Official Charles III Coronation Thread, Part 3 - Let the Festivities Begin!

Katy got FAT!

They invited a black celebrity. Not racist!

R2 Sure, as the court jester.

Have Beatrice and what's her name been retired as working royals? Not on balcony.

R4 They've never been working royals, you dim cunt.

Truly enjoyed that! And the best part was watching with my DL family. Have a great day, guys!

How much is a Royal making these days?

Christ I'd forgotten about the concert. I'll take 700 year old religious ceremonies in the name of tradition but I draw the line at Take That.

If he trips over his dress and that heavy crown cracks his skull do they then do this again in a couple of months for Will?

When Charles was sitting there in his full regalia, robes, crown, scepters, etc., he looked like an old lady in a nursing home that the staff had chosen to be Queen of the May or something. They got her all dressed up and the poor thing has no idea what she’s doing, where she is, or why she’s wearing a costume.

Wow, Katy looks really excited!

Sad last days?

What's the next big event?

Katy was there for the food.

[quote]What's the next big event?

Charles' s funeral.

R12 David Attenborough's funeral.

I must say, Katherine, Princess of Wales looked the absolute best of all of them. I guess she and Sophie opted not to wear tiaras. She wore an Alexander McQueen gown, and a head piece by them as well. And little Charlotte was a miniature of her mother. Absolutely the best. Both of them. of course Louis is adorable. He was restrained most of the time, on good behavior, but he sort of let loose on the balcony for a bit. William is gigantic! So tall, and so imposing in his robes. Now if anyone can carry out the fashion requirements of the job it's him. He has the physicality for it. But as I have watched him the past two or three weeks he seemed genuinely frazzled. I must say after watching Charles today, I don't think he'll be king very long. He looked worn out.

Katy was there because she is performing

I can’t imagine how tiring today must be for a 75-year old.

Those two old cows waving on the balcony with those crowns on their heads as if they were special and be celebrated when the are actually as trashy as they come makes me nauseous.

All the bitter on this thread. Like it or not, the world is tuned in, many Britons are proud and Camilla & Charles are the true Kweens.

r19 MARY! and not even of Teck

The concert is Sunday evening at 8pm.

What do they all do now? Drink, sodomy and nap?

There are celebrations all weekend, with the concert closing it all off on Sunday.

People keep commenting on Katy Perry being there. She’s invited because she was asked to perform on Sunday and accepted. The performers were invited to the Coronation as well.

Also, she found her seat lol

r22 I know that what I'm doing tonight.

The only events left are tomorrow - the quiche luncheon and the American Pop Tarts Concert.

Without Orlando and his fine long slim English penis?

[quote]What do they all do now? Drink, sodomy and nap?

Not necessarily in that order.

Is Katy pregnant?

Today was historically significant, but watching the ceremony and looking at pictures, I’ve been completely underwhelmed. The reason Charles’ mother’s coronation was so riveting is because she was young, her husband was a dashing prince out of a fairy tale, and the ceremony was being televised for the first time. However, today, Charles just looked old and pathetic, and Camilla made an absolute fool of herself.

Worst of all, William and Kate looked radiant, and their prominent role in the ceremony reminded the world what could’ve been.

Katy is a has been, soon she'll be performing at the new generation of Kardashian's birthdays.

Performing for this is an honor.

An honour all British pop stars refused.

I thought the press said Harry would get all the "Boos" 🤔

Yes I was watching Sky News and they acknowledged Prince Andrew and the boos and how he is a Royal by blood and will always be Royal but shouldn’t be allowed to have any duties. They were shocked by Harry leaving so fast.

Was Orland Bloom there today?

[quote]Performing for this is an honor.

Sure! Was Janet busy?

Lmao imagine the book really was presented live 😂

R37 she wasn’t asked but yes, she is touring.

Camila better hurry up or she will be late for her Derby appearance today.

Well, Harry’s Boss would only allow him out of her clutches for so long.

I read that Harry flew commercial to London. Given his quick departure, did he fly private back?

^ That's so tired, do better 🙄

^ for r41

I hope Harry and Will stop this nonsense and fix their relationship

ALL HAIL QUEEN CAMILLA!

The new mascot for "The side-chick" worldwide!

Truth hurt R43?

Yes, he flew back on American Airlines. It’s not very hard to coordinate flights. No need for a private jet and given the optics I doubt he would have taken one even if he wanted to.

Good on Harry for doing what the Royalist wanted. Came alone, supported his father from the back of the church, and left.

Anyone that’s had beef with family has done something similar. They didn’t want Harry on the balcony and certainly wouldn’t have wanted his wife up there if fuse had attended. So the Brits got why they wanted, Charle’s children in attendance with none of the drama.

Win-win. Happy Birthday to Prince Archie!!! I hope Harry’s flight arrives on time!

R45 consider Harry was in William’s terf, it’s up to William to reach out. God knows, he and his wife would never make the effort to visit California. I hope the boys get over it as well, but I just think this is a situation where you don’t need to be close to your family, just because you are related.

I wouldn’t dare be so cold while the cameras are on, but my social and employment standing isn’t guaranteed like William and Kate’s.

All well, Harry still has the family he’s wanted, living in a beautiful home, in sun kissed California. By all accounts, he’ll be fine. William gets to play boss man back in the UK.

Allegedly Katy and Lionel Ritchie were given single Coronation invites (no plus one, not enough room in the Abbey) as part of their deal to perform at the concert tomorrow. Katy also got use of an overnight private guest suite at Windsor Castle as part of her deal.

Lionel has had a busy month, his daughter just married UK business royalty of a sort a few weeks ago, in a lavish ceremony in the south of France. He is Sir Lucian Grainge's son.

Thanks, R48, regarding the flight information.

[quote]However, today, Charles just looked old and pathetic

It provided a needed air of gravitas.

Turns out you write a nasty tell all book about your family they aren’t really thrilled to see you. Who knew?

I enjoyed watching it during lunch and housework. Not much glamour left in the world, nice to see some pageantry, and the music is lovely. Hopefully KC will hold on a few years, it will give William time to mature into the role.

Tried to catch up on what DL was up to, but the second thread was filled with stupid comments about black people. Did anyone mention the gloriously butch Princess Anne and her Harry-blocking red feather? What about still-slim Beatrice in her lovely pink dress? Who was the young beauty in the front row directly behind the gospel choir?

And so many handsome men in uniform.

R42 Harry is flying back on BA269.

R6 Yup. I got up & turned on the TV and logged on to Datalounge. I wouldn’t have watched it otherwise. Love you all 💋

How is CNN going to cover this all weekend??

What if Charles is secretly an atheist? How can be head of the Church of England?

Way back at r30, how did Camilla make a fool of herself? I’m watching highlights because I didn’t want to get up to watch the whole thing live. In pics and short videos, she seemed ok, but she definitely looked a bit tired.

OT but I’ve noticed since prime time was implemented, no more10 inane daily threads on Meghan Markle. I also enjoy the fact that the poster/troll who loves to insults Americans whenever they display an opinion other than the troll’s opinion has been suspiciously quiet. The threads are now at a reasonable amount and the conversation has been mostly civil and interesting.

Look at the lifespans of Chuck's parents and the former Queen Mother. At 74, he might reign for twenty years or more!

Why some people are eager for King William, I do not know. Charles may be weird and self-centered (he WAS born to be King, after all, AND he's a Boomer! And a Scorpio!), but he's progressive and not mean.

I have to admit that Louis did look a little Damien like on the balcony.

@r53, "Turns out you write a nasty tell all book about your family they aren’t really thrilled to see you. Who knew? "

Your family treats you like shit all of your life, so you tell your side of the story and you still turn out for Pa's big day. Who's the better man?

R58, Brilliant. Pose an unanswerable, and in this case also ridiculous, question and then expect an answer.

I’ve read that he actually has a good sense of humor and is a good conversationalist, r60, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s also spoiled and a bit demanding.

Louis is at least a cute kid. I never found George to be cute. He has the weirdest looks, like he got the oddest matchup of features from his bloodlines. He does seem like a sweet kid though and well mannered.

Louis is very cute but a handful and unruly, something George and Charlotte never were, at least not at public events lol.

R62, Are you serious?! Harry was indulged every which way AND loose!

@r58, What if Charles is secretly an atheist?

Nah, he believes he was chosen by God, so he can't be an atheist 🤔

R65 Yes, George looks like Louie Anderson now. Imagine what puberty will do.

Harry did NOT "sit at the back of the church". He sat in a royal row, amid his royal cousins.

[quote] Tried to catch up on what DL was up to, but the second thread was filled with stupid comments about black people.

R54, Those comments were mainly posted by just one halfwit. If you block him, the thread smartens up nicely.

King Charles is a lot but he does seem to be fair and have progressive views for the most part despite being in his 70s. William is actually way more traditional and uptight than his own father.

@r66, "Harry was indulged every which way "

Except for a loving and supportive father and brother. What a lucky guy 🙄

Harry was seated in the royalty section, along with the rest of the family etc. he just didn’t have a special section being the son of Charles like he would have originally.

r58 James II was a Catholic and head of the C of E. I'm reading a biography of George III that said he was an agnostic when he was young, and that's when it actually mattered. Charles would just have to not attach one of these to the back of his gold coach and he'd be fine.

r53 Well that is something r49 struggles to grasp. Why talk to someone who could use or twist what you say for money from media deals or giving nuggets of information to amateur journalist Gayle King to twist.

r30 How did Camilla make a fool of herself?

[quote]R58, Brilliant. Pose an unanswerable, and in this case also ridiculous, question and then expect an answer.

A lot of educated boomers are atheists. It's a valid question. His oaths during the coronation often mentioned God. They're not valid.

Having the monarch as the head of the Church of England is a joke anyways. Not surprising that power mad Henry VIII came up with that.

R71, "[D]espite being in his 70s"?? I'm 73 and quite a progressive Liberal. Remember the anti-Nixon/Reagan/Bush Boomers?

R72, I suggest to you that Harry is an unreliable narrator. What makes you think that Charles was or is not "loving and supportive"? Are you confusing Charles with how his own cold father Philip treated him?

I doubt if Charles or anyone else actually believes much of the stuff said in the ceremony. It’s just tradition & pageantry at this point.

r72 Then why did Harry choose to say differently in the past? He even credited William with encouraging him to get counselling . What about the other side of the equation? Was Harry a good and supportive brother to William for all these years? Why should William have to babysit Harry all his life?

r77 Sugars are emotionally invested and interested in narratives not nuances or facts. They need pantomime villians in their stories like children.

R76, You're still an idiot. You have no evidence re: "a lot of educated Boomers" (of whom I am one, but "agnostic" is more the accurate descriptor for me), never mind ANY WHATSOEVER for Charles. Then you state like you've got a grip on fact that his vows today are "not valid."

You are talking OOYA.

Well, you're entitled to your projections, r78.

@r77, No, I read his book where he goes into great detail about his emotional neglect. Growing up with a lot of "stuff" doesn't fill a lonely heart

His father had similar issues with his parents and look how he turned out 😏

[quote]I guess she [Kate] and Sophie opted not to wear tiaras.

The commentary on my station said Charles had asked that nobody wear a tiara. Probably wanted to spite the DL Tiara Troll.

Kate's headdress was by Jess Collett for McQueen, as of course was Charlotte's.

"Lust-mad" was more like it, r76. Henry VIII regarded himself a good and faithful Catholic up until he was denied that divorce approval. Then he went on a monastery "shock and awe" looting attack, never mind his brutal punishments. But his break with Rome and subsequent "Defender of the Faith" title notwithstanding, he is the reason the Anglican Church is thisclose to Catholic.

Most Boomers aren’t atheists. And most educated people aren’t atheist but not religious.

[quote]The commentary on my station said Charles had asked that nobody wear a tiara. Probably wanted to spite the DL Tiara Troll.

The first actual piece of leadership this sad-sack has displayed in his entire life.

r83 The book peppered with provable lies like he was told at boarding school the Queen Mother had died when he was on a sking holiday. Or the previous claim Charles never took him on a bikeride as a child but then photographic proof emerged. Why oh why do these inconsistencies keep occurring with such regularity?? Lies can be detailed. Surely its not a principle you abide by in real life that if something is detailed it must be true!! As the poster you are replying to said Harry is an unreliable narrator . You might want to preach to Harry about growing up with a lot of stuff doesn't fill a lonely heart or make a good parent given his 16 bathroom mansion and craving for the billionaire lifestyle. I would not assume Harry's kids spend any less time being looked after by nannies than Harry did. You are trying to make him something he isn't to fit a narrative.

I thought the electric blue satin robes worn by Kate, Sophie and other royal ladies were gorgeous. Bright, patriotically colorful while elegant. Were they designed by a designer or by in-house tailors?

R83, And how has Charles "turned out"? A flawed human being? Oh, no!

Everybody praised E2, but she denied her own sister a chance at marital happiness. She exiled her Uncle David. She allowed her husband to make choices regarding the upbringing and education of Charles.

But be that as it may, for you didn't mention Elizabeth, I'm not sure any parent, any adult, of any celebrity status is role-model material.

Maybe Jimmy Carter!

r90 The Queen didn't block Margarets marriage but said she'd lose some royal perks if she did marry him. Margaret choose the perks. We don't know of their union would have been well matched and lead to marital happiness. But your first point is correct on the nonsense that poster was making on how Charles has turned out.

There was commentary on social media that Harry's eyes looked dilated today as if he was high or taken drugs the night before.

So I watched some of the coronation live, at work, on my phone, with the sound off, and obviously I missed a few things.

Such as, who was that lady in the teal dress who was faffing around with the crown jewels, along with all the religious dignitaries and such?

Why was Charles given two scepters at one point? I mean if you've got the Star of Africa in one scepter, why do you need another!

Did they ever show Harry? There were like no shots of the seated spectators, at least none that I saw.

What was the Princess of Wales wearing under her vast cloak? Did we ever get to see it?

[quote]Or the previous claim Charles never took him on a bikeride as a child but then photographic proof emerged. Why oh why do these inconsistencies keep occurring with such regularity??

He wrote from his memories and perspective.

I do hope that they will be able to get past all of their rifts and come to terms with their various rifts and what nots. It's really just the 3 of them. But I have a bit of sadness for Harry's children. They experience none of this and are like outsiders. Just think how many little boys and girls could have found some type of inspiration by seeing bi-racial children (like themselves) attending such a ceremony and also participating as a full royal.

I don’t think most biracial children will see inspiration in Harry’s 3/4 white children who look white.

If we saw the kids and didn’t know they were Markle’s kids we wouldn’t know they were part black.

[quote] Everybody praised E2, but she denied her own sister a chance at marital happiness. She exiled her Uncle David. She allowed her husband to make choices regarding the upbringing and education of Charles.

Some people just really looked at a Netflix drama and accepted it as real history didn't they.

r92 Penny Mourdant was the woman in teal at the coronation. I'm not a Brit but I know she's a Tory who recently ran for Prime Minister (and lost). She is head of the Privy Council, hence her prominent role today.

One of the scepters was the Rod of Equity? Not sure. There are several scepters, from what I understand, but only two feature in the Coronation ceremony.

Kate wore a specially designed gown by McQueen under her robes, but we didn't see much of it. The front hem had some nice silver detailing that you could see in some shots.

r93 There were lots of biracial people , indeed non whites from all backgrounds at the service . Why wouldn't they cause inspiration? As r94 points out visually Harry's children are white. They are also too young to have attended anyway. Princess Anne didn't fully attend the whole ceremony at that age for her mother's coronation.

Oh yes, I'm the guy who just got glimpses of the live ceremony, with another question: Tell me, :Tiara Experts, have we seen the Princess of Wales' massive tiara before? I don't recall seeing it discussed on our endless threads on the subject!

Because I thought it was the perfect choice! If a gal is so weighed down with ceremonial garb that nobody can even see her fabulous gown, THAT is the time to wear the biggest damn tiara in the jewel vault! And a fabulous updo, of course, we couldn't see anything of her but her head.

r93 Si his memories are wildly unreliable then . You are confirming my point. His perspective is being treated as gospel truth by some including those with an agenda or emotional investment in believing a certain narrative.

r98 that wasn't a tiara, it was a silver gilt headpiece specially designed by McQueen (same designer as her gown) for the occasion. The same designer also designed Charlotte's headpiece.

@r95, Few people have denied it's historical accuracy. You can nitpick on minor details all day, but no one has said any of the major events were wrong. In fact most everything Harry talked about were already common knowledge, he just wanted to get his side out there and that's exactly what he did and why his family is mad at him.

His family only wants their version of events released

I think that the headpiece at r98 and especially the makeup on kate are just awful. Because she's aging and always so skinny, her face already looks incredibly sharp and angular, and the dramatic makeup contrasts and the sharp leaves only enhance the look of pointiness. She looks like she's just come back from an appointment with Maria Shriver's face sharpener.

[quote]Some people just really looked at a Netflix drama and accepted it as real history didn't they

In an attempt to defend that poster a bit, while "no" the series "The Crown" is not 100% accurate there have been many who have attested that many of the events depicted were not too far off of what actually happened. It's been reported that Betty watched the series and did like it but found that there were scenes/incidents that were overly dramatic.

r11 I think their talking about The Crown, which many people have questioned its accuracy, not Harry's book . He just wanted money, his need to get his alleged side of the story out and the tantrum it was would never have happened if Daddy had given him and Meghan everything they wanted including whipping out his chequebook. The royal family have not gotten their side of the story out at all. So your last point is nonsense. They notoriously rarely give interviews on personal matters and regardless Harry's perspective or side of the story is not the same as the gospel truth. Little lies and inaccuracies reveal a deeper problem , a bigger one rather than just being minor details. For starters it shows a penchant of embroiding stories for effect- ie lying.

[quote][R93] There were lots of biracial people , indeed non whites from all backgrounds at the service . Why wouldn't they cause inspiration? As [R94] points out visually Harry's children are white.

There are many who have no idea of who the various people of color are. Yes, I would agree that visually Harry's children appear white but that could be a teaching moment for many. Also, there are many who could even identify with that type of situation.

[quote] But I have a bit of sadness for Harry's children. They experience none of this and are like outsiders.

Lilibet is far too young to attend such an event--you cannot have a toddler wailing in the Abbey during a coronation. Even Archie is too young.

It is all moot, though, since it was Meghan's choice to stay at home with them. We have been told she was invited, and had the palace lied about inviting her, I am sure Harry and Meghan would have told us by now.

The entire rationale for The Crown is deeply sus. Robert Lacey is not a historian's bootlace. Just from what I read here it is clear the show overlooks documented facts (eg the Princess Margaret marriage issue), never mind that it invents almost all of the characters' motivations and private conversations, while blending in enough historical accuracy that lazy viewers believe it lock, stock and barrel even when they pretend to be more sophisticated about it. The result is that people seem to think they are watching a reality TV show involving the Royals.

r104 meant for r101

r103 Who are these many who have attested its accuracy?

Both are too young r106. There was talk of whether they were even going to allow Louis to be there at 5 because they felt he may be too young still also and didn’t want him acting up. I guess they got him in line before and he was good

But the other two are far too young.

Did anyone see India Hicks on the BBC's coverage? She was talking to the commentator while they were waiting for the balcony event. I thought she had the outfit of the day, complemented by great hair. She was one of Diana's bridesmaids in 1981.

Meghan was invited and declined the invitation

Is Katy drooling because she was invited for something?

[quote][R103] Who are these many who have attested its accuracy?

I'm not doing that R108. Simply Google (and remember Google is your friend) and "how accurate is The Crown" then read to your heart's satisfaction about the debates, the positive/negatives of such a series about history, etc.

I forgot this thing was happening until just now.

Even Shane Klingensmith would have declined the invitation.

R110 Yes India Hicks had a sort of dulled platinum woven garment. She looked chic. The flowers on that set were a big miss, however.

The ONLY thing Megs and Harry have going is their relation to the Crown and Megs misstepped, as she does, not attending and keeping a smiling face and low profile.

Katy looks like a retard. Sad.

R116, the flowers cast very unfortunate shadows that made the anchor look as though she had been sharply kicked in both shins.

The anchor had ZERO energy.

There wasn't enough bowing of heads and curtseying for me. Them old crones with bad knees and backs could barely move. But kudos to the woman in sitting in wheel chair who had decency and energy to raise herself up and stand for the King. IMHO, she should have remained seated and saved her energy as the whore... (excuse me), the homewrecking, side-chick... (pardon me), the "Queen" passed by her.

Who did Camilla's dress? Rather Queen Camilla's dress. Did she repurpose her wedding dress? They look the same to me...

[quote]But the other two are far too young.

I agree with this. But Harry's children could have been at the small parties and gatherings getting to know their relatives and their relatives them. A nice little birthday party thrown/hosted by King Grandpapa either yesterday or tomorrow would have been nice.

R93 Harry’s children are lily white just how Meghan wanted them.

I'll watch just until Jojo Siwa and The Teletubbies perform, and then I'm done.

Sorry, Janet!

Anyone know who the woman is in yellow?

FABULOUS DRESS!!!

r122 Bruce Oldfield, a UK designer who actually used to work a lot with Diana, designed Camilla's Coronation gown.

Did anyone see the plump woman with purple hair dressed in a purple dress? She looked like the girl that turned into a giant blueberry in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Beautiful photos here

[quote]Anyone know who the woman is in yellow? FABULOUS DRESS!!!

Try this again. Scroll down about a quarter of the way for the women in yellow.

Is Harry giving Charlotte the stink-eye here? He has no idea who he's messing with.

Allegedly Camilla injured her back a couple earlier this week, which is why she was crowned sitting rather than kneeling as is the custom for the Queen Consort and why she didn't carry the sceptre during the procession out of the Abbey.

I'll admit I'm a fat middle-aged queen and I did get teary-eyed as Charles left the Abbey. Imagine having to wait your whole life for your destiny only to know you'll only live it out for a decade or so. Also, I do hope William and Kate are crowned before they are elderly.

[quote]Imagine having to wait your whole life for your destiny only to know you'll only live it out for a decade or so.

I heard one of these pundits report that Charlie (King Charles) is the oldest UK monarch to have ever been crowned

Just finished watching it and one bit of juicey tea, I noticed Eugenie's husband was the only one to really go out of his way to talk to Harry. Beatrice and Edo gave him the cold shoulder and even Eugenie kept her interaction to an unusual minimum.

The woman in yellow was singer Pretty Yende.

Who is the page with the tousled hair? (our right)

Thank you R134, she sang beautifully.

R135 about a decade too young for you, Bryan

I don't want to fuck him, sweetie.

Thank you, R134

Jill brought her granddaughter Finnegan; her Mexican papi sidepiece Raul... and American actress-comedienne Geri Jewell.

I vore heem better!

I think Princess Anne’s hat obscuring Harry deserves its own thread.

Eugenie's sperm donor looks miserable.

This just in! Queen called Meghan evil at a reception at Balmoral.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned ME!

R58, I haven't seen anyone comment on TV about Charles stopping as he left the Abbey, to receive blessings from the non Christian religious leaders, I saw Hindu, Sikh, a Rabbi and a Muslim all standing together praying with him. It only took a couple minutes but still.

I think William has issues and his temperament is going to prove worse than his father. Charles is a kind person with an empathetic personality. He certainly exudes warmth when he is out with people. William is dutiful and wound very tight. He has a certain pomposity too. Very stiff and self-important. That won't lessen as he ages. He is lucky to have Catherine and 3 adorable kids, because he was standing behind the door when they passed out Charm.

Surprise! Another ageist barb on DL via R30

I'm not buying it R143. It's the NYPost and just another (but more subtle) racist attack to get the animals aflutter.

Well, it's just poetic justice. The Brits kidnapped all those Africans and set them to slavery in the Americas. It's only fitting that MM bring down the monarchy.

Same for the U.S. The indigenous peoples will eventually reclaim their land. They're just more robust and fertile.

What goes around comes around.

The whole this was and is extraordinarily moving. I've been crying like a baby all day. He showed deep humility. This is not a joke for Charles. When he took that oath, he meant it. "Not to be served, but to serve." He is as regal and kingly as they come on this 3-dimensional earthly plane. I felt a little closer to God this morning watching the ceremony. Charles is elegant, thoughtful, gracious, organized and sincere. He has good in his heart and lots of ideas and inspiration for making the world a better place. He will be a wonderful and beloved King.

Harry workin' that Dior 😍

[quote]He is as regal and kingly as they come on this 3-dimensional earthly plane. I felt a little closer to God this morning watching the ceremony. Charles is elegant, thoughtful, gracious, organized and sincere. He has good in his heart and lots of ideas and inspiration for making the world a better place. He will be a wonderful and beloved King.

Oh, for goodness' sake...

I say bring back Betty either in in hologram and through AI technology

Mary!

VIVAT REGINA CAMILLA!

#145 and #149: Tina Brown

R133 The Yorks and their husbands were assigned as Harry’s minders. I can’t believe it was all that pleasant.

Harry with his plastered on grin sneaking hostile stares at his brother William.

r142 Sperm donor?

r130, it appears he's looking at William.

CNN asked...

[quote]What do we know about Britain’s new Queen?

That she is a homewrecking sidepiece that accomplished what Wallace Simpson was unable to.

^ What DON'T we know about this new queen?

For all of the talk of Charles having the same longevity genes as his parents, he looks frailer to me than they did at the same age.

Princess Charlotte is perfection at these events

You never know how long someone has. He can drop at any moment. That’s life.

But one of his sons can also go before him. You never know what may happen.

He looked totally washed out in the face (but not red and ruddy, at least). Camilla, on the other hand, had on more eye makeup than normal. I think whoever did her makeup did a decent job.

I know Charlotte is a DL fave, but I think she might be a know-it-all in the making. Maybe even a tattle-tale. We shall see.

Harry ran out of there fast. Wonder if he said bye to anyone

r164 Tattle tale?

You know, Harry went after the tabloids so the tabloids are going to pound him into dust if they can. But stepping back from their frothing at the mouth hysteria, I have to think about Charles' candor when discussing his mother and his father long years ago. At the time it was shocking. IMO, Harry just took it a step further. To me the whole thing is a big yawn. I don't care that he married an American Divorcee who is Bi racial. And the stuff he said in the book, hating on his "wicked step mother" bullying by his older brother, and a father who didn't give a very needy kid what he needed, as if anyone could. Given the way he was raised, and the role models provided for him, I think Charles did the best he could. To me it's all bullshit. But it is not salacious or vicious. If you read the Tabloid tantrums you get a different impression than you do from the actual book. And I don't think he is unique in embellishing the truth or discussing "alternative facts." LOL! Harry is not a sex offender being sued by a woman who was coerced into having underage sex. HArry was no "friend of Epstein." Harry wasn't banned from being a working Royal and having public life in the Royal family, he took himself out of it. Conflating Harry with Andrew is the height of stupidity. You don't have to like Harry or care about him to feel disgust with the tabloids.

@r164, To me she always looks so worried. She seems to be carrying around a lot more baggage than a little girl should. She seems to look after her little brother who is a handful. I think that's sweet

Meow meow HISSSSSS!

I see the anti Meghan/Harry trolls are out in full force on social media, finding any reason to come for him.

@r167, Well said, but I'd like to add that he was continually thrown under the bus by Charles, Camilla and William to garner better press for themselves. I find that unforgivable. Harry has given them more grace than they deserve. He's a better man than me

He didn't bow or sing, and admitted to taking drugs. Why are Sussex Stans so undone by facts?

Meghan's Mole isn't wrong. though, R170. Harry is a loser. He betrayed his entire family for cash. He's an arrogant prick. A spoiled brat. An asshole. If he's gonna fly 10,000 miles to put in the face time and attend the god damn thing, why can't he lose the ego for five minutes and sing the fucking anthem? It's so petty. It's your father, Harry! He didn't sexually molest you, Harry. He didn't beat you, Harry. He's a human being, too, Harry. I've seen people, whose parents actually *did* molest and beat them. behave with more respect and loyalty towards their parents than this petulant twat.

What an absolute knob.

r166 He didn't intend to take himself out of royal life. He asked for a half in half out arrangement with the royal family and seems resentful it wasn't granted. Quite different to a tale of taking himself out if it for his own wellbeing which is a bit revisionist of history on his part. Why are you bringing Trump into it--- a tactic to try and label all Harry and Meghan critics as far right wing supporters of Trump? I loathe Trump as do many Harry and Meghan critics .

“I just want to have my cake and eat it, too. Is that so unreasonable?”

R169, These reporters or posters know nothing of even the most basic protocols for ceremonies. And it isn't hard. The people who have a key role, such as the Prince of Wales and heir to the throne, sits in the front. Was Harry supposed to jump up a hop over to hug his brother? These assholes who post crap have no idea what's going on. We were told Harry flew by private jet to the UK. The DM even had a photo of the plane landing. on the tarmac. Unfortunately for them, there were photos pf Prince Harry sitting in first class on a commercial flight. American Airlines. But nothing stops them from just moving on to the next set of lies. It is exhausting.

r174 for r167

r172 Because Sussex stans are into narratives not nuance and not reality and facts. They are emotionally invested in a particular story.

r171 No he wasn't. Harry is drawing up the wrong dots in a haze of paranoia. He is a bit of a conspiracy theorist but with a silver spoon.

r176 Harry's book and interviews are peppered with lies. Are you one of the people who defended that as a different memory, minor details, alternative personal perspective?

I just couldn't get over the fact that blatant adulterers are on the throne. Adulterers are only for the US presidency.

@r153, "VIVAT REGINA CAMILLA! "

Please, I know more about Camilla's genitalia to last a lifetime 😉

Is anyone going to mention how totally skinny Princess Bea has become? 😳

R69 given Harry’s rank, second highest ranked adult male in the UK, he was basically in the cheap seats. Anne and her feather should have been behind him, not the other way around. But, the Royal are just as petty as any other family so here we are.

Imagine where they will try to place Harry at Charles funeral.

Guatemalan Foreign Minister Carlos Raul Morales?? Or who? Who is the "Mexican sidepiece Raul" of Dr. Prof. Jill Biden?

"Edo forever looking for the camera."

Harry: "Stick with me, Edo, and you'll be on the front page of every newspaper in the world"

r181 That tweet is a perfect example of the illogical nature of Sussex stans. Totally emotionally invested in a narrative and blind to facts. People are only evil demons or saints. All nuance stripped out for a simplistic fairytale.

Royals stans are becoming loons

r182 I think you've got that the wrong way around. People who put in the work year in year out and earn their stripes ie working royals BEFORE automatic entitlement regardless. I bet you think of yourself as enlightened and progressive yet you are putting forward an argument defending entitlement and elite privilege over work and character.

Did anyone learn why two of the Queen’s pages were dressed in black?

2 were in black. 2 were in red.

I have asked a number of times who Camilla's black uniformed soldier is. Her equivalent of Johnny for Charles.

She is Colonel of two regiments and her pages were dressed in both uniforms.

Are Edward’s children working royals or are they just too young to decide?

Ok, this became one of those threads!

Bye!

Major Ollie Plunket R190

Marry me, R187. Bloody well said.

MARY!

I'm assuming Ben Weller is of the persausia?

r195 Bless you and thank you!

It amazes me the number of Harry defenders who clearly think of themselves as modern and progressive who make make arguments of exceptinalism for Harry and his behaviour that they wouldn't make for other people. Elitism masquerading as fairness and liberalism. It's an odd phenomenon and contortion their mind is making.

Methinks he's a very good friend of Dorothy, R197

Woah Surviving whatever at r185. Methinks you need to look in the mirror.

Henry Bird made a cake.

Oh, my, the side piece has got herself a side piece 😉

r200 Why ? I have no problem being critical of the royals and have been numerous times. It is very striking to me how vicious and oversimplifying of issues Sussex stans are on social media. Their thinking is very black and white in a way akin to fundamentalists of different stripes. Sussex stans arguing against monarchy but passionately defending royal priviledges for Harry being maintained are one example of their malicious double think. It's incoherent to put it politely.

r202 Oh my he's delicious!!

How did Nick Cave of all random people land a coveted invitation?

R194 thank you, you're doing god's work. He has been noticed on Twitter.

Very cute. Though not in the gorgeous man range of Johnny.

r207 The Duke of Gloucesters older brother who died in a flying accident was very handsome.

R203… “Totally emotionally invested in a narrative and blind to facts. People are only evil demons or saints. All nuance stripped out for a simplistic fairytale.”

That’s pretty much you in a nutshell.

Has Meghan posted pictures of the most important birthday at Chucky Cheese, yet.

Delicious.

r209 An example please? What narrative am I invested in?

Girls, can you take the Harry and Meghan shit to a different thread? Let us be catty bitches about the coronation in peace.

Funny, but Anne's Admiralty boat with feathers was probably more interesting than everyone else watching the back of a chair.

William, the Head of the Church of England can turn the Coronation Chair around so that EVERONE can watch the placing of the crown.

[quote]Funny, but Anne's Admiralty boat with feathers was probably more interesting than everyone else watching the back of a chair.

Anne just slayed the whole day.

r214 Anne would make a brilliant monarch

[quote]it appears he's looking at William.

Sorry, I think I linked the wrong tweet. Check the one under that.

And she knows it.

[quote] Worst of all, William and Kate looked radiant, and their prominent role in the ceremony reminded the world what could’ve been.

If only Charles weren't so discourteous as to insist on continuing to live!

From Nick Cave's blog regarding his acceptance of the invitation to attend the coronation. I like it.

"'I am not a monarchist, nor am I a royalist, nor am I an ardent republican for that matter,' he wrote on his personal blog The Red Hand.

'What I am also not is so spectacularly incurious about the world and the way it works, so ideologically captured, so damn grouchy, as to refuse an invitation to what will more than likely be the most important historical event in the UK of our age.

'Not just the most important, but the strangest, the weirdest.'"

I still don't understand how he got an invite though.

Anne just doesn’t have the cajones to do what’s necessary. I shan’t be making the same mistakes.

It was perfectly petty to put Harry behind Anne's big feather. This after putting Meghan behind the big candle at the Queen's funeral. Gotta give a nod to the bitchy queens who run these events. They know exactly what they're doing and are genius in their vengeance.

Johnny, introduced by queen.

^ Has River died of an oestrogen overdose yet?

Seeing her Major has given me a new admiration for the Queen. Yass, Queen! Go get that!

Bitch can get in line.

[quote]Anne just doesn’t have the cajones to do what’s necessary. I shan’t be making the same mistakes. —Charlotte

LOL!!!

Anyway, the children looked beautiful--especially Miss Charlotte!

R181 - her waist is tiny

Not cojones, ferrum labia.

Is Ozempic available in the UK?

Word on the streets is that she's taken a keen interest in the story of Cleopatra.

Cleopatra was black.

Highlight of the ceremony.

So, the question on everybody's mind... Will Charles and Camilla have crazy king and queen monkey sex tonight? 🤪

[quote] As TZR’s fashion team notes, everything about Middleton’s ensemble has been carefully, meticulously selected for the occasion, and loaded with hidden meaning. Even her pearl earrings are special, once belonging to Princess Diana.

Oh, the shade. The shade...

[quote]So, the question on everybody's mind... Will Charles and Camilla have crazy king and queen monkey sex tonight?

Of course not. Why should she. That heifer has scored! She can now sleep comfortably alone and enjoy a good night's slumber.

Where was Sir Les Patterson?

Why bother? With her robes going from head to toe, she might as well have been wearing sweats under there.

Alone? With that fresh equerry?

This is why we can't have nice threads.

As well we shouldn't r240.,

Harry and the wife blew it, miscalculating their moves since the decision to strike out on their own. He's an easily manipulated dimwit, and she's a total asshole.

Out comes the Chambord bottle at R233.

Dear God, people are finding any reason to attack him.

That or some of that may be true, R242. But what is one supposed to do? How does one make a mark in society as the older brother is the one who gets all of the attention, and your only usefulness was being known as "the spare"? That ended when Georgie was born and sealed when another two children followed him. Where is the love and sympathy for Harry?

It’s crazy how some deranged people manage to make Charles Coronation all about Harry and his wife who was not even in attendance.

r245 So there is no value in society at all in supporting roles? Only the number ones kind of thing count? Ensemble is a dirty or alien concept? Anne has done lots of good and productive useful work not being number one as have many in society in all walks of life.

River stopped weeping happy tears long enough to issue a broadcast today, R224. Resplendent in her tiara, a vision in white, all aglow.

r245 It was never the case that Harry's work or Harry himself didn't get any attention. William has never got all the attention so that plank of your argument is wrong in that sense too.

[quote][R245] So there is no value in society at all in supporting roles? Only the number ones kind of thing count?

Ask Thelma Ritter...

But Willy got three sausages

Thelma Ritter was amazing. There are not small roles...

Harry has said he always felt like an outsider and that he doesn't fit it. He things he doesn't fit in because he is so, so much smarter, cooler, hipper, more enlightened, more progressive and more "healed" than the entire rest of his family. They funny thing about that is, the entire rest of his family (minus Andrew) comports themselves with humility and dignity. The entire rest of his family understand their roles. They understand that they are not celebrities, or rock stars, but rather servants of the people. The entire rest of his family (minus Andrew) do not put themselves above the family and institution that they were so blessed to be born or married into. They are not consumed with self-aggrandizement. And they seem (minus Andrew), also, to be humble and meek before God. None of them are druggies or alcoholics. Indeed, all of Harry's relatives seem to be quite mentally and physically healthy, whole and sound.

So yes, Harry, you are the odd man out. Just not for the reasons you think.

Willy got three sausages AND a larger bedroom??? Will the indignities never end???

High class welfare

I've been tongue in cheek a lot in my comments about the coronation, but I'm going to be serious for a moment.

I really find the rift between Harry and his family sad. There's enough blame to go on both sides. And each side could have been more conciliatory.

There was no way Harry and Meghan could ever be part-time royals. You're either in or out. It's the nature of the institution. That institution since George V has been guided by duty and service...and today that service is mainly shining a light on philanthropic works..

Meghan Markle was subject to vile, racist abuse by the tabloid press. The Royal Family should have been more forceful in its condemnation of the abuse. Issued a statement and call the editors on the carpet.

As an American and as an actress, I never thought she'd be content to fall in line with how the BRF goes about doing what it does. Perhaps they could have guided her more. And Meghan could have stuck around longer than she did. Diana changed it the way the BRF did things. Meghan over time could have had the same influence.

Meghan, too, could have followed the Queen's advice and turned to Sophie for guidance.

Harry and Meghan wanted celebrityhood over the work required of them. That's wrong.

I also believe they're trying to make money off their titles. They want a celebrity lifestyle. They want adulation, not the work required of royalty.

He ought to be ashamed of himself for that book. There will never be a full reconciliation. The book was cruel. He could have written a loving tribute to his mother. In such a book, he could have described his life of immense privilege and revealed that his father, though loving, was emotionally distant. He could have written from the perspective of the second fiddle...something reflective. Instead, his book was invective.

And the comment about the baby's skin color...that wasn't racist or even unconsciously biased. It was just silly. What was racist was the lady-in-waiting grabbing that woman's hair at Buckingham Palace and grilling her about her origins.

R256 Spot on dear. Harry looks bloody miserable leaving your shabby little country today.😂

[quote]Anne has done lots of good and productive useful work not being number one as have many in society in all walks of life.

What statues have been erected in her honor? What buildings have been named after her? After she passes on she (and her work) will simply become a small footnote (if that) in history. Do people even know who her children and grandchildren are?

Here's not so bonnie Charlie bitching at his pages. A crown doesn't make an old git a King.

Thank you, BonniePrince at R256.

I am very upset with they way Harry and Meghan have behaved. I'm staunchly pro RF in this debate. But God it was really fucking poignant to see Camilla sat on that throne instead of Diana. It hit me like a gut punch this morning. I reckon that William can compartmentalize more easily because he's Prince of Wales, and as such is actively engaged in the ceremony as well as in the institution. But for Harry, as a passive observer? Well, it must have broken his heart into a thousand pieces.

Katie isn't even 40 and already has the joyous Windsor bitch face.

R258 has a child's understanding of both human memory and the potency of the historical record for people who are less stupid than she is.

The present Princess Royal is fated to be well-remembered as an undaunted worker and a remarkable individual and personality.

The public don’t remember the previous Princess Royal, why would they remember Anne?

The weather was gloomy and the rain after the coronation is a bad omen.

Scourers joyously great their new monarch with:

Fuck the Royal Family feed the Poor.

R264 And the earth is flat and King Charles is a lizard

R262 Sure Klan

R264, the rain at Queen Elizabeth II’s coronation was famously torrential and her reign is viewed as being fairly successful.

Don't mind the meaningless Shriner's rituals and ridiculous cosplay but draw the line at animal abuse.

Speaking of "animal abuse"

Was Earl Spencer there?

^ Actually horses do their best work with blinders.

Meghan was offered plenty of help and guidance. She turned them all down. She even snotted off to TQ that "she had Harry." Why? She had no intention of ever trying to fit in or do the work of a royal. She wanted a title that she could merch for fame and fortune. End of story.

The royalists are annoying me

R260 doesn't know what the word "poignant" means.

Nor does she recognize how silly she sounds thinking that the Prince of Wales must "compartmentalize" his personal life.

The hubris of some cow pretending that she is more sensitive than William and that Harry "must" be broken to smithereens because he didn't have anything to do with his hands at the coronation is typical of other shits here, such as R267. They either must sentimentalize or fling their monkey shit.

Wilbur & Gladys enjoy Cosplay Nite at the Senior Center.

r258 But so what? That is the same for 99.99% of people and isnt reflective of whether or not their work and actions had a positive impact.You are more or less arguing for adulation and attention seeking ego.

I cared for an ill relative for 10 years.No one in 250 years will know anything about it-Does that mean what I did was a waste of time? No.I dont understand what you are arguing for to be honest because most people are not rembered lauded and praised and rembered long term in the way you say.

r261 Kate or Catherine is 41.

[quote] What statues have been erected in her honor? What buildings have been named after her?

I doubt that many statues of The Duke of Montecito will be erected by the grateful subjects of California either.

Why do they all look bloody miserable with one exception?

@r256, "And the comment about the baby's skin color...that wasn't racist or even unconsciously biased"

As a white man I'm going to go out on limb and say I'm not in a position to make a judgement on what is racist and what isn't. I have noticed that you make some of the most insane white-splaining racist comments on DL. You sound like a low-thinking hillbilly most of the time. I'm embarrassed for you. Try to do better

R278 Bitch looks 51.

JFC, Katy sounds desperate!

Ewww, r282!

Looks worse than Camilla!

[quote]Do people even know who her children and grandchildren are?

First time on Datalounge?

Haz looks like a dude who dodged a bullet.

Time to get some work done, Katherine. 😬

[quote]Why do they all look bloody miserable with one exception?

Because only coronation quiche is being served at luncheon without any other options. Harry escaped that!

[quote][R278] Bitch looks 51.

51? Why are you being so nice?

Over 1000 horses were used in todays ceremony. Wonder how many were injured maimed and had to be put down. What a vile lot the Windsors are.

R287, ummm… many people cross the line here on DL, but the reference to a certain baby? No. As a fan of no one in the BRF (although I like gossip), it’s posts like that that inspire phrases like klan granny.

R287 Is Prince Philip from beyond the grave.

Willy botched the two lines of his oath even reading off a cue card. He always looks like he's about to snap and lunge at Pa's throat?

^ I think Willy will end up murdering someone in the Royal Family and he'll get away with it 😳

[quote]Over 1000 horses were used in todays ceremony.

My cousins!!

[quote]I know Charlotte is a DL fave, but I think she might be a know-it-all in the making. Maybe even a tattle-tale. We shall see.

The Thindy Brady of the royal family?

Apparently William and Kate were late and Charlie had to wait out front till they showed. The ole git was apoplectic. It carried over into the ceremony and their "kiss of fidelity" looked more like Fredo's kiss in the Godfather.

I honestly believe both William and Harry are incredibly damaged. William mostly hides it better, but sometimes it comes out. Harry can’t hide it at all.

R300 you aren’t black. You should really stop speaking for black people.

I’m exactly William’s age… Legitimate question:

What happened to him?

He appeared to be a bright, self-assured young dude. But he now seems soooooo uptight. Even for a royal.

R298 Yikes! that royal dome!

On another note, supposedly Harry wasn’t happy with being seated in the 3rd row at his own fathers coronation. He knew he wouldn’t be seated in the special area with William etc. but he thought he would at least be a front row seater.

Uh-Huh... you don't want the secret to be known, R301?

[quote] As a white man I'm going to go out on limb and say I'm not in a position to make a judgement on what is racist and what isn't. I have noticed that you make some of the most insane white-splaining racist comments on DL. You sound like a low-thinking hillbilly most of the time. I'm embarrassed for you. Try to do better

Cite some examples R281.

R302 time changes people. Shit happens. I’m not the same as I was when younger. If you claim you’re the same person you were 20+ years ago then you’re either lying or lived a very charmed life.

R305 secret? Nothing is a secret. But your ignorance is too much and you’re crossing serious lines that will get you in big trouble. I’m just giving you a warning. You aren’t black. I would cut the racist shit out. Not everyone on here doesn’t know your real identity.

r304 Well he thought wrong. Working royals who actually keep the show on the road first before a sense of birth entitlement.

Fergie reveals the Coronation moved her to tears of joy.

I love being at grandpa's Con-A-nation...

Charles got the sausage fingers.

[quote]I cared for an ill relative for 10 years.No one in 250 years will know anything about it-Does that mean what I did was a waste of time? No.I dont understand what you are arguing for to be honest because most people are not rembered lauded and praised and rembered long term in the way you say.

Admirable. It truly is. However, everything is relative. When your ill relative passed on to glory did you get the bulk of the estate or was everything split evenly? That is if you got anything.

R309 The "show on the road" you mean the "circus in the tent"

Fergie was so moved she sucked her own toes. Touching.

r312 No I didnt get anything and my point is just as valid.

I hear that, r307. We’ve all been though some shit. I’m just a casual royal observer and was curious about William.

Is it Kate? I, as a gay man, think she’s fabulous. But is it her? Is it the weight of the rumored affairs?

It just seems like everyone who was excited about a William reign has jumped ship and has seemed to join a longer line for little George.

I predict Louis will be the one that the tabloids hate in the future.

[quote] Do people even know who her children and grandchildren are?

Are you kidding? People on here have the entire line of succession list memorized.

From the clips I've seen of Harry today, especially when he was coming in with the Yorks and seemed to be smiling and chatting - he seemed a lot happier and more at ease than when he was with Meghan at a similar affair at the Jubbly and again at the funeral.

I agree with QEII. He's stuck with an evil boss-lady and the sooner he breaks free, the better. The children have no hope unless she's bored with them. To be stuck with a malignant narcissist is pure hell.

He might never be really accepted at home - but even so, I think he will be so much happier when he's free of her - and when he's back home and relatively free.

The seat planning was interesting.Harry sat behind no nonsense Princess Anne with her big head dressing and in front of of one of Princess Margarets grandsons-a woman he slagged of in his book.

DAMN!

That's it?

King Charles' Coronation Ball Menu

Harry wanted out for years, Meg was his escape plan. People give her way too much credit.

He can still be "out" - he can start a reserve in Africa - or probably better still, just get an apartment in London and fiddle around (like he's doing in California but with much less stress.) Andrew would be a great role model.

People are star struck when it comes to royalty. I feel sure he'd come up with a coterie of friends to do drugs with, and party with, etc. And some fuck buddies as well. And he might get lucky enough to find a Camilla. But even if he doesn't, it would be so much better than being stuck in southern California - and with that harridan. I'm just thoroughly convinced of it.

What's the bet he didn't listen and just got loaded anyway

Lol Andrew as a role model, royalists have such low standards.

What a sour old sod he is. King Prisspot.

^ Charlie was furious Will & Kate were late and he had to wait since they could not enter after him

"one of Princess Margarets grandsons-a woman he slagged of

So there are Trans in that wacky Windsor clan? Who knew.

R325 oh I'm not a royalist. I think they're disgusting leeches. But as a separate issue, Harry is stuck with a seriously disordered sadistic narcissist who takes great joy in making him miserable. So go be the same sort of loser, Harry, but not with her! Be more like Andrew, who wouldn't put up with that shit.

And he's a Brit - doesn't belong in Socal. It's not like he's an actor or in showbiz in any way - Monty Python did a sketch about upperclass twits - one of them had an assistant whose job it was to knock them on the head a few times to get their brains back in the right place. Harry could be Bertie Wooster and the other leeches in BRF would hide him away as much as possible imo.

Random question that has nothing to do with the Sussex's.

Chuck was, what, four at his mother's coronation? Who swore to her as liege man? Philip?

R329, you’re making an awful lot of excuses for a grown man.

I don't think he's capable of doing any better. And I don't think he's malicious - just a spoiled idiot.

She, on the other hand, well, as wise Liz said, is pure evil.

r328 What makes you think he is trans?

I did note the stark contrast when the former PMs entered. Blair, Brown, and Cameron were joking around with one another, and their wives were all being friendly. May, BoJo, and Truss didn't even look at one another.

The derangers like pretending that Harry has no agency.

Also, this amused me

Can anyone imagine his Mum behaving like this?

^^ Disgraceful manbaby

r337 What do we reckon he was actually peeved or angry about?! r336 Now that did make me giggle...!

r338 What is the context for that Queen Elizabeth clip? She seems baffled.

Nasty old git is certainly not his mother.

The only one who looked like he was having a good time was Harry. Probably because he knew he'd be leaving this toxic shitshow in a few hours and be back with his family in the 21st century,

Talk of screaming matches between Charlie and Willie. Two narcissist manbabies. Camilla probably just grabs the Boodles carton of Dunhills and heads off to bed.

r342 There are other photos of him yesterday looking miserable and moody-Shall we post them too and play that kind of stupid game? If he wanted totally out he would bin the titles and would not have asked for half in half out.

Seriously, how did Harry convince himself that making a perfunctory appearance and sulking visibly, was good for his brand?

GRYFFINDOR!!!

Isn't Monday one of their nationwide royal Bank Holidays, though? A day "off" for Brits encouraged to hold their open-air big parties with neighbors and family in the streets (where I bet a lot of dumping of offal, poop and cum will also be occurring all the day and evening)!

[quote]I’m exactly William’s age… Legitimate question: What happened to him? He appeared to be a bright, self-assured young dude. But he now seems soooooo uptight. Even for a royal.

Isn't it obvious? William is heartbroken, exasperated, and furious at his brother, R302. He's been abandoned and betrayed by the one person that was supposed to have his back in this lifetime. It was always the plan that William would be King but Harry would be right there, by his side. His liege man.

William became persona non grata simply for caring about Harry enough to give his brother a bit of wise counsel. He cautioned Harry to take it slow with MM, and get to know her for awhile. William understood, like everyone else on earth except Harry and MM, that joining the RF is a huge deal. That it can be a massive style cramper. And that it's critical for the woman to be able to make a measured, informed decision f that lifestyle is something she could commit to long term. Spoiled, impulsive Harry spazzed out at the sheer AUDACITY of this measured counsel, and decided that Willy was now his "archenemy" and "nemesis" (Harry's exact words as written in his shady book).

Losing their mother was a tragedy, but it drew the brothers incredibly close. They had each other, and it seemed to be a sacred bond. To have Harry turn on him like this and backstab him, diss the family and the institution, and break their father's heart, totally blew William's mind. To have Harry abandon his role as uncle to William and Kates three young children has also been extremely disappointing and sad.

It's all been pretty extra.

So yeah, William is a bit stressed these days.

R345, honey, turning up and skulking IS Harry's brand now.

Drama unfolds at Hogwarts amidst all the festivities!

I thought Brigitte Macron looked terrific. Cherie Blair on the other hand looked like she'd just fallen off a bus from Appalachia.

Royal stans are the most autistic.

Meghan is like every other black woman, obnoxious and foul.

I just LOVE their outfits; and the pageantry is just so amazing! I just love it!

In fairness to Charles, he was also probably very overwhelmed to the limits today. Rocky times and stretches over the years regardless, for sure, his mother the Queen had her jubilee and shortly thereafter died, just within this past year; he lost his father the Prince relatively not much longer ago than that; he might be very burdened knowing the dissension going on between his 2 sons and the awkwardness associated with the way Harry came to attend today; he's basically been preparing and waiting for this event for decades...etc.

I sense a bit more deep-down sensitivity, mischeviousness and humor in his personality than his mother had or publicly portrayed; he was raised in a different era surrounded by differing events, after all. I think he's still got more influence and accomplishments under his royal garments' sleeves to surprise us all with. I think his critics should give him a little bit more of a proverbial break at this particular time, is all.

Oh, and Camilla's 1982 Linda Evans "Dynasty" dry-blown hairdo needs definitely to be sheared off and reimagined!!

How autistic are you r355

"Losing their mother was a tragedy, but it drew the brothers incredibly close. "

I don't think that was ever true. Sure, the royal Press Office was talking up the close relationship for years, but according to Harry's awful book, William wouldn't have anything to do with him when they were at school together, never had him over for dinner and telly lwhen they were adults living in apartments at KP.

Now obviously a lot of Harry's report was Harry thinking that nobody in his family was giving him as much attention and spoiling as he thought he deserved, and he thought he deserved infinite attention, but seriously - the princes have led very different lives and don't have much in common as individuals. Just shared trauma, which didn't actually mean a close relationship as adults. I think the Palace greatly exaggerated their closeness.

R348 (and others), that’s an awful lot of suppositions.

Catherine looked like the future Queen she is! Meg is only fit to scrub the toilets in the palace.

Adding that I thought it was sad seeing Harry walk into the Coronation and seem to turn, nod and smile to different people seated on both sides of the aisle as he strode down to his seat, while in reality it appeared that nobody was even really engaging or interacting with him to initiate his nods and smiles.

He can't have been surprised this is all happening, given what he and his wife have aired and published in public. Unless he's really that troubled that he just doesn't see it that way. There just was this photo still of him leaving the event getting into his limo, and his face had this look as if he were thinking: 'This was sad, but I suppose this is how things must be with my family from now on...' Yes, it did seem jarring for him literally to leave the ceremony and fly back home immediately, as if he was going just across-state in the U.S. -- but, really, how could he ever have remained and mingled in the festivities longer today, otherwise?

Enough not to figure out still a reason why you should've ever been born or matter to anyone, R355, you humorless ballsac? :)

Hopefully Meg and her mutts never step foot near the Royal family again.

Overall I quite enjoyed this day for the royals, but some things just didn't quite sit right with me..................

I just watched the rebroadcast on C-SPAN. During the national anthem, Harry was moving his mouth and sort of singing along just like everyone around him. He wasn’t singing with all his might, but he wasn’t boycotting. None of them were singing with any enthusiasm. They probably find it undignified to do so. Well maybe Prince George was singing out, but I couldn’t see him.

R359 Klan Granny Just call her the N word, you know you wanna.

I wasn't planning to watch it but then I realised it was 9pm for us, not the middle of the night so i put it on. Some of it was so bizarre that it was veering on satire though.

Thanks, r365. Interesting choice of words r359. Your klan robes are showing.

[quote] In fairness to Charles, he was also probably very overwhelmed to the limits today.

Waaaah!

Harry financially divorced himself from The Firm.

Harry went into voluntary exile in America.

Anything that Harry does is gravy for him and his family.

Unlike Andrew, he doesn't have to beg Charles for a cent. Harry is the first spare with his own estate. Diana planned it that way.

If Charles wanted to prevent looking like a dick, he'd Garter, Harry. An enticement to return.

I bet Harry arrives home only to find the California house deserted, with a note pegged to the refrigerator with a Disney Goofy magnet reading, "Gathered up the kids and flew alway with Brad Pitt to Japan, away from you and your stinky family forever!"

She could never snag Brad Pitt. With her reputation not many would touch her, even for a quick blow job.

Harry will return with instructions to his driver to take him directly to Chucky Cheese for a photo op.

R358 Yeah!! Tell her straight! Reading post's like the one at R348, you'd be forgiven for thinking the DL was a forum for gossip, debate, and pontification and conjecture, or something crazy like that!

Meg sullied that poor family, she is pure evil.

I forgot that it was Meghan and Harry’s coronation…. You bitches are seriously deranged.

R374… ummm… maybe you should check out some history. This family has been sullied many, many, MANY times before.

R355 In fairness to Charles he's a wanker and always will be.

[quote]I agree with QEII. He's stuck with an evil boss-lady and the sooner he breaks free, the better. The children have no hope unless she's bored with them. To be stuck with a malignant narcissist is pure hell.

Jesus. Wasn't someone saying upthread that it's the royal family stans who can't see reality?

Uh-huh.

This is the kind of "honest" observation the Klan Grannies love to pull out of their asses.

R370 "pegged"? wrong house Gran

This 74 yo juvenile has been waiting 50 years for this moment and the poor manbaby is "overwhelmed" . My sides. Stop I'm gonna crack a rib.

KGT (Klan Granny Troll) has the worst memes and pictures, really a sad sense of humor.

Katy Perry looked cute in her lavender suit at the coronation

R17, she was there because she is also part of The Prince’s Trust, as is Lionel.

How does she manage every time to make the finest material and jewels look cheap and trashy?

Google: Cheap and Trashy

She is beauty, she is grace

Daddy's home and we lived happily ever after!💕

R179 How ignorant are you? 😂😂😂 Do you have any idea of who has sat on the English throne? 😂

R256 What “racist abuse” by the press?

I re watched certain parts of it, and caught a glimpse of the Middletons. I saw Carol and Michael, James and Pippa. No spouses. Also saw John Kerry the former Senator was there. Jill Biden and her granddaughter were sat in a back row. But as they walked in I was impressed with how smart Jill looked. The tailoring on her suit was impeccable and it was a lovely color. She looked trim. I really enjoyed the music. Also, Charles was pissed off because William was late and he had to sit in his carriage waiting for William. FInally George was in place, and WIlliam and Kate fell back to come in last behind the procession, and I just loved the way Charlotte handled Louis.

[quote]I agree with QEII. He's stuck with an evil boss-lady and the sooner he breaks free, the better. The children have no hope unless she's bored with them. To be stuck with a malignant narcissist is pure hell.He might never be really accepted at home - but even so, I think he will be so much happier when he's free of her - and when he's back home and relatively free.

Paul Burrell agrees.

R369 If Harry is so financially well off why was he repeatedly calling his granny and his father for money? Harry complained on TV (at age 36) that his father had cut him off financially.

Christ on a crutch, I am so damned sick of this obsessive bullshit about Harry. This is a Coronation thread. And you fucking trolls have turned it into your usual bitchfest. You have nothing new to say. YOu just keep picking on a scab and you're following the lead of the tabloid press. This could have been a fun thread.

The rumours that the Coronation was going to be ultra woke turned out to be massively inaccurate.

This is a very geeky question, but did Charles & Camilla receive communion at the coronation?

If they did, the cameras didn’t show it - or I somehow missed it.

And a shout-out to Princess Anne for once again wearing menswear to the most formal occasion in the world! Not even a coronation is enough to get her to wear heels, now that her mother is gone!

Anne's hat could not have been more cool.

Even when pledging allegiance to his father. William looks and speaks like someone full of violent rage. Scary

I hate Katy Perry's outfit. It's ugly, unflattering, and ill-fitting, and makes her look 10-20 pounds heavier than she is.

Aside from the color, it looks like something Meg would wear.

I like Queen Maxima's outfit, though.

Was there a rule about who got to wear white? Could any bitch who had an invite wear white, or just upper royalty?

R399 You require assistance with reading emotions. Perhaps this might assist you.

There is speculation that Boris Johnsons wife is pregnant with their third child after she looked a bit on the heavy side at the Coronation.

If Charles dies before Camilla, what does she become when William is King? She won’t be Queen mother will she? Or will she just have to be buried with him?

Charles has declared that if Camilla outlives him, she will be styled as "Queen Mother of her Country", or some such foolery. Seriously, it was on the news earlier today.

She would actually be a "Queen Dowager", not a "Queen Mother", but apparently that's not good enough for Charles.

They received communion privately.

I think it was a mistake not to invite all the senior peers and have them swear loyalty as they did to his mother. The monarchy is fundamentally the pinnacle of the aristocracy. If the aristocracy can be shunted off stage during the coronation, I think it begs the question what is the point of the monarchy? It does not rule. It cannot represent blood and history all by itself. It stands on the shoulders of the aristocracy or it barely stands at all.

So let me get this right. William, Kate, and their spawns made the king wait during his own coronation, yet royalist won’t criticize them? But Harry leaves after the service to fly home to his son’s birthday party, and that’s a sign of disrespect?

Shit like this is why there is such a void between the two camps in the public discourse.

When did the Waleses make the king wait?

R393 this isn’t hard. Harry and Meghan hadn’t cut deals at that time. They were working on it but they didn’t get those massive Netflix, Spotify, and book deals at the time when his security detail was removed.

Note, non working Andrew had his security covered by the Queen and King Charles well after exile from public life. So Charles, a billionaire, was being petty. He was also the one to ask if Meghan would keep working when Harry was going to propose because he claimed there wasnt enough money to go around for another person. Tell that to William and Kate plus their three kids.

It was pettiness. Charles is like many narcissists, loves you when you act like a dog on a leash, but will lash out at the first sign of independence.

Removing a royal’s security details is how Diana ended up dead. Charles didn’t give a damn if the same happened to Harry.

R348 if William is heartbroken then he should pick up the phone and call Harry. No such communication has occurred so cut the shit with William giving a damn about Harry.

"Removing a royal’s security details is how Diana ended up dead."

No, letting a drunk drive her car is how Diana died, same as anyone who lets a drunk drive their car.

Are you Harry? You must be! Because everyone on Earth knows that the drunk driver was at fault but Harry himself, because he's completely irrational about the press and his mother.

r405, Camilla would simply remain Queen Camilla to differentiate her from Queen Catherine.

Her precedence drops as she is no longer the Consort. Catherine would be.

William may style her HRH Camilla, Queen of Whores.

William could also remove her HRH. He could restore his mother's HRH posthumously.

He put on the glove, he bore the sword, he held the scepters and cradled the orb. He wore two crowns. So why didn’t he put on the sacred ring? Were they afraid they’d never get it off his fat fingers?

Was anyone at the Not My king protest in London?

R299 William is university educated. He waited a long time to get married. He has a stable family life. William had made some really good choices. I hardly think he is “damaged.”

R410 No, it isn’t hard.

“Unlike Andrew, he doesn't have to beg Charles for a cent. Harry is the first spare with his own estate. Diana planned it that way.”

Harry did beg both his grandmother and his father repeatedly for money. “He was the first spare with his own money.” Why the begging then? Did his estate magically disappear when he left?

Diana refused security from the palace after her divorce.

She then got into a car with a drunk driver and failed to wear her seatbelt.

So I only got glimpses on my phone of the live ceremony, and I'm watching the rerun now in hi-def... and my initial impressions are totally confirmed.

Charles and Cam look so OLD!

They're in their mid-seventies, and they look old for that age, frail and barely able to stand under the weight of all the gold and ermine heaped on them. Every day I see healthier-looking people in their seventies on the street, every time I go hiking I see people of that age striding along the trails - they aren't fitness models but they're strong and active, they may look a bit doughy but they're still out there and moving at a comfortable pace that still eats up the miles and the altitude. Anne would fit right in on the trails, but Charles and Cam... they look like they're in their late 80s and their children are trying to take away the car keys.

I agree, R418.

And while I do wish Charles a long, healthy reign, I don’t see him on the throne at 96.

If that means William becomes King at, say, 46, then that wouldn’t be a terrible thing…

That purple top was a mistake, he should have had something more form fitting or formal looking

[quote] I’m exactly William’s age… Legitimate question: What happened to him? He appeared to be a bright, self-assured young dude. But he now seems soooooo uptight. Even for a royal.

I think William is far more like Queen Elizabeth II than his brother or father. Both Harry and Charles are unable/unwilling to conceal their feelings, whereas William always seems to be a little unknowable. In public, he is friendly and chatty, but he behaves in ways which are entirely predictable, and that allows him to keep part of his personality private.

This is essentially the way QEII conducted herself throughout her public life. The predictability of her behaviour and the strong grip she had on her emotions were the key to her success as a leader: people knew what to expect from her and could rely on her to react as they expected. And (like William) she managed to keep most of her views entirely private.

For someone with this personality type, it must be especially painful to be the subject of Harry’s writing. Harry has disclosed information which William would never dream of discussing, and has done so safe in the knowledge that he will never respond in kind.

R421 gets what a lot of people don't - for a person who's in the public eye, a perfectly smooth facade is a way of keeping their privacy. And to someone who can't escape scrutiny, like a monarch, it's the only real privacy available.

Someone like Elizabeth isn't being forced to stifle their feelings, they are choosing to hide feelings from scrutiny.

Hey, until I watched the full ceremony tonight, I had no idea that Anne took off her cape, and got on a horse to join the guard of honor!

She got the fun job.

I had hoped that after Lilibet died, Anne would cut loose. I'm glad she's doing it.

I love it! The rest of the royal family can barely move for all the silk and diamonds piled on them, and she's on a horse blending in with the guards.

She is cutting loose a bit, now that Elizabeth is gone, but in a way that doesn't interfere with being a Working Royal. She's just doing her duty her own damn way.

r425 you misspoke. Anne got on a horse and blended in with the HORSES not the guards.....

[quote]It just seems like everyone who was excited about a William reign has jumped ship and has seemed to join a longer line for little George.

Sure, Jan.

Did the DL notice that the Ukrainian First Lady was there? Stylish in green.

[quote]I just watched the rebroadcast on C-SPAN. During the national anthem, Harry was moving his mouth and sort of singing along just like everyone around him. He wasn’t singing with all his might, but he wasn’t boycotting. None of them were singing with any enthusiasm. They probably find it undignified to do so. Well maybe Prince George was singing out, but I couldn’t see him.

I was singing out, bitch....with enthusiasm. Here's proof.

Sing out, Louis!

R418 I agree. They looked especially drained and old. Low energy. In R429's video, the expression on Charles face or maybe I should say the lack of expression, looks like something I used to see on the faces of the patients at my mother's nursing home. I think part of it was stress about the event going well, coupled with sheer exhaustion. I would have thought Charles would have cut back on public appearances etc. in the days leading up to it.

Why were William and Kate late to arrive to the Abbey?

R421 William’s own staff member pushed a fake bullying story to the press. He was at demoted or removed from William and Kate’s employee list. Unlike QEII William gleefully plays the tabloid games and will lob grenades back at Charles and Harry. Liz would never do such a thing.

Don’t pretend their PR teams were feuding. William is not like Liz. She always protected her family and the institution. William is fine gettin I’m the mud, which leaves the future King, current king, and defaming looming messy.

R432, haven't read anything that answers that question. Yet. But I watched it live yesterday, and Charles' coach pulled up to the Abbey, and he sat there. Then some aid came over to the coach and opened a door and they spoke, then the aide left. Then Charles became very "animated" and he was talking and Camilla was either looking straight ahead or out the other window because she didn't need all that mess. But I was immediately reminded of the moment his pen didn't work and he lost it. He was clearly upset. So my surmise is that he was told William was running late and Charles had an explosion. Which explains William's expression and the tension he displayed when he approached the throne to kiss Papa, and Charles responded "thank you, William"

r410 Diana declined the royal security she wasn't refused it You have your facts wrong.

Moving on which female royal do we reckon was best dressed? I thought Sophie and The Duchess of Gloucester looked very regal and splendid.

R411 How do you know what conversations have been attempted to take place by William or not, you bitchy cunt? I have heard many accounts of William attempting to phone him, text him and have in-person heart-to-hearts with Harry. Fairly certain I have vastly more knowledge about all of this than you. William was desperately trying to get things back on track with his brother, ever since their grandfather's funeral. Harry just won't budge -- he's almost as obnoxious as you.

r413 Camillas mother died in her 80s. I genuinely think its much more likely she'll die before Charles.

On another note or rather on the topic of royal health, I noticed the Duchess of Kent aged 90 was absent again as she was at the Queens funeral which makes me believe the rumors about her ailing health and frailty are true. I think her last big event was Harry's,wedding and then one balcony appearance in 2019 pre covid. Her husband the Duke of Kent looks in poor health too. His sistter Princess Alexandra seems to have aged a lot since the platinum jubilee. The Gloucesters through look robust.

R436, and who are you claiming you know William has been calling. Ma Bell? Some proof please otherwise you’re just another William apologist.

[quote] He put on the glove, he bore the sword, he held the scepters and cradled the orb.

What is this, a folk song?

That should be the last televised British royal event for a while (unless the Grim Reaper decides to pick off a senior royal). I can't imagine Edward & Sophie's children's weddings will be televised, so there won't be any more of those until one of the Wales children gets married.

R440 the way Royalist talk, Harry is due for a divorce any second, so a new royal wedding may be 2-3 years away!

R438 Did you even read the book? Have you watched the documentary? Have you been keeping up with all of the commentary? I've been following this closely, in real time, for five years.

From Harry's own mouth and pen has come much of the information about William's many attempts to talk things out with him face to face. There's plenty of commentary on youtube discussing all of this. And the Netflix special shows William having texting Harry, who then, like the wimpy cuck he is, merely holds up his phone to show the text to his minder Meghan, who then exasperatedly says "I don't know. He's YOUR brother. I don't know," and leaves the room.

Harry doesn't want to actually discuss things. Harry doesn't want a two-way conversation. He has a script all written out in his mind, and if William or his father don't telepathically follow the script perfectly, prostrating before hm in apologia, Harry rejects it. This is all on public record.

Harry was basically Prince Louis when he was younger and then he made the mistake of marrying a black woman- which is apparently the fastest way to get the British public to turn their backs on you.

I want to know if Prince Andrew was given permission to wear the robes or if he snuck them in, changed in the car and just surprised everyone. And I want to know the backlash. I hope he gets evicted from that huge palace and they have movers come in and move his ass out.

[quote] The woman in yellow was singer Pretty Yende.

Talk about trying to draw attention to yourself on someone else's day.

Hmmm r444. You make a great point. Was Edward in a robe? We know Harry wasn’t. Ann wore a military thing. What exactly was the criteria?

[quote] Meg is only fit to scrub the toilets in the palace.

I wouldn't let her in the palace.

R446, Anne wore the military outfit, because after the ceremony she got on a horse and joined the Household Cavalry in escorting the royal carriages.

I think she's done with high heels, some older women get that way. I mean if she won't wear a dress to a coronation, where will she wear one? Can you think of any event that's MORE formal?

R446 It was from being Order of the Garter (I think its called). He was "entitled" to wear it but was told not to. Prince Harry could have worn some sash or something from the Victorian order but was also asked not to. The reason was "working royals" but Prince Michael of Kent was one row backing wearing his. I think Andrew just threw a temper tantrum and put it on and said what are they going to do? If they actually gave him permission that would be pretty crappy to just give him permission- especially since his own mother didn't let him wear it after the lawsuit payoff.

Lots of people haven't outgrew their Royal fascination it seems

Imagine growing up with all the privileges of royalty and then, the new king, your brother, requests something and you have a stampy hissy fit and refuse the request to do what you want.

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So it seems Charles held a birthday toast and raises a glass for Archie yesterday. ^^^

[quote]Lots of people haven't outgrew their Royal fascination it seems

Yes, proudly, I have not, and look forward to their ongoing story

R454 I know right? Why do these people come onto our Royal threads and bring down the vibe? They clearly don't GAF and have nothing to offer. Personally, I don't click on the threads that don't interest me only to then throw a giant shit fit about how dumb everyone is on the thread. I just scroll on down. But then again, I'm not an attention-seeking prick.

I think at some point either Andrew needs to be found guilty in a court of law or people need to let it go. The ostracization in lieu of an actual verdict is stupid.

Now I really want to know if Andrew was asked to skip the cape and regalia, as he most definitely isn't a working royal.

Because I can believe he'd say "Fuck Charles, I'm wearing all the ermine and shit", because this is his last public royal event! He's on Charles's shit list for life, he probably won't even get an invite to the Charles's funeral, because he's also on William's shit list.

[quote]Why were William and Kate late to arrive to the Abbey?

They were caught up in the throes of passion while getting ready.

[quote] They were caught up in the throes of passion while getting ready.

Hot!

[quote]Did you even read the book? Have you watched the documentary? Have you been keeping up with all of the commentary? I've been following this closely, in real time, for five years.

So sorry about your not having a life.

[quote]Meg is only fit to scrub the toilets in the palace.

For anyone still wondering what a "Klan Granny" is. Wonder no more.

I doubt Meghan is capable of doing any housework.

No mention of Bette Midler singing in the concert?Must have been a false rumour she was performing tonight.

I never heard that she was supposedly performing, r463.

Andrew wasn't wearing coronation robes, he was wearing the robes of the Order of the Garter.

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[quote]Meg is only fit to scrub the toilets in the palace.

Considering her huge reluctance to engage in actual work, I don't think it would be a good fit.

I think you are forgetting that Meghan puts in a full HOUR of work each week for Archewell. What more do you expect of her???

There are no actual sources in that article aside from The Sun, r446. The royal website had the list of performers up weeks ago and Bette Midler wasn't on it

Princess Eugenie said behind Kate at the concert. I think the rumoured rift must be over.

r469 I did say rumoured although it wasn't a Sun article I linked too.. Would be great if she is performing and it's been kept under wraps!

R470, when will you learn to ignore the rumours?

...Although my girlfriend says Bette Midler is appearing.

r471 I am on a gossip thread posting a light hearted comment. It seems you may be taking this more seriously than I am. You don't like gossip and rumours? Have no interest in them? Well each to their own.

r471 I am on a gossip thread posting a light hearted comment. It seems you may be taking this more seriously than I am. You don't like gossip and rumours? Have no interest in them? Well each to their own.

Lovely to see so many of the royal family dancing to Lionel Richies performance!

KGT (Klan Granny Trolls) are Stan Grannies

I have it on good authority from my friend who lives in London that Kate and William were not getting along all week and there was definite tension between them at the Coronation. William has been particularly edgy and out of sorts, all week. Also was told that the woman William allegedly had an affair with when Kate was pregnant with Louis, her husband has been promoted to some title by Charles and her son was George's partner as one of the pages carrying Charles' coronation robes. Since this is a gossip and rumor site I thought I'd just put this here.

I have it on good authority from my plumber’s sister’s third cousin twice removed that this is not true R478.

No Bette Midler.

R477, I know you’d like to think so, but no.

R478, I believe that. The fact that they were late was so weird. The biggest event of their lives and they’re late? Weird.

R481 It was super weird, you're right. I'd love to have been a fly in the carriage yesterday!

Ratings flop because the only stars they had cancelled.

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Lol r478, are we meant to believe this crap just because you have a friend who lives in London? I live in London and William and Kate have been doing events the past week, in London and elsewhere and there was no sign of any tension, just fun.

You trolls have been trying for ages to make this lie about William having an affair happen, but it just hasn't taken off, because it's bullshit.

R481, they literally had a video of themselves filmed as they were leaving the house to go to Westminster Abbey and seemed in good spirits and definitely not as though they had been rowing, as you are trying to imply. They posted it on Instagram, which you would know, if you actually followed the royals.

Just curious what brain glitch makes it possible to believe that William, who was a child of a broken home, would cheat on the love of his life and the mother of his children? Both of his parents cheated on each other, and it was hell. And because of the divorce, his mom ended up in Paris with one of her many boyfriend, dead. So we really still think William is that dyregulated, impulsive, slutty and amoral that he'd put his family, reputation and future likability as the King of England in jeopardy? All for the fleeting sense pleasure of getting to dip his wick in a different-scented candle once in awhile?

GET REAL

Since the Duke and Duchess of Overseas are laughingstocks and deeply unpopular, the Sussex Stans are desperate to smear William and Kate

[quote]Harry was basically Prince Louis when he was younger and then he made the mistake of marrying a black woman- which is apparently the fastest way to get the British public to turn their backs on you.

A manipulative, controlling black woman.

Get real by making shit up, r487?

R487 = Barbara Cartland

Now that the rumor of William’s side piece still involved with him is on Crazy Days and Nights, I’m sort of doubting it.

[quote]A manipulative, controlling black woman.

You sound charming.

It would’ve been so much better if the nobles had also been wearing their coronation robes and coronets and tiaras.

I agree, R494

R488, Are you a Klan Granny or a Racist Tory Cunt?

She either has implants or a great push up bra because she is so flat chested on her hike. Knew she would do something to draw attention away from the festivities.

* had implants

[quote]The biggest event of their lives and they’re late?

Childless gays, please, have you ever tried to get 3 kids under age 10 ready to go to school n the morning? Let alone camera ready and settled for the judging eyes of millons of viewers...

That’s a perfectly good reason when you’re late at the Chuckie Cheese r499, but not when your father is being crowned king. In the end, it means nothing, but at the time, his father was obviously pretty perturbed. I’m curious to know what happened.

If Wiliam and Kate ran late to the Coronation you can't blame them. There is a veritable ARMY of staff around them at these events, herding them from place to place and keeping the time to the exact second. Someone in the royal retinue dropped the ball here, either that or there was trouble on the route from KP to the Abbey, either the car or the driver didn't time things properly.

They took that video coming out of the house on purpose. THey wanted to show you how great and happy everything is. Something made them late. They have staff and governess Nannies, etc to help everyone get ready On time. The driver didn't mess up. THey have "an army of staff" you're right, R501. So it was something personal, internal that caused them to be late. Maybe one of the kids had a tantrum. Maybe William was puking from nerves all morning. But whatever went wrong had nothing to do with cars or drivers or staffers....IMO

So why were Willie and Katie late to the bloody biggest event in their lives? Late for Pa's big day! Egad! No wonder the old git had a conniption fit. Did little Louie have another meltdown? Was Katie too busy throwing up her breakfast? Tend to go with Willy getting the peg stuck up his way too tight arse with no butter at hand to fish it out. Sure the screaming match between father and son echoed thru Buck House when they got home.

R497 Yes, her great master plan was to go for a hike in leggings with two friends to shake up the monarchy. Oh, she is so devious. Next she will get a cup of coffee or gasp, go to a bar and get a Martini and where will the kingdom be then?

R421 I believe William was interviewed while on his gap year and he said he is “a very private person.” So, spot on.

Harry has low cognitive functioning and he’s impulsive. He’s also delusional and paranoid. He can be read like a book.

LOL yes, it's totally normal to call the paps to take photos of you while you go on a hike.

R504 Are the paps psychic? They hang out on hiking trails waiting for a celebrity? LOL

The "kingdom" is an every shrinking theme park run by cranky old gits supported by delusion fraus that worship them.

R418 How many people their age are rehearsing and planning for a coronation? A coronation isn’t a “hike.” Lol.

The only ones who look the part.

VPL alert on Harry. Page down to the photo of he and Megan holding hands (she's in the black dress). Even better if you right-click on the photo and "open image in new tab."

[quote]I think at some point either Andrew needs to be found guilty in a court of law or people need to let it go.

Guilty of what? He didn't break any laws. The girl was not underage and he was not involved in trafficking.

What he did was ethically and socially deplorable but in no way illegal. I suspect if he hadn't tried to cover up so lamely people would already have let it go, so long as he was kept in the background.

[quote]R76, You're still an idiot. You have no evidence re: "a lot of educated Boomers" (of whom I am one, but "agnostic" is more the accurate descriptor for me), never mind ANY WHATSOEVER for Charles. Then you state like you've got a grip on fact that his vows today are "not valid." You are talking OOYA.

Riiight. Churches across Western Europe have dwindling congregations and have trouble staying in operation but it has nothing to do with increased atheism. I'll bet a lot of churches have been sold off and repurposed.

I do enjoy your trolling though.

Sure, they were having a row and then thought "how can we cover this up?!". So called some cameras over to take a video of them leaving the house, fake laughing. Yeah, that makes sense. Except, that would require them to be hours late, not 5 minutes late.

R471, the source for the Mail article you linked to about Bette Midler was The Sun.

And, yes this is a gossip board, but I would have thought that you of all people would be aware that 99.5% of "rumours" about the royal family are complete bullshit. Best to refer to actual facts, like the official coronation concert programme, which has been out for weeks and which did not feature Bette Midler. Not to mention all the bullshit about how all the young Brit stars had been asked to perform but had declined because they didn't want to be associated with the "racist" royal family (despite them having been associated with the royal family in the past), when this was quite clearly not a pop concert and there was never any intention of inviting them.

Another example of rumours being invented on the basis of ignorance and people making shit up is the discussion on DL that Andrew must have totally ignored Charles and, on his own initiative, decided to wear a coronation robe even though he is not a working royal and should not have been. Or that they allowed even Andrew to wear a coronation robe but didn't let Harry wear one. Except a quick google of "what was Andrew wearing" at the coronation?" would have shown that he was wearing the robe of the Order of the Garter and not a coronation robe (his didn't even look like a coronation robe).

As for Eugenie, she doesn't completely hate her cousin Harry. That doesn't mean that she has fallen out with the rest of her family, though, for which there was never any evidence, only evidence that she supports her uncle and cousin William.

r510 My God we're reaching levels of cringe that shouldn't be possible. Its like someones Game of Thrones fan art.

British tabloids are just gutter trash..totally made up shit.

[quote] Guilty of what? He didn't break any laws. The girl was not underage and he was not involved in trafficking.

If he’s not guilty, then he shouldn’t be treated as if he is.

Another silly American trying to explain the treachery of Harold. When will they learn they are not entitled to speak about our beloved Royal Family. Especially if they are under 70 years of age.

I thought it was a beautiful coronation weekend . King Charles III will be a conscientious and hard working king . Queen Camilla has the ability to play nice in the sandbox. The future succession looks great , Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip worked hard in training and encouraging William and Catherine and that is already paying dividends . Their young family is lovely and it bodes well for the future .

I thought Prince William's comments last night at the end of the Concert were very definitive. Charles and William are going to make it all about Service in a very conspicuous way. And I think they will engage the community differently as well. There will be more of a "Let's all work together" atmosphere promoted. "I Serve" has been the motto, traditionally, but it will now be expressed in a different way

Does service mean cutting ribbons? It doesn't seem meaningful to me.

[quote]Does service mean cutting ribbons? It doesn't seem meaningful to me.

Those Tesco's won't open themselves.

Well, R522, I think that's the point I wanted to make. The way Charles and William will define "I serve." I think both Charles and William want to do more than cut ribbons. I think Sophie would probably agree. Not sure about Edward, but he'd probably go along with it as well. You have the old school types who will cut the ribbons, but Charles wants more substance to their functioning. Anne, the Gloucesters, Kents, etc can cut the ribbons and shake hands. These others may develop a more activist role. Hands on.

American, r522?

Canadian, R525.

To what extent can Charles and Wills be activists, R524, if they can't be seen as questioning or interfering with government policy?

R526, today has been described as a day to help out, a day of service in the Uk as it is a bank holiday. To illustrate and encourage it William, Catherine and the kids are out with the scouts hauling wheelbarrows and using farm equipment planting gardens or whatever. There are a lot of ways to serve and t o encourage service and build a sense of community. Charles meeting with environmental groups as an advocate, and encouraging projects that put the environment as their primary focus. There's a lot they can do to indirectly influence public opinion politically without uttering a "political" word.

Why does public service have to involve political activism, r526? Do you even follow what your king and his heir and the other working royals do? Just the very fact of different social groups, communities and public workers coming together and being celebrated at the coronation concert was a piece of public service.

I get that it's weird for Canada to have the British monarch as their head of state, especially as you have no connection to what he does every day of the week, but perhaps inform yourself before commenting. You're also welcome to become a republic.

See link for a general overview of what he does in terms of service.

It should also be remembered that the monarch is also the British head of state and that is a whole job in itself, which involves important constitutional and diplomatic activities.

I have seen Harry interview a number of times. He is not stupid. "Low cognitive functioning"? What is that crap? What's likely is he is quite dyslexic and perhaps other reading processing issues.

I'm not saying he's has a genius IQ but socially he seems well within the normal range of intellect. He's just not booking. At all.

**I'm not saying he has a genius IQ

Here's some thing from the Royal Family's instagram account that makes the point perfectly: "The Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh joined Hollie, Lucy, Luker, Nyla and Sunny and their volunteer puppy raisers at a special training class that celebrated the weekend’s festivities with a coronation-themed café. The interactive class focused on skills to help the puppies on their journey to become a guide dog and activities included participating in a recall session; food manners and how to refocus pups in a café situation."

The pictures of Sophie and Edward in casual clothes actually interacting with the trainers and the dogs is a lot different from the previous concept of the monarchy. Elizabeth shook hands and cut ribbons and cakes. This next generation and the one after it will do much more. Today is called #TheBigHelpOut It really is the only way forward for the Monarchy. It makes William and Catherine's contemporaries, and even those of Charles' generation, Royals in other European countries, look old and out of date.

Serve? Serve? LOL Charlie's a 74yo manbaby whose spent his entire hothouse existence serving one bloke: Himself. Here he is throwing a tantrum on the biggest day of his life. " IT'S SO BORING!" £100 million taxpayers money worth of boring. Can you imagine Queen Elizabeth doing this in public? Royalist are the biggest dumb fucks on the planet. You deserve this whining wanker.

R525 "American" as a mindless response by Royalasst of any criticism of the obvious turds that are the BRF. It is the equivalent of Trumptard Americans "Love it or Leave it ." when confronted with unpleasant truths about their country they have no rational response to. Just a pathetic ignorant fail. But if it makes it hurt less to be fucked by Charlie & Family by all means keep it up Hyacinth.

[quote]On another note, supposedly Harry wasn’t happy with being seated in the 3rd row at his own fathers coronation. He knew he wouldn’t be seated in the special area with William etc. but he thought he would at least be a front row seater.

You're a GD liar. You have no idea how he felt. You're just a liar

I would find it exhausting to perform “helping” and “participating in” events like the BigHelpOut.

R531 Yes indeed! Modern Royals! That's what Brit taxpayers demand . Pay millions of pounds to have Willie and Katie deliver piazzas and take orders for chicken curry. Next up: the Prince and Princess of Wales will detail your car! Value for quid! Hilarious. Roylassts are the thickest clots on the planet.

R528, I really don't consider Charles as my head of state, even though it says so on paper. He is a foreigner who lives far away. In the rare case when things go so awry in the Canadian parliament that there are no clear rules on how to proceed and the Governor General has to intervene, I wonder how much the GG relies on advice from the British monarch. I honestly wouldn't expect the monarch to be that familiar with Canadian parliamentary procedure and precedent and Canadian politics in general. I don't think the king or queen would be that helpful when it comes to giving advice.

I don't follow what the royals do. I know they all have their various charities but most of what we get here in the news are the scandals, eg. Sarah Ferguson trying to sell access to Prince Andrew, Andrew's connection to Jeffrey Epstein, etc. Of course, the entertainment news dwells on fashion faux pas and speculation on which prominent royals have strained relationships.

I see you're heavily invested in the monarchy, R528. If it were abolished, there are other people who could do their charity work.

I honestly would take a very cold blooded approach to the monarchy and do a cost benefit analysis. I would try my best to estimate how much money the royal family generates for the British economy (which I'm sure is hard to do with any accuracy) and how much the royal family costs to support. If they were a net liability, I would consider abolishing the monarchy. Of course, then you have to convince the majority of British people to go along with that.

R511, Nice to know the old gal could express such a strong opinion.

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R537 I'm Canadian as well and personally think it's ridiculous that the British Monarch is still our titular head of state. Virtually all of the monarch's "powers" have been transferred to the Governor General and I think the only power the King still has in Canada is to appoint a Governor General which he does on the advice of the Prime Minister. That being said, and I might be in the minority on this, I'm actually not keen on an elected head of state. Seeing what has happened in America and the also the leader of our political parties, I would rather Charles than a President Trudeau or President Poilievre. Although I think it would make the most sense to just elevate the Governor General to being the full head of state and be done with it (though I'm aware the constitutional amendment formula makes it virtually impossible to remove the Crown and we will be the last Commonwealth Realm to become a republic).

R540 I'm Yank but half my family is Canadian. When I asked them about keeping Charles as Canadian Head of State they told me they were not keen on it BUT it unified the country. If Canada dumped Charles then Quebec would take this as a signal to break with Canada and the whole Québécois National movement would flare up again. So they are stuck. That's what they told me.

R540, in the past, the somewhat distant past, weren't members of the nobility, or Royals appointed Governors General of the colonies and territories of the Commonwealth? I thought Governor General was a ceremonial, Ambassador-like title which simply affirmed the presence of the Monarch.

[quote]I honestly wouldn't expect the monarch to be that familiar with Canadian parliamentary procedure and precedent and Canadian politics in general.

Um, both countries operate under the British Westminster system of governance, but don't let that lift the fog in your mind.

R408. One side is exactly like trump supporters, who all hate Meghan. The other side are decent people

Anyone who is on the same side as donald trump is a piece of shit.

R544 You rang

^ Actually Charlie like the rest of the BRF loathe Trump. He gave him the finger at some banquet. Don't think it's so much his politics as they view him as an uncouth lout.

Uhm... I don't like it.

[quote]The Royal Family @RoyalFamily The first official portrait of His Majesty The King following his Coronation on 6th May.

IMHO, he doesn't come across as majestic and comfortable. To me, he comes across as; "Gee mom! Look at me!!!"

Pawpaws going to Mardi Gras.

The “regalia” look nice.

Betty's photo.

Much, MUCH, better!

[quote]IMHO, he doesn't come across as majestic and comfortable. To me, he comes across as; "Gee mom! Look at me!!!"

Eyes of the beholder, and all that.

I see dignified man in his senior years at age 74, who has been trained by the best (QEll) to assume the role of King of the United Kingdom and his other Commonwealth realms. I see him as the most experienced man on the planet to assume the role. He looks entirely regal in his first official portrait, albeit a bit unassuming as it is said he is a bit shy at times, as one would be posing as King for their first time.

You're adorable, R543. I seriously doubt that the U.K. and Canadian parliaments are identical in all their details. The situations when the Governor General has to intervene in Canada's parliament are very rare and very specific. R543, how did a Brit like you become an expert on the minute details of Canada's parliamentary procedure?

I really doubt that the abolition of the monarchy would result in Quebec separating from Canada, R541. I think separatism is a dying dream of Quebec baby boomers and I doubt younger generations are as keen about it. I vaguely remember some former Quebec premier (Jacques Parizeau? after the very close result in the referendum?) gloating in his autobiography that he used the threat of separation to gain all kinds of concessions and special privileges for Quebec during negotiations with the prime minister. I think the Quebec government has enough special powers that other provinces don't have that they won't be separating any time soon.

R543, I seriously doubt Queen Liz would be giving a lot of advice to Governor General Michaelle Jean on this situation but then again you would know so much more about it than I would. Maybe you were in the same room as the Queen when she was talking on the phone with the GG.

R551 Camilla your Boodles is beneath your bed. Thanks for stopping by.

Some people are born looking regal.

The Duke & Duchess of Edinburgh holding up 86-year-old Princess Alexandra. She's a game old bird.

Speaking of Cammie... Are there others who thought her brassiere (rather foundation garments) to be ill-fitting? Also, no one could find a spanx (preferably two) in her size?

R557, I'm sure that Cammie's undergarments were industrial-strength, but for a solid woman of 75... only so much can be done.

"He is not stupid. "Low cognitive functioning"? What is that crap? What's likely is he is quite dyslexic and perhaps other reading processing issues."

R529, I read Harry's horrid book, and recommend that you do to. Because if you read the book, you can look through Harry's eyes... and see him failing to understand what he's seeing right in front of him. He rants about the Palace press office, because he doesn't understand that they're there to serve the monarchy and not make him look good. He beholds Meg being two-faced and using his fear to manipulate him, and believes only what she tells him to believe. He sees regular folks doing stuff he doesn't like, and assumes they're motivated by spite or jealousy, because he doesn't understand the normal need to earn a living. He looks at the tunnel where his mother died, and decides that the press HAD to be responsible for her death, because it looks easy enough for a drunk driver to handle. Etc.

I don't know what the hell Harry's problem is, whether it's a processing disorder, low cognitive functioning, a personality disorder, being spoiled so rotten that he's incapable of understanding reality, all of the above, or other. But there's something deeply wrong with him mentally, he can't turn information into understanding.

Anyone know who this guy is?

Because all the snarky bitches and memes think he's someone in disguise, possibly a woman. Possibly Meghan.

He’s been identified as a composer.

Nobody thought that guy was Meghan. Someone tweeted it as a joke and the NY Post took it seriously.

The Wales children are wonderfully normal kids, as seen in this video of them making s’mores. The family is adorable.

^Of course they are. They shall inherit the kingdom. What shall Harry's children inherit?

Non-ending battles for recognition.

I felt bad for the people who had to march after the horses left their droppings in the road. You couldn't step around it and mess up the order so you just marched through it.

I'm glad Harry attended the ceremony but I understand why he wouldn't want to attend any functions afterwards. This was supposed to be his father's day. He didn't want to pull focus and have tongues wagging (although they are anyway) from KC3 and QC. At least that's my opinion. He wasn't/didn't feel welcome to attend any after-celebrations so he went home to his family. How many of us wouldn't have liked to make an appearance at a family function and then get the hell outta there?

Why are the Waleses all wearing Gryffendor scarves at their little cookout?

[quote] What shall Harry's children inherit?

Their chicken coop and the pile of chicken feces they play in?

[quote]'m glad Harry attended the ceremony but I understand why he wouldn't want to attend any functions afterwards. This was supposed to be his father's day. He didn't want to pull focus and have tongues wagging

I agree with you. I believe he made the better decision. The press is trying to create something that just might not be there. So what he sat in the 3rd row. The 3rd row is better seating than the 5th or 10th row. Had he attended the luncheon (and I don't blame him for skipping out on that. Coronation Quiche? SHEESH!) the attention would not have been on his father but more about the court intrigue nonsense

Has anyone made the Coronation Quiche? I plan to one of these days, as it's a reasonably inexpensive vegetarian dish.

I'm just having a hard time finding broad beans, or fava beans.

Broad beans in a quiche? Sounds awful.

Liz's Coronation Chicken is probably better.

Nicky shall help us make it!

Well, this is a funny—and highly accurate—replay of the coronation. Apologies in advance for the TikTok link.

In R563's Smores clip, William says "You're on fire, George."

I note we couldn't see what Charlotte did just before that.

I finally finished watching this coronation gathering thing. Can anyone explain the point of the woman in blue carrying the sword, what was the purpose of this? Is there a deeper meaning to this or just part of the spectacle?

Is princess Margaret 's daughter a lesbian?

R536 is that Williams cockhead showing?

Cammie's official portrait

The photographer should be fired...

Is that William's Thang hanging all the way down ear his knee? At r536? William always wears tight pants

[quote]Cammie's official portrait

Did she know that a bedroom rug got caught on the back of her outfit and she was dragging it around?

R559 "he can't turn information into understanding."

Based on your psychobabble tirade you two have a lot in common doll.

R579 That was no bedroom rug that was her labia.

She looks quite good, R577, except for the rumpled train.

These old biddies who fetishize these children are at best pathetic and at worse stalking pedos. Get help!

[quote]Can anyone explain the point of the woman in blue carrying the sword

It was teal.

She’s president of the Privy Council and a high officer of state. The Privy Council was sort of the Cabinet when kings ran things directly. Now it’s largely symbolic. Swords usually stand for authority in this British mumbo jumbo.

R569, you can use frozen Edamame beans instead. Turns out fine.

r577, she looks like a housekeeper at the Ritz.

That's a great picture, R550. She wore the crown well. Chas looks like he's playing dress-up, which I guess in reality he is.

'"She wore the crown well"

Sure Gran,

The lickspittle ROTA have shrieked for the last 4 years "Look how Harry & Meghan are shamelessly exploiting their children to the media! " Now this The Big Pimp Out. Royalassts are pathetically ridiculous.😂

It is only exploration when non white children are exploited actually it's slavery.

People keep mentioning that Wills and Kate would have ensured the monarchy 's survival by modernizing it, that Charles and Camilla should have been skipped over. What exactly would modernizing the monarchy mean?

If an example were needed of "anti-climax", one need look no further than the Coronation of King Charles III. No one was interested, everyone was going through the motions. If it weren't for the Archbishop of Canterbury, whose job it obviously was to keep the show rolling and on course, the whole snore-fest would have ground to a complete halt out of sheer indifference. Yes, the late Queen is an impossible act to follow, and Charles is well aware that he is but a very pale shadow of his mum's true majesty. But the coronation didn't simply signal the end of an era, but rather was a harbinger of the waning of an institution, of a country and mentality that was but no longer is, of the last vestiges of the belief in this realm, this England.

Big show of non-CofE Xtian clergy, while the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc clergy. were excluded, relegated to the church entrance to receive a few seconds of the King's favor upon his exit. England may highlight a bit of non-white flesh in the interest of social harmony, but its Xtian dominance and bigotry are proudly unassailable.

I don't image that there will be a whole lot for William to take on when his time comes to inherit the crown. Perhaps that should be not when, but if.

Click on R550's link, cuntessa R589.

R512 A trafficked woman can’t consent to sex.

R529 It’s well known that Harry is stupid. He failed the entrance exam to Eton. He required “assistance” to pass art. He didn’t attend university like William because he didn’t the have the intellectual capacity to succeed there. He failed his pilot’s exam multiple times. He left the army because he couldn’t pass the promotional exam.

You need to catch up. A person can be both stupid and mentally ill.

"American" as a response to idiots who say completely stupid, moronic things like " if it makes it hurt less to be fucked by Charlie & Family by all means keep it up Hyacinth" is an entirely appropriate response.

R59, no doubt you'll still be saying this kind of thing when George's future grandchild is crowned (not that you will live that long).

R596 The proof is in your pudding doll.

R512 She was a whore, having sex was her job. She could have just walked away from it all.

I don’t believe that anybody is surprised that a Prince received a blowjob from a 17 year old.