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Verlaine and Rimbaud - a torrid and tumultuous gay love affair

Verlaine was 27 and married to a 17 year old girl with whom he had a child.

A turn-of-the-century Parisian poet.

After a couple of years, he left her for 17 year old Rimbaud.

Their relationship lasted only a few years, before Verlaine ended up shooting Rimbaud in the hand, getting arrested for it, and then spending two years in jail.

Verlaine died at 51 of drug and alcohol addiction.

Rimbaud died at 37 of cancer, after a career in Africa, as one of Europe's first coffee importers.

Their love affair is a fascinating story for the ages.

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by Anonymousreply 113April 21, 2023 9:16 AM

Rimbaud was a beautiful twink.

So much better looking than Verlaine.

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by Anonymousreply 1April 10, 2023 4:51 AM

23 year old Verlaine wasn't that bad looking.

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by Anonymousreply 2April 10, 2023 4:52 AM

[quote] Verlaine returned to Paris in August 1871, and, in September, received the first letter from Arthur Rimbaud, who admired his poetry. Verlaine urged Rimbaud to come to Paris, and by 1872, he had lost interest in Mathilde, and effectively abandoned her and their son, preferring the company of Rimbaud, who was by now his lover.

[quote] Rimbaud and Verlaine's stormy affair took them to London in 1872. In Brussels in July 1873, in a drunken, jealous rage, he fired two shots with a pistol at Rimbaud, wounding his left wrist, though not seriously injuring the poet. As an indirect result of this incident, Verlaine was arrested and imprisoned at Mons, where he underwent a re-conversion to Roman Catholicism, which again influenced his work and provoked Rimbaud's sharp criticism.

by Anonymousreply 3April 10, 2023 4:55 AM

[quote] A friend of Rimbaud advised him to write to Paul Verlaine, a rising poet (and future leader of the Symbolist movement) who had published two well regarded collections.

[quote] Rimbaud sent Verlaine two letters with several of his poems, including the hypnotic, finally shocking "Le Dormeur du Val" ("The Sleeper in the Valley"), in which Nature is called upon to comfort an apparently sleeping soldier. Verlaine was intrigued by Rimbaud, and replied, "Come, dear great soul. We await you; we desire you", sending him a one-way ticket to Paris.

[quote] Rimbaud arrived in late September 1871 and resided briefly in Verlaine's home. Verlaine's wife, Mathilde Mauté, was seventeen years old and pregnant, and Verlaine had recently left his job and started drinking. In later published recollections of his first sight of Rimbaud at the age of sixteen, Verlaine described him as having "the real head of a child, chubby and fresh, on a big, bony, rather clumsy body of a still-growing adolescent", with a "very strong Ardennes accent that was almost a dialect". His voice had "highs and lows as if it were breaking".

[quote] Rimbaud and Verlaine soon began a brief and torrid affair. They led a wild, vagabond-like life spiced by absinthe, opium, and hashish. The Parisian literary coterie was scandalized by Rimbaud, whose behaviour was that of the archetypal enfant terrible.

[quote] Verlaine returned to France in 1877 and, while teaching English at a school in Rethel, fell in love with one of his pupils, Lucien Létinois, who inspired Verlaine to write further poems. Verlaine was devastated when Létinois died of typhus in 1883.

Verlaine sure liked them young.

Must have been all those drugs and alcohol.

by Anonymousreply 4April 10, 2023 5:01 AM

Dramatized in the Leo DiCaprio movie Total Eclipse

by Anonymousreply 5April 10, 2023 5:11 AM

You may find this thread about their potential reinterment in the Pantheon of interest.

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by Anonymousreply 6April 10, 2023 5:17 AM

Is that right, R5??

I'm going to have to watch that movie.

by Anonymousreply 7April 10, 2023 5:18 AM

Yes, R7. It is.

by Anonymousreply 8April 10, 2023 5:22 AM

I saw the movie about 20 years ago. I can't remember a ton about it but I remember liking it at the time. Leo was just a twink back then.

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by Anonymousreply 9April 10, 2023 5:37 AM
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by Anonymousreply 10April 10, 2023 10:16 AM

Both actors presented dongs in the movie. But David Thewlis's massive unmutilated dong won by about 5 inches!

by Anonymousreply 11April 10, 2023 10:23 AM

Their relationship and their milieu is so remote from ours that it's hard for us to appreciate the context of it.

by Anonymousreply 12April 10, 2023 11:02 AM

[quote] Their relationship and their milieu is so remote from ours that it's hard for us to appreciate the context of it.

To what context are you referring? The age difference?

Or something else?

by Anonymousreply 13April 10, 2023 11:10 AM

Yuck.

Thewlis and Leo.

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by Anonymousreply 14April 10, 2023 11:27 AM

Leo cumming in Thewlis.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 10, 2023 11:28 AM

Sounds like a beautiful story.

by Anonymousreply 16April 10, 2023 11:38 AM

I think what r12 means is that world was entirely different from our own - it's hard to interpret what two gay men's understanding of the world and their behavior was before our idea of "gay" was even a thing.

by Anonymousreply 17April 10, 2023 11:44 AM

I remember seeing Total Eclipse. It was like an interesting art film with Hollywood production values. If you didn't already have some understanding of who Verlaine and Rimbaud were, then you were completely lost as to what the point of the movie was. None of the characters were likable.

by Anonymousreply 18April 10, 2023 12:03 PM

Both wonderful poets. Rimbaud completely quit writing too early though.

by Anonymousreply 19April 10, 2023 12:07 PM

In Bob Dylan's 1975 album Blood on the Tracks, "You're Gonna Make me Lonesome When you Go" contains the following lyrics:

Situations have ended sad, Relationships have all been bad. Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud. But there's no way I can compare, All those scenes to this affair, Yer gonna make me lonesome when you go...

Was Bob Dylan hinting that he had a gay affair?

by Anonymousreply 20April 10, 2023 12:16 PM

R20 yes

by Anonymousreply 21April 10, 2023 12:18 PM

R17 How rude to think you'd clarify what someone else says - not your place

by Anonymousreply 22April 10, 2023 1:17 PM

R22 Maybe let R12 speak for himself about whether he thinks it was rude or not? Not your place to comment either.

by Anonymousreply 23April 10, 2023 1:21 PM

Verlaine was a chickenhawk

by Anonymousreply 24April 10, 2023 4:43 PM

Girls, girls, you’re both turn-of-the century cunts with no understanding of deodorant and it’s usefulness

by Anonymousreply 25April 10, 2023 5:28 PM

[quote] both turn-of-the century cunts with no understanding of deodorant and it’s usefulness

Funny you mention this. From his Wiki page,

[quote] In May 1871, aged 16, Rimbaud wrote two letters explaining his poetic philosophy, commonly called the Lettres du voyant ("Letters of the Seer"). In the first, written 13 May to Izambard, Rimbaud explained:

[quote] I'm now making myself as scummy as I can. Why? I want to be a poet, and I'm working at turning myself into a seer. You won't understand any of this, and I'm almost incapable of explaining it to you. The idea is to reach the unknown by the derangement of all the senses. It involves enormous suffering, but one must be strong and be a born poet. It's really not my fault.

by Anonymousreply 26April 10, 2023 5:46 PM

[quote] it’s usefulness

by Anonymousreply 27April 10, 2023 6:07 PM

R27 That was an Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 28April 10, 2023 9:31 PM

[quote] a torrid and tumultuous gay love affair

It seems there was another version of this affair made 50 years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 29April 11, 2023 6:44 AM

R1 That picture of Rimbaud makes him look like an unkempt, thin-lipped teenage French brat like Romane Bohringer.

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by Anonymousreply 30April 11, 2023 7:00 AM

Both were smelly no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 31April 11, 2023 7:31 AM

I see a new QUEER film version of this as cinematic essentialism. There can be no cinema when we’re denied Sam Brinton as Verlaine and Ellen Page as Rimbaud. Make it so, queer artistes. The queer space demands it. Trans rights depends on it.

by Anonymousreply 32April 11, 2023 7:53 AM

Leo's brief full frontal in the movie:

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by Anonymousreply 33April 11, 2023 7:55 AM

^ How unappetising!

Equally as unappetising as Mr Thewlis.

by Anonymousreply 34April 11, 2023 8:02 AM

I thought they were more hi-falootin than this.

by Anonymousreply 35April 11, 2023 8:18 AM

Rimbaud hasn't written all that much. It all fits in one volume. I highly recommend devoting the time to read his poems - there are excellent translations. If you are even a little into Verlaine's poems, you will understand what Verlaine admired about. Rimbaud. (And it wasn't just his exterior.)

by Anonymousreply 36April 11, 2023 8:19 AM

[quote] I highly recommend devoting the time to read his poems

Which ones?

by Anonymousreply 37April 11, 2023 8:27 AM

R15, is it known that Rimbaud was the top?

by Anonymousreply 38April 11, 2023 8:31 AM

Two sick Young fruits. Drastic Pursuits.

Big thick Black boots, Paul's trick Just suits.

"Don't kick, Just lick." Disputes.

"Some prick." "Come quick!" He shoots.

by Anonymousreply 39April 11, 2023 8:38 AM

Two sick Young fruits. Drastic Pursuits.

Big thick Black boots, Paul's trick Just suits.

"Don't kick, Just lick." Disputes.

"Some prick." "Come quick!" He shoots.

by Anonymousreply 40April 11, 2023 8:42 AM

Oh bloody hell, I give up. Damn you DL!

In any case, if anyone is interested, here is an excellent translation of his works. Poems start at page 40.

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by Anonymousreply 41April 11, 2023 8:44 AM

Th only Rimbaud I have read are in the subtitles of this video.

I am more interested in the sweet and sour sounds and the manic rhythms.

The Rimbaud poems seem to be celebrating obsessed sick behaviour.

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by Anonymousreply 42April 11, 2023 8:57 AM

[quote]The Rimbaud poems seem to be celebrating obsessed sick behaviour.

Obviously he was the original DLer.

by Anonymousreply 43April 11, 2023 9:02 AM

Verlaine and Rimbaud are part of the group in a painting by French artist, Henri Fantin-Latour, known as "The Corner of the Table" (1872). Verlaine is seated far left with Rimbaud next to him. There's a funny story as to why there's a vase of flowers on the table (far right).

From wiki:

[quote] This group portrait therefore presents the poets that attended the dinners held at the Vilains Bonshommes, which Edmond Maître had presented to Fantin-Latour. Absent is Albert Mérat, who refused to pose with Rimbaud after an incident that occurred during the dinner of March 2, 1872, when the young poet allegedly interrupted a reading of Jean Aicard and forced the poets to take him out by force.

[quote] The group is depicted at the end of a meal, around a table. The painting shows, seated, from left to right, Paul Verlaine, Arthur Rimbaud, Léon Valade, Ernest d'Hervilly, and Camille Pelletan. Standing, from left to right, there are Pierre Elzéar, Émile Blémont, and Jean Aicard. A vase with flowers, in the foreground, at the right, stands for the absent poet, Albert Mérat.

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by Anonymousreply 44April 11, 2023 9:11 AM

Rimbaud is mandatory reading for gay men, in my opinion. Everytime I read his work I feel like I'm losing my virginity again. It's like a raw, tender steak that's slicing itself up.

by Anonymousreply 45April 11, 2023 9:16 AM

But Rimbaud was an abuser, wasn't he?

He was using Verlaine for his own purposes.

by Anonymousreply 46April 11, 2023 9:26 AM

Rimbaud started his life as a poet and ended it as an arms dealer and I can't think of anything more French.

by Anonymousreply 47April 11, 2023 9:29 AM

Poets are such messy fags.

They’d be better off with fat frau hags.

At least then they’d have someone to carry their bags.

by Anonymousreply 48April 11, 2023 9:30 AM

^Best sentence I've read all week.

by Anonymousreply 49April 11, 2023 9:32 AM

Why, oh why couldn't Verlaine and Rimbaud look like Ceci et Cela?

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by Anonymousreply 50April 11, 2023 9:34 AM

[quote] Leo's brief full frontal in the movie:

That's a cocktail weiner at R33. What does Lukas Haas do with it?

[quote] R1 That picture of Rimbaud makes him look like an unkempt, thin-lipped teenage French brat

Rimbaud's Wiki says that his behavior was the archetypal French "enfant terrible."

[quote] Both were smelly no doubt.

No doubt.

A) They're French. B) They purposely didn't bathe, as part of their nonconformist attitude. C) It was the late 1800's. No one really bathed.

by Anonymousreply 51April 11, 2023 10:02 AM

R14 that’s the only screen kiss I’ve ever seen Leo really put his whole pussy into.

by Anonymousreply 52April 11, 2023 10:21 AM

We've always said that Leo has more chemistry with men, than with women R52.

by Anonymousreply 53April 11, 2023 3:30 PM

Love Rimbaud. Love him. I wish young gays were still obsessed with him and Oscar Wilde instead of drag race and the housewives shows.

by Anonymousreply 54April 11, 2023 3:40 PM

R32, you never pass up a chance to pick on trans people, do you?

by Anonymousreply 55April 11, 2023 6:22 PM

R54, as if middle-aged gays are obsessed with Rimbaud, most probably have no idea who he was

by Anonymousreply 56April 11, 2023 6:23 PM

Patti Smith is so in entranced with and heavily influenced by Rimbaud that she bought his reconstructed childhood home. One can find references to him in several of her songs.

[quote] In a 1996 interview with Brooklyn-based BOMB Magazine, Smith stated: "I devoted so much of my girlish daydreams to Rimbaud. Rimbaud was like my boyfriend."

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by Anonymousreply 57April 11, 2023 6:26 PM

[quote] Dramatized in the Leo DiCaprio movie Total Eclipse

1. Total Eclipse of what?

2. Leonardo de Caprio was a teenager so this movie with the inexplicable title celebrated pedophilia. And--

3.. David Thewlis was the right actor to play this unappealing man in a miserable story about two mismatched lovers. Thewlis previous movie was the miseravbe—

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by Anonymousreply 58April 11, 2023 10:57 PM

Rimbaud's house

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by Anonymousreply 59April 11, 2023 11:16 PM

I'd just kill for a tour. I imagine Patti would have been in for years of restoration work as the place was in a bit of a shambles for quite a long time.

by Anonymousreply 60April 11, 2023 11:22 PM

R59 Smith was obliged to install security bars on the French doors.

by Anonymousreply 61April 11, 2023 11:26 PM

" It was the late 1800's. No one really bathed."

Not true. They didn't have showers but people were clean, those who had running hot water used bathtubs, and those who didn't would scrub themselves down with a pitcher of water and some sort of basin. Only the very poor, or poets with stank fetishes, were really filthy.

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by Anonymousreply 62April 11, 2023 11:56 PM

Rimbaud in uniform (top right).

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by Anonymousreply 63April 12, 2023 12:51 AM

Rimbaud vs. Leo DiCaprio

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by Anonymousreply 64April 12, 2023 12:52 AM

Verlaine and Rimbaud look like a couple of California gold miners.

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by Anonymousreply 65April 12, 2023 12:57 AM

^ Maybe.

But Verlaine didn't know what a shovel was for. An Rimbaud was too puny to pick one up.

by Anonymousreply 66April 12, 2023 1:00 AM

[quote] Total Eclipse

A total solar eclipse happens when the Moon completely covers the face of the Sun.

How is that relevant to Verlaine and Rimbaud?

by Anonymousreply 67April 12, 2023 1:02 AM

RIMbaud?? Haha

by Anonymousreply 68April 12, 2023 1:18 AM

R68 It's actually pronounced like Rambo. Even hotter.

by Anonymousreply 69April 12, 2023 1:46 AM

R67 The movie title talks about the Moon covering the face of the Sun as an allusion to one skinny Frenchman's penis covering the anus of another skinny Frenchman.

Perhaps.

by Anonymousreply 70April 12, 2023 2:37 AM

I hope the OP will enlighten us to the meaning of the title of the Leonardo de Caprio movie.

by Anonymousreply 71April 12, 2023 2:50 AM
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by Anonymousreply 72April 12, 2023 2:54 AM

[quote] 1. Total Eclipse of what?

Total Eclipse of the Heart, Rose. It was a film about Bonnie Tyler, but somehow Rimbaud and Verlaine were time-traveling characters in it.

by Anonymousreply 73April 12, 2023 3:01 AM

I imagine "total eclipse" symbolizes the lovers Rimbaud and Verlaine, so utterly consumed by their dark romance (and it was—toxic, sadomasochistic, passionate to near death) that it ate up all light, clarity, and reason. It was the kind of love that you just know is going to end in blood but is so stirring that you're willing to risk it. A divine amour fou.

by Anonymousreply 74April 12, 2023 3:26 AM

[quote] I hope the OP will enlighten us to the meaning of the title of the Leonardo de Caprio movie.

R71, why would OP do so? OP did not mention that movie in the post. Perhaps OP did not even know the existence of said movie and has been enlightened heretofore.

As an aside, Total Eclipse (the film) was directed by famed director Agnieszka Holland, whom I suspect may be a lesbian. Hence her apathy toward showing DiCaprio's tiny cock or at the very least allowing him to fluff it a bit.

by Anonymousreply 75April 12, 2023 4:22 AM

I think Sylvester Stallone gave the best portrayal of Rimbaud in a movie.

by Anonymousreply 76April 12, 2023 4:23 AM

I've always thought Patti Smith's love of Rimbaud was cute and endearing. She must have known Mapplethorpe was gay then, she wanted her own gay boyfriend from the start.

by Anonymousreply 77April 12, 2023 4:25 AM

Oh, R75, your post increases my disinclination to see this movie.

by Anonymousreply 78April 12, 2023 4:30 AM

[quote] Is it known that Rimbaud was the top?

R38 Details about Verlaine's arrest indicate the following:

[quote] Verlaine was arrested as he pursued Rimbaud to the railway station. When police searched both men, they found letters written to each other and Verlaine was subjected to a humiliating body search by a police doctor who wrote: “P. Verlaine bears on his person traces of habitual pederasty, both active and passive.”

by Anonymousreply 79April 12, 2023 5:37 AM

Why isn’t there a movie based on this story? Instead we get drivel like Bros

by Anonymousreply 80April 12, 2023 5:50 AM

[quote] Why isn’t there a movie based on this story?

I guess that's why people are referencing Total Eclipse. Because it's supposed to be based on Verlaine and Rimbaud.

Hollywood had to "dumb it down" for the masses.

However, I'd love to see a movie specifically about them, R80. Just as you mentioned.

I think the story would be compelling enough, even for modern audiences.

by Anonymousreply 81April 12, 2023 5:53 AM

There is a movie. Read the posts upthread.

by Anonymousreply 82April 12, 2023 5:54 AM

And this is what the police report had to say about Rimbaud:

[quote] “In morality and talent, this Raimbaud (sic), aged between 15 and 16, was and is a monster. He can construct poems like nobody else, but his works are completely incomprehensible and repulsive.”

by Anonymousreply 83April 12, 2023 5:58 AM

^ "We do not care for this fag. C'est affreux!"

by Anonymousreply 84April 12, 2023 6:07 AM

They wrote the lovely Sonnet of the Arsehole – various translations at the link.

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by Anonymousreply 85April 12, 2023 6:17 AM

I love David Wojnarowicz’s Rimbaud in New York series where he or sometimes a friend wear a mask of him and pose all over the city. There’s one with masturbation and him having a very large cock.

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by Anonymousreply 86April 12, 2023 6:20 AM

There's a book about Rimbaud in Africa. Such a strange, strange life, and the attempt to reinvent himself even more so.

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by Anonymousreply 87April 12, 2023 6:22 AM

It's fascinating how so many gay and bisexual figures ended up in 'Heart of Darkness' Africa. Henry Morton Stanley and Arthur Jephson. Roger Casement. John Stuart-Young (remember that great book of about ten years ago The Forger's Tale?) Frank Shackleton who stole the Irish Crown Jewels. Then all those who visited northern Africa for the boys, like Oscar Wilde, Andre Gide. Lot about it in that book on Lord Battersea that came out last year.

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by Anonymousreply 88April 12, 2023 6:50 AM

There also all those 60s & 70s gay haute bohemian books where everyone ends in Marrakesh and Tangier. There's a long traceable line, including Pierre Berge & YSL. There's another interesting book, Arabesques, which traces Gide in North Africa on his boy questing. It's a coffee table book with pretty travel pics!! Sorry for sidetracking the thread, but Rimbaud in Africa is such a mindfuck, but at the same time, not out of place.

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by Anonymousreply 89April 12, 2023 7:09 AM

R17 for example The Stolen Heart (there are various translations online, all different. This one is relatively close to the original).

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by Anonymousreply 90April 12, 2023 8:37 AM

And I meant R37, not R17! Anyway, see link at R90.

by Anonymousreply 91April 12, 2023 8:39 AM

[quote] Poets are such messy fags.

They’d be better off with fat frau hags.

At least then they’d have someone to carry their bags. [/quote]

R48 = resident poet

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by Anonymousreply 92April 12, 2023 9:24 AM

[quote]It's fascinating how so many gay and bisexual figures ended up in 'Heart of Darkness' Africa.

The ever loving pursuit of bbc.

by Anonymousreply 93April 12, 2023 10:28 AM

[quote] Then all those who visited northern Africa for the boys, like Oscar Wilde, Andre Gide.

I haven't heard of Wilde in Africa.

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by Anonymousreply 94April 12, 2023 11:22 AM

It was Wilde who introduced Gide to boys in Algeria, FFS. Know your gay history!

Rimbaud's childhood home is a museum. Unfortunately it's in Charleville-Mézières, in the Ardennes.

It's got a fancy dancy website, but being French, doesn't work on some browsers.

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by Anonymousreply 95April 12, 2023 3:54 PM

[quote] 2. Leonardo de Caprio was a teenager so this movie with the inexplicable title celebrated pedophilia. And--

R58 DiCaprio (b. 1974) was going on 21 when "Total Eclipse" was produced (1995).

by Anonymousreply 96April 12, 2023 9:27 PM

^ But he looked 9 years old.

by Anonymousreply 97April 12, 2023 11:00 PM

R97 He looked 9 years old until he was in his mid-30's.

by Anonymousreply 98April 12, 2023 11:10 PM

Arthur Rimbaud Against The Butchering of French Poetry.

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by Anonymousreply 99April 13, 2023 12:47 AM

[quote] Their love affair is a fascinating story for the ages.

OP, you have failed to convince us.

by Anonymousreply 100April 13, 2023 12:57 AM

This version is much more attractive

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by Anonymousreply 101April 13, 2023 1:27 AM

Jean-Claude Brialy is prettier than David Thewlis.

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by Anonymousreply 102April 13, 2023 1:36 AM

[quote] None of the characters were likable.

R18 That's basically the conclusion of the Siskel & Ebert review, and could be the problem with any honest film depicting these two men and their relationship, because really, they don't seem to be very likable. Gay viewers are probably willing to invest their time in watching a film about two "awful homosexuals," but I think this could be a hard sell with mainstream audiences.

Maybe instead of a film, anything new would be better produced as a four-part mini-series that allows more time to invest in their poetry (as Siskel suggested).

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by Anonymousreply 103April 13, 2023 2:21 AM

[quote] four-part mini-series that allows more time to invest in their poetry

The OP hasn't given us English-speaking Dataloungers much to invest in their very-French, fragmented, spidery poetry.

by Anonymousreply 104April 13, 2023 2:25 AM

Rather interesting read about the gun Verlaine used, which sold at auction in 2016. Also recounts the events of the shooting itself.

[quote] The Belgian bailiff and firearms enthusiast Jacques Ruth, who put the gun up for sale, had kept it in a cupboard for 20 years, unaware of its value. He only thought to have it checked when he saw an identical model in Total Eclipse, the 1995 Hollywood film about the poets’ intense relationship starring Leonardo DiCaprio.

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by Anonymousreply 105April 14, 2023 7:37 AM

R58 The OP hasn't bothered to tell us that the words 'total eclipse' are taken from one of the poems (that none of us have read).

by Anonymousreply 106April 15, 2023 1:03 AM

[quote] Leonardo de Caprio was a teenager so this movie with the inexplicable title celebrated pedophilia.

Please take your neurotic obsession elsewhere.

One wonders what kind of thoughts really go through the heads of these faux moralists.

by Anonymousreply 107April 15, 2023 1:42 AM

[quote] faux

R107 Are you suggesting that people who abhor pedophilia are fake?

by Anonymousreply 108April 15, 2023 1:47 AM

I'm not R107, but I'm pretty sure that he/she is suggesting that you're a colossal bore R108.

And we don't want to hear it.

by Anonymousreply 109April 15, 2023 1:51 AM

[quote] a colossal bore

Monsieurs Verlaine et Rimbaud are rather boring.

by Anonymousreply 110April 15, 2023 1:53 AM

Ta frau, but given you just heard of them, best piss off back to whichever pedo conspiracy site you haunt.

by Anonymousreply 111April 15, 2023 2:45 PM

How did people get clean "back there" in those days?

by Anonymousreply 112April 16, 2023 8:37 PM

R42 That version has the libretto but this version is much stronger.

The characters sound suitably obsessed and mad.

And the string orchestra is vivid and fast!

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by Anonymousreply 113April 21, 2023 9:16 AM
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