Michael Jackson's Corpse: Dead Eunuch Body Exposed?

Disturbingly, his wavy, shoulder-length hair was found to be a wig that had been glued onto his head.

So where's the Vitiligo? All I see is a high yellow Nigra.

He's giving Roswell

He’s gross looking

He ate a macropsycotic diet which is low in calories in protein. He danced and performed a lot, so he was skinny. Eunuchs don't have testicles. The pic in the OP doesn't show us that. And he has chest hair.

But don't "chemically castrated" eunuchs have testicles?

hung like a horse.

Police told of the scars and lack of hair on his body, but added: “This isn’t a man who should have died."

Young Michael Jackson was actually cute. Too bad he turned into that

Also, what the hell was he eating, when his chef says this: "Niall says that Jackson had a “fairly limited diet” and was “a vegetarian who didn't like vegetables.” “He liked pizza, but he didn't like pasta,” he continues. Another difficult workaround: He had a major sweet tooth, but he didn't eat sugar and didn't like chocolate"

--A vegetarian who didn't like vegetables?

--A sweet tooth that didn't like sugar or chocolate???

Turned himself into that

This happened all because his family forced him to sever ties with the one true love of his life...ME!

OP, do you think his high voice was real? That was his child-luring voice. After he stopped dating kids, he started using his normal voice in public. If he was castrated before or during puberty, he wouldn’t have a normal male voice.

Autopsy said he was 69" (5' 7") and 136 lbs. I still can't figure how he got his whole body a dusky pinkish color. It wasn't Porcelana*; it must been something very expensive and experimental. And it must be the reason he couldn't be in the sunshine (parasols, hats and long sleeves).

Math is not your friend, R14.

R13 You make a good point. I hadn't thought about the voice changes. His body does appear to have never gone through puberty, though.

He was uncut.

Dear lord! Those poor kids.

I know, right? Imagine seeing that standing at the foot of your bed during a bout of sleep paralysis.

The Vitiligo was real, I have no doubt. There are pictures of him in the early 80s with what look like patches of it, covered somewhat by makeup. However, what wasn't real about it was his story. He claimed to Oprah in '93 that the reason for his color change was Vitiligo. In fact, it was because he bleached the rest of his skin to match the depigmented areas impacted by Vitiligo, which was (and basically still is) the only treatment for it, especially for dark-skinned people in areas of the world where the condition is very stigmatized. For some reason he didn't just explain it that way. Possibly because he truly didn't mind being white, and perhaps really wanted to look that way? Otherwise, he would have just walked around looking patchy, or covered the depigmented areas with heavy makeup. Probably would have been better to just be honest about what he chose to do to "treat" it, but he was obsessed with how the media criticized his strange ways and I suspect that clouded his judgement. He almost always made the worst decision when given the opportunity to help himself.

So are all Jehovah Witnesses uncut? Does R17 have some sort of receipts on his claim?

The autopsy said he was uncircumcised r21. I think most of his hair burned off during the Pepsi commercial shoot.

Is that a Winnie The Pooh pencil case on his bedside table?

the autopsy report said 1) the mattress had a disposable pad on it (usually called "chucks" in nursing homes, designed to keep urine or feces from soiling the bed and 2) there was a full urine bottle at the end of the bed or very near to the bed.

He was FIFTY YEARS OLD, NOT 7O.

Yuck.

They should be ashamed of themselves as human beings for publishing those photos.

[quote] Disturbingly, his wavy, shoulder-length hair was found to be a wig that had been glued onto his head.

That hair was obviously a wig.

It was shocking what they found on his deathbed. Who the hell sleeps with their DVD player? Gross.

The DVD player?

I could see myself falling asleep with a DVD player in my bed.

But the DOLL?

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^^ My deleted comment above was directed at R24. I was saying that MJ's maids claimed he would freely relieve himself on the floor of his mansion and former bodyguards said he would often soil himself and leave the shitty garments on the floor for his maids to pick up. Perhaps MJ was too hopped up on drugs to even bother heading to the loo.

R1 You couldn’t tell that was a wig??

NEVER understood the reverence for him. Songs are bland though I guess he had a unique vocal style.

And I thought only the Japanese had blurry genitals!

I think he was living a pretty dysfunctional life long before he died. The photos taken by the police during their 2005 raid on Neverland showed a cluttered house in total disarray, like a hoarder lived there. There was random junk everywhere. It wasn't what you think of when you think rich celebrity's home. I'm not surprised he was pissing the bed and basically living like a terminally ill person.

R34 I don't put much faith in the taste or mental health of most celebrities.

I'm frankly shocked when their homes are relatively normal.

Wow - and I thought he was so normal.

His death was a slow suicide. He made himself terminally ill.

R37 Oh, that ogre of a father had something to do with it, too. Joe Jackson was a vile man.

OK in R1’s defense that glued on wig comment was a quote from the article.

Now I need to know, are wigs typically glued on? Does that mean you don’t take it off to sleep or shower?!

There were always wild rumours that he was medicated as a child to extend the life of his pre-pubescent vocal range. That sounds like some kind of puberty blocker.

Another version of the story was that he was "affected" by hardcore anti-acne medication that did something to his development. He DID suffer very severe acne in his teens.

I wonder why he liked propofol so much? I watched a documentary that said he couldn't sleep and that drug relaxed him but it wasn't real sleep, The drug use meant he never went into REM sleep, which he needed most. That explains partly why he went insane because he wasn't really sleeping for a LONG time due to that drug.

He supported his dad but wouldn't speak to him or allow him onto his property. After Michael died his dad asked the estate to continue paying his living expenses, IIRC it was around 200k a year. I would have bought that fucker a studio apartment in Houston and given him 20k a year for expenses.

I still want to know who the actual parents are of those three kids...because Paris is NOT the child of Michael or Debbie Rowe.

The boys...who knows? Prince isn't cute while the other boy is the only one of the three who actually looks like he might be part black.

I’m having a difficult time masturbating to this story.

Oh wait never mind.

[quote]There were always wild rumours that he was medicated as a child to extend the life of his pre-pubescent vocal range. That sounds like some kind of puberty blocker.

Puberty blockers only became available in the 1980s, when they were first used for kids with precocious puberty and other hormonal conditions. MJ was already in his 20s by then.

True, formal puberty blockers are more recent. But drugs with similar effects or side effects are not.

I'm NOT saying this is true, just that it was a very widespread and widely believed rumour in the music industry in the 70s and 80s.

[quote]Puberty blockers only became available in the 1980s, when they were first used for kids with precocious puberty and other hormonal conditions. MJ was already in his 20s by then.

It could have been Depo-Provera, the birth control shot that has also been used for decades to chemically castrate sex offenders.

R47 The drug he was rumored to be injected with was cyproterone acetate, an acne treatment for girls that worked by reducing their androgens. It was illegal to prescribe it to boys because it could stunt their sexual development, including the expansion of the larynx. This is probably why the rumor spread that MJ’s father gave him injections to prevent his voice from deepening.

As it turns out, he had a normal larynx and a normal voice that he artificially made high because he was a weirdo who also starved himself and acted like a child. Aside from the malnutrition and scalp burns, it’s surprising how otherwise normal his body was, according to the medical examiner.

I always thought it was funny how Doubleday made Jackie Onassis edit and write a foreword to Moonwalk. She detested him and thought he was a whackjob when she visited him at Neverland. He thought they were friends and sought to find common ground in their shared celebrity. She thought he was gay.

King of Pop = King of Poop!

Cannot think of anything more gross or ghastly than a full wig of hair being permanently affixed by glue to someone's scalp.

Suppose when performing and other activities there was fear wig would slip off. If MJ's hair was mostly gone there wouldn't be many ways to strongly "pin down" a wig as it were.

[Quote]I wonder why he liked propofol so much?

Because it feels fabulous. I had it for an endoscopy and I came to understand its appeal.

R52 I what did you feel? I think I had it for an endoscopy too and it just knocked me the fuck out. Which can be nice occasionally but nothing like other drugs which actually make you feel high and happy.

^^ it felt like being fabulously high on opioids. And then I passed out.

I can't get over the fact that he was white when he obviously was born as a black guy. Did he bathe in bleach every couple of weeks.

explains a lot

He was absolutely insane and a danger to children, but that Pepsi advert totally ruined his appearance.

And Joe Jackson should be in jail.

He's dead. Jail would be hard.

How do you clean your scalp with a wig glued on? Is this temporary glue?!

The pad r24 describes is pretty much a puppy training pad for adults.

Don't ask me why but I'm watching that link for the "Autopsy: Last hours of Michael Jackson."

I had no idea he had lupus. No clue. Not that that's any excuse or whatever but I just didn't realize that.

[quote]The drug he was rumored to be injected with was cyproterone acetate, an acne treatment for girls that worked by reducing their androgens. It was illegal to prescribe it to boys because it could stunt their sexual development, including the expansion of the larynx.

CPA (aka Androcur) is also used to treat prostate cancer and for chemical castration outside the US (it's never been FDA-approved). It's powerful stuff and absolutely nukes testosterone production.

The doll looks like prince Michael as a baby and one of those dolls that is supposed be lifelike and are made with silicone to mimic the softness of a baby.

R61 That’s interesting, because he had vitiligo too, yet no one else in his family had it. It’s more common in people with lupus or other autoimmune disorders. Since MJ was the one who suffered the most, and was extremely stressed throughout his life, I think his body became a visual map of all the abuse he was subjected to as a child. It’s no wonder he died so young.

Agree r64, although the amount of drugs in his system and his very heavy drug use was one of the main contributors to his death (esp the Propofil which didn't allow him to get REM sleep, which alone can kill you after an extended period of time).

However, yes, he had both vitiligo and lupus, and one of the hallmarks of lupus is that extreme stress can cause what they call "flares." Lupus attacks the body itself: in the systemic lupus he had (there are other kinds), skin is often severely affected, and body organs can also be attacked, primarily the heart and kidneys. His hair loss was partially because of the lupus, but also partially because of the burns to his scalp sustained during the onstage accident when he caught fire.

Also, not really news here, but his eyebrows were tattooed (likely also a victim of the hair loss due to lupus), and he had tattooed eyeliner and pink on his lips as well. However, it was revealed that although he did have vitiligo, he did actually have skin bleaching gel regularly applied to his body to lighten his skin as well as an attempt to "even out" his skin color.

The piece at R56 was pretty shocking. The most successful recording artist in history -- yet somehow $400M in debt, incontinent, sleeping with little blond boy dolls, addicted to plastic surgery and skin whiteners, living on a diet of opiates and benzos, and finally ODing on a surgical anaesthetic adminstered by a quack doctor. Hooray for Hollywood, or something.

R59, professional wig installs usually last for a good six weeks depending on how much you sweat and whether you use waterproof adhesives. After six weeks you're supposed to remove the wig for proper cleaning of both wig and scalp.

[quote]…the amount of drugs in his system and his very heavy drug use was one of the main contributors to his death (esp the Propofil which didn't allow him to get REM sleep, which alone can kill you after an extended period of time…

I remember reading about a study of Zolpidem (Ambien) that showed that people who used it for extended periods were 5 times more likely to die young than non-users; the subjects of the study were matched to eliminate pre-existing conditions as the correlation. I wonder if this is due to Zolpidem disrupting REM sleep? Propofol is turbocharged in comparison, and it’s astounding that Conrad Murray is a free man.

R56 Thanks for the link, I watched it too. It's very sad. God.

So when hair burns off does it never grow back

According to the autopsy r70, there's a fair amount of scar tissue on his scalp so maybe it doesn't grow back on bad scar tissue? i don't know, wondering out loud. But that, coupled with his lupus which can and does cause hair loss, probably made for a double whammy for his hair/scalp.

Brings to mind that line/scene in the Emperor's New Groove movie.

[quote]So when hair burns off does it never grow back?

Not necessarily. MJ had second degree burns on his scalp, and the scarring is what damaged his hair follicles.

BTW, if your hair ever catches on fire, drop and roll, DON’T SPIN.

Omg he just kept spinning, R73!! He spun and spun.

He was so fucking gross and weird.

It's hard to remember now, but at the height of Thriller he was the coolest pop star in the world. He still looked good then, he had good surgery. Most of his fanbase knew him from what they saw on his videos on MTV. The slide began during awards season in 84 when he got on stage to accept and the general public began to see for the first time just how shockingly effeminate he was. The schoolyard decided he was gay. His newfound extreme wealth allowed him to move from the family home, and that was the point at which there was no moderating influence around him. The bizarre behaviour and obsession with young boys accelerated. The plastic surgery increased, and by 87 he started looking like a freak. He then spun out of control and imploded.

Poor Michael.

This is what happens when your big, fat heifer of a little sister eats all your food.

The photo is a grab from a video, it's washed out with poor color (in part from fluorescent lighting) and it's obviously been elongated, probably not on purpose but just as an artifact from editing.

There's no reason to say "the nipples never developed" because the photo is too washed out to tell. He's emaciated but that doesn't mean he never went through puberty, that's a ridiculous thing to say. And even with the overexposure and poor lighting, you can see discolored spots on his skin.

I think some of you need to get your glasses prescriptions updated.

LaToya has weird nipples too.

R76 He was never cool, even at the height of Thriller. Off the Wall was the closest he got.

Yeah, he looked off in 84.

I wouldn’t have walked across the street to watch him perform in concert

He loved to dangle Blanket from balconies in Europe

Was the bobble on the end of his nose a prosthesis or a mangled piece of flesh held on with tape?

Did he have a belly button? In the autopsy pictures he seems to be without one.

No he was hatched from an egg, Rose.

What a sad pathetic life, he's better off dead... :-/

He and Whitney ended up in a living hell.

Is that a Rosary on his bed, at the foot?

The doll is creepy and the mattress on the floor is just .. sad.

Was it really his voice that made the Jackson 5 songs so successful? Surely it was the actual tunes themselves, plus the factor of him being a little kid singing? If they'd been arranged and marketed differently, they could have still been a success. His brothers weren't ugly.

R90 Look at this video. He was so adorable and talented as a little kid. Tragic how he ended up.

Was he on puberty blockers, OP?

R90, as a kid he had a lot of undeniable charisma. He just naturally had an "it" factor that his brother didn't have.

R91 Awwwww that made me tear up. He was a one in a million, even as a little kid. Freaky to think he was being worked like a dog, threatened/beaten with a belt (they all were) in order to make the finished product look so smooth and effortless.

Maybe R92 I don't know but have always wondered. I was a huge fan as a kid and still enjoy his music, but now when I look at the photos of his best adult years from Thriller, I only see a beautiful light skinned black woman--not a man. He had no facial hair and had to pay to have stubble implanted and then didn't like it and removed it.

I always thought that the lupus stuff was "spin" to rationalize the erosion of his nose into nothingness. Now I'm wondering if the skin lupus was eating away at his nose, or if he did that to himself?

[Quote]He was never cool, even at the height of Thriller.

WTF? He was even cool in Europe. I remember the Thriller album blasting out from cafes as I played with my cousins on the beach in Italy. He was IT

He was one of the most deranged celebrities of all time. I get the impression he wanted to be a woman, a WHITE woman, but could never come to grips with that and transition into a female. Plus there was his obsession with children, particularly little boys. He wanted sex with little boys. Michael Jackson was a profoundly sick human being. I'm surprised he lived as long as he did.

^^ don't trust your impressions.

It's forgotten by most now, but it was strongly rumoured in the 70s that Michael was keen to have what they then called "a sex change operation", allegedly to please some male sitcom star whose name now escapes me. This was recounted in the biography that J Randy Tarraborrelli wrote. That was a well sourced and credible book.

R100. Um, WHAT?

"When I was a kid, there were definitely people that cast aspersions on Michael Jackson’s sexuality. In the late ‘70s and ‘80s, the “Michael is gay” rumors were prevalent, to the point that a rumor floated (and was published) that MJ had actually undergone a sex change operation. Allegedly, the sex change was so that he could marry Clifton Davis (who wrote the J5’s “Never Can Say Goodbye” and is probably best known as Reverend Ruben Gregory from the ‘80s sitcom Amen). Many of these people thought that the lyrics of “Human Nature” were a tacit acknowledgement of Michael’s alleged homosexuality. And if you read/listen to the lyrics in a certain way (especially “I like livin’ this way/I like lovin’ this way”), I can see how people came to this decision."

Jet magazine published that he was getting a "sex change" for Clifton Davis.

That Autopsy episode features an acceptable lookalike for the re-enactments. A lot of them are ludicrous.

Back in the early-to-mid '80s it was also strongly rumoured he wanted to look like Diana Ross. I was only a kid but that one stuck around until his skin lightened.

Clifton was hot, I see why Michael considered a vaginoplasty.

R106, Yes!

[quote] Now I'm wondering if the skin lupus was eating away at his nose, or if he did that to himself?

MJ had multiple rhinoplasties. Lorry Hill, who has had maybe 3 nose jobs, experienced necrosis (death of tissue). I think MJ was just losing tissue due to all of the nose jobs. At the end, it looks like he had a badly-adhered prosthesis on his nose area.

r5 I'm not sure if you really meant "macropsychotic diet", pretty sure you meant macrobiotic diet, but I laughed so hard at marcropsychotic diet that it will become part of comedic repertoire now. When people are talking about vegan and pescopescatarianism or whatever, I'm going to describe my macropsychotic diet, mostly just PCP. I anticipate huge laughs!

This is gross, OP.

Why would you post this? No one here wants to view a corpse. 🤮

The J. Randy Taraborrelli book ok Michael said he told one of limo drivers to call him Miss Ross!

The book also recounts one incident when a teenage Michael was apparently caught masturbating with a guy in his room when his father unexpectedly brought s reporter in there to meet him.

I thought Dr. Klein was the sperm donor for the older boy.

The Jacksons (Michael, Janet, LaToya) all had the same kind of nose jobs where so much cartilage is removed that basically nothing remains except the tip and nostrils.

They were all butchered.

R43, Paris looks just like Debbie Rowe.

On a dark night maybe.

The pics of his body really aren't that shocking, his poor health was visible for many years before he died.

The Pepsi commercial incident was extremely traumatizing and detrimental to his physical and mental health. He already had low self esteem and that just pushed him into the deep end. He admitted he was addicted to painkillers after the scalp reconstruction. He abused drugs for almost 30 years before he died, he was anorexic for most of his adult life, he was overworked and couldn't sleep without drugs. That body is the result of that.

He was a drug addict. That rarely gets said for some reason. But he was an addict, just like anyone hooked on heroin or cocaine. I think his nutty fans never wanted to accept that. And what an addict he was, taking a drug like propofol, a surgical anesthetic, on a regular basis in order to sleep. He called his his "milk."

Imagine being molested by Michael.

R27 That looks like a Bose clock radio.

r119 everyone with eyes knew Michael Jackson was a hardcore junkie years before he kicked the bucket. That doesn't mean they couldn't be fans of the music

r119 it was said many times in the thread already.

R43 You know that the boy who played Oliver Twist claims he’s the father of at least one of the kids. Mark Lester.

I can't look at Janet without thinking: NOSEJOB!

Same with Kim Kardashian and Cher. It's like their faces need their real noses.

Although I really like her, I feel that way about Keira Knightly, r125. Her old nose was fine and it's too skinny now. It doesn't fit her face.

Hello.

He probably kept a jug for urine so he wouldn't have to turn the lights on and all that. Just trundle over, piss and go back to sleep.

There was probably a bit of male pattern baldness, too. And perhaps some incontinence. He was a 50-yr. old man.

The hair glue was probably temporary, like false eyelash adhesive.. Probably took it off at the end of the day.

He didn't want negro hair, so he would have worn caucasian black-haired wigs anyway. He didn't want a black nose, black chin, black hair, black skin, black children or a black wife.

[quote]Jet magazine published that he was getting a "sex change" for Clifton Davis.

WOOOOO-Ben!!!!!!

Remember when Lisa Marie Presley said that she and MJ had sex?

Most gay men through history have married and had kids. That only ended in the 70s and 80s. If Jackson did manage to get it up once or several times for Presley that would be surprising, but not shocking.

I will always feel sad for him.

I wonder why Lisa Marie didn't have his baby. That had to have been the plan--to make an Elvis-Jackson spawn.

Feel sad for the boys he molested.

I wonder why Lisa Marie didn't have his baby. That had to have been the plan--to make an Elvis-Jackson spawn.

They would have created the most fucked up celebrity child ever. Priscilla probably put a stop to them procreating

Prince Michael Elvis Presley Jackson

The story was that she didn't fall pregnant immediately although allegedly they both claimed they wanted a baby. The reality could easily be that she was smart enough to be using birth control in the beginning. If sex ever happened it most likely dried up quite quickly.

[quote]The slide began during awards season in 84 when he got on stage to accept and the general public began to see for the first time just how shockingly effeminate he was. The schoolyard decided he was gay.

Was this the video?

[quote] Math is not your friend, [R14].

R15, apologize to R14 right now, you old bat. Her math is correct.

Yes.

Paris is much prettier and thinner, but they look very much alike.

Micheal would be trans now. He reminds me of all those autistic trans with arrested development who collect toys and dolls.

Being a drug addict was the only normal thing about him.

Whatever Michael Jackson's financial problems were at time of his death his estate is worth and generating lots of money.

More from recent news regarding Michael Jackson's estate.

Which is why they were happy to let him spiral into the bin.

Michael Jackson is yet another sad case of what happens when a child star grows into an ever bigger one as an adult.

It would have taken an army of physiatrists decades to sort out Michael Jackson. But as wont to happen when someone is making huge sums of money people (including often parents and other family who are benefitting) along with anyone is won't say what needs to be said. In a word "no" or "enough".

He was a raging narcissist so therapy probably wouldn't have worked on him. There is no way he would ever admit to doing anything wrong. He probably thought there was no harm in what he was doing with little boys.

This is a guy who had artwork of himself dressed up in royal attire in his own home. He was completely disconnected from reality. The army of sycophantic enablers and cult like fanbase didn't help either.

I think they were being overly generous with the black box covering his genitalia. The box probably only needed to be 1/4 of the size.

MJ was proof that no amount of money or success or surgery can bring you happiness. If you hate yourself (and who wouldn't after his upbringing) you're going to be miserable if you live to 50 or to 90.

You can't run away from who you really are, and he tried more than most.

[quote]R15, apologize to R14 right now, you old bat. Her math is correct.

Bless your heart, r139. Obviously, math isn't your strong suit either.

[quote]Autopsy said he was 69" (5' 7")

A person who is 69" would be 5'9" tall.

60 inches = 5'

60/12 = 5

69" = 5' + 9" = 5'9"

OP, why are you linking an article that's 12 years old?

I had never seen that pic….

Seriously? Wow.

Have you seen the pic of him on the hospital gurney?

[quote]Otherwise, he would have just walked around looking patchy, or covered the depigmented areas with heavy makeup.

If he could tattoo his lips and eyebrows, why not just tattoo the lighter patches to match the darker ones?

That picture with Clifton and Michael at r127 (1973), Clifton is 28 and Michael is 15!

Actually Clifton Davis was known for his work in musical theatre (Broadway) and his first television show "That's My Momma" before doing "Amen". This and of course as a songwriter.

TWO GENTLEMEN OF VERONA, THE MUSICAL with OBC stars Raúl Juliá and Clifton Davis.

Night Letter!

Sorry, wrong link.

Clifton Davis was starring in "Wicked" on Broadway, don't know if he's still performing.

I had NO idea the obscene amount of money his kids inherited. Is that old bitch Katherine still alive ? Clifton is still a damn fine looking man.

I'm of the opinion that Wacko's vitiligo was caused by his use of skin-bleaching products. In other words, he got vitiligo from whitening his skin, as opposed to his version of the story, which was that he whitened his skin because he got vitiligo.

Although the vast majority of cases occur naturally, there have been instances of people inadvertently causing it themselves via such chemicals.

Of course I don't have any proof, but it makes sense when you take into consideration everything else he did to make himself look as Caucasian as possible (the nose, the lips, the hair, etc.), plus the white wives and kids, not to mention all the little white boys he was keeping company with. And we're supposed to believe that he just coincidentally developed this disease that forced him to lighten his skin so it wouldn't look patchy?

Remember, this was a man who was a pathological liar about every single aspect of his life. Despite the obvious massive litany of cosmetic surgeries, he insisted that he only ever had two minor operations on his nose to help him breathe better, and that it was all just normal changes to his appearances due to aging. He really was totally deluded, and it still amazes me how much the press and the public went along with his bullshit.

Had not seen the gurney pic either. Very Kenneth Anger!

The MJ fans are the most delusional on Earth. They think he was humble, generous, and a voracious ladies man.

LOL

R14, R139, you are both innumerate. Sixty-nine inches is five feet nine inches, not five feet seven inches. R15 is correct.

R14 and R139 probably used a math conversion app to figure out MJ’s height in feet, and confused the answer, 5.75 with 5 feet, 7 inches (rounded down — how mean of them!) Hopefully they will never, ever work in 3D set design.

I always thought the major driving force behind the plastic surgery was to erase anything that connected him to his father who he hated with a passion.

I think he pretty much cut off contact with his family after the molestation trial.

I heard he was obsessed with how Diana Ross looked and always wanted to look like her, so he tried to emulate her looks with plastic surgery.

A far as I can see, Clifton never married.

[quote] it was said many times in the thread already.

In this thread. But when he was alive the fact that he was a hopeless drug addict was generally glossed over. His fans thought it wasn't his fault he was one drugs; it was the fault of the doctors who gave him the drugs.

"Remember when Lisa Marie Presley said that she and MJ had sex?"

I just threw-up in my throat a little.

Just goes to show you that all the $ in the world and you can still be miserable. I was never a big MJ fan but feel badly for him. He sounds like a tortured individual.

[quote]but feel badly for him.

Oh, dear!

Do you ever feel sadly? Or funnily?

The grammar police are out of control yet hilarious.

R167 We stan a Spinal Tap reference!

R179

Get your vision checked then; Clifton Davis has been married twice. First marriage ended in divorce and second is ongoing.

There long have been rumors and whispers about Clifton Davis. Thus far no one has come up with anything concrete and as a minister Clifton Davis made some not so enlightened statements in past.

Cannot find link to it online atm, but seem to recall Clifton Davis preaching from the pulpit for "gays to keep that out of church" or words to that effect.

Of course we all know AA men who creep about doing things on down low; this includes ministers.

Previous Clifton Davis thread on DL

I bet Lisa Marie could have made a fucking fortune if she had written a book about her time with Jackson. Too bad we'll never get to hear the juicy details from her. I doubt she told her daughter anything interesting about her time with him.

I have no idea what Clifton Davis' sexuality is. I don't know enough about him to comment.

I will say this though. Someone being or becoming very religiously conservative and saying, or allegedly saying, homophobic things, or very condemning things, about gay people, absolutely does not mean that person is straight.

Little Richard, at different times, was one of those people.

[174]. According to grammarians, bad is an adjective that should be used to describe nouns and pronouns, and badly is an adverb that should be used to describe verbs. Therefore is correct.

The rule you just described, r182, is exactly why "I feel badly" is incorrect.

The person feels "bad" (adjective) which is an emotion.

If the person feels "badly" (adverb) that means, for instance, he has damage to hands and cannot feel properly.

Put it another way, you wouldn't say in describing your current mood "I feel terrifically" or "I feel greatly," would you?

{quote]He was one of the most deranged celebrities of all time. I get the impression he wanted to be a woman, a WHITE woman,

You mean, like this?