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Ten Commandments bill dies in TX House!

From KUT Austin:

A bill that would have required Texas public schools to display the Ten Commandments in classrooms is likely dead after missing a key deadline in the state’s House of Representatives.

Senate Bill 1515 did not come up before the midnight deadline for Senate bills to get an initial vote on the House floor. This effectively kills the bill, although there is always the chance the language could be tacked onto another measure before the 88th legislative session ends Monday.

SB 1515 sought to have the Ten Commandments displayed in a “conspicuous place” in elementary and secondary classrooms. It would have required the display to be at least 16 inches wide and 20 inches tall, with a typeface large enough so someone with “average vision” could read it from anywhere in the room.

State Rep. James Talarico has been an outspoken critic of the legislation. The Austin Democrat, who is a member of the Texas House Public Education Committee, voted against the bill when it got a public hearing early this month. His questioning of the bill’s House sponsor, state Rep. Candy Noble, R-Lucas, went viral on social media at the time.

Noble, for her part, described the Ten Commandments as “foundational to our American education system.”

Talarico touted the bill’s failure to get to the House floor in time as a win for “religious liberty and the separation of church and state.” He added that while the Ten Commandments are important to him as a Christian, the bill is exclusionary.

“For 40 years, the Religious Right has used ‘faith’ to push hateful, exclusionary legislation — like a state-level ban on gay marriage, the most extreme abortion ban in the nation with no exceptions for victims of rape or incest, and even bills to restrict access to basic contraception,” he said in a statement. “Now, this same movement is trying to force Christian Nationalism onto the children of this state — without their consent or the consent of their parents.”

Words: Becky Fogel Photo: @cperezgabriel

by Anonymousreply 24July 20, 2025 9:23 PM

While good news, don't hold your breath. It's Texas. Where there's a will, there's a way, and they are hell-bent on dragging the country back a hundred years or more.

by Anonymousreply 1May 26, 2023 4:09 PM

You won’t get any argument from me - I’ll just take any sliver of good news right now.

by Anonymousreply 2May 26, 2023 4:51 PM

My God (no pun intended). Scary. I worked for a state legislature before. Looks like this senate bill made it through the senate and was crossing over into the House for approval. Thank God the legislators in the House let it die.

I'm not sure if that's how it works in Texas. Scary that the bill made it out of the Senate (approved by Senate).

by Anonymousreply 3May 26, 2023 5:03 PM

Scary times R3, but conservatives are still not as powerful as they want you to think they are.

by Anonymousreply 4May 26, 2023 7:42 PM

The real question is : Which version of the Ten Commandments should be posted, since there are two. With some differences. Deuteronomy indicates that everyone is a sinner if they disobey this one:

Keep the Sabbath day . . . you shall perform no labor, neither you, your son, your daughter, your manservant, your maidservant, your ox, your donkey, any of your livestock, nor the stranger who is within your cities, in order that your manservant and your maidservant may rest like you. And you shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and that the L-rd your G‑d took you out from there with a strong hand and with an outstretched arm; therefore, the L-rd, your G‑d, commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

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by Anonymousreply 5May 27, 2023 12:56 AM

[quote]Scary times [R3], but conservatives are still not as powerful as they want you to think they are.

They are if no one has the balls to push back. Looking at you, Dems.

by Anonymousreply 6May 27, 2023 12:57 AM

Why is it always the Ten Commandments and never the Beatitudes?

by Anonymousreply 7May 27, 2023 1:03 AM

Can we install the Quran then?

by Anonymousreply 8May 27, 2023 1:34 AM

But that's the point R6, they talk as if they were 100% of the American population, but Texas is still 47% (or 48%) Democrat. The red wave of 2022 did NOT happen and Joe Biden is the most voted politician of the USA ever, followed by Barack Obama.

Republicans want you to think that all independents are angry right-wingers and that all states will turn red, that Americans can't stand democrats and that there's nothing you can do to stop them and that they'll win every presidential election.

Don't fall for that trap, they are lot less powerful than that and a lot let powerful than they wish they were.

by Anonymousreply 9May 27, 2023 8:52 AM

Texas has gone to shit ever since Ann Richards lost the governors seat to George W Bush. Elections have consequences. It's been downhill ever since. I see zero change of turnaround or redemption.

by Anonymousreply 10May 27, 2023 4:07 PM

“Thou shalt not kill” was too controversial for them.

by Anonymousreply 11May 27, 2023 5:33 PM

A future Democratic governor of Texas?

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by Anonymousreply 12June 17, 2023 11:48 PM

From R12: "'This bill to me is not only unconstitutional, it’s not only un-American, I think it is also deeply un-Christian,' he told her, as she stood motionless. 'And I say that because I believe this bill is idolatrous. I believe it is exclusionary. And I believe that it is arrogant, and those three things, in my reading of the Gospel, are diametrically opposed to the teachings of Jesus.'"

Am I supposed to feel all warm and fuzzy about a politician saying something like this on the floor of a state capitol building, just because he's a Democrat and holds the allegedly-"liberal" position on an issue? Because I really, really don't. Leave your religion out of our government and out of our public schools, period.

by Anonymousreply 13June 18, 2023 12:07 AM

You don't have to, R13.

But would you have preferred that the bill passed?

by Anonymousreply 14June 18, 2023 12:19 AM

Would you rather republicans continue to be in complete control of Texas state government?

by Anonymousreply 15June 18, 2023 12:24 AM

You find that appropriate on the floor of a statehouse, huh, R14? "Un-Christian... Idolatrous... Gospel... Jesus..."

R15, fighting fanaticism with fanaticism is not my idea of living in a free and democratic society, no. And I am anything but a "purist".

by Anonymousreply 16June 18, 2023 12:29 AM

[quote] fighting fanaticism with fanaticism is not my idea of living in a free and democratic society

It's not optimal, but it may what it takes to win in a ruby red state.

by Anonymousreply 17June 18, 2023 12:38 AM

Why post something you just violate every day of your life?

by Anonymousreply 18June 18, 2023 12:49 AM

"It's not optimal"

"Not optimal", R17? When you condone this from a Democratic politician, you remove our ability to criticize it when Republican / conservative politicians do it. You remove our right to live free from others' religions.

"...but it may what it takes to win in a ruby red state."

Do you neo-Libs care about ANYTHING but "winning"? Can't you see how short-sighted it is to betray the Enlightenment values this country was founded upon to win one state for the short-term?

by Anonymousreply 19June 18, 2023 1:21 AM

Now, if there are any school shootings, we will definitely know it's because the Ten Commandments were not displayed. Guns don't kill; the lack of the Ten Commandments does.

by Anonymousreply 20June 18, 2023 1:50 AM

I gave you 15 Commandments, douchebags.

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by Anonymousreply 21June 18, 2023 1:51 AM

This guy is great. He's a Christian so magats can't attack him for that but a democrat. Hopefully, he has a long career.

by Anonymousreply 22July 20, 2025 7:03 PM

I think even Texas realize how stupid this bill was.

It was all for show.

Texas is full of dumbasses.

What a shit state. Fuck them.

I'd never step foot in that putrid state, so I couldn't care less about them and their stupid laws.

by Anonymousreply 23July 20, 2025 7:18 PM

[quote]“Thou shalt not kill” was too controversial for them.

I think they would be able to find another way to teach the rules that apply to a secular society, like don't kill, don't steal, don't lie, don't commit adultery.

by Anonymousreply 24July 20, 2025 9:23 PM
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