New York on cusp of being first state in nation to ban natural gas under new budget — and residents are furious

New York politicians ( amongst the worst in the world) produce enough natural gas to power the world for decades.

Why go looking for issues when so many real issues were ignored

In related news, Rupert Murdoch not a fan of efforts to combat climate change.

Fuck off, wingnut troll.

I was thinking California would ban them due to the recent studies about gas stoves causing health issues.

and a good night to you R3 🤡

and what about electric bikes?

R2 links to the New York Post

New York City officials shut down four parking garages Friday "where structural concerns necessitated areas of the buildings to be immediately vacated" in the wake of the deadly collapse in Lower Manhattan.

Same story; different channel

Are the building code enforcement in NY not done by municipalities? Where do parking decks intersect with gas stoves? Regardless…

OP I suggest you just do as some do in the South when it gets cold and set up your Weber Grill in the kitchen. Just a dozen briquettes or so will have you whole house warm as toast.

Restaurants are equipped with more proper ventilation to use gas for cooking. Homes and apartments are not.

A house near me literally exploded into oblivion due to a gas leak. The property still is vacant.

I love to cook, electric and induction are just fine.

I've always been uneasy about gas stoves, they smell pretty strong. Which means you're inhaling fumes....didn't realize it was such a fire hazard though.

[quote] New York politicians ( amongst the worst in the world)

Yes, our little pullet-faced friend, we see … we see.

I’ve had gas stoves my entire life. Never had a problem. I know people who complain about having electric stoves.

New York being fucking New York. The upstate folks must be seething with more idiocy coming from downstate groupthink.

If it's of such utmost importance to your life, don't buy or rent a New York State properly built after the regulation takes effect.

I've never bought or rented or lived in any but historic buildings my whole life. It's a preference, but by no means difficult to adhere to, particularly if you expanded the scope to all existing buildings before 2023 or whenever it may take effect.

don't Ina Garten, Martha Stewart, Gordon Ramsey, Wolfgang Puck . . .prefer gas to electric?

[quote]If the power goes out, then what

People will be inconvenienced until it comes back.

What do you think happens when the power goes out? Are you feeding dying orphans with your gas stove?

Why are MAGAts so dramatic?

R17 has worn out the letters M-A-G-T-R-U-P on her keyboard

[Quote] I've always been uneasy about gas stoves, they smell pretty strong. Which means you're inhaling fumes....didn't realize it was such a fire hazard though.

People are the real hazard.

-'Officials said something was left cooking when the family fell asleep.' -'FDNY fire marshals determined the fire started in the kitchen and said there was no smoke alarm present in the apartment.'

I was going to buy a hybrid gas range (gas hobs, electric oven) until I saw what an induction range can do.

The ease of clean up especially sold me.

Love induction!

OP we are not furious. Be we wanted this. Mind your own beeswax.

[Quote] Mind your own beeswax.

Miss Lindsay Graham has joined the chat

What about unnatural gas??

R17 how in the fuck do Americans manage to politicize a type of stove?

I'm embarrassed for you.

I grew up in upstate NY and nobody I knew had a gas stove in their home. When i moved to Brooklyn and saw that my kitchen stove had 4 constantly lit flames under the burners and one under the oven, it totally freaked me out.

I'm so thrilled to be back in a building with only electric ovens.

This law will be for NEW construction. No one is coming Ina Garten's stove. I don't know anything about the issue but if Albany is involved I'm sure it's political.

From NYT

Ms. Hochul said on Thursday the deal was a “conceptual agreement” whose broad strokes needed to be “fine tuned” before a final vote was held. The proposed ban would not apply to existing buildings.

Ms. Zielinski said the measure would also allow exemptions for facilities that may need to use fossil fuels for emergency backup power, including hospitals and laboratories. And she said the governor’s office was still “figuring out” how the measure will be applied to new construction in areas where the electrical grid may not be up to the task.

[Quote] Be we wanted this

Oh, dear!

No one is "furious" or "seething" about the house they were going to build in the future except the Maggots.

Most gas appliances can be easily converted to work from butane/propane gas bottles, you just switch the jets. It'll take a long time after the natural gas supply is totally switched off to rid anywhere of the appliance's.

[Quote] No one is "furious" or "seething" about the house they were going to build in the future except the Maggots.

Maggots live rent free in her head

No serious cook would use an electric stove.

Who actually cooks in NYC other than gays?

For R25 Upstate New York = Yonkers.

Why are people like OP so dedicated to hating anything that might help the environment, even if it does mean that, gee, maybe they'd have to sacrifice lighting a gas stove?

And why are people lie OP so dedicated to linking to the far right wing NY Post?

Upstate = The Bronx

[quote]The upstate folks must be seething with more idiocy coming from downstate groupthink.

Oh honey, the upstate folks live in Kentucky. Like we care what they think?

Good for NY for trying to reduce fossil fuel dependency.

[Quote] Who actually cooks in NYC other than gays?

Brooklynites

Officials said something was left cooking when the family fell asleep.

She inhaled our kitchen!

The Colbert Report

Stephen Colbert sparks backlash with joke about ‘dangerous’ stoves: ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about’

Next on Hannity: The Liberals' War on Stoves.

Let's be honest here .. gas cooking appliances are becoming downmarket at a rapidly accelerating pace.

The diehards who love their gas stoves will be dead sooner than later, after they have used the planet without a fare-thee-well to coming generations.

Younger generations just add this reticence to part with gas cookery to the list they believe that current generations have screwed things up for them.

Aside from stoves, how common is heating by natural gas in NY?

Lol no one wants to buy a multimillion dollar house that doesn’t have a gas range.

As someone who has only used gas stoves in other people's homes, can someone who owns one tell me what's so great about them?

I thought it smelled and took forever to heat up a pan or food.

R45

It's easier to regulate the heat/flame on each burner, and you can get a much stronger heat/flame for cooking. That's primarily true for natural gas; propane does not provide the intensity that natural gas does.

I've also used induction, and it's great.

Gas overns, however, don't seem to heat evenly, and forget broiling - gas can't broil a steak. It can make meat grey, though, if that's your preference.

R45 there is a reason restaurants use gas. You can regulate the temperature easier. I don’t know what you’ve cooked on but a decent gas stove heats much faster than an electric one.

Damn those overns.

Interesting that the right wing news is circulating this. Pathetic. If you are worried about gas stoves, besides their having lack of maintenance causing explosions and major fires, that’s good, but the alt right needs to look for things actually more dangerous and toxic, like maybe banning guns.

Read this:

R46 I had my fan assisted gas oven replaced with a conventional model because I like the different temperature areas in the oven. Hot at the top, medium in the middle, and cooler at the bottom. I have a gas salamander grill for steak, they are dangerously hot.

The unhealthfulness of indoor use of natural gas is a real issue. Natural gas is linked not only to greenhouse gas, but the nitrogen dioxide produced and concentrated indoors is an asthma and COPD trigger. Sorry you hate science and progress. Scandanavians think we're savages for using NG appliances indoors.

You need a really good extractor if you use NG indoors. Much easier to install in a house rather than an apartment.

[quote] When i moved to Brooklyn and saw that my kitchen stove had 4 constantly lit flames under the burners and one under the oven, it totally freaked me out.

MARY!

Don’t worry, they’re determined to fuck restaurants other ways in NYC.

Hey, if NYers are happy about these choices, fine. I would be more focused on reducing crime.

More nitrogen dioxide

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more dain bramage

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more Republicans

No chef uses electric stoves in the restaurant. None.

R57 = ostrich with head in sand

[quote] People will be inconvenienced until it comes back.

And freeze to death in the middle of winter.

Most of these politicians use private planes and aren’t affected by any of this legislation. They’re rich.

[Quote]Who actually cooks in NYC other than gays?

Millions based on the number of families purchasing food at one of many supermarkets and not just welfare recipients.

I"m more worried about the aging gas infrastructure. I see explosions, flames.....

[quote]I grew up in upstate NY and nobody I knew had a gas stove in their home. When i moved to Brooklyn and saw that my kitchen stove had 4 constantly lit flames under the burners and one under the oven, it totally freaked me out.

You're easily freaked out.

So, r62, do you see...dead people?

They'll be coming for gas-powered cars a lot sooner than you'd imagine. Wait till the panic sets in after a particularly nasty summer ...

Right wing outrage thread

During the great northeast blackout in the summer of 2004, it was nice being able to fry some bacon, scramble some eggs and make some coffee in my moka pot all using my gas range. I was also able to make phone calls using my plain old telephone service copper landline.

R24, Because MAGAts raise a stink whenever a Democrat wants to stop dangerous or harmful activities.

If Ron DeSantis said that gas stoves were "WOKE" and thus must be henceforth banned, they'd be all for it.

Just Madeline Kahn in her role in "Clue" R62