“All I Want for Mother’s Day Is to be Left the Fuck Alone!”

She’s not pretty enough to be so demanding.

Also, she’s a whiny cunt.

This is getting more common. Women everywhere have been waking up to the scam in recent years. Good.

I was prepared to be annoyed, but this was pretty funny.

It sounds like her husband doesn't do jack shit. Still ploughing through article, though.

I need to see if she's in the very small percentage of women who can afford some respite to get away from soul-crushing straight men who refuse to do anything more than drive the spawn to school rather than sharing loving parenthood.

Most all parenting of "subnormal" children is done by females with many men scorning and blaming partners for spawns' deficits, even withholding money for food or rent if unsatisfied. I won't link that last one b/c it's universal.

What R3 said.

Amen.

My instincts tell me to hate this woman but it does sound like she's frustrated about a lack of balance in the domestic duties. I've decided I dislike the whole family including the kid.

To be fair it is a fucking liberty for layabout manbaby husbands to decide they’re going to do chores and take their wife out for one measly weekend of the entire year and expect praise for their thoughtfulness, then expect her to carry on bearing the brunt of the household labour (and increasingly even the financial labour as well) the other 51 weeks. Feels like a slap in the face.

I do hope girls are becoming more used to the idea that they don't have to marry a man and have kids to be happy. I have two nieces, one is mid 20s, married, one kid, seems already super unhappy. The younger one is in college, has been vocal about not wanting kids, etc. She already seems way happier.

I hope "girls" are not marrying "men," R9.

[quote]This is getting more common.

It's always been common.

I can empathize. For most, not all, of my free time I want little more than to be left the fuck alone. People need "me" time to decompress and recharge.

One day this kid will be off to college and this woman will be whining that he never calls her on Mother’s Day.

She’s complaining she has to give attention to her two year old? That’s what parents do.

She’s mad because her husband didn’t know to make a reservation for brunch?

She sounds insufferable.

I wonder how the husband feels reading this article? Or if he’s embarrassed that his friends have read it.

Snowflake generation.

She’s sitting on a toy rocker like a child. That’s all you need to know. She probably has her poor husband taking the photo for her.

Her Instagram bio reads: “Middle aged Teenager.”

I wish I was joking.

Call me, darling. I have a solution for you.

She sounds like an entitled bitch. And one that's raising an entitled brat. No sympathy - she made her choices.

Everyone complaining about the men. These women chose them and a lot of them intentionally choose the ones they view as “masculine” (who don’t want to be bothered doing domestic things) and then get mad they’re not being the loving helping househusbands they want after the kids come.

I have a friend who married and has kids with a bum and she’s upset he acts like a bum.

[quote] She’s mad because her husband didn’t know to make a reservation for brunch?

Quite frankly, R13, he sounds dumber than a box of hair. He can't handle figuring out beforehand whether a more high-end restaurant requires a reservation? What is that about? He sounds thoroughly incompetent. Moreover, like most straight men, he also sounds like he can't function at the most basic of levels, speaking generally.

Now look at R16. I wonder, why does a woman, any woman, marry such a man? Which could be extended to: why do ANY women marry ANY men, at all? I don't understand.

Help me, straight women of DL.

She should take heart.

Her dream of being left the fuck alone lies ahead when she’s in the old folks’ home.

[quote] kids with a bum

Pics please.

She’s angry she didn’t marry rich enough to hire domestic help.

I have zero sympathy for breeders.

All of my married (w kids) friends hate me for being able to take naps, go to the movies, etc, whenever I want. In return, they have to console themselves with empty bromides about family and about “the miracle of life”. Barf. It’s pretty sad.

She chose to marry a deadshit and have children with said deadshit. You make your bed, you lie in it.

We don’t know the husband is terrible. We only have her word for it.

Do they not teach unreliable narrator in English class anymore?

Why should the bother to teach it r27?

We LIVE in it.

The next Lori Vallow…

Mother’s Day in Brooklyn always had the biggest flock of dads and kids exiled to the playgrounds.

The restaurants will be filled with patrons later giving bad reviews on the long wait time for brunch.

It's the unhappy ones that repeatedly harp to single, childless co-workers about how it is such a shame they're missing out on all this domestic bliss.

Exactly, R25. Notice how the author of the article keeps saying things like "While I love my family dearly (...)", "Motherhood is no joke. [italic]It’s wonderful[/italic], yes, but (...)". It's like she has to keep telling that not only to others, but to herself (perhaps to see if she can believe it).

What I get from her text is that no, bitch - truth is you love fuck all. You don't love your family. You don't love your husband, you don't love your child, and motherhood, for you, is most certainly not 'wonderful'; you just say that because you feel that it's mandatory to. But you're lying through your teeth. You hate that life.

So, why, God, why?

Thanks, DL, for reading this so I didn’t have to. It’s amusing to read these headlines on HuffPoo but I refuse to click

R21, excellent question.

[quote] Thanks, DL, for reading this so I didn’t have to

We walked so you could fly

R3 the scam of continuing humanity? Pleasant or not, having children is necessary for society to function.

R36 the scam to which I was referring is the nuclear family set-up, monogamous good Xtian Mum & Dad raising kids alone in a house as the resentment between them builds. It doesn't work for most people nor does it breed a healthy society.

R25/Primus one of the greatest (and tbh only) joys of my mostly rather boring and limited but chilled 30-something existence is seeing the rage in the faces of my rich snobby older cousins when I casually discuss a concert or sports game I've been to, or a spontaneous weekend trip or purchase I've made lately, or how I just lay in bed all sunday morning doing nothing much (well, probably masturbating, but that's a given and I wouldn't share that). Because as a childless single I can do what the fuck I want with my time and money, wasteful or productive or whatever else.

They spent years of our adolescence mocking or snubbing me for being some dateless unfuckable Krelboyne from a trashy family, making out like I'd be desperate to take any cock just to get babies for some semblance of happiness. But now it turns out? I'm the one who currently still has all my hair and my body and my sanity while I'm still young and healthy enough to enjoy it, and they're exhausted and stressed and unhappy and feeling like their lives are already over before 40.

Sure, they'll hint that there's a bleak future ahead for me alone in respite care with no-one to nurse me, but if their brats are any indication, they aren't getting compassionate family visits in the 2080s either.

She's all bark and no bite.

Well, she succumbed to her hormones and married a dud, 5 yrs later after the in love hormones subsided , she awoke to her own personnel nightmare .

R19 it seems the best workaround is to cheat with a masc alpha male enough for him to get you preggers (and enjoy some hot sex), then lie to your beta bf and say it's his baby so he'll stick around and do the work of rearing (at least until it grows up a bit and he works out that it looks nothing like him lol)

[quote]she awoke to her own personnel nightmare

Sooner or later it all comes down to HR.

TBF, most women are pretty much brainwashed into following this life path. It's not until they pop out a kid or two when they realize it's not as wonderful as advertised. Fortunately, stats show the percentage of women choosing not to have kids or delay keeps growing.

[quote]I wonder how the husband feels reading this article? Or if he’s embarrassed that his friends have read it.

He probably doesn't give a shit.

R41, let me tell you something: you are too intelligent for this 'man' crap. I think that when you finally get a taste of it, you'll be either severely disappointed or left feeling absolutely numb - sincerely, I hope it's either one or the other, or maybe you simply won't like it. You've already understood and worked out too much, too far, to end up falling in / falling for the 'sex' trap. Especially if, by chance, you already have something to compare it to (women) when it happens, if it ever does. In any case, I think you'll find it deplorable. Or I hope you will, because it's just not worth it. It's not enough, even - or especially - physically. In any case, there's no such thing as 'hot sex' with a man for a woman with your kind of brains, and who is attracted to other women to boot; not really. I say all this with no snark whatsoever. I wish you well.

How can you have children and expect to be “left alone”??? Wtf! Even I knew that when I was a kid, I’ve always hated the thought of looking after a parasite. Being gay has its advantages.

[quote] it seems the best workaround is to cheat with a masc alpha male enough for him to get you preggers (and enjoy some hot sex), then lie to your beta bf

The alpha-beta people are so tiresome.

Women had it made, sit around the house all day, go to lunch… then they got all uppity and wanted to be men. Then the men became children and now they’re mad about it.

Women WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED! NEVER!

If you ever meet a woman who is satisfied, check her pulse.

R13 = the husband

[quote]I wonder how the husband feels reading this article? Or if he’s embarrassed that his friends have read it.

He's illiterate too

R48, is that you Phyllis Schlafly?

Judging by her arrested development displayed on her social media account, SHE’S the problem.

I think she had a clue about what the husband was like before she got pregnant. Was he doing his share of the stuff around the house?

Anyway, she better not get pregnant, again.

If she was actually left alone for Mothers' Day, you can bet she's bitch about that too

I was also expecting to roll my eyes at this, but I left feeling for her. It's why I've never wanted kids. Too much pressure and you're always going to fuck something up no matter what. Do everything right but miss one little league game or school play and they'll hang it over your head forever or you'll think that's why they had that drug problem in their early 20s or why they don't call that much in their 30s.

To those who want to take this life on, more power to you, but I hope you get some much deserved alone time every now and then to remind yourself that you're more than just a parent.

[quote]“All I Want for Mother’s Day Is to be Left the Fuck Alone!”

Or:

"When narcissists marry and breed and wreck innocent lives!"

That woman was stupid enough to write that the slang for Rock, Scissors, Paper is “roshambo.” WTF

Then again, she might fit in this lounge.

[quote]Rock, Scissors, Paper is “roshambo.”

What about Lizard and Spock?

R32 Because she thought getting married and having kids was mandatory and now she’s paying for it.

There are people who get married and have kids to flex and show their social status and hierarchy.

I remember turning 30 and my friends got married one after the other like dominoes. I also have a new friend who’s 31 who has been to two different weddings of his friends in the last month.

There’s all sorts of reasoning straight people have for doing this and then they all bitch about it after.

Straight people whether men or women always act like someone put a gun to their head and forced them all into doing it.

When I was a kid in the 1960s, the mother just opened the door and let the kids and the dog out to play. Now they have to be watched 24/7.

When we were kids we opened the door ourselves…Mom was too busy working.

Betty Friedan tried to warn her but would she listen?

Not having kids was the one thing I did right. I have never regretted not having kids. I didn't have any pressure from my mom to have kids. She always said that since I was the one who will have to raise them it should be my decision only. I am also an only child and statistically, we only have one child or no children. I think it would drive me crazy to have a parasite that you have to watch all your waking hours until they are older and then it gets worse.

Hey Lady!

He doesn’t want the life you want him to want!

This woman needs a big dose of Charlene, stat!

Lipstick/R45, thank you for the hype and for the vote of confidence. TNo offense taken whatsoever! Truthfully, you're one of my favourite posters on DL, and not merely out of Y chromosomal solidarity--what you have to say almost always strikes me as interesting, pertinent, smart and incisive. You are so straightforward and straight-talking, it's refreshing. I always find myself wanting to hear more of your takes and tales. So coming from you, your comment is high praise indeed! I am humbled and flattered.

[quote] This 'man' crap. I think that when you finally get a taste of it, you'll be either severely disappointed or left feeling absolutely numb - sincerely, I hope it's either one or the other, or maybe you simply won't like it. You've already understood and worked out too much, too far, to end up falling in / falling for the 'sex' trap. Especially if, by chance, you already have something to compare it to (women) when it happens, if it ever does.

Now I'm thinking of the game Mousetrap lol. You paint a specific and damning picture--if it's not an intrusive question, do you speak from experience with sleeping with men?

In all seriousness, though, this is something I'm intrigued to know about myself but also scared to discover. It's probably unusual and a bit deranged, but in a way I'm a heterophobic--I don't like that I'm in any way attracted to men, and I feel uncomfortable with the physical sensation of lust toward them (that is definitely and sadly there), because tbh I don't get along with straight men socially that well and find them annoying and rude at best. Even if I do end up fucking one or a few or several, I am dead set against cohabiting with one or marrying one, it's not happening ever. I watched my mother and my aunts and my cousins' girlfriends all make that mistake.

It's why I identify as febfem and sometimes even call myself lesbian as shorthand when it's easier or I'm dealing with straight people (I'm a goldstar and a virgin, so it's not...exactly a total lie?). The only men I'm attracted to are unavailable to me anyway, and there's probably a reason for that.

If I can have my druthers, my first time shall be with another woman. Imo, in most cases (but not all, obviously) women who prioritise other women sexually seem healthier and happier to me. Of course, life rarely works out exactly how we plan or wish, so I've come to a place of acceptance and openness to whatever comes (if it comes), while also keeping up safety guards and the like. Another irritating thing about me is that my desire nature and emotional nature conflict--the kind of sex I want (vigorous, fun, detached) isn't in line with what I want from emotional or physical intimacy, so idk how that plays out. One thing about females is that we are wired in a complicated way...

[quote] It's not enough, even - or especially - physically. In any case, there's no such thing as 'hot sex' with a man for a woman with your kind of brains, and who is attracted to other women to boot; not really.

Well, there's a good chance you're right, though...you're a little biased, you have to admit ;) I'd be honoured to earn my wings, though!

Do you really believe that women have to be limited to fuck men, though? And do you really think the mind always comes so much into it, re. sex? Genuine question, no snark! I ask mainly as overthinking has been the bane of my life in many ways, and my hope is/was that sex would be one area I wouldn't really have to engage with all that, for once Perhaps it's true what DL says, though--wherever you go, there you are.

I honestly believe that if there wasn't societal pressure to get married and have kids, you wouldn't see it as much.

I get the impression that the vast majority of mothers hate/hated being mothers, including my own. She seemed objectively miserable and made me feel like I was "smothering her" whenever I would want to cuddle with her. I was 4.

Now, she calls me too much and seems baffled by my socially withdrawn and cold personality. I imagine the same will happen to the author of this article when her child is an adult.

R10 Wit is not your thing, but you tried

R67 get a blog. And a therapist.

No gun in the house? America knows how to deal effectively with this situation.

[quote]In any case, there's no such thing as 'hot sex' with a man for a woman

r45 Absolutely zero lies were detected in this sentence.

That shit was horrible. And come to find out, that sort of experience is the norm for ~80% of straight women with men. They're not even cumming half of the time. Yet they still stay with men who don't satisfy them sexually, raising their offspring and being a glorified maid for "stability reasons." I'd be irritable, too.

Most men are terrible at sex with women.

R70, you think that post was wit? HA!

Bless your heart, R74

[quote] do you speak from experience with sleeping with men?

R67, do you not know that women do not have vaginal orgasms? This is a hard subject on the DL since most of the people here only know women from porn.

R76 [quote] women do not have vaginal orgasms

I can have an orgasm if I'm fucking on my side but is still not a vaginal orgasm because the guy's penis is rubbing against my clit in that position. I don't believe that women ever have a real vaginal orgasm.

R 8 nailed it.

R71 is sooooo wound lol. take a vike and have a sit down before your heart explodes

[quote] if it's not an intrusive question, do you speak from experience with sleeping with men?

R67, yes. When I was younger, I experimented with men - a few men, a few times. I wanted to know if I could feel anything, and I couldn't.

[quote] Do you really believe that women have to be limited to fuck men, though?

I believe they have to be limited to think that it will ever get better. They absolutely have to be limited to be in relationships with men, and live the sick, boring life that is the world of heterosexual.

Now, let's smell R76 for just a moment:

[quote] [R67], do you not know that women do not have vaginal orgasms?

False. Women absolutely can have vaginal orgasms, and those are delicious. If one is pounded in the right way / angle, for the right amount of time, one can very much possibly come (multiple times) from it, and without clitoral stimulation, too. Every woman is different; it might happen or not, but it 100% [italic]can[/italic] happen.

From the article at r77:

[quote]Most [bold]people[/bold] do not experience orgasms from vaginal stimulation alone but some [bold]people[/bold] can.

Because God forbid we actually say "women" when discussing women's sexual health.

Yes R81, but that's rare

In my case it was my HUSBEAR who took a fatal dose of Fentanyl and left me a grieving widow with 3 kids!!

- - Good Mormon Mom Kouri Richins

[quote] I don't believe that women ever have a real vaginal orgasm.

r78 There's this section of the vagina known as the posterior fornix...

^ Most men don't get women there because most men aren't making sure their women are properly aroused so the cervix moves out of the way to reach that area in the first place.

It might be 'rare' for heterosexual women, R83, but not for lesbians.

You can take a guess why.

r87 I'm a lesbian and I've never had a vaginal orgasm because I don't like penetration. Nothing goes in me. Ever. And it won't. Been there. Done that. Never again.

That said, statistically lesbians are, indeed, having more orgasms than straight women. Based on my past experiences with men, I'd wager the penis (and the clueless individual attached to it) has something to do with that.

What I want to know is why is this article even on DL. This a predominantly gay site. Why do gay men hate women so much? You seem to hate us more than even the straight men do.

Come to the light, honey!

[quote]You seem to hate us more than even the straight men do.

r89 I don't think a bunch of gay men bitchily clucking about women on the digital equivalent of a hen coop is worse than straight men going full-blown homicidal on women for refusing to give them the sex they feel entitled to.

Maybe don't take what you see on here personally, yeah?

[quote] I've never had a vaginal orgasm because I don't like penetration

That is one thing, and it makes perfect sense. It's different from being a woman who actually does like / love penetration, but cannot ever seem to have a vaginal orgasm.

[quote] Based on my past experiences with men, I'd wager the penis (and the clueless individual attached to it) has something to do with that

Yes. What I gather from my own experiences is that no penis is ever big enough, hard enough, or has enough strength, especially, to give me an orgasm; apart from the glaring fact that it's, well, attached to a man. I need it to be a woman fucking me, ramming me with the strength and stamina that only (willing) arms may possess, or only (willing) strapped-on hips may possess; I'll then orgasm helplessly. With that said, I love, love, love penetration.

I didn’t start this thread so you queens and tin lezzies could bitch about the validity of vaginal orgasms. What the fuck are you even talking about???

The broad in the think piece isn’t unsatisfied because she’s not (yet) gone dyke. Can’t you set aside your predatory urges long enough to sympathize with this idiot, or at least insult her first?

[quote] tin lezzies

^Love this.

[quote] isn’t unsatisfied because she’s not (yet) gone dyke

We don't want her, as she's clearly dumber than dirt. Every woman who ends up with her type of life is.

Thoughts and prayers.

R94 When I was about 11, my single mother worked as a dock worker for a warehouse. She interacted with a lot of delivery drivers, including one sweetly butch bulldyke who drove for DHL. The woman became a bit of a stalker, and developed strong feelings for my mom. She offered to move all of us to her farm and have a nice, outdoorsy, two-mommies life.

Mother was flattered, and maybe curious, but she was turned off by the woman’s ceaseless aggression. She figured if butch could be this determined when she was happy, she’d be pretty dangerous when mad. She still says she might go sapphic now that she’s old and beyond any sex or hormonal drama.

^2.5/10.

Say more.

[quote] Is she a senseless little whiner? Or is she just saying what most mothers secretly think?

False opposition.

[quote] What [R3] said.

[quote]Amen.

Can we send Kyle Reese back to the past to convince your mother of this?

Lipstick Lesbian, you ask the excellent question, Why do any women marry any men, at all?

As a straight woman (albeit one who never married or had much to do with straight men and is now gladly done with them), I've often wondered the same thing. It can't be the advantage of regular sex, because most men are abysmal in bed with women. Maybe some women want to be mothers, or just think they do.

But I've concluded that so much of it has to do with conferred status. For most women, marriage brings with it instant societal approval, regard, and respect. Moms rule!

Meanwhile, people look on never-married women--and men--as inherently suspicious. Maybe something is wrong with us. Maybe we prefer cats and dogs over kids. Maybe we hate cooking. Maybe we're--shhhh!--GAY!

Many women get married and have kids, in short, for the instant approval and status elevation. No one cares where they went to college or grad school or whether they have higher-level employment skills. Even in today's world, they can ride a great deal on a husband's accomplishments and the reflexive embrace of society.

That's my straight-woman theory, FWIW. Always look for your incisive posts, BTW.

FCF... you're not straight. No woman with your brains, in the entire history of the planet, has ever been straight. Pray on it and then get back to us.

The rest of your post sounds absolutely correct, in my view.

[quote]There's this section of the vagina known as the posterior fornix...

Why do men keep making up new body parts to justify the "vaginal" orgasm? Because they want it to be true sooo badly. Ask any gyn if these body parts exist, the answer is always no.

R99, women marry men because they're emotionally and physically attracted to them. Most of them know how to get off easily by themselves and tolerate what passes for sex with their partner. It's not so bad if you know what to expect.

^imo straight/bi women also tolerate bad sex and don’t seek it outside of their relationship because of the traditional and unfair slut-shaming women get if they cheat or have open arrangements. Though this taboo is finally starting to recede, it’s still not at a point where women can casually seek alternative dick like gay men do.

R101, thanks for explaining. (No sarcasm at all.)

"It's not so bad if you know what to expect." Fascinating if incomprehensible to me. Like the first scene in Dressed to Kill, where Angie Dickinson gets pounded like a rag doll first thing in the morning by her husband. Seems like an awful life to me, but if other women are all right with it, I guess that's not for me to judge.

What makes me irritable is women who choose to marry men and have kids, only to whine about it. Agree with the other posters about making your own bed.

Lipstick Lesbian, many thanks for understanding that straight women are not all unquestioning proponents of the standard-issue straight life.

FCF: whatever you have to tell yourself to get through the day or the night. I always know what I'm seeing. I've seen it a billion times before.

It doesn't matter either way (none of it does). I wish you well with all my heart.

The husband is not very attractive per her Instagram.

It’s always easier to forgive big-dicked hotties.

About this:

[quote] women marry men because they're emotionally and physically attracted to them.

Okay. So you're emotionally and physically attracted to some simpleton animals who are inferior in everything, and who do not value, understand, or respect you to boot. Because they don't - they never do, and they don't care. That's who / how / what they are, and you know it. I have zero respect for this. I don't know who you are, R101, and I'm not saying I have zero respect for [italic]you[/italic], but I have zero respect for [bold]this[/bold]. To me, that's when you start making your own bed. You're attracted to trash? Thoughts and prayers / play stupid games, win stupid prizes / you get what you deserve. And if one looks at what's coming next, some other things you said, it becomes clear: you don't deserve any better.

[quote] Most of them know how to get off easily by themselves and tolerate what passes for sex with their partner.

How utterly miserable and tragic. I hope the "societal approval, regard and respect" R99 speaks of is worth living in such astounding mediocrity.

[quote] It's not so bad if you know what to expect.

'Mediocrity' is right - you're all basic, stupid and pitiful. You're average in essence, and maybe 'average' is precisely what rocks your boat. That's fine, as most people are, indeed, exactly as you are. You're the majority.

You do you, and we, the gays and lesbians, will do us. You like living on crumbles, knock yourself out; peck away. When you get sick of it and decide to write a think piece such as the one in OP, we'll give out what we already do: zero fucks. No sympathy.

What a monumental waste of time it is to even ponder on why you are the way you are, and do things the way you do. You're ordinary - it's that simple.

Thank you for the clarification.

One silver lining of run away living costs, albeit slim, is that younger generations are eschewing the "life script": college, marriage, babies and so on. It's unattainable, so why even try?

Good thing, too. It's hard to understand certain things when you are younger, including how much drudgery goes into raising a young family.

[quote]R13 She’s mad because her husband didn’t know to make a reservation for brunch?

It was on Mothers Day, a notorious madhouse In restaurants. It’s like someone telling you, “I’m going to take you out somewhere for Thanksgiving dinner,” then arriving to find they never made a reservation and there’s a 2 hour wait.

So divorce. Get your life back. Get your days off while your child is with your husband half the week.

Women definitely don’t get married to have sex. Women aren’t as sexual as men. Some women want to stop having sex after marriage and kids.

I know one woman who’s divorcing her husband because he cheated on her. She hadn’t had sex with him for 15 years and she says her marriage was great and she was shocked.

I don’t see anything wrong with this. If she wants to rest on mother’s day then let her rest. And a big fuck you to her dumbass husband who didn’t think to make reservations.

[quote]You seem to hate us more than even the straight men do.

We see you as fellow humans. Straight men see you as babymakers.

Major lezzer vibes from her.

Common. Straight women say "All I want for mother's day is the chance to sleep all day!".

But the one thing their husbands don't want to do is to take responsibility for the kids for an entire Sunday.

t95, when my Black Widow mother (2 dead husbands, including my father) turned around 70, she tried doing social media dating and it didn't work. She had jokingly said, "Maybe I'll turn lesbian", and I countered with, "Would you be willing to go down there?" and she blushed furiously and said, "Uh I didn't think about that....I changed my mind!"

[quote] It was on Mothers Day, a notorious madhouse In restaurants.

Their son is two so this may have only been the first or second time the husband had to think about a Mother’s Day Plan.

And only a year in between to think about it…

My childless friends are the happiest.

And it is nice. Nap when you want, grocery shop at midnight, etc.

[quote] Women aren’t as sexual as men

This shit again. Women are plenty sexual, as useless as it is to compare them to men.

Let me leave you with a little food for thought right here.

I hate that stupid scene, R119. Total bullshit. Neither women nor MEN are all that sexual at age 80+

Women aren’t as sexual as men is generally true, but the fact that straight men are total imbeciles in bed should be taken into account.

She writes that both she and her husband work from home. Devil spawn or no, this is a recipe for disaster. If they’re in a house and have a detached garage or anything similar, that has to be made over as a workspace for ONE of them. The idea of being caged with another person (ANY person) 24/7 makes my skin crawl.

I think what I’d do is agree with spouse that Saturday is Daddy Day with Jr. and Sunday is Mommie Day with Jr. Then we could each break free for a private day of golf, or lunch with friends and a class or gallery trips or whatever. You’d still have to fit in errands or what have you during the week, but everyone needs a day off, don’t they?? I realize I’m privileged… but to do without doses of private, uninterrupted free time is inconceivable to me. Maybe that’s why rich people send their kids off to boarding school. BYE!

A lot of straight men firmly believe that women don't like sex, or stop liking sex after a certain age. The truth seems to be that women stop liking sex with a particular man, after she's gotten really sick of his shit.

Case in point at link, but everyone who's ever spent time around straight women has seen these marriages.

R116 Way to make excuses for loser men. He isn’t a child. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that if you plan to go out to eat on ANY holiday, you make reservations.

[quote]R108 It was on Mothers Day, a notorious madhouse In restaurants.

[quote]R116 Their son is two so this may have only been the first or second time the husband had to think about a Mother’s Day Plan.

Surely he’d been to restaurants while dating? Securing a reservation is usually part of the whole plan.

There’s little excuse for his thick headed doltishness. Though it’s partially her fault for marrying an idiot.

Because you're surely apt and qualified to speak for EVERY 80+ woman AND man (!!!) out there, R120, we know. What a genius.

Take a look at the YouTube comments, you piteous motherfucker, so you can hear from actual people who are more senior than you are (you say you grew up in the 1960s, right?), and see how THEY feel. How MULTITUDES of them feel.

[quote] I hate that stupid scene

Now watch the Missy Nation come for your ass.

This part I LOVE. 10/10. With just this post of yours at R120, you managed to prove [bold]all[/bold] the points I had made at R106.

R67 - if you were looking for examples / an answer to your question "Do you really believe that women have to be limited to fuck men?", here is one. Put R120 on ignoredar, if you will, and behold her idiocy + misery in full glory.

Stupid fucking fraus.

R125 = octogenarian with issues

Lipstick Lesbian at R106, I think we're really in agreement about R101's comments, except I'm more in the head-scratching mode of just not understanding why so many women are ready to endure what seems like unremitting drudgery, sexually and otherwise, but especially sexually. R101's explanation for me is sincerely puzzling.

The man in the article at R122 should be locked in a gulag jfc.

For those who didn't click the link: he throws away his wife's sex toys, tries to fuck her while she's sleeping (which is assault/rape), demands she partake in kinky sex she's uncomfortable with (she doesn't mention a type, but one presumes anal or BDSM comes into it), criticizes and mocks her body (even telling her she needs personal training--even if true, it's not his place to say or demand), compares her unfavourably to his hotter and presumably younger female coworkers, rouses and berates her frequently for domestic ineptitude that he himself displays e.g.on her birthday for not waking up in the middle of the night to tend to their kid (when he's already awake), and eschews quality time with her/their kids to go to a strip club. Then has the audacity to whine to Reddit neckbeards about the fact she won't have sex with him.

As I don't have a Reddit account I can't access the update to find out whether or not she left his sorry arse. I hope so.

He will never satisfy her emotionally. 🚬

Know that. 🍸

[quote] I'm more in the head-scratching mode of just not understanding why so many women are ready to endure what seems like unremitting drudgery

R127 - because you don't think like they do, girl. You don't understand the minds of heterosexual women because your own mind is not that of a heterosexual woman. You're [bold]not[/bold] one of [italic]them[/italic]. That's what I've been saying.

Notice how candidly R101 et al. thinks that everything she's been telling us here is normal. "It is the way it is; that's how it works". To her, and others of her kind, all of this mediocre atrocity [italic]makes sense[/italic]. It is her / their way of life. They accept it. They don't have enough neurons to take a good look at it and realize what many of the good people here - gay posters - do: it's not normal. It isn't. It's too little, too dreadful of / for a life. But to her, it is *the* way to live.

When you have kids you loose your turn of being one. My cousin is finding this out and she's miserable.

[quote]R130 Notice how candidly [R101] et al. thinks that everything she's been telling us here is normal. "It is the way it is; that's how it works". To her, and others of her kind, all of this mediocre atrocity makes sense. It is her / their way of life. They accept it. They don't have enough neurons to take a good look at it and realize what many of the good people here - gay posters - do: it's not normal. It isn't. It's too little, too dreadful of / for a life. But to her, it is *the* way to live

To elaborate on what you’re raising, I don’t think this model is something women invented, it’s a structure that’s been firmly in place in most cultures for centuries. Cultures that are patriarchal. It is changing for some, but not everyone across the world leaps on board just because a woman decides to be independent. So you might be independent, but if you’re straight you’ll have much fewer options for a partner to be independent WITH. The expected roles are very deeply ingrained, coming from every angle, for most people.

I mean, the ERA never passed. How much support is really out there?

I think most parents, naturally, want to have alone time and get sick of being a spouse/parent at times, along with really enjoying it at times. So her sentiment isn't that surprising, though the "on Mother's Day" angle beefs it up a little.

It's 2023 on the internet. She wants attention , so she's playing up some non-struggle. Other than the normal ups and downs of being a parent, I highly doubt she's that pressed about it. She wants/craves any backlash she might get. "On Mother's Day, oh my, who would say that?" She's so edgy. Jesus.

[quote] Most parents, naturally, want to have alone time and get sick of being a spouse/parent at times, along with really enjoying it at times.

Reminds me of this fantastic rant I read years ago on Mumsnet, where a woman complained that her friends and family got her useless gifts for her birthday and Xmas, when what she really wanted was for them to take her babies/toddler off her hands for a few afternoons or nights one week so she could have a long bath or go for a drink or get a massage etc. Apparently her DH never did shit to help or give her any time off from childcare, either, and they both had jobs.

Good for her, I agree. Raising kids, especially nowadays, is no picnic. And these days it feels like if parents leave their kids alone even for thirty minutes, people jump down their throats and call them neglectful.

[quote] I don’t think this model is something women invented, it’s a structure that’s been firmly in place in most cultures for centuries

Of course. That's not an excuse to accept living on crumbs, however.

[quote] It is changing for some, but not everyone across the world leaps on board just because a woman decides to be independent

And so THAT is an excuse not to take the plunge? "Oh, it's difficult; let me [italic]not[/italic] do it". Are you a frau? You sound like a frau.

[quote] So you might be independent, but if you’re straight you’ll have much fewer options for a partner to be independent WITH

Girl, [italic]WHAT[/italic]? "Independent [bold]WITH[/bold]"? Please refer to the dictionary for the meaning of the word 'independent' / 'independence'.

Yes, you most certainly are a frau. When you say "options for a partner to be independent WITH", you're thinking of being partnered with a man. That's what's behind your entire post at R132: "OMG, how do I do this while being / wanting to be partnered with a man, in this patriarchal society? I can't do it! They won't let me! Actually, it's too hard - so why would I even try?". That's what you mean. Like I said, no neurons.

Please send in the next frau with the next question for Auntie Lipstick to try to address. God help us - you're all the same; same cookie-cutter.

[quote]R133 I think most parents, naturally, want to have alone time and get sick of being a spouse/parent at times, along with really enjoying it at times.

The day to day child rearing by parents usually falls more heavily on the moms than the dads, though. It’s not 50/50.

Often mothers automatically pick up the slack because they’re simply more invested. For most mothers, a deeper bond has been created just through carrying the child and then nursing it.

My sister visited me out of state when her kids were little and I said, “They must be disoriented with you gone, because you do so much with them” She said, “Well, when they’re with their dad, they’ve just come to expect… less.”

Until at least the age of 3, children tend to cling to their mother. Couples can divide the Mommy & Daddy days all they want, but nature wants the nurture of the mother. Children know the milk comes from the mother.

Well, milk or formula can also can be put in bottles at some point in there, if dads agree to be involved with feeding.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to frau central, where we're suddenly talking about bottles of formula. Ten dollars says R138 (who is also R132 etc.) is a 'bisexual' frau. She's over at the Brooke Shields thread saying she likes "older men".

Dear Baby J: don't let this thread become more of a fraucalypse than it already has. FF these stoopid breeders. This is a gay space. Please head over to Mumsnet to discuss breastfeeding, toddler attachment and deadbeat baby daddies.

Sincerely,

[quote]r139 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to frau central, where we're suddenly talking about bottles of formula.

NEWSFLASH: LGBT can be parents, too, bitch!

Welcome to modern times.

[quote]R139 Ten dollars says [R138] (who is also [R132] etc.) is a 'bisexual' frau. She's over at the Brooke Shields thread saying she likes "older men".

Dear Lipstick Lesbian:

Can we enjoy some solidarity even though I’m not female? As a show of good faith I will waive collecting the ten dollars.

[quote]Why do men keep making up new body parts to justify the "vaginal" orgasm? Because they want it to be true sooo badly. Ask any gyn if these body parts exist, the answer is always no.

First of all, r101, I'm not a man, I'm a woman.

Second of all, the vaginal fornix, indeed, exists. Any woman with an OB-GYN who doesn't know this would be advised to switch providers immediately.

I know that well, motherfucker at R140, as I've done my share of child-rearing (somebody else's - a toddler, too) in the past. You don't see me blabbering on about it here, though, because this is NOT Mumsnet. This is not the place to do that, specifically.

Brother at R141, I hear you - you show the fraus some solidarity now, because my shift is over. I can't do this anymore, not tonight. If I may, I'd like to refer all other betters to you, so you might collect their money (even if you won't take mine).

Thank you.

Women are exhausting. I tune them out as a rule. Most are hysterical, shrill cunts.

[quote]r139 … She's over at the Brooke Shields thread…

All else aside, THANK YOU for reminding us it’s high time for a good Brooke Shields attachment!

[quote]Women aren’t as sexual as men.

The Devil is a lie.

[quote]Some women want to stop having sex after marriage and kids.

r110 Because most of them are married to an insipid, uncoordinated, oaf who consistently fails to satisfy them sexually. The desire doesn't disappear, the incentive to fuck their sexually inept husbands does.

The "women aren't as sexual as men" narrative is a cope created by a bunch of pathetic, one-two-punch, minutemen who refuse to accept that they're the problem in the bedroom. It also soothes their delicate egos to sincerely believe that their women would never consider seeking sexual gratification from a more virile candidate outside of the relationship.

[quote]knowledge of basic childcare doesn’t make you a “frau”

But it sure does make you dull.

The truth is coming from INSIDE THE THREAD!

Who the fuck is this know it all lip-lez and her internalized misogyny? I think she is a he, the trolling kind. Last few days, she/he is popping up on women centered threads, and popping off. Even on harmless posters like NoPalmOil.

While fat cube frau (lol) gives LL a sloppy tongue bath.

[quote] I think she is a he

Get in line.

[quote] NoPalmOil

Dear Mother of God. This bitch.

[quote] fat cube frau (lol) gives LL a sloppy tongue bath

Don't conjure up such images - my [italic]dream[/italic] is to have FCF give me a sloppy tongue bath. I have a massive, massive crush on her, and she won't give me the time of day.

Not FCF, but it's 5:53 pm EDT here.

[quote] Because she thought getting married and having kids was mandatory and now she’s paying for it.

Or, she wanted it because she wanted it and did it without thinking it through.

Does that mean everything's already closed for tongue business? It's always something.

[quote]r110 Some women want to stop having sex after marriage and kids.

[quote]R146 Because most of them are married to an insipid, uncoordinated, oaf who consistently fails to satisfy them sexually. The desire doesn't disappear, the incentive to fuck their sexually inept husbands does.

I’d theorize moms anre also often exhausted, and feeling grubby.

If a husband/father wanted to facilitate sex, if he were smart he’d make dinner for the kids himself and feed them/tuck them in while the mom relaxed in a bubble bath with some wine - so she could wash off the day, relax, and get in the mood.

A lot of men aren’t good about going out of their way for wives in that way, even when it’s in their own best interests.

[quote]r149 Who the fuck is this know it all lip-lez and her internalized misogyny? I think she is a he, the trolling kind.

I myself was wondering why our “lipstick lesbian” sounds like a bitter, hissing queen.

Lipstick lesbian is getting on my nerves.

[quote]Women are exhausting.

r144 So are the elderly, but we tolerate you and your confusion at performing remedial, modern, tasks like self-checkout, anyway.

R155 tbh if you spend enough years on DL, you're bound eventually to transform into a bitter hissing queen, sex and orientation irrespective. This place will do that to you.

r150 Hold up. What exactly is your problem with NoPalmOil? I've never seen her post anything remotely in the realm of being a problem.

Also...we get it, sis:

Why do we even have Mother's/Father's Day? Really, I wanna know. It's just upholding the nuclear patriarchal idea of a 'family'. There's no Guncle's Day. No Lesbian Spinster Aunt's Day. No Long Suffering Child's Day.

r160 Because some people actually had/have good relationships with their parents unlike the rest of us poor bastards.

Looking at the photo and reading the statement made by this mother*, I detect that hers was a request that was easily and happily accommodated today.

Looks like "Lipstick Lesbian" has given up trying to fool us - note every stupid post "she" did on this thread.

[quote] What exactly is your problem with NoPalmOil?

Well, R159, you're a lesbian with a brain - if you watch NoFuckOil closely, you'll see that she's a dismissive, condescending frau, solidly on the side of stupid, who's never seen an ugly photograph (of whatever or whoever it might be) that she didn't like. You can smell her all over the board praising the tacky, the basic and the outrageous, and acting like a Look-At-Me-I'm-Winning generic housewife to a man, which is precisely what she is out there in real life.

Remember when you didn't know that poster from Croatia was *actually* a Croatian troll pest, and you asked me to show you? Well, I'm not gonna do that with no NoFuckOil, you'll have to observe for yourself. By now, however, you know me enough to be sure that if I say something is e.g. yellow, at some point you'll most certainly find out that it IS, indeed, yellow. So, just as you ended up realizing that Zoran was the Croatian troll pest I said he was, I know you'll end up finding that NoFuckOil is a fake-ass frau bitch who thinks she's superior to all of the gays here. Watch.

I'm not sure what you meant by posting the 2 Chainz song, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was nothing too bad.

On a separate note, R155 and 156 are frau and frauer, naturally - one of them is too lazy to 'fight the patriarchy' and be independent, says elsewhere that she likes "older men"; the other one is the very 60+ year-old frau who called you a MAN and told you that "posterior fornix" doesn't exist, and it's something that men "invented". They're both upset because I called each of them out on their respective BS, and said to their faces that they are stupid (as in really, really lacking in intelligence) fraus, which they are.

crazy people think that if they are married with kids, their life will become normal. They think if they are mothers, people will respect them. It is illogical thinking, obviously.

R163 above is, of course, also R156 etc.; in other words, the posterior fornix denialist.

Good luck with all those bitches - they are straight women who think that they belong here, and they'll keep on trying to convince you that they have a brain and something to contribute, which, unfortunately, they don't. I would suggest to them that find their own spaces, but they're never going to do that. They'll just try to hijack ours.

Don't let the camel get its nose under the tent.

Lipstick Lesbian = major meltdown

R157 Oh honey. I don't got to grocery stores. I have them deliver while I stretch out on the lanai with my sippypoos. Now run along and let the grown ups visit.

Oh, darling R167. Somebody asked, I answered. That's all.

Stop looking to unborn children as the solution to fundamental happiness - with one's self, husband, family and in-laws, financial status (babies will not improve it), aging, place in the greater scheme of things, the drone of work and ordinary life, sense of personal fulfillment, etc., etc.

Thinking that turning all of your life around to focus on a kid for the next 18 (or 35) years seems the mistake. Not thinking the father was going to sing breakfast food songs or.take the lead.in toilet time with the kid or make Mothers' Day a three-monthgetaway in Tuscany without the baby and with copious amounts of booze and Valium.

[quote]R160 There's no Guncle's Day. No Lesbian Spinster Aunt's Day. No Long Suffering Child's Day.

I have a holiday suggestion…

Lip Stick Lesbian or whomever you are, you need fucking help, badly. Take a break, you're one streak and it ain't good. You are here because a woman gave birth to you. Women aren't perfect, nobody is. Everyone has regrets about something. I've got 2 sons and I've never regretted having them, but I can't say some things weren't hard. It's like that for a lot of parents. Why you're driving this thread with so much anger and hate, I don't know. Shut up and go rest.

^God help us.

How surprising.

A cunting cunt is a cunting cunt.

Honestly, r164/LL I don't need actual examples because NoPalmOil signs all of her posts and I've, personally, never been bothered by them. That's why I didn't know if it was something specific she said that had you so disgruntled. That said, it sounds like you just have a low opinion of her (and straight women in general) because she's partnered with a man.

Just because they like men doesn't mean we're intellectually above them because we don't and vice versa. And the 2 Chainz vid was me calling you out for giving off those "pick me/not like other girls" vibes again (which you've done previously). You have your moments where you're cool. Other times, you are extra af. This is one of those times. Just keeping it 100.

Also, r156 thinking I'm a man makes sense since the majority of posters here are male. Her not knowing the full details of the female anatomy (and being tragically confident with this lack of knowledge) is, to me, a sad commentary on how severely lacking education is in the field of women's sexual and reproductive health (erm...I mean... [italic]people with vaginas' sexual and reproductive health[/italic] ) for actual women. It wasn't until recently that it became "acceptable" to publicly discuss breast cancer. Just saying.

I appreciate all you've said, R175.

[quote] we essentially roshambo to decide who has to be on kid duty and who gets to hide in our bedroom. [/quote]

Why can't she just write "rock, paper, scissors"? Who even calls it roshambo?

R177 the name of the game IS Rochambeau. She’s just part of the stupid generation that requires dumbed-down words.

I thought Rochambeau was when you pretended to make rock-paper-scissors, and then kicked your opponent squah in the nuts.

It's how Eric Cartman gets things done.

r178 Speaking of dumbed-down, it's apocryphal that the game has anything to do with Count Rochambeau, thus this "roshambo" etymology insisting upon itself is nothing but pretentiousness.

^ that didn’t make too much sense…

r128: He read the post. He disagreed with everything I said and we have been living apart since he screen shot my post and asked if it was about him.

The gust of it is that He thinks that I don’t put enough effort into being physically attractive to him so in his mind it’s okay to not put effort into sex and want to cheat. “Men are visual creatures.” He thinks that he should be able to experience everything he wants sexually even if I don’t want it because I’m his wife and it’s my obligation to keep him happy. That was shocking to hear. This is not the man I married.

We are going through with divorce and I couldn’t be happier. My life is infinitely easier without him in it.

Sorry if this is anti-climatic, I don’t really have the energy to type out everything that happened. Maybe I will someday. I’m currently getting ready for a custody battle because he said he would get full custody and never let me see the kids.

I truly didn’t think my post would get as much attention as it did, I wrote it out of anger.

Thank you to everyone who commented and reached out privately. You gave me the confidence to go through with the divorce.

[quote]The gust of it

Pics please.

Why do people believe these anonymous ESTs they read on Reddit?