New album, TENSION, out Sept. 22.
First single, Padam Padam already leaked in low quality and is likely out through proper channels next week.
(Padam Padam is supposedly an onomatopoeia for the sound of your lover's heartbeat)
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New album, TENSION, out Sept. 22.
First single, Padam Padam already leaked in low quality and is likely out through proper channels next week.
(Padam Padam is supposedly an onomatopoeia for the sound of your lover's heartbeat)
|by Anonymous||reply 200||June 2, 2023 12:41 AM|
Teeny preview here. Sounds a little edgier than her more recent work.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||May 12, 2023 10:21 PM|
Why was she never much of a thing in the States?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||May 12, 2023 10:24 PM|
I sure hope the whole album isn't as overproduced as this song is.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||May 12, 2023 10:27 PM|
Sounds horrible. And Disco is so fucking good!
|by Anonymous||reply 4||May 12, 2023 10:47 PM|
She is ALL about production. I’d hate it if it was NOT overproduced I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||May 12, 2023 10:57 PM|
R2 Too poppy and European-looking/sounding.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||May 12, 2023 10:58 PM|
Please for the love of God not another why wasn't Kylie bigger in the US thread? R2 she wasn't because Americans are stupid and have no taste.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||May 12, 2023 11:00 PM|
Saw Dannii the other day guesting on The One Show. She looked fucking hot. How does she look so good, and at her age?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||May 12, 2023 11:03 PM|
R8 - Dannii's not THAT old. Fifty-one isn't what it was a generation ago. Plus, you know, good genes and lots of $$$ helps.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||May 12, 2023 11:10 PM|
R9 true lol. That said I know current fifty-somethings who look like gargoyles covered in melted candle wax.
Dannii's looked after herself fantastically (that skin on an Aussie!), and must have a top-notch personal trainer and stylist if nothing else.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||May 12, 2023 11:14 PM|
R8 A never ending stream of cosmetic procedures.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||May 12, 2023 11:16 PM|
Something WILD is going on. A BUNCH of demos (and, seemingly fully completed but unreleased) tracks from the DISCO era are leaking one by one right now. And some of them are fabulous and better than the final Disco tracks. If you an track down The Loneliest Kind of Lover (Disco unreleased track) it's SO good. It's like Kylie does Disco through a Janet lens. How did THAT song not make the album, but Monday Blues did???
Sorry, don't want to provide direct links and get banned, but if you search via Bing (because for some reason Bing is better for leaks), Twitter or Discord, you might find them, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||May 12, 2023 11:27 PM|
R12 Kylie always had some very good unreleased tracks/b-sides. This one is better than at least half of Light Years, but wasn't included on the album.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||May 12, 2023 11:36 PM|
R13 - true, she did leave some gems behind. I love this one that got left behind in the Aphrodite era....
|by Anonymous||reply 14||May 12, 2023 11:40 PM|
[quote] she wasn't because Americans are stupid and have no taste.
Honey, go back listening to your childish Eurovision crap.
That being said, Kylie is great. Madonna has ripped off her looks for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||May 12, 2023 11:53 PM|
R7, I didn't realize this is a recurring topic. I was only wondering out loud why she isn't more popular. Her music isn't much different than other pop music.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||May 13, 2023 1:41 AM|
Kylie needs to take a rest now. She's been pumping out vanilla garbage for years just for the sake of it. Time for a rest and then in a year or so a greatest hits tour and then time to retire and come out of retirement for special appearances occasionally. Madonna needs to do this too.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||May 13, 2023 2:01 AM|
Kylie doesn't care about changing for America and thank God for that. She belongs to the world (and enlightened Americans). The US music industry stinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||May 13, 2023 2:25 AM|
There are now almost 20-something leaks out there in the past 24 hours or so. Guess some intern had had enough or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||May 13, 2023 8:23 PM|
Kylie, do not take a rest now!! The world needs you now more than ever!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||May 13, 2023 8:35 PM|
Suck my left nut r17. You take a rest. Kylie last album in 2020 the Disco album was fucking brilliance. I can’t wait to hear what she does next.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||May 13, 2023 11:02 PM|
Can I also say Disco debuted at number 26 on the Billboard 200 here in the US and Number 1 on the US Dance chart. So she has a solid base here.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||May 13, 2023 11:05 PM|
The single out's Thursday and she's performing on the American Idol finale. She always does American promo, but doing it this early perhaps suggests there's some validity to these Vegas residency rumors? Or maybe it was just opportunistic.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||May 15, 2023 8:23 PM|
35 years ago today Kylie was in the UK top ten with her second single.
Other artists in the charts that week who are still releasing new music are Bananarama, Belinda Carlisle, Pet Shop Boys
Other artists in the charts that week who are not releasing new music, due to being unalive, are Prince, Michael Jackson, Natalie Cole, Ofra Haza, George Michael. Patrick Swayze
|by Anonymous||reply 24||May 15, 2023 8:33 PM|
The chorus sounds very... Eastern European? Or perhaps even Middle Eastern in influence?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||May 16, 2023 12:57 PM|
R25 That snippet has a very "Bollywood meets electronica" sound.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||May 16, 2023 1:00 PM|
I like the vibe of this look. It's very... Area 51, glam aliens land near abandoned motel.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||May 16, 2023 1:01 PM|
R26 - oh, yes, you're absolutely right. I'm not hating it. Though, I hope it turns out better than her last foray in that direction.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||May 16, 2023 1:04 PM|
It's just officially debuted on UK radio and is on streaming. It's going to be a huge hit for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||May 18, 2023 8:19 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 30||May 18, 2023 8:58 AM|
I'm obsessed it's so great.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||May 18, 2023 10:03 AM|
I wish she’d tour with the Disco album.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||May 18, 2023 11:30 AM|
She will definitely do Disco material in the next tour.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||May 18, 2023 11:56 AM|
I wish this didn't look so cheap. I know music video budgets aren't what they once were, but, still.
Catchy song, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||May 18, 2023 1:19 PM|
Catchy. Will get old fast. I generally like her music because she puts out these catchy, listenable tunes. It’s ear candy and not really meant to be more than that.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||May 18, 2023 1:30 PM|
Thanks, Kylie. Now “takeadump, takeadump”:is stuck in my brain.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||May 18, 2023 3:41 PM|
I love it. It would have absolutely destroyed Eurovision.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||May 18, 2023 3:43 PM|
R34 I think the video is meant to look cheap, with a trailer trash meets glam vibe.
The song is okay. Catchy, but forgettable. It won't be a hit in the U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||May 18, 2023 4:12 PM|
I don’t get it- is the title supposed to indicate the sound of her heart? Is that a reference to something? I’m American, it sounds kinda dumb. I’m a Kylie fan but this one is a No for me, dawg.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||May 18, 2023 6:20 PM|
I don't think the video looks especially cheap for 2023. It's not one of her better ones though.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||May 18, 2023 10:14 PM|
R39: The title refers to the noise a heart makes and is French slang.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||May 18, 2023 10:15 PM|
R38 Kylie have up on the US along time ago. I actually really like it, sounds breezy and not hugely overthought.
She looks great in the video, sexy without being underdressed. A little harder in her features maybe but she's 55!
I hope she gets some airplay, radio is very ageist
|by Anonymous||reply 42||May 18, 2023 10:25 PM|
Love the song and video. On first listen, wasn't too sure. On second listen, I was hooked. It's got an issue in that it's too short; it needed to come back for two more repeats of the chorus at the end. At 2:45, it's too short because it's very addicting.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||May 18, 2023 10:26 PM|
Btw that's one of my favourite album covers she's done
|by Anonymous||reply 44||May 18, 2023 10:27 PM|
R43, I agree - under three minutes is far too short. I like the new song - I have decent hopes for the album. Love Kylie and her specific brand of disposable dance music.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||May 18, 2023 10:48 PM|
Now I know who she reminds me of: those helium-voiced songstresses who sang Middle Eastern music.
Actually they all sounded the same; maybe it was just one woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||May 18, 2023 11:03 PM|
I wish she hadn't had work done on her nose back in the 90s. It was not needed and it's not ageing well. Great song.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||May 18, 2023 11:10 PM|
I think these short singles are here to stay. They help drive up streaming numbers. Agree that it could use another chorus or a middle 8 or bridge or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||May 18, 2023 11:48 PM|
I always wondered why she never made more of an effort to learn how to dance for videos and concerts. She essentially poses.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||May 18, 2023 11:53 PM|
R49 Probably because she just doesn't have the skills to be even a passable dancer. Plus, now that she's reaching the other side of her 50s, moving around becomes more physically challenging.
They tried to get Whitney Houston to dance in videos and finally gave up on that, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||May 18, 2023 11:55 PM|
R49 her performances are entertaining and she puts on a great show, I don't care if she dances
|by Anonymous||reply 51||May 18, 2023 11:56 PM|
R49 I once saw an interview with Sheena Easton, and she said they tried to teach her to dance in her videos in the 1980s, but everyone soon realized she had two left feet, and that's why she mostly stood and posed instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||May 18, 2023 11:56 PM|
Has there ever been an artist who could dance well and sing live at the same time?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||May 18, 2023 11:58 PM|
R53 Madonna was pretty good at it during her heyday.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||May 18, 2023 11:59 PM|
I think Madge was the first. She visibly struggles now. But I think she led the way for “entertainers” like Britney. It’s the whole package of autotune, sexualization and dancing.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||May 19, 2023 12:01 AM|
But was Madge actually singing live? It seems like it would be very hard to breathe well enough to give good live vocals unless the dancing is pretty simple
|by Anonymous||reply 56||May 19, 2023 12:03 AM|
What's your favourite or least favourite album cover? I like the simplicity of her 1994 album although I wish they'd given it a distinctive name and released a different third single and a fourth
|by Anonymous||reply 57||May 19, 2023 12:06 AM|
Madonna did sing and dance at the same time in the 80s at least, before lip synching became a thing with pop stars during dance routines. She was good at it. Having seen most of Kylie's tours I can objectively say she puts on a much better show than Madonna. More crowd pleasing in most senses, including delivering the hits and creating a fun spectacle. Complaining Kylie doesn't formally dance when she is a better entertainer onstage than Madonna seems a silly detail.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||May 19, 2023 12:09 AM|
I really like the song. She's gorgeous and great as always. But the video is largely a series of missed opportunities. The excessive number of dancers clutter the screen doing choreography that doesn't really work with the tone of the song, and that a number of locations (or the way they staged those locations) featured are wrong for a song whose themes are darkly intimate, is what blows it for me.
Tonally, it should have been a bit darker, sexier, and more intimate (the "intimate" bits are the best bits in this video). Like a dark, sexy dance music perfume commercial, if one wants starting references.
Perhaps what I'm suggesting is the obvious choice they may have attempted to avoid in making the video the produced, but I guess that's only because I feel the video they delivered feels like most of it belongs to another song from twenty-five years ago. And not in the good way.
But I enjoy the song, and I'm definitely looking forward to perusing the album.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||May 19, 2023 12:15 AM|
I don't know why people compare her to Madonna (other than Madonna ripping off Kylie's looks for two of her albums in the 2000's) They really have nothing in common.
Kylie has always been obviously influenced by Olivia Newton John. So much so, that I was a little surprised that Kylie didn't take part in Olivia's state funeral, not even giving a video tribute as others did (Rupaul, Mariah Carey, Elton John, Nicole Kidman). Danni attended.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||May 19, 2023 12:16 AM|
Nah, R58. Madge’s concerts are infinitely better.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||May 19, 2023 12:17 AM|
R61: No they aren't. They are self indulgent; the lack of hits and catalogue material, the coldness, the lack of fun. Recent Madonna concerts suck.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||May 19, 2023 12:19 AM|
Oi R62 pay your $400 and shut up!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||May 19, 2023 12:27 AM|
R53 Yes Kate Bush on her 1979 tour, many years before Madonna. There was only one song that Kate couldn’t sing live and dance at the same time, so instead of miming she simple performed a dance to that track.
Kate Bush was the first to use a microphone wired next to her mouth on this tour to allow her to dance. It was an amateur contraption compared to today’s microphones, but it did the job.
Kylie did dance on stage and in her videos earlier in her career. However post cancer treatment she scaled this back.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||May 19, 2023 4:58 AM|
Madonna can’t make good music anymore. She’s cursed.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||May 19, 2023 5:11 AM|
It'll be interesting to see how this does.
Kylie's last two albums did well in her major markets without what one would call a real "hit song" (whatever that even is in the streaming era). None of the singles cracked the top 20.
Will this song change that?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||May 19, 2023 5:35 AM|
Kylie never hit big in the US because she's not that pretty facially. Kind of horsey with large teeth.
If you want to make it in American pop you have to be pretty in a bland way (Britney) or a knockout (Rihanna).
|by Anonymous||reply 67||May 19, 2023 5:40 AM|
Kylie's face had nothing to do with it. The musical genres she's worked in for most of her career have never been strongly supported by US media. In places where she did get a lot of exposure, like the US gay and club scenes, she was and is popular. Enduring exposure is the issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||May 19, 2023 5:43 AM|
R67 What? Rhianna isn't even 36 yet, and both of them are already running fat. Kylie was more of a knockout than either of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||May 19, 2023 9:18 AM|
Rihanna was never a great looker
|by Anonymous||reply 70||May 19, 2023 9:20 AM|
Looks have never been a significant factor in gay men adopting a diva for life. Style can be a significant factor, but looks, no.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||May 19, 2023 9:37 AM|
Kylie Minogue - Into The Blue
This song came up on my shuffle a few days ago and is still in my head. Love IT.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||May 19, 2023 10:33 AM|
Hasn't Padam Padam gone Top 10 in the US? DL's always saying she's not very big in the US but it can't be just the gays listening to her for it to go Top 10?
I get she's not the household name she is in much of the rest of the world but might DL be underestimating her US fanbase? It's like the inverse of when Americans say Oprah or Janet Jackson are worldwide icons and non-Americans are like "Who??".
|by Anonymous||reply 73||May 19, 2023 10:40 AM|
Besides the UK and Australia, Kylie is massive in a Mexico and Brazil apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||May 19, 2023 10:51 AM|
R73: She's in the US iTunes top 10. How that factors in the broader scale of things I don't know.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||May 19, 2023 11:12 AM|
She's #3 on iTunes Worldwide
|by Anonymous||reply 76||May 19, 2023 11:20 AM|
I think these early iTunes charts are largely meaningless in the grand scheme of things. They reflect the momentary bumps from releasing the single and from the album on-sale in which all of the 57 physical variations the artist is selling come bundled with instant digital access to the lead single. Streaming will be the real tell. BMG have apparently gotten Kylie's streaming numbers up meaningfully over the last two album cycles. To me, this song feels like it was (almost cynically) tailor made for streaming (short length, instant sing-songy hook made for replay) and for TikTok. I could see it and its slightly silly, but easily replicable choreography catching on with TikTok and then randomly becoming a streaming hit.
I guess we'll see if her American Idol appearance this weekend will have any impact.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||May 19, 2023 12:56 PM|
Lol, this thread is filled with delusional queens. Reasons why Kylie never fully crossed over in America:
1. Kylie has Old World features. She looks vampiric with those showy teeth, old lady cheekbones, and domed dinosaur forehead.
2. Her dance pop music is way too generic to penetrate the US market. The top US pop acts get first dibs on all the real hits. Kylie gets left with derivative album filler. Her songs with their diluted hooks and generic lyrics appeal to the most basic, dumb gays looking to be buoyed by the familiar. The less thought required, the better. It's made for those mindless Europeans who don't really care what music is playing as long as they can bop around to it while drunk.
3. Her thin, nasal voice can be shrill and grating on the ears after a while. It's headache inducing. Madonna left the high-pitched, pop tone in the 80s. After her 1994 eponymous album, Kylie regressed vocally. All she has now is her head voice which is not enough. Roisin Murphy is a better singer even if she has less overall range.
4. She can't dance. USA has Madonna, Beyonce, Gaga, JLo, Britney (in her prime), heck, even Ciara, etc. Nowadays, you have to be able to do it all.
5. Padam Padam is a stupid name for a song title that sounds like she is trying to break into the Indian market. The hair is flat and she looks washed out. These leaks are to generate interest in another flop era. They'll blame the leaks for weak sales.
Simply put, America is a tough market to break into. We export culture more than we import it. That's beginning to change with the k-pop fad muscling its way onto the Billboard charts, but the truth is, only Asians and the rice queens who love them bother with that tacky, manufactured shit. Plus, those k-pop stars are dropping like flies from the stress.
X, Kiss Me Once, and Fever were Kylie's last decent, consistent albums (i.e-6 or more good songs) that had any sort of presence in America.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||May 20, 2023 12:20 AM|
The only notable culture that America exports to the world these days is end of the line crap like Netflix's "Cleopatra". You're dome as a force or as an authority.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||May 20, 2023 4:45 AM|
R79 and you think Kylie Minogue is a cultural force? I'm laughing.
Her music is boring generic crap, her voice is average and she can't dance. And she has a long English face and teeth.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||May 20, 2023 4:57 AM|
She's not English. Even by descent.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||May 20, 2023 4:58 AM|
R78 what a pathetic waste of your time typing all those biased statements. Get on your red hat and start chanting U-S-A! Ethnocentric fucker
|by Anonymous||reply 82||May 20, 2023 4:58 AM|
She's not English? Damn that has to sting. To look English and not even be English....
|by Anonymous||reply 83||May 20, 2023 5:03 AM|
^ And what are you doing with your life, while she's still kicking at 55? Calling pop stars ugly on the Internet?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||May 20, 2023 5:06 AM|
Good lord we have a Kylie bot.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||May 20, 2023 5:12 AM|
R80 And you sound like grandpa Simpson. Go away and suck the life out of another thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||May 20, 2023 7:40 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 87||May 20, 2023 11:51 AM|
R57: I love the Rhythm of Love cover. One of her best albums too.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||May 20, 2023 11:55 AM|
R83 she’s Welsh by descent I think, so British. Just not English.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||May 20, 2023 11:57 AM|
R77: yeah the days are long gone when the iTunes chart means anything for chart positions in the actual chart. Sales on there are so low compared to streaming numbers.
I much preferred Dancing and Say Something as the last two lead singles off her new albums but I’d always rather see Kylie in the charts over the shit that does well now so I hope the new song does chart.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||May 20, 2023 12:03 PM|
How exactly are the charts added up and composed these days? Is there a publicly available breakdown?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||May 20, 2023 1:31 PM|
R91 A mix of physical sales (cds, vinyl), digital sales (iTunes, etc.), radio airplay, and the biggest piece of pie: streaming numbers across all platforms (Spotify, Pandora, YouTube, etc.).
|by Anonymous||reply 92||May 20, 2023 1:41 PM|
Radio should not be in there. That's pure corruption left over from another time and does not reflect actual public demand. .
|by Anonymous||reply 93||May 20, 2023 1:43 PM|
r91 - this is a long, but very interesting summary of how the Hot 100 on Billboard works.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||May 20, 2023 11:04 PM|
And a similarly helpful post on the Billboard 200 (the main albums chart)
|by Anonymous||reply 95||May 20, 2023 11:05 PM|
"The Hot 100 is composed using a formula that is mostly kept as a trade secret. Streams, airplay, and sales are divided by certain numbers. The resulting quotients are then added up to create the charts."
So in other words it's a corrupt farce.
There's no legit reason at all why the composition and calculation of the charts shouldn't be 100% transparent. None.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||May 21, 2023 11:24 AM|
Kylie and Nutsack perform!
|by Anonymous||reply 97||May 22, 2023 5:03 AM|
Last album was superb, Eurodisco magic. But not sure what I think of this new single. Kinda sounds drab and generic, sadly.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||May 22, 2023 5:24 AM|
I didn't like it at first either, but it quickly got lodged in my brain. It's catchy. I'll giver her that.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||May 22, 2023 6:27 AM|
Great post r78.
Diluted or derivative is a great way to explain her music. I like Kylie well enough and think she's had some great songs...
-Can't Get You Out Of My Head -Red Blooded Woman (Narcotic Thrust Remix only - seriously it's amazing!) -I'm The One -Slow -Dancing -All The Lovers -Come Into My World
...but her voice is really quite unpleasant live (just listen to that American Idol performance!) and yeah - she's rarely gotten ahead of the curve. Can't Get You Outta My Head had an awesome sound and video that felt completely fresh. I still remember when that video hit I was like "who IS this woman??" totally unaware it was a comeback of sort for her. It was a hot video - great dancing and sound.
But otherwise, she seems like a hand-me-down version of other big divas. Someone sexy and small and femme enough to sell all over Europe and Asia and the Middle East, but with vapid lyrics and a vaguely "mmmm ohhhhh sexyyyyy" air about her, which falls apart as soon as she, you know, tries to actually sing about SOMETHING. Her songs are fluff, at least the good ones. She doesn't make you think, and if you're just going to be dancy music, you have to have fresh and catchy gimmicks. She doesn't, usually.
As much as people in North America love their divas, I think we've almost outgrown the idea of worshipping the divas, you know? We lost Whitney to drugs, Madonna's become a complete horror, Britney's insane (poor thing), Mariah is delusional and silly (can still sing but....eh), Aretha's gone (RIP) and Celine is very ill...
...so that leaves.. Rihanna? Beyonce?
I agree Kylie is great and should be celebrated, but I don't see the States getting on board now. She'd need a huge, HUGE hit song or two to take over the summer, and even then. With clubs having been closed for the better part of 3 years, where are people going to dance to her music? MTV doesn't show music videos anymore. YT is fine for getting her stuff out there, but the market sees her as "cheesy euro dance music woman" and that's about it.
Is the problem that she or her label won't cough up the money for better-written material? Or just that she's happy with her level of success and being a B-lister?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||May 22, 2023 7:02 AM|
[quote] She's not English. Even by descent.
Yes she is.
Ethnicity: Irish, Welsh, English
|by Anonymous||reply 101||May 22, 2023 7:18 AM|
Kylie's parents were what we call £10 poms.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||May 22, 2023 7:39 AM|
She generally identifies as Irish and welsh by descent.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||May 22, 2023 7:49 AM|
R93: agree radio is easy to manipulate by record companies. So is streaming though. Record companies now pay Spotify and the others for songs to play after the ones a listener has specifically chosen to listen to have finished. Or they get them added high up a ‘new release’ playlist. In the past I’m sure record companies would go out and buy physical copies of singles to cheat the charts but it seems easier to do now it’s mainly based on streaming.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||May 22, 2023 8:17 AM|
Artist management would also go out and buy singles en masse. This was a standard thing in the UK at least, for a while in the 90s, where that could heavily impact chart position. One particular boy band manager was notorious for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||May 22, 2023 8:21 AM|
Which one R105? A clue?
|by Anonymous||reply 106||May 22, 2023 8:22 AM|
Sorry i zoned out.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||May 22, 2023 8:24 AM|
Kyla Minot has a horse face just like SJP. How she succeeded with her fucking ugly mug and horse body is mystifying.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||May 22, 2023 8:42 AM|
Wow! I read your posting history R108. Not sure what to say.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||May 22, 2023 8:49 AM|
I have R108 blocked for some reason
|by Anonymous||reply 110||May 22, 2023 8:59 AM|
Kylie almost certainly called a favor or two to get the 'Idol' gig. They will get a nice bump in ratings this year, and she will gain good exposure for the younger demographics who watch. Her song will probably have at least 10 million views on youtube by next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||May 22, 2023 9:06 AM|
Young people watch broadcast TV?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||May 22, 2023 9:36 AM|
Idol is a good sign that the label is prioritising this release. And **if** anyone was required to call in favors to get Kylie on the show it would have been the label. The video budget has also been upped from the Disco video messes (which admittedly were made during Covid).
|by Anonymous||reply 113||May 22, 2023 11:24 AM|
R111 - do you mean an artist's label could "buy" a slot on Idol? I suppose anything's possible. Katy Perry's $25 Million/year salary isn't going to pay for itself. But, BMG is an indie and Kylie budgets aren't what they were in the Fever era. And her most fruitful efforts will remain in the UK, Europe an Australia, so I imagine they're holding budget until closer to the album release in those markets.
It honestly just could be that programmers like her and saw her small, but passionate fanbase filling a niche in the Finale lineup that was worth the 3 mins of airtime. Despite her relatively low profile in the U.S., it seems like bookers like her here and like playing on the cache of her being a much bigger star globally. In the past 2-3 campaigns she's done Fallon, Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, James Corden, America's Got Talent, Dancing with the Stars, Good Morning America, the Today Show and probably some others I've forgotten about.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||May 22, 2023 1:03 PM|
Who's the whore that comes in and steals Kylie's thunder in this AI performance?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||May 22, 2023 1:35 PM|
R115 - She's a contestant who got eliminated earlier in the season. And, she's apparently spoken with gratitude for getting to sing with one of her childhood icons. She's from Georgie (the country), so I don't think that's just some lipservice.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||May 22, 2023 1:58 PM|
R116 How did an eliminated contestant get to share the spotlight with an iconic performer like Kylie? Did she blow somebody?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||May 22, 2023 2:06 PM|
You think Debbie Gibson threads still gets 117 replies?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||May 22, 2023 2:09 PM|
All the stars performing last night shared their time with contestants.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||May 22, 2023 6:00 PM|
Thank you OP for posting about this, I'll always have love for Kylie but I don't really keep up with her, haven't been too interested in her later work. This is easily the best thing she's done since her Body Language era so I'm definitely paying attention to what comes next from her!
|by Anonymous||reply 120||May 22, 2023 11:54 PM|
R120 - my pleasure! I was kinda cool to the song originally, but I cannot get that damn earworm out of my head now. And, I've really warmed to it. Kylie is one of the few artists who can balance coolness with a slight silliness and pull it all off. The song has a bit more bite and edge than her most recent work and, yet, the title also has a playfulnesss and even silliness that wouldn't work in another artist's hands.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||May 23, 2023 1:46 AM|
Kyla should have her twin horse face/horse body SJP as her cohost. It'd be a wheeeeeeeeee-nin combo.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||May 23, 2023 10:02 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 123||May 24, 2023 4:32 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 124||May 24, 2023 4:37 AM|
I like her gameboy song
|by Anonymous||reply 125||May 24, 2023 6:07 AM|
I love the song and really hope it can be her next hit here in the States. To all those trashing her, I get not liking her voice (truth be told, he live voice isn't my favorite), but are you saying she's a bad singer and shouldn't be making albums? That's just being obtuse. For every 1000 recording artists, there's maybe 1 or 2 who actually have legitimate talent, and even then, sometimes that talent is fleeting (e.g Adele). Otherwise, they were the most talented kid in their podunk high school who got discovered and a recording gig where they were auto-tuned to heck. Plus, let's be good to her; she survived cancer and she's a classic and sweet.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||May 24, 2023 6:54 AM|
R125 Kylie always finds a way to breathe new life into the song when performing it live.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||May 24, 2023 6:56 AM|
Why would you try to engage or reason with trolls? They are here to attack Kylie because they want a reaction, it makes them feel alive. When normal and mentally healthy people see a thread on an artist they don't like, they just scroll by.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||May 24, 2023 7:06 AM|
I like Kylie but she's 55. This song won't be a hit anywhere.
She's still releasing catchy new material, so just enjoy that.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||May 24, 2023 10:33 AM|
It's already half way up the UK top 40.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||May 24, 2023 11:10 AM|
Bullshit r129. It’s already a hit. I love it.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||May 24, 2023 11:24 AM|
R127 I love this version with the "Love to Love You, Baby" mix.
But that's not a live performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||May 24, 2023 1:21 PM|
It's been in the iTunes Global Top 5 since day of release.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||May 24, 2023 6:30 PM|
127 - it's a 'hybrid', I guess. From her Infinite Disco special she recorded during the height of the pandemic since she couldn't tour DISCO. That whole show was fabulous. Even some of the cheesier DISCO tracks came out great in that special. I think largely to music direction from Biff and Steve Anderson.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||May 24, 2023 7:11 PM|
Kylie has never been huge in the states because she has only toured here once and it was like 9 shows...I was lucky enough to see her in Chicago in some college basketball arena....It was an amazing show and one of the gayest
|by Anonymous||reply 135||May 24, 2023 7:18 PM|
r135 - she's actually toured twice in the U.S. The For You, For Me tour and the Aphrodite tour.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||May 24, 2023 7:36 PM|
What's a Padam?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||May 24, 2023 7:46 PM|
R137 "Padam" is the sound your heart makes when it beats.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||May 24, 2023 7:59 PM|
It's French. Edith Piaf did a song called 'Padam padam'.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||May 24, 2023 8:00 PM|
I don't think it's actually French. I think it's an onomatopoeia in both languages.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||May 24, 2023 8:17 PM|
Apparently there was a Tension album listening party for LA gays-in-the-media last night. A music/pop culture blogger posted about it on Twitter, but has since deleted the whole thread? According to him, Kylie attended, listened along with everyone else and answered a few questions. She was apparently coy about any live shows in the U.S. but didn't shut down the possibility. The guy said longtime Kylie fans will enjoy the album, but said Padam Padam was an outlier. He wasn't complimentary about her outfit... maybe that's why he deleted it?
|by Anonymous||reply 141||May 24, 2023 8:30 PM|
The various Padam memes are giving me life!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||May 24, 2023 8:38 PM|
Padam sucks as bad as that shitty attempt at a country album she did.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||May 24, 2023 8:59 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 144||May 25, 2023 4:08 PM|
Don't give up, Eldergays!!
[quote]I got the opportunity to hire 60 year old dancer for @kylieminogue video #padam our journey doesn’t stop at a certain age ! So proud of her #PadamPadam #padam #kylieminogue 🔥🔥🔥❤️
|by Anonymous||reply 145||May 25, 2023 4:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 146||May 27, 2023 2:55 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 147||May 28, 2023 11:56 AM|
She deserves all the success and good will, I've never heard a bad word about her. Didn't she used to feature on those airline crew gossip pages as one of the nicest celebs to have onboard?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||May 28, 2023 12:33 PM|
I liked Locomotion as a kid and I loved Can't Get You Out of My Head.
Otherwise, I have never gotten the adoration of her music at all.
It's so bland to me, like factory-made gay dance template stuff.
I'm not trolling Kylie herself. She seems so sweet and I'd really love to love her music. I have tried. It's just all totally vapid, less interesting lyrically than even Britney Spears songs. I cannot understand the love of her songs.
I am seeing everywhere online that 'the gays' MUST MUST MUST love her new single. It feels like a conformist mandate. It's not a great song. It's another confection with the depth of a Blow Pop.
Yet everyone is conforming to the mandate.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||May 28, 2023 12:59 PM|
R149 Excuse me, Blow Pops have great depth. You have to lick the lollipop to get to the chew gum center.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||May 28, 2023 4:26 PM|
R149 - Not even....
Love at First Sight
Confide In Me
...? None of those sound like overly generic, anonymous pop-girl songs.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||May 28, 2023 5:38 PM|
R151 don't forget
Put Yourself In My Place
On A Night Like This
I Believe In You
All The Lovers
Did It Again
|by Anonymous||reply 152||May 28, 2023 5:47 PM|
R151 I kind of like Slow, but the lyrics are still vapid.
I mean, better than the braindead new Beyonce songs, but just barely.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||May 28, 2023 5:50 PM|
I dunno, I'm not sure there are many dance pop songs which are lyrical masterpieces. I'm not expecting Dylan'esque lyrics out of dance pop songs.. hell... I'm not even expecting Fleetwood Mac'esque lyrics.
I think you almost need them to be lyrically simple for them to work. Some of Kylie's lyrics are absolutely silly, it's true, but I think she's one of the few artists who can match the silly with the sublime within the same song and make you come away a believer. I mean, even the new song is inherently a bit silly and yet icy and cool at the same time.
Maybe they shouldn't work on paper and, yet, they often do. I think that's just part of her charm.
As for Beyonce, I've never been a massive fan, but I think calling the lyrics to her latest album braindead is a bit over the top. Renaissance is a very layered album (musically, production wise and lyrically.) The lyrical references are innumerable and often pay homage to and uplift LGBT dance music pioneers who came before her. I adore Kylie, but if you're going by lyrics alone, she's never done something as meaningful or ambitious as that (nor would I expect her to.)
|by Anonymous||reply 154||May 29, 2023 1:10 AM|
Padam Padam is now #1 most played song on Capital/Heart's Top 40. And that just a week after it was added to their playlist.
For those not in the UK, Capital is a network of pop/hit music stations across the country and part of the largest commercial radio company in the UK. Radio listenership is still very high in the UK compared to the U.S. and Capital has a young audience so it's increasingly rare for an artist of Kylie's age to get airplay on Capital, let alone to have the #1 song on the network.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||May 29, 2023 2:31 AM|
Out at the gay bars last night and heard “Padam Padam” probably four times.
“Tension” has an opportunity to be this summer’s “Renaissance.”
|by Anonymous||reply 156||May 29, 2023 2:45 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 157||May 29, 2023 10:10 AM|
R157 Shouldn't you, ya know, actually learn the lyrics to the song before you decide to lip synch it?
|by Anonymous||reply 158||May 29, 2023 10:16 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 159||May 29, 2023 10:20 AM|
I'm so sick of all the Tension
|by Anonymous||reply 160||May 29, 2023 10:38 AM|
I've really started to warm to the budget Sophie Muller video. And, no, not JUST in comparison to R157. LOL. It is actually better directed and edited than I gave it credit for and it has just the right amount of weirdness as the song, too.
I guess ol Sophie knows how to make the most of a $10,000 video budget.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||May 29, 2023 10:41 AM|
Apparently, her wines have now sold more than 9 million bottles since launching. If the average bottle were $20USD (some cost more than that, some cost less) that would be $180 Million since she launched the brand. I wonder what her cut is.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||May 29, 2023 3:24 PM|
You think there's a chance this will chart on the Billboard Hot 100 in the U.S.?
The song's getting a lot of buzz and momentum stateside.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||May 29, 2023 3:31 PM|
It's a lot more catchy and fun than most of the shite clogging up the US charts
|by Anonymous||reply 164||May 29, 2023 3:35 PM|
Is no one else actually annoyed by 'Padam Padam' memes being shoved down our throats and the suggestion that it casts some kind of spell over gay people?
I really don't get it. It just seems like a marketing scheme that works every time on groupthink gays.
The song is fine but gay performative hyperconformity is so alienating to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||May 29, 2023 3:38 PM|
And I guess when I say her music feels generic to me, this is a good example.
Padam Padam is effectively the same song as this ATC song My Heart Beats Like a Drum. Same genre and a similar overall sound, same concept, lyrics are effectively interchangeable.
And I remember when this group had a few hit-ish singles, they were generally regarded as a paint-by-numbers factorymade Eurodance group assembled by formulaic producers.
Their songs were still catchy. But all the lyrics were basically filler words.
I dunno. Kylie's music seems universally adored and so this does seem to just be a case of me missing a chip that would make me get what is special about her.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||May 29, 2023 3:44 PM|
r163 - yes, I think there's a chance it could continue to build over the early summer and make it into the Billboard 100, but I will be VERY surprised if it makes it anywhere near the top. It's apparently on track to hit the top 20 in the UK this week and THAT is being heralded as major news in her most favorable market, so I think charting anywhere in the Billboard 100 would be remarkable in the U.S. now. I would not be surprised if it does well on the Billboard dance charts. I think she's earned a few #1s on those charts over the years.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||May 29, 2023 3:46 PM|
Yes, R53, she died last week.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||May 29, 2023 3:52 PM|
Good one r168!!
|by Anonymous||reply 169||May 29, 2023 4:15 PM|
Padam Padam wtf does that mean? It sounds stupid as hell to see you motherfuckers on here go on and on and on and on about such a stupid ass song title. Talk about having shit 4 brains! I like Minogue but give it a fucking rest. Go get some fresh air! Listen to something else for an hour or two! Fuck me!
|by Anonymous||reply 170||May 29, 2023 4:18 PM|
R170 if you expect us to fuck you we'll need a picture first. To make sure you make our hearts go
|by Anonymous||reply 171||May 29, 2023 4:32 PM|
R170 Thanks for weighing in, Madonna.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||May 29, 2023 4:35 PM|
I just found out why the sluts like this song especially.
“Padam Padam I know you wanna take me home.
Padam Padam and take off all my clothes”
|by Anonymous||reply 173||May 29, 2023 5:03 PM|
I’m a Kylie fan and listen to all of her stuff. Unfortunately, this single sucks. It won’t be added to my Kylie playlist.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||May 29, 2023 5:04 PM|
R174 maybe you just need to take it home & get to know it close?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||May 29, 2023 5:13 PM|
R174 I'd be interested in your opinion in what songs should (or should not) have been Kylie singles over the years?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||May 29, 2023 5:14 PM|
It's okay, girls, we don't all have to like the same things.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||May 29, 2023 5:14 PM|
R174, I’m another fan who is lukewarm on this single.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||May 29, 2023 6:16 PM|
Yeah, I’m not feeling it at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||May 29, 2023 7:31 PM|
R176 I think most of her singles were great choices. Not this time out. I hope the rest of the new album isn’t this lackluster.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||May 29, 2023 7:32 PM|
She's poised to hit the U.S. Billboard Top Ten.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||May 31, 2023 1:28 PM|
Um, no. Kylie is not going to be anywhere near the Top 10 in the U.S. That "article" at R181 was written by some random 19 year old in India who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and is misinterpreting reporting from other sources. There's a *possibility* she might enter the Billboard 100 eventually but even that may be a little ways off for her. The new Billboard 100, dated June 3, was just published, and she's not there... yet.
The last time Kylie entered the Billboard 100 (which is for individual songs), was in 2004 with 'Slow'. She's had better luck on the Billboard 200 (album sales) and the more specialized dance charts.
See this week's Billboard 100 here...
|by Anonymous||reply 182||May 31, 2023 3:55 PM|
Padam Padam IS #12 on the Billboard Hot Dance / Electronic Songs Chart.
Explanation of Billboard Hot Dance / Electronics Songs chart: [quote]The week’s most popular songs, ranked by audio and video streaming activity on leading digital music services, radio airplay audience impressions based on monitored airplay and sales data, all compiled by Luminate. Audience totals are derived, in part, using certain Nielsen Audio listener estimates.
As you can see from her chart history on the Hot Dance / Electronics Songs chart (link below) she's made it onto this chart many times. Note: this chart hasn't been in existence as long as her career. It's why you wouldn't see Can't Get You Out of My Head on here, as you would expect to.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||May 31, 2023 3:58 PM|
I'm not going to post every Billboard chart she's made, but here you can use the drop down menu on Billboard.com to see them.
Billboard Hot 100 peak: #3 - Locomotion (Can't Get You Out of My Head peaked at #7),
Billboard 200 peak: #3 for Fever
Artist 100 peak: #26 (during the Disco era),
Radio Songs peak: #8 for Can't Get You Out of My Head,
Top Album Sales peak: #2 for Disco (this is pure album sales, no streams counted),
Top Dance/Electronic Albums peak: #1 for Disco,
Dance Club Songs: She has EIGHT #1s! The most recent being Dancing (I think she'd have even more recent ones if it weren't for clubs being closed due to Covid, of course),
|by Anonymous||reply 184||May 31, 2023 4:10 PM|
Padam Padam HAS been the #1 selling song on the Billboard Dance / Electronic Digital Song Sales chart for two weeks in a row. It strictly measures sales (not streams). Okay, that's enough. Sorry for multiple posts, but you can only put one link per post.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||May 31, 2023 4:12 PM|
Back in the day she would have been no.1 in the UK already as she topped the sales chart. Just not strong enough (yet) on streaming.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||May 31, 2023 4:39 PM|
Is it just streams on paid sites that count towards chart positions? I bet there are industry employees whose jobs it is to stream their artist's tracks day in and day out to boast "success". Sales & downloads, whilst still open to manipulation, seem a better way to compile a chart.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||May 31, 2023 4:51 PM|
R187 - it would be meaningless to have charts based solely upon physical and digital sales. For better or worse, things have evolved and streaming is dominant. That said, there are charts solely for streaming as well as charts solely for digital and physical sales. But, yes, the main charts are a hybrid of both.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||May 31, 2023 5:10 PM|
R188 I guess you're right, I just meant if anyone can stream the sing for free then the chart no longer represents what's "selling". I can totally understand the inclusion of paid streams.
I've lost interest in new music (apart from the occasion catchy song) as I get older.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||May 31, 2023 5:16 PM|
Her new song is pure shit!
|by Anonymous||reply 190||May 31, 2023 5:17 PM|
R190 what songs of Kylie's do you actually like, as a matter of interest?
I wouldn't say it's a great song but it's very catchy
|by Anonymous||reply 191||May 31, 2023 5:28 PM|
R189 - Streams are still "paid" media, but through a different model. Most streaming services have a "freemium" model in which the free version of the app is ad-supported. So, the platform is earning advertising revenue when you listen and are served ads in-between your streams. But, Spotify free (ad-supported), for example, does not let users choose which tracks they're listening to on-demand. Users who pay for the premium service (which is now more than 40% of Spotify users) allows the user to choose which songs they're listening to on demand. And every time one of us streams one of those songs, the artist earns a teeny tiny commission. The combination of the ad revenue + subscriber fees are the source of the "sales" back to the artists.
Of course, you have to have a hell of a lot streams to make meaningful sums off of Spotify and Apple Music etc. For example, in 2022, it's estimated that The Weeknd earned more than $13 million from streams of his inescapable song 'Blinding Lights'. The song was played more than 3 BILLION times to earn that revenue, though.
Based upon those Blinding Lights numbers, Kylie's Can't Get You Out of My Head will have earned her about $1.5 million from about 365 million streams. (These are just Spotify numbers)
|by Anonymous||reply 192||May 31, 2023 5:50 PM|
R191 I like 90% of all of her music. I’m not a Kylie Stan. When she puts out something shitty, which is rare, I’m gonna call it.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||May 31, 2023 5:56 PM|
Maybe we SHOULDN'T be encouraging Gen Z gays to 'discover' Kylie...
|by Anonymous||reply 194||June 1, 2023 7:06 AM|
"Meanwhile, Kylie Minogue’s Padamic is sweeping the country. The catchy electro-pop number “Padam Padam” is on the rise, and could crack the top 20 for the first time."
|by Anonymous||reply 195||June 1, 2023 10:52 AM|
I don't believe this for a second...
|by Anonymous||reply 196||June 1, 2023 6:13 PM|
R194 a good reason to gag
|by Anonymous||reply 197||June 1, 2023 9:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 198||June 1, 2023 9:37 PM|
I'm not r190 but, Chocolate, for a start. That should have been a single.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||June 1, 2023 10:21 PM|
R199 Chocolate was the third single from her Bridget Bardot album, peaked at no.6 in the UK. If memory serves it had a really basic video, they probably blew the budget on all those male models in "Slow".
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