Diane Keaton a joke

She seems greedy. Driven by commerce not art.

I'm glad she got a Razzie nomination for Mack & Rita

I used to really love her,but she’s done a DeNiro & is saying yes to everything.

I went to IMDB to try to find a Netflix Blu-Ray she was in, & I can’t find it for the life of me. It was a large ensemble cast, family drama thing, I seem to recall they were staying in a cabin of some sort. No real plot to speak of, the big twist comes when the family dog somehow gets out during a storm, & suddenly it switches to animation, in an otherwise adult/soapy film.

It must’ve been about 2015 or so, & I had a hard time finding BluRays on Netflix, but saw this title, whatever it was, & gave it a try because she was in it. I ended up losing a lotta respect for her after this, it was so schlocky & overwrought.

We of a certain age grew up admiring her. We still love her.

She lost a lot of money flipping houses in the economic crash of the late aughts. I guess she is still cashing checks because she needs the money.

I don't begrudge actors for taking roles. Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, whoever. It doesn't bother me and I still think they can do good work in bad productions.

That is not the case with Diane Keaton. She *herself* is awful in everything she does and has been for more like the past four decades than the past one.

Her performances have been so shrill, smug, and self-parodying for a long, long time now.

I can forgive a hack. She's just an bad actress and unlikable presence at this point.

I liked POMS.

[quote]I liked POMS.

I did too.

Maybe movies are getting worse and there are slim pickings, particularly for an actress of a certain age?

She is getting worse in those movies!

R5, she's lost nothing in real estate. One of the most respected flippers. Sold to Madonna and Ryan Murphy.

She's in her late 70s. How is it that normal people who only earned average incomes can almost all retire before that age and be fine? Why do so many celebrities have to keep whoring themselves out until they die?

Rhetorical question; we all know why.

She probably likes to work, likes to fund her real estate projects, still gets star billing and fat paychecks. Why would she quit? It's not like she playing the mom roles on the Hallmark Channel.

Don't watch her movies, OP. Life is too short to bitch about 70 and 80 year old working movie stars.

Travel back in your time machine to when she made a good film. That year would have been1970-something.

For more than forty years she's made nothing but shit films.

Digging in doesn't improve the tone of your thread.

Was it LOVE THE COOPERS, r3? I haven't seen it but it has credits for animators.

She had a good run. Oscar nominated in 4 consecutive decades. (70s, 80s, 90s, 00)

I like her. Good for her for staying active well into her golden years.

Yes, she's in old person 'Good for you for staying active!' territory rather than 'That was a good performance in that new film!' territory.

Never cared for her acting, but I'm still envious of her money and real estate skills.

She's the quintessential Baby Boomer actress. So apply that to her 'money skills' if you want.

I checked her IMDb.

She's so oddly prolific. Lots of dumb elderly rom-coms -- and I haven't hear of a-one of them.

And a Justin Bieber music video?!

She's found her lane and seems to enjoy it. As a fan of other aging actresses like Bette and Goldie, I wish they'd done the same.

[quote] She's found her lane and seems to enjoy it.

Too much so. Acting where you just keep playing yourself isn't acting.

R18 I would argue she deserved neither nomination for Marvin's Room or Something's Gotta Give. Meryl asked the studio to promote Diane for a nomination instead of her so they pulled Meryl's For Your Consideration.

2003 was a weak year apart from an amazing Charlize in Monster, Diane is awful in certain parts of SGTG, who can forget that fucking ridiculous crying montage?!

Every film she's made since SGTG has been an attempt to remake SGTG.

More people talk about the interiors than anything else about that film.

I thought the crying montage was funny. She looked ridiculous, but she was supposed to.

Those godawful clothes don’t buy themselves!

Diane Keaton a working actress.

How did she get cast in the Godfather movies? Was she established already?

R31 if only there was a system of tubes that carries information like this to a person.

Did you see how she has a reunion film with Goldie and Bette in pre-production? A Childhood History Plan. Three women are forced to spend Christmas together, along with their children and grandchildren, after the man they were all once married to drops dead in a New York City department store.

Three of my least favorite actresses.

I enjoyed Poms and the supporting cast was fun - particularly Jacki Weaver.

Not every film has to be Gone with the Wind OP.

I feel like POMS can't have been good based on Weaver's response to Anjelica Huston's comments, which were only possibly about that movie.

Diane and Goldie and Bette are also attached to Divanation which is in development.

It wasn't Gone with the Wind R36. Does it need to be?

It was enjoyable shtick with a few lough out loud moments. That's all some movies are.

[quote]How did she get cast in the Godfather movies? Was she established already?

It wasn't for the quality of her performance in them.

Does she have “an” OnlyFans?

1977's 'Looking for Mr. Goodbar' with Keaton and Richard Gere still holds up decades later. Actually, the whole sex-party-disco-drugs-if it feels good, do it- vibe is a fairly accurate depiction of the era. From one who knows. Good times !

Nobody's seen it, R41.

R41- Looking for Mr. Goodbar 🍫is my favorite too.

I think she is driven by the fact that once women reach a certain age Hollywood erases them. The fact that she even gets any work is a testament to her acting chops but also her agent's business savvy. Diane Became a "type." She is unique. That's why she is still working. Her quirky style has helped her image.

[quote]It's not like she playing the mom roles on the Hallmark Channel.

At her age that would require a womb of iron.

Really OP?

A good friend and hard core movie lover said this about DK years ago: she needs good, strong, competent and capable direction. If she's in a film where the director is phoning it in, or is too laid back, indifferent, too timid to put his foot down, she'll do the same.

btw I know there are others, but she sided with Ellen Degeneres when she was going down.

R12 - You're right. People only retire from jobs they can't do anymore or don't want to do anymore. For an actor, regardless of career level, so much of self-identity is anchored in their work. At a celebrity level, it's hard to give up the attention. If people know you've retired, they think you can't get work or can't do the work, and you're no longer in the mix for the very thing you've spent your life doing. That would be a tough transition for anyone who loved their work.

R29 - You're right too! I remember in the glory days of Premiere magazine someone wrote (paraphrasing) that Diane Keaton dressed like an alcoholic lesbian who reached into her closet each morning and just put on whatever she pulled out. That's still true.

for my money, in that age bracket.......you've got Lily Tomlin, and then there's everybody else.

Like Woody Allen, she’ll work until the day she days and hates to look back. She never did an Inside the Actors Studio and rarely participates in DVD retrospectives. Her attitude is ok, so I did a movie people liked, so blah.

I do find her unsentimental attitude refreshing and I do appreciate that unlike virtually every other actress in her age group, she doesn’t whine about how much better things were. Still, she could at least balance the Book Club paychecks with more interesting (ie lower paying projects). Some of these choices are just inexcusable, really.

Dies*

She is a one note actress. Nervous and chaotic are all her characters.

The last dramatic role I remember was in that Pope series with Jude Law.

She was fine in that.

I like everything about her- clothing style, her home renovations- impeccable taste, and most of her movies. Guess I'm in the minority.

I saw her in The Good Mother recently. It's a bit soapy but Keaton has some really excellent moments of despair and an angry monologue that she does an excellent job with.

[quote]The last dramatic role I remember was in that Pope series with Jude Law.

I thought she stuck out like a sore thumb in that.

R47, DK’s director in Hempstead must have been asleep at the wheel because she is awful in it. She fucking whisper narrates herself through scenes with no dialogue, “What am I doing? Where am I going? Oh, I don’t know where I’m going. Oh, I don’t know what I’m doing. Oh, what’s this?” It’s the worst.

Diane is a really strong dramatic actress. Her best performances in my opinion or Looking for Mr. Goodbar, Reds, and Shoot the Moon. It's too bad she doesn't do more dramatic films. She mostly does flighty comedies where her character is always in some comedic crisis.

She does look great, though. She looked fabulous in The Book Club compared to over plasticized Jane Fonda and Joker face Mary Steenburgen.

*are

She's played herself for the last few decades right down to her wardrobe which she never changes (minus the cheerleading outfit for Poms, in which case she was better off wearing her discount castoffs).

[quote] Diane is a really strong dramatic actress. Her best performances in my opinion or Looking for Mr. Goodbar, Reds, and Shoot the Moon. It's too bad she doesn't do more dramatic films. She mostly does flighty comedies where her character is always in some comedic crisis.

Agreed, she was best as a dramatic actress. Also in Mrs. Soffel. Unfortunately, she seems to have lost every dramatic bone in her body and now she just rehashes Annie Hall for a quick paycheck every year.

I loved her in Crimes of the Heart. It was a hammy movie, but enjoyable.

I thought we saw her fanny in the Something's Gotta Give bilut it was just her boobs.

Checking her Rotten Tomatoes, the last movie certified fresh was Marvin's Room with Meryl and Leo, almost 30 years ago!

You cunts trashing Diane need to check out Shoot The Moon.

R64 that's the point, she is capable of being remarkable, of being a contender, but for over 30 years she's just been a bum

ooof!

"Ooh, I'm so kooky and neurotic!"

She great at comedy too when she’s not recycling her tired schtick. Baby Boom is one of her greatest performances. She’s always better when she’s playing someone who’s a bit of a bitch. She’s supposed to be very easy and professional to work with too, which always helps.

[quote]Baby Boom is one of her greatest performances.

Would've been better with Shelley Long

Baby Boom starts well enough but then quickly goes off the rails.

R57 I was just going to post how much I enjoyed this little film.

R69 - It would have been better with Shelley Hack.

[quote] She seems greedy. Driven by commerce not art.

Oh, please! She, like any other actor, just wants to work. And good roles are hard to come by, especially for an aging actress. Every actor who's had a long career has done crummy movies. They do it because they want to work and they have bills to pay. But there are actors who do movies they know are garbage just for the big paycheck. I doubt very many actors are "driven by art."

[quote] [R69] - It would have been better with Shelley Hack. — R72

It would have been better with Shelley Duval.

R24 I had no idea Justin sang that song lol

Lange and Spacek were both better than her in Crimes of the Heart.

R76 well she absolutely can’t play a Southerner convincingly. Or anything below Middle to Upper Middle Class - even though that’s not really her background. Before I knew anything about her life I always assumed she was an East Coaster.

R77 I had no idea she wasn't an East Coaster until you just said she wasn't. I would never have guessed.

Was she any good in "Reds"? I've never watched it.

What quality roles is she turning down, OP?

She could produce her own show or a great little script like "Hello, My Name Is Doris", "Nyad" or "Places, Please" to actually remind everyone what she is capable of. Or she could tell that a script stinks and say she'll only do it if they give it a rewrite.

She's 77, r81, she has nothing left to prove. It sure does seem to irritate you, though.

[quote] It would have been better with Shelley Duval.

It would have been better with Shelley Berman.

I loved Baby Boom. Mainly because I've always fantasized about buying a little place in the country.

The only thing surprising here is the fact that there are roles for women in that age category, shitty or not.

Exactly, r85.

R57, I also enjoyed Hampstead, not so much for Keaton but because of Brendan Gleeson. He's a terrific actor that always seems to shine, even in his smaller roles.

Someone mentioned DK's voice. There is an awkwardness to Diane Keaton's speech patterns. She likes to throw around this neurotic like tone for some reason. It seems forced. I don't know if this is her every day speech pattern but it has an uneasy edge to it that I don't like.

All I know is she must have one hell of an agent to consistently get first billed over the likes of Jane Fonda, Richard Gere et Al.

But she was third billed in First Wives club - she must have had a different rep then.

She was top billed in Crimes of the Heart as well, even though her role was the weakest and a precursor to her crying in Something's Gotta Give.

It was in alphabetical order r89.

Her background was very middle class Santa Ana.

She’s nine hundred years old. Leave her alone.

Got to admire her work ethic and remaining middling enough to get regular gigs... same to Dianne Wiest.

At best, they're just character actresses... often were often up for the same roles.

More actors/actresses would have had better careers if they accepted that. . .

Our Sally of The Sally Field Programme was supposed to play her role in Crimes of the Heart. She must have figured out it was the least interesting of the three roles and didn't sign up.

She and Gere may be reunited, 45 years after Goodbar.

R95 I kinda wish it had been Sally Field insead of Diane Keaton. We'd have all three of the actresses who starred in "save the farm" films in 1984 together onscreen. Also Sally Field can play hysterical more convincingly than Keaton.

She's got a little niche to herself. She enjoys working.

What more does one want?

[quote] What more does one want? A proper stylist.

[quote] What more does one want?

A proper stylist.

When I’m tense I like to imagine Diane Keaton in a bland but tastefully appointed home somewhere in Malibu, wearing lots of cashmere and cradling a mug of tea while a big fluffy white Fancy Feast cat purrs beside her.

Gee… an actor who makes a living by acting… takes roles to make money. It’s almost as if they treat it like their job or something.

R98 - well, she’s more KNOWN at playing hysterical, but I wouldn’t say she’s BETTER.

She’s also not as good or as nuanced an actress, honestly. Though she is more convincing as a Southerner.

R4 We don't.

If Helen Mirren had played her role in Something's Gotta Give we would have got fanny and arse as well!

R20, so what? Maybe she’s into her real estate investments more than she is into acting. Ever think of that?

There are very few people of her age writing scripts for people her age. She's only done one limited series that I'm aware of and that is the prime place for her at this moment.

I liked her in Manhattan Murder Mystery

R109 she was so good in that.

Has she done any actual dramatic movies in the last two decades or have they all been comedies?

[quote]Then, long before Allen’s film (Play It Again, Sam) came out, Keaton auditioned for The Godfather. The Mario Puzo novel had spent 67 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list following its publication in 1969, but somehow Keaton had missed it. “I didn’t even know what The Godfather was,” she recalls. “Someone said to me, ‘You’ve got to go and audition for things,’ so I auditioned for the film, and I got the role of Kay Corleone,” wife of a mafia scion. In an Instagram video marking the 50th anniversary of the film last year, Keaton narrated clips from her audition with costar Al Pacino, sounding incredulous that she, a comic actress, had been cast in the dramatic role: “That was the strangest thing to ever happen to me in my whole life.”