevation? Becoming the ex-Duchess of Sussex?

r12, that's the point.

King Willam can finally get retribution from the woman who turned his father into a tampon and ruined his mother's life. And now that she has gone out of her way to attack Catherine, I hope she will be shown no mercy.

Princess Charles, Camilla Windsor-Mountbatten Parker-Bowles

is exactly as how history should view the great-granddaughter of Mrs. Kepple.

I'm a turd.

When I evolve a mouth I'm going to eat myself.

Why?

Because I deserve the worst.

r20, OP is long gone from a zombie thread I reanimated.

I reanimated it because of the release of a transcript of a conversation between Camilla and Catherine.

R24 one cannot have the Queen’s original issues be running around as lowly commoners. They would automatically ascend up to, at the very least, the Duke & Duchess of Crommonerwell.

Even Violet Crawley's father was a Baronet.

R34 a number of things:

In this case, the plural of “issue” is “issue”.

The Queen’s two offspring are already running around untitled, which seem to have impacted neither them nor the country.

Your attempt at humour failed, as usual.

Once they’re formally knighted as the Marquess and Marchioness of Whence, it all comes to bowing and and who exactly is “entitled” to bow to them.

Thank you, [R29].

Charles will NEVER be "king." He'll ALWAYS be "Prince Charles." So just get over it.

Camilla will be....whatever. One way or the other, an "also-ran."

Queen Prostitution Ho of Rottweiler.

R38's entire posting record on this account, reflecting someone/thing insisting that she controls reality and that we give a shit about her idiot opinions:

Camilla WILL become the Dowager Queen Thank you, [R29].

Charles will NEVER be "king." He'll ALWAYS be "Prince Charles." So just get over it.

Camilla will be....whatever. One way or the other, an "also-ran."

Can we talk about Prince? I could never get into him. It's not a question of his talent...but unlike, say, Little Richard, he never appealed to me. A dull thing to say, as I can't articulate why. But there it is.

Can we talk about Prince? I thought you'd like it, [R100].

Bradley Cooper is Gay Well, whoop-de-do!!!!!

I love the word "Dowager."

Trust me, once Charles croaks William will pack that old hag off and she'll rarely be heard from or about again. Charles will likely leave Highgrove to her so she'll be able to live in the lap of luxury for the remainder of her life. Of course, she may not want any public life after he's gone, as long as the money is there.

Both Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary outlived their husbands after Victoria, and went simply by the titles "HM Queen Alexandra" and "HM Queen mary" in the years remaining to them. Why wouldn't the same be done with regards to Queen Camilla?

R2...Thank you...Sister.

Technically, Camilla will be the Queen Dowager or the Dowager Queen. She will undoubtedly just be called Queen Camilla.

The referred to Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, as the Queen Mother because she was still comparatively young when she became a widow, and she shared a name with the Queen Regnant.

The British have never really used the term Dowager Queen. Both Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary were simply called that after their respective husbands' deaths.

The only widowed consort called "Dowager" (as I recall) was the Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna

I think she's fabulous, and will thrive even if/when widowed. She has her own interests apart from Charles'.

Nope, r42.

[QUOTE]As the property is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, control of the House was transferred to William, Prince of Wales, when his father acceded to the throne and he became Duke of Cornwall on 8 September 2022. The King rents the house from the Duchy to use as a country residence.

Camilla has her own stately home in Wiltshire, Ray Mill House, which has six bedrooms. She may well retire there when Charles dies.

But it would be very surprising if William V did not give her a very large grace-and-favor house if Charles predeceases her. they seem to get along fine, and Kate is said to be very cloxe to her. More important, it would look awful if she were the first dowager queen in modern times not to be given a grand house by the Crown. Queen Adelaide had multiple houses after William IV died, including Marlborough House, Bushy House, and several others. Alexandra also was given Marlborough House, and allowed to keep Sandringham until she died. Mary also had Marlborough house and was also allowed to live in Badminton House. And the Queen Mother was given Clarence House and Royal Lodge, and she also owned and refurbished the Castle of Tey.

Camilla will likely be allowed a large crown-owned London house (like Clarence House) and given a crown-owned country house should Charles die before her.

R48 Queen Mary lived in Badminton as a guest during WW2 as her niece was chatelaine of the House, being married to the Duke of Beaufort. She apparently arrived with 78 staff and the Duke and Duchess were reduced to living in two rooms while Aunt May and the retinue took over the rest, which I think was rather fabulously Queeny.

The late Queen Mother’s house in the far north of Scotland is Castle of Mey, not Tey. I’m not sure if she left it to Charles or if it’s part of the Duchy of Cornwall in which case it’s now William’s.

Wherever Camilla ends up I’m sure that she’ll be happy with a roof over her head, an ottoman for putting her feet up, an open fire for the dogs and a G&T in one hand and a fag in the other, and good for her!

R44, prior to their marriages, both Alexandra and the daughter of Fat Mary were Royal Princesses of the blood.

Camilla is the commoner great granddaughter of a Royal Whore who has earned Williams ire.

She will end in tears

Wrong as usual, R50 - Queen Mary, as the grand daughter of a morganatic marriage, was born a Serene Highness, not Royal.

As far as William’s “ire” - how do you know? Did he tell you?

I insist that Camilla must be called The Dowager Queen...or perhaps the Dowager Duchess of Cornwall, which is what she should have been called all along.

It was Elizabeth herself who designated that Camilla become known as Queen (without the Consort) when she herself died.

Re Queen Mother, it’s ALWAYS used for the prior Queen (if living) when a son or daughter ascends the throne. Queen Mother Elizabeth would have been called that even if her daughter had a different name. Queen Mother Mary was the title of Bertie’s Mother when her husband died and Bertie’s wife came Queen. However, Mary outlived Bertie (King George the 6th), and I’m not sure what happened when the new queen’s mum had to become Queen Mother Elizabeth.

Wrong on pretty much everything, R53. There was no “Queen Mother Mary”. She was “The Queen” until her husband died when she was titled “Queen Mary”.

Her daughter in law was “The Queen” until her husband died, after which she was formally known as “Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother”, only to avoid confusion with her daughter, also called Elizabeth. “Queen Mother” was not “ALWAYS used for the prior Queen”.

In the Royal household, Queen Elizabeth II was always known as “The Queen” while her mother was always known as “Queen Elizabeth”.

Don’t make stuff up, you only make yourself look stupid.

What's the issue with Camilla and Catherine? Is there a link? Sorry if I missed it above.

[quote]Queen Mary, as the grand daughter of a morganatic marriage, was born a Serene Highness, not Royal.

Well, considering that Her Serene Highness, Princess Grace of Monaco, gave birth to a Prince and Princesses, she met the "blood Royalty" standard that Fat Mary passed. Her daughter was a Princess of the Blood. Victoria would have approved. Drina's mother would have also approved a marriage to a German Princess no matter how minor.

Bottom line, Former Queen Camilla will be fucked.

There is no link because the poster pulled that story out of his arse, R55.

Back to OP, there is no chance that William's wife will be Queen Kate. She will absolutely be Queen Catherine.

It was a video of the transcript on Face Book. I have no idea how to retrieve it.

What a great source!

No, R56, you’re wrong again. There are more non-royal princes and princesses than there are royal ones. Just being a prince doesn’t make someone a royal prince.

Albert II, Prince of Monaco has been known to correct interviewers who refer to the “Royal family of Monaco” with “Princely family, not royal”.

Perhaps you know better than he about how these things work?

As I said - don’t make stuff up, you only make yourself look stupid.

[quote]As I said - don’t make stuff up, you only make yourself look stupid.

As an American, I don't slice the Royal celebrity down to the Serenity.

All the same.

Tell us more about William’s “ire” with his stepmother, R56. If he didn’t tell you personally then a link will do.

Oh god R62, it’s always a laugh when someone who knows nothing trots out “as an American” as if that gives some imprimatur to some bullshit.

You’ve been caught out you silly twit - you could at least grow a pair and own it.

I miss Title Troll.

r64, you are all in high dudgeon because American lump all of your Royal Highness bullshit in one bug celebrity lump.

Meghan is Camilla without the hat, crown, whatever.

Nobody dies anymore. They pass away. To heaven or hell. As if traveling on a cloud or falling down a chute.

Here is a tutorial for all of us Queens...