Sarah Ferguson: "Leave Prince Andrew alone and let him rebuild his life"

Good god, she looks like shit. More gremlin than human in that pic.

She looks fine, r1.

That is one of the WORST pictures of ANY celebrity, EVER!

Nah, Joan Rivers toward the end had 'em all beat. Spooky looking!

She's such a twat. Sticking by him after what he's done. I guess the allure of being so close to the Royals was too much to give up.

She needs to rebuild that headband.

Now you know why I don't want this COW at my coronation.

I wonder if she’d feel the same way about another man, if he’d raped one of her daughters.

“Hadn’t the poor chap suffered enough?”

Wasn't rape rape, r8.

Sarah's gotta do what she's gotta do, and that's to keep the gravy train running.

And that means making nice with her pervy ex.

Is she still technically Duchess of York or did she lose the duchess title in the divorce and people merely call her that for simplicity and clickbait.

The Duchess of Pork looks rough...

She’s no longer “HRH The Duchess of York”. Since her divorce she has been “Sarah, Duchess of York” which denotes that she is the former wife of the Duke of York.

Wow she looks a fright! Looks older than Cameltoe!

She knows Andrew best.

Grift if you get my drift

Coronation chicken? That’s so last century. It’s quiche this time.

What antidessicant agent is her face made of? If she were to turn her gaze to a large body of water it might dry up instantly.

She makes my skin itch just to look at her.

Hair in an updo, much less mascara and a bit of green in her clothes would be my recommendation.

The headband just makes her look like she’s playing at wearing a tiara.

[Quote]"He's a very good grandfather," she added

He's always been good with the young'uns.

Actually I think Vadge's recent pics are the worst ever. She doesn't look human.

He’s young at heart.

Why isn’t she Sarah, former Duchess of York?

In addition to Epstein, Andrew was also friends with sexual predator Peter Nygard

I had to go google her age, 63. She looks, awful (i am guessing lots of it is due to sun damage). She and Madonna, same age, are extremes. A little nip and tuck wouldn’t go amiss here.

Because R24, as I said upthread, “Sarah, Duchess of York” denotes that she is the former wife if the Duke of York. She was never a Duchess in her own right, only having the courtesy title of “Duchess of York” through her marriage, so she couldn’t be the former Duchess.

Wasn't she (or maybe is she still?) a smoker?

Blah, blah,fucking b!ah. Useless ass people.

R27, my point being it makes no sense. How does Sarah, Duchess of York denote she’s divorced? It doesn’t remotely indicate that. Grammatically it says she’s a Duchess who’s from York.

Eh, these BRF titles are stupid anyway.

If I were that family or ex wife, I'd keep my mouth shut about it. Nothing said will change anyone's mind. Same with Andrew if he were smart, just fade away quietly.

Oh yes, he's suffered so much, certainly as much as a veteran who's lost a limb. GMAB He should be in jail, not living in a huge palace, where the biggest indignity he has to suffer is not to be allowed to wear his dress uniform at state functions. Twat.

Why did they even get divorced? She got married to someone who she knew would have a busy life and be away from home a lot of the time. Then she gets divorced, supposedly b/c Andrew was away from home too much. Was that the real reason?

Supposedly, Andrew is mean and disrespectful to her - in front of other people. Called her a cow.

I'm guessing she smokes, hence the desiccated and heavily-lined skin on her face and neck.

If Andrew remarried what would his wife’s title be?

Duchess of York, I guess. At that point, maybe Sarah just goes back to "Sarah Ferguson." Someone with more knowledge can weigh in.

The best thing that ever happened to Sarah's reputation and standing is Meghan Markle.

R30 your point being that you are a typical American lecturing others on a topic about which you know nothing.

I suggest that contact Garter King of Arms and the Lord Chamberlain, who, along with their predecessors, have been responsible for maintaining titles and styles in the British Monarchy and Aristocracy for over 500 years and tell them that they have gotten it wrong and that you know better.

I’m sure that they’d just love to get your valuable input!

R30 “Eh, these BRF titles are stupid anyway”.

So insightful!

R35 in that case his new wife would be “HRH The Duchess of York”, while his ex would remain “Sarah, Duchess of York”, which is why ex wives are styled as such.

Oh, and to confuse posters such as R30.

Tbf, something tells me she is right. A man detested by William and Charles but loved by Anne, the Queen and the late Princess Diana is someone I don't think is that horrible ( well aside from the Jeffrey Weinsten thing, allegedly)

[quote] Wasn't rape rape, [R8].

Whoopi would say that because the girls were sex slaves and we all know how Whoopi feels about slavery.

[quote] horrible ( well aside from the Jeffrey Weinsten thing, allegedly)

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

She strikes me as a bit of a control freak.

[quote] Whoopi WOULDN’T say that because the girls were sex slaves and we all know how Whoopi feels about slavery.

Yes r37, calling a woman a duchess, although she isn’t anymore, makes perfect sense. As I said, titles are stupid. Just because people have been doing it for 500 years doesn’t make it less stupid.

And don’t get me started on “princess of the blood.”

I’ll try once again then am giving up. To dumb it down:

Until relatively recently in many Western countries, most women took the name of the man who they married. Thus, Jane Brown, on marrying John Smith would become Jane Smith (formally, “Mrs John Smith”). If they were to divorce, Jane would become “Mrs Jane Smith” and if John were to remarry to Jane’s friend Sharon, Sharon would formally be known as “Mrs John Smith”. If John were to die while still married to Jane she would formally be known as “Mrs Jane Smith”.

There could only ever be one “Mrs John Smith” hence ex-wives and widows revert to using their first name to delineate from any new wife.

It’s no different to Dukes, Earls, Marquesses and even Princes (refer to “Diana, Princess of Wales”. Please don’t ask why she wasn’t called “Princess Diana”!

Thanks r46, for the explanation. That’s what I was looking for. And you didn’t simply say, “stupid you for not understanding,” and then not explain a thing in your post, like some others.

Titles are still stupid.

R40 The Weinstein thing, the cash for access to Andrew thing, the affair with Steve Wyatt when she was photographed with him sucking her toes (before her divorce - he was her “financial advisor”), the John Bryan thing where she was pictured topless and pregnant kissing Bryan while toddler Princess Beatrice looked on etc etc.

Yep, Fergie was a total asset to the Monarchy!

By the way I’ve never seen any evidence that Fergie is “loved”by Princess Anne, of all people! Where did you get that from?

R47 I didn’t say “stupid you” - I know that because I’m also R27 and R37.

R48, read my post carefully..I am referring to Andrew not Fergie

Actually you sort of did r49, in your post at r37. Whatever. It’s hard to keep track of who posts what.

r35, here's the answer to your question:

[quote] The College of Arms, acting on an opinion of the Lord Chancellor, holds that divorced peeresses "cannot claim the privileges or status of Peeresses which they derived from their husbands". While a divorced former wife of a peer is no longer a peeress, she may still use the title, styled with her forename prefixed to the title (without the definite article, the). Her forename is used primarily to differentiate her from any new wife of her former husband.

So, if Prince Andrew were to marry again, his new wife would be styled "HRH the Duchess of York," but Sarah would then be styled as "Sarah, Duchess of York."

I am sure the mere presence of Andrew for a brief visit with those amputees will provide the lasting comfort they need. Oh, stop the noblesse oblige trip, Fergie. Just suggest to Andrew that he truly get out if the spotlight by leaving his huge mansion and the jet set life, get a small cottage and spend the rest of his life in quiet, sincere volunteer work. You too.

That story really put me off - about Andrew's stuffed animals in particular arrangement on his bed. He sounds like a horrible person, aside from all his time with Epstein and Giuffre. He was attractive when young. He looks awful now and I think his stank personality now shows on his face.

[quote] Thus, Jane Brown, on marrying John Smith would become Jane Smith (formally, “Mrs John Smith”). If they were to divorce, Jane would become “Mrs Jane Smith”

A divorced woman goes by her maiden name and married name. Your example would be addressed as Mrs Jane Brown Smith.

Sarah, Duchess of York...my favorite member of the royal family. And yes, she is still a member even though she is divorced from Andrew. She is still the mother of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who are full-fledged members of the BRF.

Sarah and Andrew should get remarried. Sarah needs to make a him respectable--or at least make an attempt to rehabilitate him if possible. If Charles and Camilla can be somewhat rehabilitated, maybe there's a chance for Andrew.

^^And Charles and Camilla were despicable plotting against, abusing and cheating on Diana throughout her marriage and even before it began. C&C were rotten to the core. They are somewhat respectable now that they are 75 years old. That was not the case 30-40 years ago.

I would hate being a ginger knowing the only way I could keep from wrinkling like a prune is to only go out at night and having to sleep in a coffin during the day.

R56 by your logic is Mark Phillips still a member of the British Royal Family? After all, despite his chaotic love life after divorcing Princess Anne he has been completely discreet when he could have cashed in. Nobody would ever call poor drunk Fergie “discreet”! Then there’s the cash for access scandal etc.

Fergie may once have been a member of the Queen’s family but she ceased being a member of the Royal Family in 1996.

The Duchess of York is part of the extended royal family.

It's her chosen family.

No, R60, except in her own head, she’s not “The Duchess of York” and hasn’t been since 1996 - the Royal Family and the Queen’s family are not one and the same.

How about this:

“Sad drunk and borderline bankrupt Sarah, Duchess of York (ex wife of dodgy Prince Andrew) was occasionally included in family gatherings when the Duke of Edinburgh wasn’t there, only to keep her mouth shut given that she knew way too much to set free”.

Oh yes, poor Andrew. He needs to heal because of his disorder of not being able to sweat. The poor thing just wants to have Pizza and fuck under age kids. Fergie, just write your kids books and shut up.

Sarah is making money on her own. She has now written two best-selling novels in the past two years, and she has a contract for 22 children's books.

Sorry Fergs, Andrew needs to develop some humility first. Word is he's still the same entitled piece of shyte he's always been. If he hasn't figured out by now that he's used goods and needs to just do as the King suggested and go off and live life as a normal person then he's never going to be any different. A listed mansion (Frogmoor Cottage) is not good enough for him. He needs a 30 room estate to make himself feel whole, even after all his troubles. Fuck him. The King needs to have a moving company go over there unannouced and haul his (and yours too) uppity ass out of Royal Lodge and carted off to Frogmoor, whether he likes it or not.

[quote] Sarah Ferguson Shares Her Thoughts on What Princess Diana Would Have Thought of Prince William and Prince Harry’s Ongoing Feud

Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle were sisters-in-law but not close friends—hey, not every sister-in-law pairing is, and that’s okay—but the same cannot be said for Princess Diana and Sarah Ferguson. Diana, married to the then Prince Charles, and Fergie, married to Prince Andrew, were friends long before life found them both as the wives of Windsor. On Thursday’s episode of Good Morning Britain (and per OK), Fergie weighed in on what Diana might have thought of the ongoing feud between Diana’s sons Prince William and Prince Harry, which has raged on for years.

“She was all about being true to her heart, and her heart would say, ‘My boys have done really well, they look so happy in their own family units, and they have beautiful children,’” she said. “And that is what she’d look at. She’d look at altitude and, I don’t know, she’s not here to speak for herself, but from me, if I’m here talking to you, I would say that we should have much more kindness in life,” personally condemning William and Harry for their tense relationship, OK reports.

“I think all of us need to stop being so cruel and trolling on the internet and social media,” Ferguson said. “And I think that we need to really lead by example—why don’t you just smile and be kind?”

The hosts asked if Ferguson is attending King Charles’ Coronation on May 6 at Westminster Abbey in London, and she responded “No, I’m not, because it’s a state occasion and being divorced, you can’t have it both ways.” (She and Andrew divorced in 1996, the same year Charles and Diana’s marriage officially ended.)

The hosts pressed “You don’t mind, you don’t feel sorry? You have grown up with them and you’re very close to Charles.” She responded “Just because I’m not there on the state occasion, in private I can be there, and that’s a lovely feeling to be part of the family. It really is. As I said, you can’t have it both ways. You mustn’t sit on the fence—you’re either in or out, but don’t muck around.”

Despite not being there for the May 6 ceremony, Ferguson has been invited as a VIP guest to the Coronation concert, to be held the next day, May 7, at Windsor Castle. The concert will feature performances by Katy Perry, Lionel Richie, Andrea Bocelli, Take That, and more.