My mother refuses to not smoke around my children!

Oh get over yourself. Your kids will survive one visit with smoking granny.

First World problems.

Congrats on the the family additions!

Now, this is DL and you had have seen it coming. How old are you if your mother is 86 and you just adopted toddlers?

You sound like you're a blast at parties, mincing priss-pot.

Your partner should divorce you and raise the children like a normal person.

R3 I'm the last of 6 kids. I'm 44. My mother had me when she was 42, and yes, she smoked while she was pregnant with me. Disgusting, I know.

We want to let life with Gramma! Please 🥺

First tell us who's going to inherit the eight-bedroom house. Then we'll tell you what to do.

Give OP a break. OP, just take them with you to her house and then all pack up and leave when she lights up. Yes, there will already be smoke in the air when you arrive, but you will regret them not having met her. As to them absorbing toxins from the furniture, put them in long-sleeved tops and full-length pants.

I bet it will be a short visit. People who smoke the hand-rolled cigarettes seem to always smoke them constantly.

R7 My 4 year old is well aware how disgusting the situation is. Her birth-mother was a prostitute who smoked. As such she isn't very keen on meeting my mother. She's taken to calling her "selfish ciggy" and "ciggy mimmy" (my mother's name is Miriam). I'm frankly astounded by how much integrity she has for her age, and happy she sees my mother for who she is. Nontheless, she deserves to meet my mother, at least once.

R8 That I'm not sure of! Only two of my siblings remain. One committed suicide, and the other two died of lung cancer (neither smoked!) Thanks, mom.

R10, and you actually let her call her “selfish ciggy”? What do you think that’s teaching her exactly? Just curious if you’ve asked yourself that question.

[quote]yes, she smoked while she was pregnant with me

Well, that explains everything.

I hate smoke and smokers, OP, but I sincerely hope your mother cuts you out of the will.

This is a troll, you dingdongs.

[quote] My 4 year old is well aware how disgusting the situation is. Her birth-mother was a prostitute who smoked. As such she isn't very keen on meeting my mother. She's taken to calling her "selfish ciggy" and "ciggy mimmy" (my mother's name is Miriam). I'm frankly astounded by how much integrity she has for her age, and happy she sees my mother for who she is. Nontheless, she deserves to meet my mother, at least once.

You have disparaged your own mother in front of your children? And it seems you also encourage your kid to despise her birth mother.

I see that the smoking troll is back. 🚬🚭

OP, one day your adopted children will end up murdering you so why are you so worried about a little second hand smoke?

R16 I do no such thing.

When this all started, my eldest would ask why she couldn't see her grandmother. I delicately explained that her grandmother had a very bad habit which could negatively effect her, and that as her father, I wasn't willing to risk her well-being in the name of familial ties. My eldest then sprung up and yelled "cigarettes?!" I said yes. She still remembers her birth mother and those times. I didn't have to say anything. From then onward, she's been very trepidatious about her grandmother.

0/10

Keep the children away from the smoking grandmother.

A friend of mine's parents smoked non-stop all around them while they were growing up in the '60s & '70s and my friend has been prone to pneumonia all of his life and has terrible respiratory issues.

Don't do it.

I volunteer to teach OP’s kids how to smoke once they are of age, say, seven.

Are you related to the Shit Brickhouse troll, OP?

No point, R22. They'll have killed OP and his husbear by then.

Fuck your mother, OP.

Never see her again.

She doesn't consider those kids her grandchildren, anyway.

OP is why I am considering leaving DataLounge. And of course this bad fiction involves an EIGHT bedroom house?…Hooverville Fiction.

Have you told your mother smoking leads to premature death?

OP your mother is 86. That means you are probably 55ish (or older) and you adopted a 3 year old? Sad...

Actually, we're kind of sick of the visits also. Those kids are weird. Maybe we should take up smoking.

OP, I agree with you.

I was a child that was subjected to chronic smokers and I’m still bitter over it.

I remember my family eating food in the smoking section and I would scarf food down and then go sit in the car to not breathe it.

oh please. In the not too distant past everyone smoked, including pregnant woman. Hell, as a 10 year old, my mother sent me down to the grocery store (with a note) to pick up her smokes. relax, they will be fine

My takeaway. OP humblebrags about the 8 bedroom house of his mother, but doesn't type simply "Mother". Types "My mother". Sheesh!

Pathetic. Turn in your EST and gay cards.

I would love to see my grandkids. Their hands would be perfect for rolling these things!

Oh, William, she's your STEPmother. Tell Kate to back off. George is probably already lighting Gammy's cigs for her.

OP here.

I just got off the phone with my mother. Phone calls with her are arduously long as she emphysemicly gasps for air in-between every word, but he's agreed to meeting outside in her garden when the weather gets better. She hasn't tended to her garden in years and last I saw, cigarette butts were littered every where, but I'm glad we're making headway.

Throw her in a grease fire, OP.

Is the 4-year-old's name Karen? Because I think it is, based on her comments to you, OP.

8 bedrooms?

Is your mother’s name Tallulah?

You sound ridiculous and one day regret keeping them from her.

Have you developed any /real/ hobbies or interests yet, OP?

Well, OP is trolling DL with ESTs, if you can call that a hobby.

"You read W!?"

"Those kids got STICKY FINGERS"--------Granny

"I said my garden has weeds and those Heathens asked me if they could take it to school and sell it"-----Granny (setting the record straight).

It’s not long term exposure, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Second and third hand smoke didn't kill my kids.

"All I'm saying is I had a 20 dollar bill in my purse. Those brats show up and then I have NO 20 dollar bills in my purse. You do the math"----Granny (setting the record straight).

We rolled it into a ciggy for you, mimmy r47!

What else does OP protect his Precious Little Charges from?

I’m sure it’s a long list.

"I overheard one of those little devils say their family is moving into MY house after I die. Good luck with that. I wrote my will and ain't leaving any of them a thing..Instead of my son nagging me maybe he should figure out trying to explain to his hellions his "medical condition". I love my son but he had more men than a 7-11 mens restroom"-----Granny (keeping it real).

"My son and his partner told me their 3 year old is going to be their Trans One so I should only buy him dresses"----Granny

What sort of geriatric hepcat rolls her own?

Coolest grannie ever r52!

"My fake grandkids are named Synnamon and Zarahmee"-----Granny. (this is what I'm putting up with)

When Mimmy has her special cigs, she is happy to watch Elmo for hours on end and doesn’t even mind being called Mimmy. Is that not a win/win?

[quote]What else does OP protect his Precious Little Charges from?

OP's straight-edge wide-eyes staring. He loves to smile and stare while saying and doing nothing. It's his hobby and his interest.

[quote]r54 "My fake grandkids are named Synnamon and Zarahmee"

An’ that’s another reason those little crack babies ain’t goin’ in the will - can’t spell their damn names.

A rare short-story song from the disco genre ... "There But For the Grace of God" by Machine ...

Carlos and Carmen Vidal move out of the Bronx to protect their daughter — "Let's find a place they say, somewhere far away, with no blacks, no Jews and no gays" — but the daughter ends up "popping pills and smoking weed," running away at 16 with "a man she met on the street."

[quote] I've also researched the effects of third-hand smoke, so…

OP wants to [italic]speak to the manager.

OP overplayed his hand with the reply at r10.

These threads are more fun if you keep it just barely plausible.

OP, when I was 12, we visited my grandparents at their house, and my grandmother taught me how to play poker. I picked it up pretty quickly, and pretty soon was actually beating her in hands.

She smoked like a chimney inside. After I had beaten her one too many times, she said, give me your hand and look me in the eyes. And as she was holding my hand, and I was staring straight into her eyes, she slowly lowered her cigarette and stubbed it out on the back of my hand. I jerked my hand away and ran and told my mother.

And my mom's response was, oh yeah, she's done that to me before too. And then she still made me go visit them for the rest of their lives.

I survived. Take your kids to meet their grandmother before she dies. A few visits are not going to affect their health that much. And I very seriously doubt she'll try to stub a cigarette out on your kids like mine did.

I'm team granny!

-Still alive at 86 yet being a smoker

-Lives in an 8 bedroom house

-Rolls here own ciggies (that's pretty bad ass)

OP, do your children crawl back into a plastic bubble once you get them back home from being out in the toxic, big, bad world?

Stick it up your hole OP, you sound absolutely fucking exhausting. Nicotine particles from furniture

Have I suggested menthols?

Problem solved!!!

I'm always on the look-out for new nicknames for my cats, so I may use "Selfish Ciggy" for my greedy cat and "Ciggy Mimmy" for the other one. Thanks, OP.

I remember when DL ESTs used to be amusing.

Sigh.

It sounds like you dislike your mom, regardless of the smoking. Maybe u think or know she will be unkind to the kids? But arrange to meet up outside if she has any kind of garden. I think the fact that she won't do this one thing for you (agree to not smoke around the kids) is what's more upsetting than the health issue...but u are both being equally stubborn, no? Bring the kids NOW, just Do it. Before it's too late. And tell us how it goes. It will either go well or not...but GO. X

I really wish I was healthy enough to smoke. I find other people's smoke annoying because my chest isn't good but fuck I'd love to have a smoke several times a day. Does your mother have an outdoor area with furniture, OP? A porch? She can withstand chronic smoke inhalation but not being outside?

Anyone else grossed out from the Hillbilly Trash who throw their cigarettes on the ground as they are entering Wal-Mart and Krogers?...Also I am thrilled to not have the Vapers blowing their smoke all over me anymore.

M.A.R.Y!

Why is it so important for him to kids to meet a old woman that is not their biological grandmother?

The hands that hold the purse strings - -

Replace the cigarettes with some good weed and see what happens.

Quitters never win and winners never quit! 🚬

R65 I had a cat named Swilla when I was 7

I can't believe this is the kind of gayby shit we have to see when we come to a gay forum these days.

OP, I know your mom. She quit smoking years ago, but hasn't told you because she's scared your smug, judgmental self is going to want to visit more often.

OP you seem mentally retarded

R35/OP: [italic]"he's agreed to meeting outside in her garden when the weather gets better."[/italic]

Is Grannie trans, too?

[italic]"I'm glad we're making headway"[/italic]

Not in this EST you're not. More like headed downhill, fast.

I hope this is an EST and a rationale adult human being isn't behaving like this

I feel for you, OP. Reminds me very much of my mother.

OP, I think you're an Elaborate Scenario Freak but never mind. I was raised in a time when everyone smoked. Both of my parents smoked constantly, my father's brand was filterless Lucky Strikes. We lived in a very large, old house. Everyone managed to survive it and go on to get good educations and lead healthy, productive lives.

Your fictitious mother is 86 years old. Lighten up, Francis.

Tell your mother there will not be a future visits unless she promises not to smoke when the kids are around. She can make her own decision for herself.

You need to take some advice from Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, CO, and reverse-engineer it.