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Janelle Monáe goes full lesbian porn mode

WTF. I mean, I love her... her music, she's an amazing actress... but what the fuck is this new video where she's practically naked, with tons of naked women, getting all over their booties and their tits and ... this seems really beneath her. I always thought she was classy as hell. Where is this coming from?

(I wish famous super-hot white men would do this, but they could never get away with it the way women can)

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by Anonymousreply 121May 29, 2023 3:23 PM

gurl Jacki-O did this over a decade ago and did it better. she ate actually

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by Anonymousreply 1May 11, 2023 11:55 PM

She is in her hoe era and I am here for it! Show off those tig ass bitties girl! I'm gay as hell but I am loving her showing off her Hersey kisses nipples in these slutty-ass ensembles. Let them have it!

by Anonymousreply 2May 12, 2023 12:00 AM

She does have a nice rack.

by Anonymousreply 3May 12, 2023 12:03 AM

She is a try hard. Lipstick Lover? All these puzzling, hide and seek damn games. Just name the damn thing lipstick lesbian lover and come out the closet already.

Also agree with above poster, I thought she was way more classy. She has become so trashy and trying wsy too hard

by Anonymousreply 4May 12, 2023 12:25 AM

She is a shit actress. What have you seen her in where she’s good? This bitch is overrated as hell she has always been a pass around.

by Anonymousreply 5May 12, 2023 12:25 AM

She seems to love the puss

Who is her gf?

by Anonymousreply 6May 12, 2023 12:25 AM

Never heard of her

by Anonymousreply 7May 12, 2023 12:27 AM

R3 the 'Pleasure' shirt...I'm sat

by Anonymousreply 8May 12, 2023 12:30 AM

[quote]Just name the damn thing lipstick lesbian lover and come out the closet already.

She came out definitively as bisexual in Rolling Stone in 2018. But she also said she may be pansexual. She hasn't been in the closet for a long time, even if she hasn't settled on what her sexuality is.

by Anonymousreply 9May 12, 2023 12:38 AM

She is Overrated. And very " Look at me!"

Who listens to this shit?!

Few people can name a Janelle Monae song. I have never heard a Janelle Monae song play on the radio.

by Anonymousreply 10May 12, 2023 12:43 AM

If you’re a black woman in music you gotta go full-on porn mode in your videos and lyrics gotta be straight up nasty slut.

by Anonymousreply 11May 12, 2023 12:47 AM

What is the difference between bi and pan again? I can't keep all of the riveting nuances straight.

by Anonymousreply 12May 12, 2023 12:50 AM

Maiden Aunt Brigade demanding women "act classy". If she wants to make a slutty, lesbian video more power to her.

by Anonymousreply 13May 12, 2023 12:53 AM

R13 Except it's a Hard R video that younguns can find and watch. It is what it is, and it's not inherently bad but it's not appropriate for all ages. That's my enduring problem with slutty vids these days. I think it's fucking tacky to have such a crass cultural norm. It's like everyone went from slapping an EXPLICIT label on Purple Rain to just giving up and allowing pole dancers and gang criminals to dictate pop culture.

by Anonymousreply 14May 12, 2023 12:57 AM

And I thought lesbian porn was a sale on gardening paraphernalia and seed packets on eBay?! Well, get ME!

by Anonymousreply 15May 12, 2023 1:03 AM

Wasn’t she allegedly pursuing Lupita Nyong’o?

by Anonymousreply 16May 12, 2023 1:20 AM

BET Uncut for she😔

by Anonymousreply 17May 12, 2023 9:20 AM

I knew who she was, but I have no idea why she's famous.

by Anonymousreply 18May 12, 2023 9:42 AM

She and Tessa Thompson were a couple for a while. She is beautiful and talented. The song is OK but the video is crazy. Her 2010 album "The ArchAndroid" is a classic.

by Anonymousreply 19May 12, 2023 11:08 AM

Why is she out there showing off her titles. I thought Janelle had more class. Why do Black girls/ women think they need to show titles and pussy to be popular. Just sing bitch and stay classy.

Why can't they be more like Alicia Keys... I thought this type of behavior was below Janelle, not even rihanns does that, but I was wrong, it seems she is just a skanky ass whore slut.

by Anonymousreply 20May 12, 2023 5:05 PM

[Quote] She and Tessa Thompson were a couple for a while

Say what?

by Anonymousreply 21May 12, 2023 5:18 PM

R4 What closet? She's been out for years

by Anonymousreply 22May 12, 2023 6:03 PM

R6 She's in an open relationship with a man. They probably date other people/have threesomes and such

by Anonymousreply 23May 12, 2023 6:04 PM

This is her bf

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by Anonymousreply 24May 12, 2023 6:09 PM

She looks good

by Anonymousreply 25May 12, 2023 6:14 PM

Gross.

by Anonymousreply 26May 12, 2023 6:32 PM

Good Lord in heaven!

by Anonymousreply 27May 12, 2023 6:45 PM

Cool double standard, OP. Is it misogyny, racism, or both?

by Anonymousreply 28May 12, 2023 6:47 PM

Datalounge spends nearly as much time calling women sluts as it does dissecting the minutiae of every gay porn star's life -- it's ALMOST like y'all have some issues with regards to sex

by Anonymousreply 29May 12, 2023 6:50 PM

[quote][R13] Except it's a Hard R video that younguns can find and watch. It is what it is, and it's not inherently bad but it's not appropriate for all ages. That's my enduring problem with slutty vids these days. I think it's fucking tacky to have such a crass cultural norm. It's like everyone went from slapping an EXPLICIT label on Purple Rain to just giving up and allowing pole dancers and gang criminals to dictate pop culture.

Were you in a coma for most of the 90s?

by Anonymousreply 30May 12, 2023 6:54 PM

Trash music

by Anonymousreply 31May 12, 2023 7:20 PM

Disgusting behavior, don't these women have any class? Why is she showing her breasts? Is she a stripper now?

by Anonymousreply 32May 12, 2023 7:29 PM

The ArchAndroid is an amazing album! Such a variety of musical styles. A lot of composition and creativity went into that album. But yeah, I agree that Janelle’s latest offerings are disappointments. When ArchAndroid was released, she mentioned something about POC not being so monolithic in their music, but it seems she’s walked away from that statement. There’s nothing special about another Nikki Minaj, Cardi B, etc. What happened to the cerebral, imaginative output? It’s gone.

by Anonymousreply 33May 12, 2023 9:05 PM

R33 maybe that artist persona was manufactured. She has always struck me as a try hard who isn’t very intelligent when she speaks. That’s evident from the whole NB thing. I think it’s why she tried to be more mysterious early in her career. It would not surprise me at all if her albums were largely made by someone else and she was used as the artist because she is beautiful. I admit this is speculation.

by Anonymousreply 34May 12, 2023 9:48 PM

ArchAndroid was a great album. It takes a lot of time, money, energy, and creativity to make an album like that, with not a lot of return, so it's easier to show skin and make lazy low effort music and videos.

r21, it was pretty well known at the time:

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by Anonymousreply 35May 12, 2023 9:52 PM

Excited for her new album next month

by Anonymousreply 36May 12, 2023 10:21 PM

R28, your reading comprehension is lacking.

She always seemed so classy to me. This is just trashy. Beneath her. But it's interesting how an A-list musician and A-minus list actress can get away with this, but a hot white guy musician and actor couldn't.

I loved her in Duran Duran's "Pressure Off":

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by Anonymousreply 37May 13, 2023 3:19 AM

I wonder if Pepsi is going to distance themselves from her and bury those Super Bowl ads she did for them.

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by Anonymousreply 38May 13, 2023 3:23 AM

Those titties are turning ME on and I’m gay.

by Anonymousreply 39May 13, 2023 3:24 AM

Well, I'm _actually_ gay, and this all turns me off. I don't need to see fat female ass, or big tits. Bleh.

by Anonymousreply 40May 13, 2023 4:07 AM

I am OK with women loving and celebrating other women. The video feels exploitative, though. Like it's for men instead of women. But I will leave that for our lesbian sisters to decide.

by Anonymousreply 41May 13, 2023 4:12 AM

[quote]What is the difference between bi and pan again?

Pansexual always makes me side-eye because it means anything goes. So if they aren't into (or just) into men/women, what are they into? Kids? Animals?

by Anonymousreply 42May 13, 2023 4:24 AM

I think it's just a way of including trans and NB people, r42

by Anonymousreply 43May 13, 2023 4:40 AM

She isnt a lesbian. She is bi and just as in to dick as pussy.

by Anonymousreply 44May 13, 2023 4:47 AM

OP, far worse music videos have existed. Trust me. That just looks like "tasteful and artistic" nudity to me.

It's not like she shot a part 2 version of the "Tip Drill" music video by Nelly and St. Lunatics.

That shit was/is awful. Even YouTube won't allow it on the platform with an age restriction. You have to go to a porn site to see it uncensored.

by Anonymousreply 45May 13, 2023 4:49 AM

Janelle, age 37, has entered her Janet Jackson phase. Janet was only a year older when she decided to flash her titty to the nation during the Super Bowl half-time show.

The prospect of turning 40 in the music biz is tough for these gals.

by Anonymousreply 46May 13, 2023 4:53 AM

R20 Right it’s only black women.

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by Anonymousreply 47May 13, 2023 4:54 AM

[quote]What is the difference between bi and pan again? I can't keep all of the riveting nuances straight.

R12, If that was a serious question, I'll give you a serious answer. Bisexual generally refers to cisgender people who are attracted to both cisgender men and women. Pansexual generally refers to anyone who is attracted to both men and women, whether they're cisgender or transgender. Or any other variation of gender. Basically they could be attracted to anyone of any sex whether they're cisgender or not. It doesn't mean that they're attracted to grandmas or children. It just means that when it comes to sex and gender, they could be attracted to someone regardless of their sex or the gender they identify as.

by Anonymousreply 48May 13, 2023 4:58 AM

R12 R42 Pansexual includes transgender.

Example: a man who is attracted to or have sex with females and transgender women is a pansexual.

I’ve always deemed pansexual a legit sexual orientation. It predates the tumblr / LGBTQIAA+ era.

As a teenager in the early 2000s I learned the 5 sexual orientations - heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, and asexual.

If I’m not mistaken, pansexual is an outdated term by the “new wave” because it distinguishes trans and takes them out of being apart of the more normal orientations like heterosexuality and homosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 49May 13, 2023 5:01 AM

r14 Speaking of the "Tip Drill" music video, BET sure didn't give a damn about minors seeing it during their 3 AM uncut music video block. That's where I (and most of my peers) first saw it; on BET (Uncut) as a minor.

BET (Uncut) is, sadly, considered a "childhood pastime" for the average "millennial from the hood."

This wasn't a "warning." This was a reminder to turn the volume down on the TV, lol.

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by Anonymousreply 50May 13, 2023 5:01 AM

R50 You’re leaving out the best part!

Uncut would air on Sunday mornings (for Saturday night owls) and would lead DIRECTLY into BET’s Gospel Sundays.

Guys would literally be jerking off to Uncut and within 5 minutes, a big church and the gospel organ would start playing.

I miss the 2000s.

by Anonymousreply 51May 13, 2023 5:05 AM

r41 I don't get exploitation from it. And saying it's "for the male gaze" could mean anything like, "There were women in the video existing as women."

by Anonymousreply 52May 13, 2023 5:06 AM

Sad that young Black women believe they have to be whores to sell music or be popular

by Anonymousreply 53May 13, 2023 5:08 AM

[quote]Gospel Sundays.

[quote]Guys would literally be jerking off to Uncut and within 5 minutes, a big church and the gospel organ would start playing.

r51 Lord, yes! How could I forget? The poor bastards. One minute it's "I got my t-shirt and my panties on," and the next it's "No weapon fooooooormed against meeeee! Shaaaaall prosperrrrrr!"

BET wasn't shit for that, and they know it.

by Anonymousreply 54May 13, 2023 5:09 AM

BET Uncut classic

I ain’t got no panties on! Ain’t got no panties on! I ain’t got no panties on - on the dance floor.

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by Anonymousreply 55May 13, 2023 5:10 AM

This is a typical career move for female artists, and it's not just black women.

Even the most androgynist and feminist women who want a bigger audience and bigger checks go through a slut period. They start out as cute or dykey and then slut out.

And not just pop twats like Britney and Christina. I'm thinking of original indie girls like Nelly Furtado, Liz Phair, and now Janelle.

by Anonymousreply 56May 13, 2023 5:10 AM

R53 Meanwhile

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by Anonymousreply 57May 13, 2023 5:12 AM

r55 Thank you so much for this trifling-ass trip down memory lane. I appreciate you.😭

by Anonymousreply 58May 13, 2023 5:13 AM

R56 Example.

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by Anonymousreply 59May 13, 2023 5:14 AM

If you don’t like this and think it’s too slutty, go listen to Peggy Lee.

Sex is the new wave. It sells, it’s always sold.

There’s nothing fun about being classy today.

Janelle Monae was becoming a bore. Let her shake her ass and drum up some business.

by Anonymousreply 60May 13, 2023 5:20 AM

[quote][R12] [R42] Pansexual includes transgender. Example: a man who is attracted to or have sex with females and transgender women is a pansexual.

I'm not sure I completely agree there. To me pansexual means EVERYONE. Pan means everything. I don't think there are categories for probably the majority of people that fall in between bisexual and pansexual. Like guys who date women and trans women, but not men are not really pansexual, and there is no label for that. I feel like if you say you're pansexual, that means you're all in. And if not, you're something else, and that's OK. People are free to love who they want to. So I have no problem with guys who are attracted to women and trans women only, I just don't think they fit neatly into a category.

by Anonymousreply 61May 13, 2023 6:15 AM

R59, I always thought that Jewel video was intentionally making fun of women who released videos like those. It was a protest against those kind of videos. Kind of like Pink's Stupid Girls.

by Anonymousreply 62May 13, 2023 6:18 AM

Where is the video?

by Anonymousreply 63May 13, 2023 6:27 AM

Why are you discussing the video without posting the full video?

WhT the hell?

by Anonymousreply 64May 13, 2023 6:27 AM

(And since Jewel was mentioned, I thought she made a much better June Carter Cash in a really bad made for TV movie then Reese Witherspoon did and won and Oscar for)

by Anonymousreply 65May 13, 2023 6:32 AM

That's much too vulgar a display of power, Janelle.

by Anonymousreply 66May 13, 2023 6:34 AM

She decided to shoot her shot.

She's 37. She won't be able to do this again.

by Anonymousreply 67May 13, 2023 6:36 AM

Take x number of sprightly ladies, toss in half as many double-headed dildos, bring to a slow boil.

by Anonymousreply 68May 13, 2023 7:03 AM

I don't particulary care about this video but imagine Frank Ocean or Tyler the creator (not sure if the latter is actually gay or just using "being queer" as a pass for his homophobic pass ) releasing a video like this but with guys...I agree the world has double standards when it comes to male and female homosexuality but luckily there's still Lil Nas X out there who could pull something like the gay version of this one day and I'm waiting.

by Anonymousreply 69May 13, 2023 7:45 AM

R69 *past

by Anonymousreply 70May 13, 2023 7:45 AM

[quote]She is a shit actress. What have you seen her in where she’s good? This bitch is overrated as hell she has always been a pass around.

She was impressive in Moonlight and fantastic in Hidden Figures, easily matching Taraji, Octavia and Kirsten. She was great in Harriet and the standout in Knives Out.

by Anonymousreply 71May 13, 2023 7:58 AM

Lil Nas' football music video (below) and his prison shower music video for "Industry Baby" are both basically gay porn lite, for parts of them at least

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by Anonymousreply 72May 13, 2023 1:31 PM

She showed her titties. She has nice titties.

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by Anonymousreply 73May 13, 2023 2:10 PM

I'm not a fan per se but I think it's a great video. I don't get the prudishness from OP about it.

by Anonymousreply 74May 13, 2023 2:12 PM

Madonna made the Express Yourself video 34 years ago.

Toni Braxton made the You're Makin' Me High video 27 years ago

Cristina Aguilera made the Dirrty video 21 years ago

Miley Cyrus made the Wrecking Ball video 10 years ago

by Anonymousreply 75May 13, 2023 3:00 PM

Whores!! WHORES!!!

by Anonymousreply 76May 13, 2023 5:57 PM

A tad pretentious but what pop star isn’t?

by Anonymousreply 77May 13, 2023 6:07 PM

OP, you lost me at “lesbian porn.”

by Anonymousreply 78May 13, 2023 6:11 PM

OK. If lesbians find it celebratory and appropriate I accept that. Homosexual men are embarrassed by gay male sexuality outside of porn.

by Anonymousreply 79May 13, 2023 6:42 PM

As a gay man, even I'm impressed by her tits!

Go Janelle!!

by Anonymousreply 80May 13, 2023 7:06 PM

Geez, this trash makes Cardi B and Saweetie look like Mother Teresa.

by Anonymousreply 81May 13, 2023 7:32 PM

Mother Teresa was no saint (well, I guess technically she is). She was a very sick woman with a poverty fetish. She's received a lot of criticism for her work, because she believed that suffering was noble, and that starving people were a glorious expression of Christianity. She was a freak.

by Anonymousreply 82May 13, 2023 7:38 PM

I love her and I’m sure the lesbians will love this video

by Anonymousreply 83May 13, 2023 7:42 PM

[quote] are you talking about Janelle Monáe or Mother Teresa?

by Anonymousreply 84May 13, 2023 7:59 PM

Oh! R84 what is meant for R83 and I forgot to post your comment in the quote block.

I are dumb

by Anonymousreply 85May 13, 2023 8:00 PM

Dang. And I used to like her.

by Anonymousreply 86May 13, 2023 8:08 PM

Yeah, it was trashy when Madonna did it with "SEX", and this is just trashy now. Bleh.

by Anonymousreply 87May 13, 2023 8:55 PM

The difference between Sam Smith and Janelle Monae is, i’m not buying for one second that Sam Smith is enjoying anything that he’s doing right now. He’s every bit as uncomfortable as we are watching him.

by Anonymousreply 88May 13, 2023 9:03 PM

Maybe this is the image Janelle always wanted to project but couldn't up until now.

by Anonymousreply 89May 13, 2023 10:05 PM

Sam is obviously out of breath when he performs…

by Anonymousreply 90May 13, 2023 10:10 PM

Everyone thought Adele was classy until she got skinny and let her true whore self out. The tits look fake.

by Anonymousreply 91May 13, 2023 10:28 PM

She’s hot and could probably have any woman she wants

by Anonymousreply 92May 13, 2023 11:07 PM

Hard pass for many if she has a boyfriend though.

by Anonymousreply 93May 13, 2023 11:15 PM

She's such a cornball and I guess this is her way of trying to make up for it? But this video actually makes me think she doesn't have that much sex and she's awkward in bed. She still hasn't released a song better than Violet Stars Happy Hunting

by Anonymousreply 94May 13, 2023 11:33 PM

Sam Smith is just gross too. And not that talented.

I'm mostly just disappointed that she's brought herself down to gross Same Smith levels.

by Anonymousreply 95May 13, 2023 11:37 PM

I think it's kind of funny, because there are basically two types of people that don't like certain musicians, or the way they present themselves.

The first type will see something they don't like and they just won't talk about it. I'm one of those.

But the second type will see something they don't like and go on ENDLESSLY about how gross, how disgusting, how untalented the artist is.

So you really only ever hear from the haters that NEED TO BE HEARD AT ALL COSTS!

Because those of us they don't care don't comment.

It paints a very skewed picture of what people think about an artist overall.

Sam Smith has millions of fans. But if you only read about them here, you'd think they were the most horrible artist in the universe.

by Anonymousreply 96May 14, 2023 9:53 PM

So basically, if you hate an artist, then their music is probably not meant for you. So why would you comment on it?

by Anonymousreply 97May 14, 2023 9:55 PM

I really like her, overall. I think she's been a bit of a try-hard with her last two albums, but in a time where music is so corporate and drained of any sort of innovation, The ArchAndroid and Electric Lady were two of the freshest and most exciting works I've heard in the last 15 years.

And her acting work has been solid. The camera loves her, and especially in Hidden Figures and Moonlight, she added gravitas and warmth.

The press for the last two albums has confused me....it seems like they're trying to cheapen her up or make her naughty for chart relevance. She's interesting on her own terms. I'd rather hear her music or watch her screen work over any other pop tart on the charts these days, for sure.

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by Anonymousreply 98May 23, 2023 2:52 PM

As a marching band geek, I first fell in love with the horns rips and overall groove of Sincerely Jane in college. Great memories.

The thread of her output from the song Metropolis on “Audition” to her “Metropolis” EP to “ArchAndroid” probably contains my favorite music of this century. I liked Electric Lady a bit less, but it’s quite enjoyable.

I think I’ll go ahead and listen through her newer stuff to see if I can capture that same magic; I doubt it though :(

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by Anonymousreply 99May 23, 2023 3:29 PM

I always forget about Metropolis - in my brain it's part of the ArchAndroid. LOL

by Anonymousreply 100May 23, 2023 3:42 PM

I love her and admire how in control of her career she has been. I don't think I've heard anything bad about her, just that she's a hardworking professional who enjoys exploring different genres/instruments with her offbeat friends. I think she might have set up a casual commune/lives with roomies. No issues or cult bullshit like Jared Leto.

Saw her redo part of a live performance and she explained why very gracefully. The song was better second time around.

This more exhibitionist thing is shocking but I'm interested in actually hearing the music. If she wants to present great music nude, that's fine.

by Anonymousreply 101May 23, 2023 3:46 PM

Naivete, thy initials are DL.

Janelle is obeying orders IN order to stay in the public eye [See: Thread, This]; to have "her" music supported and promoted; to be nominated for awards; to have a career in the music industry.

Virtually the same goes for the thread about Lily Rose and HBO: "Gratuitous nudity" and "graphic sex" are the prices to pay for SHOW-Business careers, mostly for women, but not totally.

by Anonymousreply 102May 23, 2023 3:50 PM

If I understand correctly, pansexual is when you jerk off/hump a Le Creuset. Or if you're feeling really trashy, a Cuisinart.

by Anonymousreply 103May 23, 2023 5:31 PM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 104May 23, 2023 5:32 PM

[quote]I am OK with women loving and celebrating other women. The video feels exploitative, though. Like it's for men instead of women. But I will leave that for our lesbian sisters to decide.

I'm a lesbian and I thought the exact same thing while watching it. This is the male gaze everyone talks about when a straight man directs a lesbian movie. I just looked up who directed the video and *dingdingding* it was a straight man (although Monae is listed as a second director). He is actually Solange Knowles ex.

R83, this lesbian did not like the video. That big, flabby ass just plopped in the middle there over and over was kind of gross. There were hot moments but, overall, this was a video for straight black men to fantasize over.

by Anonymousreply 105May 23, 2023 6:24 PM

r39, you mean BISEXUAL dumbass. Are did you mean you now in the EXGAY category.

Predictable, these threads just bring out the FAKEGAYS and EXGAYS. "I'm gay and these tits are turning me on" - so stupid why can't you fuckers just admit your BISEXUAL and stop the lies. How many men have you wasted time of, knowing you want to see fuckin tits all this time? So it took Janelle Monae to make you formerly/previously gay and have you lusting for a woman? Really? And some of you femme types "show off them tities girl" are just as fake.

by Anonymousreply 106May 23, 2023 7:22 PM

Is this real, gay men are watching this video are are really no longer gay?

by Anonymousreply 107May 23, 2023 7:23 PM

Any "gay" man sexually responding to this shit is not actually gay.

by Anonymousreply 108May 23, 2023 7:44 PM

Weren't the dancing vaginas enough, Janelle?

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by Anonymousreply 109May 23, 2023 11:22 PM

OP, you lost me at “lesbian”.

by Anonymousreply 110May 26, 2023 4:26 PM

R106, you need to look into therapy so that you can address your anger issues, because my response at R39 wasn't even serious. Like, I am not sitting over here with a hard on. Even if I was, that would not mean I am bisexual. And even if it did mean that I am bisexual, WHO GIVES A SHIT?

Grow up.

by Anonymousreply 111May 26, 2023 4:39 PM

[quote]I mean, I love her

Why?

by Anonymousreply 112May 26, 2023 4:43 PM

Amazing tits. Class-less act.

by Anonymousreply 113May 26, 2023 6:12 PM

Why is she so obsessed with showing off her tits? She's nonbinary, so isn't it triggering for someone who's not a woman to be celebrating their big tits?

by Anonymousreply 114May 26, 2023 11:28 PM

Non-binary is a bullshit category. There exists no such thing.

by Anonymousreply 115May 27, 2023 12:46 AM

I think Janelle is doing this due to pressure in our oversexed porn-addicted pop culture. She may have always been sexual but this hypersexual image seems like corporate overlords suggesting it and she being hungry for relevancy taking it. Despite her "theatre kid" artsy look when she first came out. She did come across as tryhard and it's becoming clear she may lack an identity. Once she went mainstream and got into Hollywood circles, she definitely changed. The money is too good and she compromised. It's sad because black women are oversexualized in the media and some wholesome and alternative presentation would be refreshing. But she's grown and she can do her.

by Anonymousreply 116May 28, 2023 10:34 PM

[quote]Sam is obviously out of breath when he performs…

I hope you mean when THEY perform.

Helloooo!!!! Violence!

by Anonymousreply 117May 29, 2023 12:06 PM

I don't think Sam is untalented, I have no idea what's happening to him/they right now, but I actually used to enjoy him.

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by Anonymousreply 118May 29, 2023 12:15 PM

She's a beautiful woman and she needs to go back to being indie to maintain her dignity. Tinashe tried to do the oversexual "mainstream" look and sound too which alienated her fans and went back to her more indie roots.

by Anonymousreply 119May 29, 2023 3:14 PM

R119 points out why Janelle is known, in magazines, and making videos; while Tinashe (who?) is....not.

by Anonymousreply 120May 29, 2023 3:21 PM

R20 Also Tinashe isn't as conventionally beautiful as Janelle despite her talent. But Janelle actually got famous for her unique androgynous look and not being a sexualized pop tart and she branched out into acting.

by Anonymousreply 121May 29, 2023 3:23 PM
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