The Lucille Ball Gary Morton Thread

He was satan.

Isolated her from her old friends.

Incredibly controlling.

One of just a couple folks Carole Cook couldn’t stand, and she has a kind word about everyone.

But he learned to love the bitch r1!

Lucille looking snatched at OP's pic!

Aw,,,..young love

What a lovely young woman she is...

Gary was one of the great sages in Hollywood, Lucy owes the last twenty-five years of her career to him. He talked her out of several 'risky' and 'risque' project that would have tarnished her image. He steered the ship!

R5 Which risqué projects?

R6, Dressed to Kill (the Angie Dickinson part!), The Graduate (Mrs. Robinson), Don't Look Now (the Julie Christie role) just off the top of my head and there were others...I know he also talked Lucie out of doing Body Heat (the Kathleen Turner role)

R7 Wow never knew that

Vivian Vance was neighbors with Eileen Heckert in Connecticut in the 1960s. In his bio of his mother, Just Outside the Spotlight: Growing up with Eileen Heckart, Luke Yankee talks about a night his parents visited Vivian and her husband John Dodds; Lucille and Gary were visiting as well. Lucille had too much to drink and at one point turned to Eileen and said, "Who the fuck knows Eileen Heckert? I could make you a household name!"

Elieen responded that she would have to move to the West Coast, and her husband worked in Connecticut.

Gesturing across the room at Eileen's husband, Lucille replied, "So we'll make him an executive at Desilu. Husbands are expendable!" At that point, Eileen and her husband left.

The next day, Vivian called Eileen very apologetic for Lucille's behavior.

I was watching Postcards from the Edge on TCM last week and forgot that Gary had a small role as Meryl's manager in it.

Every morning Lucy would burnish up Gary's skin with Lemon Pledge.

R8, they’re joking.

Gary may have been difficult, but his prudence saved Lucy’s legacy over and over.

Lucy would have made a questionable Klute, but only Gary Morton was telling her no at a time when she was surrounded by nothing but yes men.

Lucie Arnaz said that she doubted there was much passion between Lucy and Gary.

Gary Morton could at times be too cautious. I, for one, would like to have seen Lucy’s interpretation of Cap’n Quint, the role in Jaws that eventually went to Robert Shaw after Gary’s meddling finally broke down negotiations with Spielberg.

Lucy was also the producers first choice for Marlon Brando's role in "Last Tango in Paris"

Producers were really hoping Lucy would agree to play Sandy in Grease. Lucy was excited by the part and the chance to play opposite John Travolta. But well, as you know, Gary talked her out of it. So, Olivia Newton John stepped instead.

She's a mess.

Lucy was supposed to be part of the moon landing, but guess who put a damper on that…

What about the time Gary talked her out of doing “Deep Throat”?

Lucy was set to play the Drew Barrymore part in ET: the Extra-Terrestrial, but Gary talked her out of it.

Lucy was set to play Mame Dennis, but ...

He was 13 years younger than Lucy and signed a prenup to prove he wasn't a gold digger.

Long over due thread, OP. I’ve had a terrible day and this perked me right up.

They and that photo all look so...ambitious and angst-filled.

Lucy was hoping to find a new generation of fans when she signed on to play Princess Lea in the first Star Wars movie. But, you know, Gary did that thing he does.

I'll bet they never asked Lucy to pose for the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, did they?

Roasted.

Lucy loved Desi and cigarettes more than Gary.

Lucy trained for over a month in preparation for working on The Deep with Nick Nolte. Eventually Gary talked her out of it and the part went to Jacqueline Bisset. But at least she earned her scuba certification, and in later years would volunteer with the Coast Guard search and rescue team as her schedule permitted.

God I love DL

Lucille was slated for the female lead in "Basic Instinct" but then she died and the role wss then given to Sharon Stone. Gary was relieved he didn't havs to talk her our of it.

I'm Gary's wig hat.

But he didn’t talk her out of MAIM.

At a dinner in the early 1970’s, author Alex Haley discussed the television adaptation of his book Roots and said he wrote it with Lucy in mind for several of the lead roles but Gary talked her out of it.

Cunta Kinte

Gary also didn't talk her out of Star Trek. Probably because neither really understood what it was about

Lucy would have been great in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, but Liz and Dick talked her out of it

Lucille called the shots. She used Gary as an excuse to turn down offers. (It’s just a hunch.)

Lucy treated everyone like an employee including her husband

Gary Morton married a golfer after Lucy died but there is not a single picture of them together.

R9 I love to think about Heckhart's eventual Academy Award win in 1973, after reading that.

Lucy felt entitled. No one wants to be around that kind of gal.

The one time Gary should have talked Lucy out of it...

"Actually Burton, appalled as he was by Lucy’s insistence on giving him line readings, acted like a gentleman for most of the week. He complimented Gale Gordon and expressed sympathy for the second banana, Cliff Norton. That comedian was indignant because Gary Morton had tried to cut his salary—the Burtons had consumed too much of the budget, he said. Only once did Burton become irascible, and then he did it privately, advising director Jerry Paris to warn Lucy that if she tried to pull any rank on Elizabeth “she would see, in person, what a Thousand Megaton Hydrogen Bomb does when the warhead is attached and exploded.”

R14 This was a companionship marriage, not a passionate one -- like they are for many older ladies.

The time Desi tried to talk Lucy out of Mame...

"All these years, Lucy had relied on Desi’s advice, but this time when he told her to pass on the role she ignored him"

Where's Gary when you need him 😠

I'm so glad that Mr Morton was able to talk Lucy out if taking the role of Kizzy in A Haley's ROOTS. That guy had great instincts! Imean - can you imagine?

I heard they had a fight in their hotel room and Gary locked her out of it.

Sorry to inject some reality into this thread but sadly, few people remember Gary's performance in "Lenny" where he played Milton Berle. He was really, really good.

^ As mentioned above he was good in "Postcards". Unfortunately Gary was happy being a lazy gigolo who'd rather play golf than act

R49 R50 Morton was probably a much better actor than comedian. Of course, those noted parts probable weren't too much a stretch from his real self.

Gary Morton certainly was tanned.

Did he really pimp off of Lucy though?

Barbara Walters interview with Lucy and Gary.

[quote]Dolly Pardon

Oh, dear.

The first time they had sex, Lucille reportedly explained, "You call THAT hung?!"

[quote]Dressed to Kill (the Angie Dickinson part!), The Graduate (Mrs. Robinson), Don't Look Now (the Julie Christie role) just off the top of my head and there were others...I know he also talked Lucie out of doing Body Heat (the Kathleen Turner role).

I know everyone’s riffing on this comment, but a sincere “thank you” to Gary for preventing 4 great films to be ruined.

I can kind of see her in the Mrs. Robinson part.

Wasn't slutty Lucy engaged to another man before hooking up with Desi?

Pre-Desi, they pulled more babies out of her than a burning orphanage.

Lucy was originally cast opposite Hayley Mills as the cool American twin in “The Parent Trap,” but of course evil Gary struck again.

Gary did allow her to do "Stone Pillow."

@r59, "Wasn't slutty Lucy engaged to another man before hooking up with Desi? "

"Yet Ball also was not faithful, as she engaged in affairs with others, including the Oscar-winning star Henry Fonda.

“She started out as ‘the Jamestown Hussy’ [a nickname] at 16,” said Porter, referring to Ball’s years going up in upstate New York. “Lucille really liked men. She’d say, ‘I’m always falling in love, I can’t help myself.’ ”

Ball is said to have had a voracious sexual appetite, and she enjoyed having affairs with others to get back at Arnaz for his dalliances.

Ultimately, affairs and distrust defined the marriage between Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz.

Ball even filed for divorce from Arnaz in 1944, but he was able to get her to change her mind.

“He knew the way to prevent the divorce would be to go home and throw her into bed,” said Porter. “They had their mad love affair, and sex had a great deal to do with their relationship.

Ball would later bragged to their “I Love Lucy” co-stars Vivian Vance and William Frawley about their “great sex. She always bragged on her Cuban stud. And he thought she was a ‘hot little number.’”

Lucy sounds like a Gay man trapped in a woman's body 😏

[quote]Lucy was originally cast opposite Hayley Mills as the cool American twin in “The Parent Trap,” but of course evil Gary struck again.

Lucy wasn't naturally funny and had little self-awareness of what audiences expected from her...

She also wanted to play Patty Duke's British cousin Cathy on "The Patty Duke Show"...

As Lucy said, "We'll just use a little more Vaseline on the lens and some extra surgical tape and clips under my wig - I can't easily pass for a teenager!"

R63, Darwin Porter cut salacious stories from whole cloth.

I don't for a second believe that Lucy ever cheated on Desi. She was far too traditional and conservative.

Too bad that Gary didn't talk Lucy out of that piss poor last sitcom. They didn't even air all of the episodes.

[quote] I don't for a second believe that Lucy ever cheated on Desi. She was far too traditional and conservative.

Traditional and conservative people cheat all the time. Just like how celebrities get plastic surgery all the time.

^ Exactly, Lucy sounds like a card-carrying, two-faced Republican

Something else I read that right before he married Lucy, Desi took Ginger Rogers to Canada for a late-term abortion 😳

Hollywood is just trailer-trash with money

I wonder if Lucy missed that juicy Cuban pinga?

Lucy was the last person Desi talked to before he died. They never stopped loving each other

r72 = Aaron Sorkin

^ Aaron Sorkin could never write so consisely or coherently...

I'm not Aaron Sorkin

- r72

[quote]The first time they had sex, Lucille reportedly *explained,* "You call THAT hung?!"

Doesn't seem like the sort of remark that would require a lot of explanation.

Oh, dear myself r76

R56 Lucy actually put her cigarette out on the tip.

I don't know if it's in that Roast clip above......but I liked it when one of the comics said:

"Gary brought something to Lucy's life that she never had with Desi......Boredom!"

[quote] I can kind of see her in the Mrs. Robinson part.

Really? I can’t imagine her trying to seduce Dustin Hoffman in that raspy, ashtray voice of hers. Yuck.

Originally, the part of Carol Anne in Poltergeist was to be played by Lucy as a loony, kooky Grandma if the family. Unfortunately, she lost the role when Gary insisted to the producers that the famous "They're HEEEeeere" line be replaced with "HeeeEERE'S LUCY!"

[quote]Ball even filed for divorce from Arnaz in 1944, but he was able to get her to change her mind.

So Gary wasn't the only one who could talk her out of things.

I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft.

@r82, Lucy loved any man who could talk her out of her panties

Or woman, r84

[quote] Really? I can’t imagine her trying to seduce Dustin Hoffman in that raspy, ashtray voice of hers. Yuck.

The relationship between Mrs. Robinson and Benjamin was supposed to have been sordid and shameful. Even though Benjamin said that being with Mrs. R was something he looked forward to. Hence, IMO, I think Lucille Ball could have played that part -- broken-down woman getting down-low action from close friends' son. I can see her being married to the "Plastics" guy (Murray Hamilton, Mr. Robinson).

Lucy was fucking amazing in the original Planet of the Apes as Reverend Minerva, the simian spiritual leader. She really brought across the character’s combination of piety, duplicity, and unbridled hatred for humans. It was fascinating to see a chimp in a Pucci priestess getup smoking unfiltereds through an ostentatiously long, ornate cigarette holder. And the scene where she calls Charlton Heston a “pink little worm” in her unmistakable raspy voice and orders him to sing a twisted hymn to orangutan superiority was both terrifying and highly unsettling to fans of the Lucy Carmichael character she was contemporaneously playing on Here’s Lucy.

Gary saw the rushes and ordered they be burned, but a damaged bootleg went up on YouTube briefly a few years ago before his estate had it taken down. Absolutely mesmerizing.

Gary lit Lucy's cigs and earned his oats.

Rate costume test from “The Graduate” before she was replaced by Anne Bancroft:

^^Rare costume test.

All of these "Lucy was asked to play . . . " posts are less funny than any episode of "Here's Lucy."

Hardly.

@r91, Don't quit your day job the market for low level snark has dried up like your pussy 😏

She was a mean nasty bitch on the set of Mame....a righteous flop.

When All In The Family went on the air in 1971 Lucille Ball HATED the show and wanted it take off the air in spite of Carolyn Appleby's appearance as Mrs. Stonehurst in 1971.

Lucy was fucking leading man Keith Andes during the Broadway run of Wildcat.

The first time Lu saw Gary's cock, she threw her cup of coffee on it, and said You call this hot?

Lucy was the leading choice for the 70s remake of A Star is Born. It would have been an exciting choice for her. A woman who was a shitty actress playing a woman who had the talent to actually become a great actress….

She was a whore, darlin'.

Cesar Romero revealed that he sucked Desi’s cock in Playboy and that Lucy thought Desi was gay when they first met and tried setting Cesar up with him.

The night before Lucy was filing for divorced back in the 40s, Desi fucked her. He woke up to find her getting dressed and asked where she was going. She told him that she had to get to court to file for divorce.

Keith Andes’ cock.

Ginger Rogers’s mother encouraged Lucy to put out for parts. She was Lucy’s acting coach.

@r100,... And then 12 year old Gary talked her out of it 🙄

She eventually found work as a model, and as she sought acting roles, received advice from Lela Rogers — mother of her good friend Ginger Rogers — that she would later follow.

“If you want to be a star within two years, get auditioned on the casting couch,” Lela told her. “That’s the advice I gave my own daughter.”

^ I'd say Lela was right. Has any successful actress made it without a stop at the casting couch?

[quote]I'd say Lela was right. Has any successful actress made it without a stop at the casting couch?

Marie Dressler, probably.

[quote] "I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft."

I don't know about that, but I would've loved for Vivian Vance to have picked up an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress later on in her career. Just to help her stand out from Lucy a little more (and I think Vivian was the better dramatic actress) And also because I think she was fully capable of that calibre of performance.

R104, Lela Rogers “dated” J. Edgar Hoover.

Between I LOVE LUCY and THE LUCY SHOW and after WILDCAT - Frank Sinatra wanted Lucy for the role of Mrs. Iselin in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.

I really think she would be have been great - although Angela Lansbury made the role her own - showing a dangerous side of her personality that had not been on display on film since that dumb movie she made with Henry Fonda where she played a mean girl.

Desi and Lucy were both whores. Whores shouldn't expect each other to be anything but whores.

Dick Cavett interviews Lucie Arnaz, Carol Burnett, then Lucille Ball. Lucie was 19, so Lucille would have been around 59. Carol was around 37.

[quote]"I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft."

I don't think the character of Mrs. Robinson was conceived as a middle-aged dishwater blonde.

Imagining Lucille as Martha in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? is an exciting thought. She'd have been great. She also should have probably played Dolly in Hello, Dolly instead of trying to do Mame. She'd have been able to handle the score better and would have been more age appropriate.

She was always in love with Desi. Many of us have had relationships and affairs like this. It's impossible to live with them and we know it's best to break things off, but they take a piece of our hearts with them and we never get it back. She tried the excitement with Desi and tried the more traditional boring marriage with Gary. I'm sure there were aspects of both she liked, but the creative union between Lucy and Desi gave us some wonderful years of entertainment.

I wonder when the last time Lucy had sex in her life was.

Lucille Ball was not a dramatic actress.

End of story.

I would have love to sit on Gary's mug.

[quote]She also should have probably played Dolly in Hello, Dolly instead of trying to do Mame. She'd have been able to handle the score better and would have been more age appropriate.

I assume this is meant to be a joke. She would have decimated the score of "Hello, Dolly!" the same way she croaked out the songs in "Mame." Each number was compiled from multiple takes, and they still sounded like shit.

When my mom worked for Philco-Ford, they gave her and her coworkers tickets to see MAIM. She said that it wasn’t bad, but that Lucy was not the best singer. The actress who portrayed Miss Gooch showed up in an episode of GOOD TIMES. Mom was so happy about spotting her for some reason…

Carole Cook dubbed a lot of Lucy's singing on her TV shows.

If Carol Channing could sing the score for Dolly, Lucy could do it. The keys were raised and the songs were rearranged once they had Streisand to make the role more of a musical powerhouse. The original Broadway score isn't as tough a sing as Mame.

Lucy. Could. Not. Sing.

Period.

[quote]Between I LOVE LUCY and THE LUCY SHOW and after WILDCAT - Frank Sinatra wanted Lucy for the role of Mrs. Iselin in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. I really think she would be have been great - although Angela Lansbury made the role her own.

Made the role her own? Angela Lansbury is fucking brilliant as Mrs. Iselin and should have won a supporting Oscar.

Lucy’s cremains were originally interred in a little, unassuming spot labelled MORTON at Forest Lawn, Hollywood Hills, but then Lucie and Desi Jr. had her moved to the Ball family plot in Jamestown, NY, with a heart-shaped monument that more suitably commemorates her as a TV legend. Does anyone know why she chose to be interred in a tiny, hard-to-find niche in California, with the Morton name looming over hers?

R123, She was Mrs. Morton longer than she was Mrs. Arnaz.

Her voice became so low and gravelly. She looked older than her age. However, Lucie seems to love her. So, I'm assuming she did a decent job at being a mom.

For the love of god, stop quoting Darwin Porter. He's a slovenly obese ancient gurleen in WEHO who writes faux stories about dead celebs. Vile.

[quote]She was Mrs. Morton longer than she was Mrs. Arnaz.

Actually, R124, she was “Lucille Ball” most of her life and through both marriages. My point is: why was she not the headliner on her grave in Forest Lawn? I think that’s partly why her kids relocated her remains to the family plot in NY, under a headstone marked BALL.

I still find it hilarious they used the grape squelching scene in Pretty Woman, apparently as an erotic visual appetizer. Gere oozes sleaze in that scene.

R127, In seeking the necessary court order to have her mother’s remains moved from California to New York, Lucie explained that her mother always enjoyed the change of seasons in the east.

Which begs the question . . . Why was Lucy laid to rest in California initially? Yes, she died unexpectedly, but given her age, her funeral/burial plans must have already been decided.

r129 reminds me: when Vivian Vance was dying, someone asked what she wanted to be done with her cremated remains. She replied, "Oh honey, I don't care. Surprise me!"

R127, that was a nice cemetery. I doubt Gary paid for or chose anything. Or maye the kids ordered Ball, and Gary talked them out of it.

R131, Gary remarried a golf pro not that long after Lucy died and moved to Palm Springs.

After Gary died, Lucie was involved in an ugly court battle with Gary’s widow over some possessions of her mother’s that Lucie felt should be returned to her and Desi, Jr.

[quote]Lucille Ball was not a dramatic actress.

Even so, I thought she was very good in Five Came Back.

Gary Morton was once described by a DL poster as one of those 70s guys in a toupee and polyester pants who just finished tearing up the bathroom something fierce.

"Yours, Mine & Ours - The Musical"

Lucy in Ziegfeld Follies using a leather whip to discipline a gang of seductively dressed cat girls was way ahead of its time. If it were a segment on the Grammy Awards today, it would cause outcry and boycotts by conservative groups, and Lucy would be cancelled by Ted Nugent and Kid Rock.

Lucy STANDING on a horse was the weirdest thing about it, and it was plenty weird enough without that.

Lucy was supposed to be Flipper. (Insert Gary joke here).

As an actress, Vivian had much greater range than Lucille.

Vivian’s entrance at 1:45 . . .

Vivian hubby was Larry from "Bewitched" (David White) in that "Rhoda" episode.

""Yours, Mine and Ours" was the 11th highest-grossing movie of 1968(!). This must have given Lucy/Gary the clout for another career resurrection and stab at the movies (sitcom and the ill-fated "Mame"):

"It was a massive commercial success, earning nearly $26 million ($182 Million adjusted for inflation) at the box office (on a tight budget of $2.5 million) and earning over $11 million in rentals. It was the top-grossing film released by United Artists in 1968. This came about probably on the strength of Lucille Ball's name and performance (which many of her fans regard as a classic). Some critics felt that Ball, then in her late 50s, was perhaps 15 years too old for the part of a middle-aged (presumably 40-ish) mother.

Not anticipating the huge box office returns from the movie, Lucille Ball failed to make appropriate tax shelter and thus saw most of her share going to pay taxes.

The film's success partly inspired network approval of the television series The Brady Bunch; the original script for the series pilot was written well before this movie became a reality."

Gary's widow Susie looks like she knew her way around a nut loaf...

Well, r143, we all knew Lucille and Viv were furiously scissoring after every show. Maybe old Gary had a type.

R144, Well, Lucie did find a number of intimate letters between Lucy and Mary Wickes among her mother’s possessions after her death.

It’s known they were close friends, Mary spent a lot of time at Lucy’s Roxbury Drive home.

Mary Wickes was a known dyke.

Lucy liked bones in her fish.

Yeah, I don't think Lucille was a lesbian. But she did have big lesbian energy from time to time.

I think Vivian may have experimented.

I've posted this before, but the only 2 nice areas of Lucy's house was Gary's closet (filled with Vuitton luggage) and his office. Both beautifully wood-paneled.

The rest of the place was a shithole that hadn't been touched since the 60s.

"......knew her way around a nutloaf." 😂 You funny fucker!

@r149, The place looks like it smelled of stale cigarettes

Lucy never renovated or made any other changes to her house in the decades she lived there, no even new furniture. By the time she died it was a time capsule and really showing its age. The new owners did a gut renovation.

Another pic of Lucy at home.

Sorry, forgot the link.....

Ghastly r154!

It looks like Lucy was visiting the Bradys at their home.

The only cool thing was seeing furniture from I Love Lucy. A back patio had some of the stuff from the Hollywood episodes.

I wonder if Lucy dyed the carpet...

This isn't a good quality pic, but here's Lucy and Gary with Barbara Walters at the house on Roxbury Drive. You can smell the stale cig smoke and whiskey through your screen.

Lucy's bedroom on Roxbury Drive. OMG!

When I was there (80s), she added a powder blue wrought iron headboard.

Okay r161 you can't just leave us hanging like that. Tell us about your visit with Lucy in the 80s.

Carole Cook was picking up something and invited me along. She gave me a tour of the house, and we laughed our asses off. Lucy was playing a game with some guy in a corner of the living room- maybe backgammon?

I couldn't believe she lived like that.

r263 you mean the house was dumpy?

Stained carpet, outdated bathrooms, rumpus room stacked with boxes of crap (including Mame coffee mugs), pool house with towels that were rags.

[quote]I wonder if Lucy dyed the carpet...

It does match the drapes.

When the eyesight begins to go, lots of things (my mothers guest towels) went to hell but were overlooked

What's with that "tan" on Morton ?

^^he thought it made him sexy

Did Gary Morton do anything other than play golf, fetch Lucy her drinks and light her cigs? Did he ever actually have a job?

Yes, chiseling down actor's fees to appear on the show.

R170, He also carried her clutch bag at public events.

A lot of that decor was just the '70s. It was not an era of sleek and timeless designs.

[quote] Every morning Lucy would burnish up Gary's skin with Lemon Pledge.

This made me laugh the other day and I keep thinking about it - I'm declaring it my favorite ever comment on DL!

She did buy a condo in New York and hired a decorator, so maybe it looked better. Although she was cheap AF.

[quote]She did buy a condo in New York and hired a decorator, so maybe it looked better. Although she was cheap AF.

Ask and ye shall recieve....

More Lucy in NY....

Lucy's bedroom in her NY apartment....

Lucy's living room in NY...

I love how the old stars all had breakfast in bed. The breakfast tray always had the same things - coffee, orange juice, toast, the newspaper and plenty of cigarettes to start the day.

I wonder if The Ropers were based on them?

@r179, Lucy stole my look... And they say I'M a bitch 😠

OMG Lucy had atrocious taste in decor! Those giant, leafy plants covering every square inch of every coffee and end table! And the three crooked window boxes above her bed - I earthquake country, no less! Just ghastly.

Vivian's husband would have been APPALLED.

Lucy home troll, I think those are 2 different condos. Obviously the decor was changed at the very least, because the AD place looks nice.

All the photos were listed as her NY apartment, and I believe she only ever had one, but who knows. The NY apartment looked much better than her LA house on Roxbury Drive where she lived for decades. The Roxbury Drive house was so frumpy and tacky, really shocking for a star of her stature.

Jimmy Stewart also lived on Roxbury Drive just a few houses down from Lucy and I heard that after he died the new owners also had to do a total gut reno because nothing had been touched in decades.

[quote]The NY apartment looked much better than her LA house on Roxbury Drive where she lived for decades. The Roxbury Drive house was so frumpy and tacky, really shocking for a star of her stature.

The Beverly Hills house on "Here's Lucy" was nicer.

Still hilarious that a big house in BH could be afforded by a secretary.

Yes, I'm the poster who was in Lucy's Roxbury house. I just remember a friend said Lucy was buying a place in NY for when she visited her grandkids, so that was early 80s.

If they had auto tune in 1973 MAME would be considered one of the great musicals of the past. Lucky break today for Taylor Swift if they ever start making musicals again (CATS doesn't count).

R189 "Open a New Window ('cause Gary Just Farted)."

When threads devolve into fart jokes, it's time to call it a day.

I figured it was op keeping this nothing of s thread alive

[quote]we all knew Lucille and Viv were furiously scissoring after every show

Lucy always smelled "funny" down there...