What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?

Cause? It's found in nature in all kinds of animals. It happens. It's not a disease. It's a form of behavior.

Eating Cheez Whiz as a child. Full of gay chemicals.

R2, Granny believed it was pomegranate seeds. She said they were sexual and not everyone could eat them. (She was Greek.)

I thought it was a species stress response to overpopulation.

Nature. Duh.

[quote]It's a form of behavior.

r1 Eh, behavior can be changed. Sexual orientation can't. So, this doesn't really answer OP's question.

Good luck

It's just one of those things. Why look into it any further than that

I do believe a species response to over-population has something to do with it, but at the risk of sounding kooky I have a pet theory based on the Jungian idea of a fully individuated person embodying the masculine and feminine in equal measure. I haven't worked out the details into a concise chestnut of a point, but something about bloodlines coming to an end personified by a masculine-feminine ideal with more access to spiritual truths that use art to make ameliorative changes to society (on a large or small scale). Broad strokes, but you get the idea.

Hearing Judy Garland sing. That would do it.

That’s the way the balls bounce—some of them, anyway.

No basis for this other than theory- but the levels of hormones/ testosterone or estrogen the mother has while carrying the child. This is only based on the fact that levels of autism have been liked to higher testosterone in the mother while pregnant, and if you ring finger is longer than your index finger it also can indicate the mother had a higher testosterone level.

Love of penises.

There is no cause. It’s nature.

If survival is enhanced by having other individuals who will defend you against harm, snd sexual gratification is intertwined with forming a connection or bond with other individuals, then participating in sexual activity with whoever is the most fit may lead to increased survival. More of a case for bisexuality, but I guess attraction is on a spectrum so is homos are the outliers on that spectrum.

Us homos*

Acute Awesomeness 😎

Hormones.

Genes AND genetic expression. Both are completely natural.

I’d say in utero androgen exposure interacting with environmental factors. I doubt that it’s genetic.

Depending on the person, this could be a homophobic question.

What is the cause of heterosexuality? Species propagation. But if that's the case, why do so many gay men have children. God forbid we include the developing world.

What is the cause for humanity? There is no cause because there is no point to humanity, in the grand scheme of things.

We are of and from nature, for our own purpose, there is no cause beyond what we choose to make it.

R20 androgen in utero is conditioned on the mother’s genes and environmental factors. Still genes and expression.

R19

As soon as we solve this can somebody please explain what causes heterosexuality?

r23 An organism's natural drive to survive and increase its population.

And saying it's "nature" so there is no cause is dismissive. Every outcome in nature has a cause. What causes erections? Usually, it's caused by sexual arousal which starts in the brain. But there are other causes as well independent from sexual arousal.

Thank you, R24. There are some things I’m never really going to understand and wanting to procreate is one of ‘em.

The more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be a gay male. It makes sense- your first-born male child needs to procreate. Male children after that that are gay, support the whole family structure- they do some of the women’s work with the strength of men. Gay men were honored and not reviled in Native American Cultures. There is also a correlation with hair swirls- there is a higher correlation with gay men (I have forgotten if it is clockwise or counterclockwise.) This does not apply to gay women. They are more complicated.

[quote] "What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?"

Incredibly good luck, OP.

r25 No problem! I will say this. From an evolutionary standpoint, I understand the human desire to procreate. From a common sense standpoint, I do not.

That said, when it comes to this topic, I've always preferred the saying that "sexual orientation exists between your ears, not your legs." Our brains guide our desires and behavior. However, this gets a bit more complicated when we divide this by sex.

Males need to get an erection and experience sexual arousal in order to have sexual intercourse; specifically, if they're the penetrating party. Females do not because females are anatomically structured as the receivers. While arousal would certainly make sexual intercourse more pleasant for the female, it is still possible to occur without it. That is why the behavior argument cannot be universally applied.

If a male is getting an erection and thus able to perform sexually (penetrate someone), he is sexually aroused somehow. If that arousal only happens with women, he is heterosexual. If it only happens with men, he is homosexual. However, if it is able to happen with both, he is bisexual. Women, on the other hand, can be 100% repulsed by their male sexual partners, yet sexual intercourse can still happen if he is aroused and has an erection. Many closeted 100% lesbians have historically endured this very tragic situation since the beginning of time. They were technically engaging in heterosexual behavior while being 100% homosexual.

So, to me, a woman's sexual behavior doesn't necessarily define her sexual orientation as much as a man's does.

Hornyness for ones own sex.

Mine can be directly linked to release of Malibu Skipper in 1971.

In my case it was...

It's epigenetics.

Furthermore:

Moreover:

Because God doesn't make mistakes, which explains the gays, except when he does, which explains the trans. (And I'm really surprised no reich-wing conservative has latched onto the latter to justify their determination to get rid of gay people.)

Thanks for posting this article, R34. It is quite interesting, although this won't explain phenomena like bisexuality or asexuality.

Why not, R36?

It's not like they're completely separate, unrelated things.

Genes. this is why it is not a choice or something you become because you were brought up with it.

I hate when people think it's a choice and I always ask them, so when did you question yourself and say I am going to be a heterosexual and not gay. This is also why it drives me crazy that gay people think they need to announce that they are gay. Heterosexuals never announce they are hetero so why should gay people have to "announce" that they are gay?

You are just who you are because you were made that way.

Its a mixture of causes, all biological - birth order as R26 said, stress during pregnancy, and genes. The genes (I believe there are five or six separate ones involved) alone dont make you gay, but predispose someone when the other factors come into play

Genetics, one's developmental context and one's complex of sexual experiences beyond that.

And general innate fabulousness.

It’s a bit of nature and a bit or nurture pretty much like heterosexuals.

Now, what causes you to create such a silly post? Do you think you sound smart?

For the very simple reason that bisexual people may have same sex dalliances, R37, but they don't have less children than their heterosexual counterparts by any significant margin. Moreover, there is no evidence that bisexual or asexual people would be less likely to procreate or decrease demographic pressures during critical periods by "abandoning" heterosexual behaviours in favour of same sex relationships or celibacy.

This is why this explanation is great for homosexuality, but it doesn't adequately explain bisexuality (which is, supposedly, what most people are to some degree) or asexuality.

At the dawn of man Mother Nature knew that eventually the population of humans would explode and she set forth a form of natural birth control called homosexuality.

The singing King Cousins!

A Gift from God!

I think my homosexuality was caused by my sleeping with men only.

Just a bunch.

Fuck, just a hunch 😁

No, just a hump.

R31!!! It's like something from a sci-fi horror movie!!!

Too many female hormones swirling around me in utero? Who knows.

You dudes are so funny!

The bible makes people gay. If you read it you crave the same sex. If you read it too much you start to want to change your gender.

The Atlantic monthly published the linked article the year I graduated from college, and I remember it was considered seminal (no pun intended) and groundbreaking. I was so fascinated by it that I never forgot it (and I forget a lot of stuff I read).

The article, not incidentally, is also an interesting time capsule in that its length and substance--its determination not to talk down to readers--is something you don't see so often in this era of snippet reportage and headers that announce ("3 Minute Read"). I miss this kind of journalism.

My love of dick.

Pretty sure it's genetic. Here's why. They say that when one sibling is gay, there is a 50% chance the other will be too. I am a lesbian and so is my older sister. Two brothers are straight. However, one of my brothers had two girls. One just came out as gay.

Either way, when someone tells me it's a choice, I always ask if they were in a gay relationship prior to choosing heterosexuality. I mean, if you believe it's a choice then you are saying that every single human has a choice. So in theory straight guys can get it up for men or women if you subscribe to the belief that sexuality is simply a choice.

The jury's still out, but I'm guessing it has to be a combination of genetic and hormonal factors. I know it was always present for me. Even back to around first grade, the puppy love feelings you get at that age I had only for the other boys around me. I kept it secret, even though I had zero awareness that liking boys culturally registered as "bad" for a lot of people around me—I've always kind of wondered why I was always keenly aware of needing to "hide" it. I'm assuming it's due to the fact that there were no role models and I never saw gay people around me (at least that I was aware of), so my developing brain recognized it was not the norm and therefore not something to express.

My dad's side of the family, which is fairly small, has at least two confirmed gays—his sister was a lesbian, and one of his uncles was also gay, but I was not made aware of this until I was much older. My aunt pretty much kept to herself and had a longtime girlfriend, but she was distant from most of the people in our family and I rarely saw her growing up. When I was in my twenties and out, I got to spend some time with her when she was dying of cancer, and we were able to talk about it, which I'm grateful for. I think, like many people of her generation, she kept that distance because she was uncomfortable with it on some level, even though my dad's family was not religious or hostile toward gay people. I only met my great-uncle a couple of times, and he also mostly kept to himself and lived a pretty solitary life until he died. I don't know if he ever had a boyfriend or longtime partner, but thinking about it is kind of depressing to me.

I have always wondered if the genetic component could have some truth to it based on our family history, but it could be purely coincidental. My mom has long suspected that one of her brothers could be gay or bisexual and repressed it. She started to wonder because his wife, who she was close friends with, often confided in her that they had "troubles" in the bedroom. My uncle and his wife also had a mutual male friend who was gay, and he and my uncle were best friends and stayed close after my aunt died. My uncle has never admitted to anything and probably never would, but I sometimes wonder.

I like to joke that my mother induced my homosexuality because she let me watch Mommie Dearest with her when I was a little kid.

What is the cause of heterosexuality, OP? What about haterosexuality?

r55 The Choice people don't agree. Basically, they are saying you can choose to sin or love the lord.

It’s R19. Do 15 posters really need to find inarticulate ways of word inefficiency?

The funny replies stand on their own. Everything else is R19. It’s not debated seriously.

Who cares?

[quote] Either way, when someone tells me it's a choice, I always ask if they were in a gay relationship prior to choosing heterosexuality. I mean, if you believe it's a choice then you are saying that every single human has a choice.

One they will say they chose not to make, rendering your question pointless.

Just ask them when it was that they chose to be straight.

R61 this thread is what proves beyond reasonable doubt that mean IQ on DL hovers somewhere around 87.

A big hot fat ass.

Class.

To be helpers in the nest, such as the “super uncles” of Samoa.

r58, I'm an atheist so I don't care about a magical sky genie who grants wishes.

Nearly every other gay person I know has a sibling, parent, uncle, aunt, grandparent or some other relative that’s also gay. I’ve met several gay twins. It’s far from an anomaly.

To ignore that there’s a genetic component to homosexuality is just ignorance.

[Bold][Italic]What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?[/Bold][/Italic]

Living long enough.

Meaning … not dying at such a young age before you can notice other people and discover in yourself your very own sexual identity.

This is the “cause,” OP.

What causes eye color, height,etc? It's genetic. It's natural.

And you frauen cunts posting about mis-firings in the womb and the like take a good look at your bigoted ignorant asses.

What's the research show? Males with older brothers have a higher chance of being gay. For every older brother there is a 15% higher incidence of gaiety. But only if you're left handed or maybe it's right handed - one or the other. So specials thanks to those older brothers.

It does run in family so there must some genetic component.

Though not exactly the same, recent studies have shown that if a mother experiences high stress right before and/or during pregnancy there is a higher likelihood of a female birth and if she has experienced less stress she is more likely to have a boy. Don't know the science behind it but that sounds related to hormones or whatever chemicals are present during stress. So clearly those non-genetic factors can affect the sex of a baby. Unless there is a genetic component to how the body handles stress and secretes hormones/chemicals. What do I know?

[quote]if a mother experiences high stress right before and/or during pregnancy there is a higher likelihood of a female birth and if she has experienced less stress she is more likely to have a boy.

I refuse to believe you are not trolling here. I refuse. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming this line is sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek.

R72, hey it's not my research or study. I'll see if I can find the study.

Here's an abstract of a study on the children of gay and trans parents.

[quote]What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?

Mutated optical nerves send a signal to the brain when you see a guy and feels that he's sexy. The brains send a signal to the heart to pump more blood to the dong.

Yes, it's all about optical nerves.

r73 Do you know how the sex of a fetus is determined and when? Serious question.

Strictly genetic.

I love this:

[quote] What is against the order of nature is the ongoing persecution of the sexual minority. These are not confused or defective people that need to be cured or punished or ostracized. They need to be accepted for who they are and embraced. They make us better.

Likely, exposure of the foetus to certain factors during gestation. There are plenty of examples with identical twins where one is straight and one is gay, so it can't simply be a matter of "gay genes". There are environmental influences, most likely in the womb, that trigger homosexuality.

Having said that, almost all gay men I've ever known well, have reported certain parental dynamics in the home in very early childhood that are consistent. Namely an emotionally distant or rejecting father figure, and a mother who compensates by forming an emotionally intimate relationship with the son. But this is a chicken and egg situation. Does the father reject the son because he is different, or does the rejection trigger something in the son's sexual development?

The same forces that cause heterosexuality.

R78, that's an very old long dismissed explanation, nothing to do with it, not even remotely.

R78 my mother treated both my brother and I more as her confidants than she parented us, and while my dad was at times emotionally distant (his whole family is like this), most of my childhood memories involve him because I think he was more active in our lives. I’m also the eldest child, and my younger hetero brother, who was smothered by my mother throughout his childhood, is considerably closer to her than I am. I guess there are exceptions to everything.

R80: Dismissed by who and on what grounds? Almost every gay man I've ever known well enough to know about his childhood in detail tells the exact same story. That has to count for something even if it makes some people uncomfortable.

I don't pretend to understand the whys of this study.

Fewer Baby Boys with Stress?

The study suggested that pregnant women experiencing physical and psychological stress are less likely to have a boy. On average, around 105 males are born for every 100 female births. But in this study, the sex ratio in the physically and psychologically stressed groups favored girls, with male-to-female ratios of 4:9 and 2:3, respectively.

“Other researchers have seen this pattern after social upheavals, such as the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York City, after which the relative number of male births decreased,” says Monk. “This stress in women is likely of long-standing nature; studies have shown that males are more vulnerable to adverse prenatal environments, suggesting that highly stressed women may be less likely to give birth to a male due to the loss of prior male pregnancies, often without even knowing they were pregnant.”

Ancient, ridiculous trope: It is a mental disorder caused by a distant father, domineering mother, a disorder that can be overcome with therapy. It is a desire the character must fight, lest he succumb to this moral failure. Thank God most intelligent people don't believe this Freudian/Biblical BS anymore.

R82, long discredited by almost all doctors. And what about the passive father, and overprotective mom whose sons are straight? How did that happen, pray tell?

the gene for Fabulous and Wit.

R84: Something being "ancient" and to your eyes being "ridiculous" is irrelevant. You emotional discomfort is irrelevant to whether it is or is not true that parental dynamics ***may*** play a role in homosexuality. It also doesn't follow that this means homosexuality is a "mental disorder" , or that it can or should be "overcome" (because it cannot). I'm not interested in your emotional reactions or offence at this being a possible cause. I'm only interested in discovering what might be true. And stop saying "domineering mother". Not interested in judging or blaming anyone. Just seeking the truth.

R85: "doctors" don't know what causes homosexuality.

Nothing causes homosexuality or heterosexuality. They are naturally occurring.

If only we could only do something about those heart-breakers the bisexuals.

I don’t know, but we are primates. As with all other types of hierarchical species, not all members can reproduce or are allowed to. Some members have other purposes, beyond reproduction. Maybe gay men are there to protect the females from creepy males.

^ the effing bisexuals got me rattled there.

I’m gay on top of being mildly autistic (Aspergers) so I feel like my life has been a double whammy. On top of that, my mom and my stepdad aren’t super fond of me being gay, which doesn’t help either. My biological father, who got divorced from my mom when I was two, died in 2016.

Thankfully, it’s a good thing I have lived on my own for the last year and-a-half. But, that’s partly because I went back to school and partly due to my mental health. I find it strange how I feel like one of the only LGB people in my entire family. But again, most of my family is religious and a lot of them voted for Trump. I’m one of six kids with two older brothers and an older sisters. I have two younger half-siblings.

I wonder if somewhere far back in my family tree, someone on either side of my family was LGB, but because of society, my family kept it under the rug. I hope to know the answer to this question someday.

*and an older sister

I wish DL let you edit your replies like most websites. Ugh!

"What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?"

Heterosexuality causes it.

Don't kid yourselves, straight people.

Human condition. As long as men exist gay men will also exist. Sorry, OP. It isn't a problem and doesn't need to and can't be "fixed".

Or:

The same thing that causes people to be straight.

1970s underwear catalogues in my experience.

Let’s face it, those who grew up pre-2010 grew up in a very unaccepting heterosexual environment. Homosexuality couldn’t be viewed more negatively than that. Why would anyone want to be gay during that era? Guess what, they still were and hid it. It wasn’t encouraged. It was discouraged It was deemed disgusting. So nurture was actually doing everything to prevent homosexuality and it still occurred.

R92 I liked your post, you seem sweet. Good luck with things.

R87 I agree with you that the whole distant father/overbearing mom thing is bogus, but I believe they have discussed how certain parental dynamics can adjust a person's personality. I don't believe for a second that being closer to my mother than my father had anything to do with me being gay, but I do think being closer to my mom assisted a more feminine side to my personality. I actually really appreciate having that balance that I got from her.

It’s like being born with blonde hair. It’s just who you are.

r83 That study didn't state that stress [bold]causes[/bold] more female births. It stated that it causes [bold]less[/bold] male births because males are less likely to survive in a stressed womb and are more likely to be miscarried or be stillbirths.

What determines the sex of the fetus is whatever chromosome the sperm that fertilizes it is carrying. If the sperm is carrying an X chromosome, the fetus will be female. If it's carrying a Y chromosome, the fetus will be male. If the mother is super stressed, the male fetus is at higher risk of not going full term or being premature.

That said, I found that study quite interesting. My cousin, aunt, sister, and myself all have experienced miscarriages and/or stillbirths. They were all boys. And yes, the pregnancies were stressful. As hell.

[quote] My cousin, aunt, sister, and myself all have experienced miscarriages and/or stillbirths.

I'm sorry to hear that, R100.

R53 that's a terrific article, I remember it too

R78 Not in my family. Neither parent was "emotionally distant". Not in my partners either

Stage 4 inoperable fabulosity

[quote] Maybe gay men are there to protect the females from creepy males.

Good job so far🙄

How about horney as can be.

Starting at 10 I was giving blow jobs. At 16 I was screwing women. At 50 I was back to men.

At 80 I am locked in on men. Still going strong.

In my case, it’s because dicks are so much fun

[quote]Not in my family. Neither parent was "emotionally distant".

Same here. I'm also the oldest of five brothers, and there's not a whiff of homosexuality among any of my relations.

To weigh in on the discussion of those who think it’s a choice: I have a theory that most people are bisexual but hide/repress it due to societal pressures. Bisexual people who choose not to fuck people of the same sex are confused because they think gay people are bisexual like themselves but making the opposite choice. They chose to be “straight” so why can’t we?

I am surprised that at least 50% or more of the male population isn't gay. Think about it, for nearly every male their first hundred or even thousand sex experiences comes from a hand and a cock. No vaginas involved. Sometimes it is done with male friends joining in. Why would anyone move on to vaginas? Makes no sense to me.

R108 speaking as a female, I think that's definitely true for 80-90% of women.

Perhaps that's only because straight men are so terrible at sex and so slovenly and so emotionally insensitive, though.

THERE WAS research in 2019 that told us of 5 regions in the human genome responsible for same sex behavior. I think they are activated by things like what Alex Jones said with the frogs and the water. So when your mother drank a lot of this frog water you'll turn out to be a fag but if she only drank a little, you'll become a bisexual BUT if she only drank grape drank than you would become a straight!

[quote] speaking as a female, I think that's definitely true for 80-90% of women. Perhaps that's only because straight men are so terrible at sex and so slovenly and so emotionally insensitive, though.

I don't think so. Actually what you just described sounds like political lesbianism. Homosexuality - to me anyway real homosexuality - is a natural attraction to the same sex as in this is what I desire as my sex partner - not this person is sweeter to me and so I'll tailor my sexual attraction to fit the other things I want in a partner.

R112 fair point. Then how do you describe situational adaptational sexuality, though? i.e. prison relationships and the like.

Cause? It should be a celebration at least.

R113, no idea. Some people will fuck anything if they need sex. I tend to think that prison situational homosexual activity is mostly male. And do straights in prison bottom or are they just tops and the recipients of oral sex?

It surprises me how hat science hasn’t given a definitive explanation of this yet. Is it from lack of interest?

I know I was gay since I was about 7 or 8. But didn't come out until I was 28

Ennui

First politics and why someone is gay don't mix. One is about gaining money, power and fame , and the other one about being a politician. When I was younger I thought being gay was a curse because almost every culture detested it. So like being born with any other defect, I just assumed that mine was being gay. It was cold, genetic comfort. I don't know how one is born gay. I think it is a mixture of the issues facing the mother when she is with child, and the issues that confront the child from birth until maybe 3 or 5. I had a distant father and mother so that wasn't the reason. I think that growing up I missed being a part of the boys- I was an only child. I also think that the women in my early life were not the kind of women that nurtured me. Even as a little boy I thought very little about women. If they were pretty movie stars I was all about it. But a real women just turned me off. So environment helped.

I also think that being called a fag day in and out worked on my mental state to focus on being gay instead of anything else. I feel sometimes like I was forced into being gay because the things I liked were not considered manly enough. Men can be extremely mean and cruel to boys who are different because of their own fears. They project those fears on the boys they bully. Many gays have no sense of manhood because all our lives we were told we couldn't measure up. I think people fail every day to see the real war like damage that being bullied can produce, above and beyond genes, and family.

[quote]What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?

Yo Mama.

Homosexuality is not an abnormality or impairment.

Homosexuality is an anomaly, but that doesn't mean it's inherently bad. It's naturally occurring throughout nature. I think there are some anthropological studies that suggest that, as far as progeny goes, the gays provide the function of being the extra "help" in the raising of children as they don't reproduce and have no obligations to their own offspring. I have no idea if this theory has been substantiated, but it's an interesting idea. I have a niece and it's certainly been true in my life.

It’s those darn drag queens and their storytime events!

If drag queens had to choose how they made their money from a well paying gig, none of them would choose to make it from a daytime event catering to fraus and their snot-nosed offspring. Everyone knows the best drag gig pays at least five figures, doesn't last more than one hour, and doesn't require the person to be in drag or even perform. Pay me handsomely to sit in a chair from the comfort of my own home, wearing sweatpants, talking extemporaneously for an hour, and I'll love your forever.

R122 this theory is dumb because gays aren't infertile. It is a disability that has been passed on through people being forced to remain closeted since ancient times. See Bradley C. He passed his faulty gay genetics on too.

brussels sprouts

"Anomaly" has no meaning in evolution. Nothing is anomalous because nothing has a purpose. Nature doesn't prefer one trait over another because it can't prefer anything. When people fall off cliffs you wouldn't blame them for failing to evolve wings.

Homosexuality is like being left-handed. Maybe it will one day turn out to be handy to those of us lucky enough to be gay, but the rest of the time it's just another fact in our random universe.

An unhealthy obsession with anal temperature checks from older, successful doctors……

Everyone keeps telling me I have a hot ass Socorro, can you check it to see??????

R127 handedness is a good analogy, speaking as a mixed-handed cross-lateral person. Almost no-one notices or remarks on it, and it isn’t a flaw or a disability per se. However, because the world is built by and for right-hand dominant people, sometimes one can run into operational trouble or misunderstanding from others trying to exist as an ambi or lefty.

EATING FROOT LOOPS MAKE YA FRUITY!!

Me: My mother made me a homosexual!

Him: If I give her the wool will she make me one too?

The weekday mornings 1960s and '70s children's television program "Pixanne," OP.

Bed wetting

It’s Friday night do you know where your pussy is?

I can't believe it's Friday night again.

R132 must be from Philadelphia!

[quote]What is the cause of homosexuality in your opinion?

Staring at rainbows in the sky for too long as a child.

I once saw a neighbor's male dog humping another male dog. It happens in other species.

We all saw that R138.

Not sure if I buy it, but I have heard people express that there are two reasons for homosexuality.

The theory goes that boys who are "gay from birth" e.g. they were effeminate as far back as preschool or earlier are gay by nature, whereas guys who are more masculine are gay by nurture - something happened at some point in their childhood that led them to become gay.

It falls apart for me because gay men are not quite so binary - it's not as if we were all little nelly femmes or super masculine jocks. Plenty of gray area

I don’t know about the cause, but I LOVE the effect…

I think it's nature's way of preventing humans from over breeding.

Why with each subsequent pregnancy would the womb become more testosterone resistant? Because you're going to need some homos on the planet to keep things working!

It ought to be more normalized to be gay. Because it's normal. It happens. It's a thing.

r142 The over-breeding prevention theory makes the most sense to me, also. Who is more likely to have a bunch of unplanned/accidental pregnancies? Heteros. Homosexuality is meant, I think, to help balance this. Of course, this doesn't explain bisexuals who also contribute to overpopulation with their "oops babies" but that's not the focus of the question, I suppose.

It’s not homosexuality as much as having ambivalent and ambiguous attraction and interest. Sometimes it’s not about men but usually it is. The first part usually doesn’t see the light of day outside my own head.

[quote]The first part usually doesn’t see the light of day outside my own head.

Is that because it doesn't make any sense R144?

r145 Ok, so I'm not that high? r144 really did make absolutely no sense, at all?

No it made no sense whatsoever R146. Maybe try explaining it a different way?

r147 I'm not r144. I was just reading it and soon as I was done, I just somberly thought to myself, "Damn, I must be really fucked up."

Oh I see! Sorry R148 - I thought you were R144.

No you're not too fucked up at all. You could easily have some more actually - you're fine. It made no sense to anyone.

I'm not sure about the whole nature versus nurture thing, but I'll ask Thad and Patrick.

Why are gay men fucking tranny pussy now?

Overbearing women in household

r151 Simple. Those are not gay men. Those are bisexual men. Next question...

R153, they’re not. They’ve simply been brainwashed into believing that these are real men and if they don’t fuck them they’re bigots.

Those gay men wouldn’t sleep with women who look like women but will sleep with a pussy attached to a person with a beard.

Maybe it’s a fetish.

r154 - r156 Yo. You couldn't just say all of this in one post? The separate posts are very troll-like. Just saying.

R144 chatgpt thinks you're bi.

The statement means that the person is not just attracted to people of the same sex (homosexuality), but they have mixed and uncertain feelings of attraction and interest. Sometimes their attractions are not specifically about men, but usually they are. However, these thoughts and feelings are mostly kept private and not shared with others. They tend to remain thoughts that stay in the person's own mind

Women’s pictures of the 1930s.

What a load of completely made up horseshit R154.

It’s not just in my apinion, OP, it’s in my entire body!

To correct the wrongs the sick heteros do.

Art, music, fashion... culture.

It would all be cement blocks, dogs playing poker and head wraps - blah

I was wanking to some bisexual porn with a post-college sex buddy decades ago, stoned, of course. He would eventually convince me to have a threeway a few times, me fucking him while he fucked a gal. He theorized that ancient prehistoric men became gay or bisexual because they just wanted to fuck. If a woman refused, was pregnant, say, a dominant male would just fuck a receptive male. And if a male would get turned on watching a man fuck a woman, he'd just aim his cock at the male's thrusting butt, sort of shoving the other male harder into the woman to ensure a pregnancy.

I almost shut down his theory when I asked, "But what about blowjobs?"

"Oh, the French invented those later."

This:

[quote] Why with each subsequent pregnancy would the womb become more testosterone resistant? Because you're going to need some homos on the planet to keep things working!

Wow! I never heard that before, but it fits with that theory about your chances of being gay increasing 15% with every older brother you have - if you're either right or left handed.

Evolutionary biology is fascinating. I need to go google some of those studies.

53 here, think for most people sexuality is a bit more fluid than we think, and society pigeonholes us into choosing at a very young age. While I am not straight by any means and identify as gay, I have been attracted to women occasionally over the years. I’m happily married to a man eight years now, and only last week was sort of attracted to a fabulous girl that showed up at our party No, I wouldn’t do anything about it on this realm even if she initiated it. The attractions also had to do with the personality the women exuded, and the “whole package” rather than any one specific attribute or beauty.

I’ve been attracted to younger men with slightly feminine features- one of my Colombian exes had that same haunting beauty of Angelina Jolie, It isn’t a stretch with certain features of youth, he was sexy and stood out.

There have also been times I’ve been fed up with my attraction to men and chasing dick, this has more to do with aging, that though I find younger men attractive, they are usually more trouble than they’re worth pursuing, I wouldn’t risk my relationship. However, if something happened to my husband, a woman wouldn’t be off the table for prospective relationship. This is where I feel my sexuality has wavered a bit over the years, and I wouldn’t express this out loud because I’m still processing it.

The other thing that happened when we moved from NYC to Tampa is that in recovery, (I’m in AA) A LOT of men I would’ve clocked as gay are closeted, down low, or deeply deny their sexuality. When they get sober, they really struggle with it because there’s no coping mechanism in sobriety for denying your sexuality! They tend to either get deeply religious, become stringent, hysterical Big Book thumpers, or have a chronic history relapse rather than face it.

R165 does that mean that one of the baldwins, one of the hemsworths and one of the Reynoldses is gay?????