CNN Drops To Fourth Place In Prime Time Friday Night, Behind Newsmax

The wages of sin is death.

Aw. That’s a shame.

Excellent - fuck them for getting Trump elected and then trying to do it again

They have a very narrow base, they could actually pick up viewers by going right if they want to sustain themselves

They ARE NOT getting ready to go out of business, op.

Well, SOMEBODY is surely getting their ass kicked right now.

He won't be fired but he has definitely been put on notice.

David Zaslav needs to go. His claim to fame is putting on shit like “Sister Wives” and “My 600 lb Life.”

David Zaslav needs to go! His claim to fame is putting on shit like “Sister Wives” and “My 600 lb Life.”

Ted Turner must be so proud.

[quote]....and CNN’s Who’s Talking to Chris Wallace (263,000 viewers).

Yikes!

They thought I was a problem?!?!?!

Were I NewsMax I would be SO all over this and rubbing CNN's nose in it!

Were I MSNBC, ABCNews, and maybe CBS, I would be putting out feelers to the talent. Maybe they need a change?

They’re heading to News Nation

CNN recreated itself as The Complicit News Network as an act of will. they have amply demonstrated they are more than willing to join the campaign to end democracy by shilling for the insurrectionist in chief.

[quote] Were I MSNBC, ABCNews, and maybe CBS, I would be putting out feelers to the talent. Maybe they need a change?

R13 MSNBC has already picked up some CNN talent, since CNN changed hands from AT&T to Discovery last year. Ryan Nobles left CNN to join MSNBC's Capitol Hill correspondent team. Also, Ana Cabrera left CNN at end of last year and just premiered as the 10am weekday anchor for MSNBC. They are both great additions to the MSNBC team, and I bet they sure are glad to be away from CNN after last week's "town hall" shit show.

[quote] They have a very narrow base, they could actually pick up viewers by going right if they want to sustain themselves

Yes they could do something like give Donald Trump free rein at a “town hall” filled with Trump supporters. That would totally work! Republicans will most definitely abandon Fox, OAN and Newsmax.

They're caught in the middle. Democrats watch MSNBC, and Republicans watch FOX. Who does that leave for CNN?

Anderson Cooper must be getting very worried.

I think their current remaining anchors and producers should take their entertainment format the one final step forward, and create a live musical/comedy program modeled after “The Brady Bunch Variety Hour.”

R19, Anderson Cooper will land on his feet. He’s already got one foot in the door at 60 Minutes. He’s certain to find something else. It also bears mentioning that he’s not hurting for money regardless.

Won't somebody please think of poor, sexy Phil Mattingly?

My suggestion would be that Cooper, Mattingly, Scuttio, King, Acosta, Kinzinger, Jones, Bermer, and Tapper present the "news" in their skivvies.

It's the only way left to them to boost ratings, really.

Add CNN contributor Michael Fanone to that list for an added bump.

What will happen to the studly Shimon Prokupecz???

It’s all been downhill since they fired Kathy Griffin. What’s next? Hire Andy Cohen as Program Director and launch ‘The Real Republican Housewives of Rural Trailer Parks’

Surely The Charles Barkley News Hour will be a hit!

don't watch tv, no idea about these new cable news channels, is Newsmax like OAN?

Yes, r28.

Every picture of Chris Licht that is available online SCREAMS functional coke addict. I can smell the coke breath from across the internet.

check the detailed numbers, Fox News finished first in prime with 1.44 million viewers, and MSNBC was second overall with 1.084 million viewers. Among viewers 25-54, the demographic group most valued by advertisers, CNN climbed to third place, with an average audience of 87,000 viewers. Fox News was first in the key demo with 109,000 viewers, followed by MSNBC (98,000 viewers). Newsmax was fourth with 45,000 viewers...

so Fox news had 1.44 million viewers, but 1.33 million of them are older than 55? And only 98,000 "young" (<54) viewers watched MSNBC, 87,000 for CNN, 45,000 for Newsmax, those numbers are laughable!!!

That was the night they had Chris Wallace interviewing that newsmaker Smokey Robinson.

Apparently Gloria Gaynor was unavailable.

CNN has middle school energy

Outside of Russia, the United States is the most propagandized major country in the world. Canada, the U.K., Australia, of the English speaking world don’t have to put up with anything like these channels pumping out outright lies like Fox News and it’s hard right imitators, and now CNN becoming Fox light. Because money is the king of everything here, and “news” can be classified as entertainment and get away with saying anything they want under the Constitutional right of “free speech”. I’m not saying other countries are perfect, but they don’t have a Fox News and talk radio problem on the scale of the United States. It’s ruined us.

RapeNN

Chris Wallace is totally wasted hosting a celeb chat show that nobody asked for.

Why hire a tough journalist like him and put him on features?

^No one will EVER trust someone who worked for FUCKS NEWS

CNN is much too white. Put me in charge and it will be a success. After all, the very first newscaster in history was black, and my record of success as a producer is unequaled!

The real news: Combined CNN, Fox, MSNBC and Newmax pull in a little over 3 million viewers that is less than 1% of the population, most Americans aren't paying attention.

[quote]^No one will EVER trust someone who worked for FUCKS NEWS

I think that Chris Wallace is different. Somehow, he successfully managed to navigate himself through the FOX miasma and remain under the radar without selling his soul. Therefore, the FOX stench isn't on him too much unlike...

Greta Van Susteren (where is she?)

Trish Regan (I believe that she's now been relegated to Twitter. Her YouTube channel doesn't even have 50K subscribers)

Megyn Kelly (No worries. That MASSIVE payout she got from FOX and then NBC (?) set her up for life!)

Geraldo Rivera (Who is FREAKING OUT on Twitter because it's in the wind that FOX will not use him as much or simply won't renew his agreement)

Fox News has negotiated such high carriage fees from cable systems that they don't even need advertisers to be profitable. If you pay for cable some of that money goes to FOX for the right to carry their network. Cable systems pay almost everyone to carry their programing but Fox gets the highest rates.

More Trump town halls. Start getting into the Hunter Biden laptop. Easy way to get the ratings back up.

R42 right on!

Shitty network full of hacks. CNN is the new Fox News.

Yep they suck

That is a truly pathetic number of viewers. Combined, they bring in less than a middling episode of "Frasier."

[quote]That is a truly pathetic number of viewers. Combined, they bring in less than a middling episode of "Frasier."

So, does that mean that too many of us here are far too engaged in following the news and politics? If that is the case, then what are others watching? How are they making their political decisions? What are better ways to reach these people?

[quote]My suggestion would be that Cooper, Mattingly, Scuttio, King, Acosta, Kinzinger, Jones, Bermer, and Tapper present the "news" in their skivvies.

Without support garments, R23?

Cable news is bullshit. More people watch NBC nightly news than all cable news stations combined.

More people subscribe to the New York Times.

PBS Newshour is viewed by about 1.2 M people, slightly less than Fox and slightly more than MSNBC.

[quote] what are others watching?

Datalounge.

[quote] How are they making their political decisions?

Datalounge.

Katlain Collins gets the 9 PM primetime slot.

[quote]Were I MSNBC, ABCNews, and maybe CBS, I would be putting out feelers to the talent. Maybe they need a change?

Acosta would be good on MSNBC.

Jake Tapper is scum and I can't stand the sight of him.

In 2019, the Pew Research Center found that over half of Americans (54%) either got their news "sometimes" or "often" from social media, and Facebook was the most popular social media site where American adults got their news.

[quote]"You do not have to like the former president's answers, but you can't say that we didn't get them," Licht reportedly told staffers, many of whom are upset about the event. "Kaitlan pressed him again and again and made news. Made a LOT of news... that is our job."

Your "job" is to report the news, not make it.

[quote]"You do not have to like the former president's answers, but you can't say that we didn't get them,"

You got answers and behavior we've known about Trump's entire life, you fucking, myopic asshole.

Wow, he mocked the woman he sexually-assaulted. We never saw that coming...again and again and again.

[quote] “Kaitlan pressed him again and again and made news. Made a LOT of news... that is our job."

The quote at R54 from Licht shows his hand. News organizations are supposed to report the news, not make it. He’s a show pony in what used to be a draft horse business.

Trump his* entire life

Boy, she has a really harsh face.

R49, that's the irony of all if this nonsense.

Someone like Tucker Carlson is made to look much more influential than he actually is. He has a very concentrated and passionate following within the GOP, but it doesn't translate into attracting people to the GOP agenda in the real world. People are not gravitating to the right when it comes to voting and the GOP's support is dwindling because people outside of those right-wing "silos" don't buy into their fear-mongering and culture war crap. You're not going to attract moderates and independents by trying to control people's lives.

Youtube hits and Twitter views for your racist bloviating, are not the real world.

Cable news is really fucked. Newsmax and One America News are huge now. They also more insane than Fox News could ever be.

Make sure you don't watch the Collins hr under any circumstances.

Why did she get a pass for her derogatory slur tweet when most would have been cancelled? It’s still ok to hate on the gays. I’ll never watch her or CNN.

There are now rumors that Laura Ingraham may be out at FOX or at least moved somewhere else, because they're shifting the schedule around.

Any conversation about the reach and influence of a “news” organization has to take into account the number of social media interactions with clips from their show.

I can’t speak for current numbers but I remember Sean Hannity getting lots of Facebook interactions from clips during the 2016 election.

Kailyn Collins to the rescue...

She looks like a cartoon joker you'd see on a slot machine

She looks like an eagle or another such bird in the face

[quote] [R49], that's the irony of all if this nonsense.

Someone like Tucker Carlson is made to look much more influential than he actually is.

It's about the media establishing a narrative of the legions of right wing conservative supporters in the US. We Liberals know it's not true, but it emboldens the mouth breathing right wingers to be confrontational bigots and Karens in public doing the GOP's work by bullying and shooting people, creating a hostile environment.

R68, again, I haven’t looked at the numbers but seldom was the incubator for radical theories that were promulgated by further right voices like Ben Shapiro.

Carlson was a gateway drug. He planted the seed that was watered and tended by further right voices online in social media spaces like Facebook through videos from people like Shapiro.

Seldom = Tucker

[quote] Someone like Tucker Carlson is made to look much more influential than he actually is.

Wrong.

R69, the Russian government told its media outlets to play MORE of Tucker Carlson’s show.

Bill, pour me some more of that champagne.

R71, when you're influential, you can actually win elections representing your ideology. Carlson's "great replacement" bullshit doesn't play outside of the right-wing silo

Some of us remember when the movie, "Network" was a fantasy.

Bring back Bobbie Battista. Even her corpse would be better than the current lineup.

I didn't know she died.

Get Lynn Russell!

Lynn’s down at the shooting range with her gun collection.

Chris Licht seems to have a hard-on for Kaitlan Collins. Yes sir, she's the answer to CNN's problems. Viewers just flocked to her morning show. 🙄

R80, are you trying to tell me the Daily Caller articles from her past didn't draw you in???

I never understood why some people are able to fail up. CNN's morning show is a freaking disaster, yet Kaitlan gets promoted to primetime. Unreal.

You're pretty much describing the careers of Donald Trump and his son-in-law Jared Kushner, R82.

Will Kaitlan escape blame when nobody watches her in primetime either?

To me, an even bigger mystery is how she got hired by CNN? What news organization that sees itself as credible hires someone who has "The Daily Caller" on their resume?? What's next? "The Daily Stormer"?

She's supposed to reach the millennial audience. First of all, she's a young woman; secondly, she fits into the new CNN model. Her being selected as host for the Trump interview was meant to be her introduction to the right-wingers who normally watch Fox and those whom CNN wants to attract. It was not by chance that she was selected to do that gig. The only way to get rid of her is to make sure that no one watches under any circumstance.

I only watch CNN although it could be a little more balanced.

Kaitlan was a non-factor in the mornings. My guess is she will be at night too.

She's like Maddow is only on once a week. Alex Wagner is actually OK, but she has no audience and her vocal fry is grating as hell.

lucky* not like

Well, what happened to Kasie Hunt? Wasn't she supposed to be the new "darling" of CNN?

She gave bad head.... used he teeth.

[quote] Carlson's "great replacement" bullshit doesn't play outside of the right-wing silo

Honey, that was one of a million things Tucker said.

Roseanne was going on racist tirades on Twitter before Valerie Jarrett.

Licht won't be around much longer. When the big guy says "he's gotten a lot wrong", well that's code word for he's out the door sooner than later.

[quote]Her being selected as host for the Trump interview was meant to be her introduction to the right-wingers who normally watch Fox and those whom CNN wants to attract.

She looks NOTHING like the type of young woman Fox viewers respond to.

It had some hot anchors with great asses but couldn’t live forever.

The average age of the viewer for all of the cable news networks is the mid to late 60s. Almost nobody under age 50 watches cable news. Cable news (and cable TV in general) is dying.

R98 but will Gen X and Millennials watch it as they age or no? Will it mostly die with Boomers?

Why on earth would CNN pick this homely creature to be on air talent? She's a plain Jane who looks like a man in a wig.

Please have wised up to the fact that most TV news shows are just entertainment in disguise. Very little can be believed and most reports are grossly exaggerated or even complete lies. If the news isn't exciting enough they'll just lie and make it more exciting.

Thanks, R98. But if that is true then what are people watching? I didn't know there were loads of people like me who choose and select their own content. Let me be more specific...

I don't have cable. I'm an MSNBC devotee but I'll watch the clips of the programming (without commercials) from a hot upload on YouTube. So what that I see it about an hour or two after its aired. YouTube is free. That's the same with any news item I wish to see. If it's a real important event, most of them are livestreamed and I'll watch that on my laptop--and even then I can look at it later on YouTube. The only television I do pay for is my NetFlix subscription and even with that I'm considering getting rid of it.

[quote]Please have wised up to the fact that most TV news shows are just entertainment in disguise. Very little can be believed

I agree with this. It's the primary reason why I stopped watching CNN altogether. For me it all began during the Clinton/Trump campaign. CNN would have on a panel of "experts" that would debate the issues and talk about the candidates. The Trump people literally lied without impunity and were never challenged. But the Clinton people were incessantly interrupted by the Trump people (that's the Republican strategy) and the moderator (one was Anderson Cooper) would allow this and never control the debate. Then...

Trump was elected and whenever I would listen to CNN (eg the gym, etc) it came across to me that CNN's criticism of him was waaay overboard. Yes, he was/is bad but c'mon now. But the final straw was Chris Cuomo. He would have KellyAnn Conway on his show and they would get into screaming matches. The very first time it happened worked because it appeared to be real and natural. But by the 4th and 5th time this happened (she seemed to be on every week) one just knew that this was just bad reality show writing and only done to get ratings. It was contrived. Given the very serious issues facing the country at the time I was offended that the network only thought in terms and tactics of a "Jerry Springer Show" rather than reporting news. That's when I was done. I did like Brianna Kehler(?) until she started doing that. I could never warm up to Anderson Cooper. I never liked that queen, Don Lemon. I never forgave Jake Tapper for leaving ABCNews. So, there's no reason for me to watch CNN.

Hot sporty body with lovely smile and eyes, Phil Mattingly would fit nicely to CNN schedule.

Zaslav’s Folly

Why thank you R104!

She doesn’t have personality. She’ll need to lean on a panel.

The writing on the wall for me was the nearly 24/7 coverage of MH360, and then cartoons in the afternoon ( on CNN!). When Zucker was asked why there were cartoons on from 3:00- 4:00 in the afternoon, he said it was a new and creative way to report news. Just ridiculous, and its been downhill from there and not getting any better.

LOL!

Now, you do have to give this to Trump. He can take a knife, plunge it in deeper, then...

TWIST IT!

R109, I laugh and then I get pissed knowing I live among millions of dirtbags who think that stupid, stupid dogshit should be anywhere near the presidency. That thing was president. I still cannot believe that embarrassment was president.

Ohhh, I'm suuuuure this was booked and planned months ago...

mainstream and humanize rethugs

Just based on ratings, Anderson Cooper should have been fired years ago. CNNs fear of firing people is really pathetic. Don Lemon should have been axed on day one. Erin Burnett is also unwatchable.

LOL!

Damage control!

R36 It bears repeating: Why is Chris Wallace on CNN interviewing showbiz celebrities? He was always tough on Trump TO HIS FACE when other reporters wouldn't touch Trump. Hard-hitting interviewer wasting his talent at CNN.

That ridiculous CNN Town Hall with Trump and Kaitlin Collins might have turned out differently if CNN had Chris Wallace handle it.

[quote] It bears repeating: Why is Chris Wallace on CNN interviewing showbiz celebrities?

I agree that it's stupid to have Chris Wallace interview showbiz people instead of interviewing politicians, which is his strength. But that's why they originally hired him after he left Fox. At the time, he said he was looking forward to getting away from always covering politics. He was going to host a show on their streaming service CNN+ where he'd interview celebrities and other newsmakers. Then when CNN+ went bust shortly after launching, they basically moved that show to regular CNN. Plus, he's 75.

Which is another reaswhy them giving new show to be cohosted by Gayle King is so dumb and baffling.

[quote]Why is Chris Wallace on CNN interviewing showbiz celebrities?

Oprah Winfrey is no longer interested in doing celebrity interviews.

Barbara Walters is dead.

There's a niche market that needs to be filled.

[quote]Which is another reaswhy them giving new show to be cohosted by Gayle King is so dumb and baffling.

Ya ever heard of a program titled 20/20?

[quote]Why is Chris Wallace on CNN interviewing showbiz celebrities?

Without celebrities, no one wants to watch his garbage program.

[quote]Brian Stelter @brianstelter 12h-- "In the weeks after the former president appeared on CNN, the network's ratings have plummeted. In fact, its ratings last week were the worst the network has posted since June 2015.