Cute tech guy dies

Holy shit. Stabbed to death. RIP

He was loaded. Why was he walking around at 3am???

Probably stopped to give a homeless some money.

So his house is available?

He was coming home from a party

Not dies, murdered. This is unacceptable.

Considering what we know about the crime wave in San Francisco, is any of this really surprising?

Wealth, even limitless wealth, can't protect you.

If this was a mugging, why was he killed?

Lousy headline, OP. "Dies"? Words have meanings. Murdered. Killed. Slain. Knifed to death.

R2, working late, partying, drugs, and/or sex. My guess, coming home from one or more of those activities, threatened at knifepoint for his money, and he refused to hand it over or the robber got jumpy/was high. Scary.

Must have been terrifying. Hope they find the murderer soon. Scary out there.

How gauche. If you can't drive into your penthouse- you're Poors.

Can I have his stuff?

What was on his Music Player for Android?

Probably just right wing propaganda to slander the good name of San Francisco.

Horrible and monstrous, so violent out there. Not sure why he didn't he have a driver or car service?

Poor guy. I'm going to throw my chip in and say it wasn't random though.

Drug deal gone wrong? Lover's quarrel?

R17- GAY lovers quarrel?

A useful member of society, no doubt murdered by some strung-out, piss-reeking waste of human life who never did anything of value for anyone.

These kinds of murders hurt the most.

I know NOTHING AT ALL about this! Stop calling me!!

R20 is on his way to Malta as we speak.

I just assumed this was Chicago.

The article is really vague. Was it in his house? On the street? By a stranger?

[quote] If this was a mugging, why was he killed?

It's what they do. There has always been an element of viciousness to many street crimes. It rarely got reported though. Someone willing to stab another person is willing to get up close and personal and that tells you something about that person. Sociopath.

This could be a seminal event for San Francisco

The rents may even go down!

R23. I wondered that too actually.

The police were called to the outside of a high-rise condo complex, and found this guy upon arrival. But arrival where? Did they find him on the street or in the complex? It's not completely clear.

And there's no clue who was behind it or why. Statistically it's probably not random.

R26, you seem to have answered your own question. They were called to the OUTSIDE of the condo and found him there.

b-b-but Newsom and Gascón have saved the state of California...

He might have been mugged for cash, yet he probably had no cash since he was all about digital currency. When he didn’t have cash to give the mugger, he killed him. How ironic!

[Quote] b-b-but Newsom and Gascón have saved the state of California...

B-b-but one dead person must mean the entire state is in horrible shape!

White people should not be out at a certain time in these hard left cities. It’s too dangerous.

Where was Peter Thiel?

"Crime wave" = too much Faux News. A cryptoguy is heartbroken---who knew those characters had hearts.

That part of SF is desolate after 5--no real reason to be out in the neighborhood. I wonder if he'd just gotten out of an Uber/Lyft.

He was stabbed in his condo, not on the street. Trade gone wrong?

R13, you don't deserve it.

R29, I often wonder about that because I used to give money to bums from time to time, providing they weren't menacing or too disgusting, but now who's got cash on them any more? I wonder how they cope. I suppose SF will be equipping them with phones and tap functions soon but what about elsewhere? Now when I tell a beggar I don't have any money I really don't have any money. But you worry they will get violent if they don't believe you. Weird times.

I guess SF is supposed to be a progressive utopia? Is this the progressive vision for all of America ? No thank you

R37, feel free to not live in SF.

Who'd want to? It sounds like hell.

In fairness, R38... do you live there? Is it not as bad as it is reported?

R39 has never been to SF but is sure it’s hell.

No I don’t live in SF r41, so I won’t judge what it’s like. Like many cities, what I’ve read is there’s a lot of great stuff and a lot of bad stuff. Funny enough, I do know a friend and his husband who live there, and they love it.

cbs released this .........

A man stabbed to death early Tuesday morning near downtown San Francisco was well-known tech executive Bob Lee, sources told CBS Bay Area.

The 43-year-old Lee was the chief product officer of San Francisco-based cryptocurrency startup MobileCoin. He also started Cash App and was a former chief technology officer of Square.

MobileCoin issued a statement saying Lee had died, but it didn't say how.

"Our dear friend and colleague, Bob Lee passed away yesterday at the age of 43, survived by a loving family and collection of close friends and collaborators," the company's statement said, describing Lee as "a dynamo, a force of nature ... the genuine article."

Officers responded at about 2:35 a.m. to a report of a stabbing in the city's Rincon Hill neighborhood and found the victim, who was taken to a hospital and succumbed to his injuries there, police said.

The city's medical examiner's office hadn't yet identified the victim as of Tuesday evening, but friends of Lee told CBS Bay Area he was the victim.

No arrest has been made in the case and San Francisco police haven't released any details about any possible suspects.

In lieu of flowers, mourners are requested to make donations to their favorite charity via CashApp.

Cryptocurrency? Big red flag for me in general. There's nothing intelligent, productive or good about creeptocurrency.

R45, that’s what jumped out at me, too. Cryptocurrency is very scammy. At best, it’s a medium for criminal transactions.

This is why I don’t host.

Wait, what, he was a crypto bro? I immediately feel less awful about this, as horrible as that sounds.

Is it a random stranger attack or targeted ?

Was the victim married? What was his net worth? Is there a picture of the perp? Why did the perp do it? What was the temperature that night in SF? What is Crypto? How many murders have there been in SF this year? How much did his condo cost? Was it his condo? What's the best restaurant in SF? Has he dined there?

Disgruntled crypto buyer loses millions, seeks revenge. Case closed.

According to reports, the man lived in Mill Valley so he was in the city doing.... something.

[quote]White people should not be out at a certain time in these hard left cities. It’s too dangerous.

I'm in Portland, the vast majority of homeless criminal types here are white. It's amazing how people immediately leap to the conclusion that a black/latino/asian person was responsible.

He is not a crytpo guy, He helped create android and moved on to Squre - a payment product now owned by cash app. Cash app is a Paypal

Damn hit save to fast. A paypal clone - I think their fees are less and it was picked up by millennials.

[quote]He was loaded. Why was he walking around at 3am???

Because he was loaded.

[quote] Drug deal gone wrong? Lover's quarrel?

Where was Paul Pelosi hmm??

I DEMAND to know!

The DM had some details and were being a bit shady. He was returning to a high rise he was staying at. They said he lives in Miami and decided to stay an extra day in CA. They also said his wife appears to live in SF.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

There's some conspiracy theory currently circulating about an inordinate amount of crypto currency CEOs and founders being murdered.

I have been to San Francisco, R41, three times. None of them were at a time when it was as bad as it was now, but it struck me as a city in decline with a homeless problem. So the Golden Gate Bridge is that way, you know what to do.

[quote]He was stabbed in his condo, not on the street.

Nope. It was in front of the Portside condos. One building is facing the Embarcadero, on the corner of Main Street. When you turn down Main St., there's the Bay Bridge overpass (which is pretty creepy at night) followed by Portside 2, which is where this took place.

[quote]yet he probably had no cash since he was all about digital currency.

Nobody carries cash anymore.

Well, except for DLers when they venture out to buy their TV Guide and vodka.

He is a crypto guy R54. Yes, he founded CashApp but was currently the Chief Production Office at MobileCoin

What are they saying the reasons they are being murdered, R60?

[quote] He might have been mugged for cash, yet he probably had no cash since he was all about digital currency. When he didn’t have cash to give the mugger, he killed him. How ironic!

I've lived in DC a long time and we used to always carry a $20 ready in our pocket so we'd have something to give. Any real money or cards were in a secreted pocket or place. I stopped carrying any cards I didn't need for that excursion when I went out. Including stupid shit like CVS card or library card. Not just the theft bit the PITA to replace cards.

This is why we can't live nice lives. We tolerate too much shit from POS people. Good luck to Chicago and now Wisconsin. Enabling crime destroys communities and lives.

Has Sal Mineo commented?

Cut or uncut? Oh, stabbed to death? Never mind.

He was SLAIN.

True stats: 12th homicide of 2023 within city limits. Not trending higher.

His poor little girls.

[quote]His father, Rick Lee, described his son as his best friend, recalling the younger Lee’s open-mindedness and generosity. Rick Lee said he had moved in with his son in 2019 and the “two bachelors” had relocated to Miami last year.

He’s a confirmed bachelor.

[quote]Another friend wrote on Twitter that he learned Lee was killed while walking in the city. Lee was apparently visiting San Francisco from Miami after moving there recently, according to friends and social media posts. He previously lived in Mill Valley, but sold his home for $4.4 million last year. Public officials also weighed in on the anxieties raised. “I’ve heard from a number of my constituents in Rincon Point, South Beach and East Cut, many of whom have already voiced concerns to me about public safety challenges,” Dorsey contiued.

If only he didn’t extend his vacation by one day. That one day was the difference between life and death, plus all the exorbitant fees to change your plane ticket and hotels at the last minute. It wasn’t worth it.

Op gives us a "cute" vague title instead of one people might actually find if searching for this story.

Former MMA fighter Jake Shields remembered the tech executive as a "loyal friend', with Musk responding to his Tweet.

Shields claimed that Lee was 'targeted' in a 'random mugging and attack' despite being in a 'good ' part of the city.

The tech mogul had been living in a $1.8million apartment in Miami, while his wife Krista appears to still be living in San Francisco.

Authorities confirmed that he was rushed to hospital but died from his injuries in the early hours.

Officials have yet to make an arrest, and San Francisco 𝑷𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒅𝒆𝒕𝒂𝒊𝒍𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝒔𝒖𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕.

R66, red states have the most crime so suck it, freeper

All very suspicious and it stinks. Every time we walk through the front door, we are being recorded. Where is the surveillance video of the suspect

"Tech guy dies" and it's not Peter Thiel? Damn, damn, damn

[quote] Not dies, murdered. This is unacceptable.

lol.

That’s San Francisco for you.

[quote] Every time we walk through the front door, we are being recorded.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[quote] Nobody carries cash anymore.

Sure, Jan.

Bakersfield (Kevin McCarthy's home base) has more crime than San Francisco. Suck it, freepers

[quote] Damn hit save to fast.

Oh, dear.

R82 making excuses as per usual.

The problem with that location is that there are huge pillars beneath the overpass as well as recessed areas near the parking gate. Anyone could remain hidden while watching people go in and out of the building. It's always given me the creeps.

Sad.

You’d have to be nuts to live in that shithole.

There is a snuff video posted online of a father stabbed to death in front of his family, in the middle of the day, in a Starbucks located in Vancouver of all places with plenty of witnesses standing around who dared not intervene.

I never, ever, ever ask what was the victim of a murderous crime doing x?

[quote] A useful member of society

A rich tech bro? You’ve got to be kidding me.

[quote] This is unacceptable.

As in because he’s rich or any murder?

Not to make light of the situation because it is tragic and he should not have died needlessly, but just because he was rich and worked it tech doesn’t mean this is more sad or worth of more attention.

If anything I thought the very clear understanding was that generally rich tech people are bad for any cities.

R84 is an idiot. San Francisco doesn't have a high violent crime rate for a big city. You probably like in a shithole red state like West Virginia with tons of poverty

R87, that proves that San Francisco has a low homicide rate for a big city. Thanks for pointing that out!

Yeah, R87 is an idiot.

That's an entirely reasonable crime rate and way below the national average.

And don't even bother comparing it to some of the more dangerous cities like Houston.

R82: "Bakersfield (Kevin McCarthy's home base) has more crime than San Francisco. Suck it, freepers"

What is "freepers"?

Freeper = the kind of Republican trolls who used to hang out at freerepublic.com

Oh, guess I don't hang out with as many Republicans.

San Francisco is basically very safe and clean except for that stretch of Market St and the Tenderloin. If you avoid those two areas then you’ll avoid all the homeless and shit on the streets. Just like if you avoid Skid Row and stay in the WeHo area then it’s generally safe and clean.

[quote] video posted online of a father stabbed to death in front of his family, in the middle of the day, in a Starbucks located in Vancouver

The father courted death when he asked a stranger to not blow vape at his son

Peter Thiel strikes again!

The father assumed a responsibility belonging to Starbucks. The management is quick to call cops on blacks asking to use the toilet but are dead quiet when a disruptive non black is up to no good.

R98 yes and isn’t it strange that in both cases we had an unconfirmed, rushed cause of death distributed to the media with zero evidence.

Why the rushed, faked narratives hand delivered to the media and so quickly?

usually we have to wait a while for a confined cause of death or this much (fudged) detail.

This stinks to high heaven.

I wonder if the friend who convinced him to stay an extra day feels guilty. “Stay an extra day. We’ll go to brunch! What’s the worse that can happen?”

I don’t think it was random at all. Not in that location.

I’m not going along with being forced to believe something like some posters upthread are commanding we do? Nobody knows if it was in his apartment or on the street.

[quote]Nobody knows if it was in his apartment or on the street.

Yes, we do. There was missed blood on the sidewalk as of this morning.

Let me guess, [italic]they[/italic] planted it there.

So he was killed in front of his apartment?

R104, and it’s not just the physical evidence, such as the bloodstains; there’s likely to be relevant security camera footage from the building he was about to enter and/or nearby buildings.

There’s video from the building of him walking down the street, trying to flag down cars after he was stabbed.

[quote] Lee was 'targeted' in a 'random mugging and attack' despite being in a 'good ' part of the city.

Who would ever have guessed the marauders had access to the "good" part of the city too

Excuse me, was any of his property removed from him? Wallet, mobile devices, earbuds?

Homosexuality strikes again!

[quote]Homosexuality strikes again!

Is this like the religion of peace or something?

Why would a developer build a luxury building that features such sketchy access?

Why would a wealthy buyer or renter choose such a building having to navigate sketchy zones at any time of day.

I have lived in sketchy areas and buildings - when I was poor. And I was mugged twice, once at gunpoint, the other at knifepoint.

Does the person he was visiting in that building feel guilty. If she didn’t invite him over to such a sketchy building he would still be alive.

[Quote] f she didn’t invite him over to such a sketchy building he would still be alive.

Or was it a he?

Why would it be a he at 3AM? Men don’t visit their guy buddies that late.

[quote]Why would it be a he at 3AM?

Let’s ask this once again.

R23 Take a class on reading comprehension

R115 Good lord you retard, learn to read.

Few urban neighborhoods downtown are 'nice' at 2:30 A.M. As posters have said, that is a sketchy part of town still, no matter how many expensive (and likely empty) condos there are.

The attack could either be "targeted" or "random," not both.

It could be targeted at a particular place at a particular time, but exacted on a random stranger, who is at the particular place at the particular time.

BUMP

R120 Felt like it just had to post something - anything.

[quote] The attack could either be "targeted" or "random," not both.

Truer words never spoken!

They are calling it a good part of town? Just because your condo cost $3 million doesn’t mean your urban hood is safe.

I can’t wait to see MAGATwitter give themselves whiplash when their gloating hits a brick wall and they’re suddenly forced to mourn a new martyr.

The laughter and glee will turn to tears as soon as they get word that he and his friend Jake Shields had plans to hang out this weekend in Miami, and that another friend, as his interview on the local news was coming to an end, paused and then blurted out: “…..and he was a PATRIOT who loved this country.”

[quote]I don’t care if you are gay but you really Don’t need an entire month to celebrate that you like butt sex

[quote]Why do we need a month to celebrate them sucking dick? I don’t care if they do it just don’t want it crammed down my throat

This is sad. Any city is sketchy at 2:30 in the morning. There was a stabbing in the past couple of years not too far from this area, but that was in broad daylight. A homeless man pushed over an Asian woman and then a Good Samaritan chased after him and was stabbed.

I hope they catch whoever did this.

[quote] The laughter and glee will turn to tears as soon as they get word that he and his friend Jake Shields had plans to hang out this weekend in Miami

In other words the dead guy as a San Francisco gay guy almost certainly voted for the politicians who remade the city into his own murder-machine. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡'𝑙𝑙 pwn the republicans

Surveillance camera footage obtained by The San Francisco Standard shows the final minutes of tech mogul Bob Lee, 43, who was fatally stabbed on Tuesday

Lee can be seen in the images walking on the sidewalk up Main Street away from the Bay Bridge at 2:30am, holding his side and using his phone

He approaches a parked car, and lifts his shirt to show he has been stabbed, but the car drives off and Lee collapses in front of an apartment building

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Desperately seeking help " and the car drives off ". Just what we all would expect from San Francisco.

To clarify in advance: I have no idea what Bob Lee's beliefs were; my commentary is on the celebration of a person's murder which has raged on Twitter all day, and how that will change on a dime.

Jake Shields has clearly been punched in the head too many times, and it's possible that they barely knew each other and he just decided to insert himself into the story. As for the other guy, I have no idea who he is.

Bob Lee's social-media posts don't hint at anything unusual, so it could just be people coming out of the woodwork to get their face on the news.

I WW’d the article at R128, not the post. I wish you could un-WW.

"my commentary is on the celebration of a person's murder which has raged on Twitter all day, and how that will change on a dime."

Please, the vast majority of people on twitter are not celebrating this guy's death

Where did I say the vast majority? I don’t have a Twitter account, so all I can do is search @crazybob and see tweets in which he’s been tagged.

A lot of what has come up for me is gloating that a perceived liberal was stabbed to death in San Francisco.

This was the top one when I just searched:

[quote]Crazy Bob was killed by a POC! Go figure! Folks, he nor I can't make this shit up. Keep your head a swivel, always, esp when around black men. Don't be @crazybob, who thought that Blacks just robbed & killed White people because they were hungry. RIP Crazy Leftist.

Twitter is a sewer

Stabbing death of tech executive unleashes torrent of anger from VCs and techies who ‘hate what San Francisco has become’

And what they did so much to help shape.

No arrests have been made, and police haven’t released any details about a potential suspect.

After Lee’s death was reported, an outpouring of grief and remembrances for the tech executive, who also was the chief product officer at crypto startup MobileCoin, flooded social media. And along with the grief came a flood of anger over the state of San Francisco, which tech leaders have previously called the “worst run city in the United States.”

Michael Arrington, founder of news outlet TechCrunch and venture capital database CrunchBase, also joined the growing chorus: “[Bob Lee] was one of the best humans I’ve ever met. I’m so glad we were able to spend time together recently. RIP. I hate what San Francisco has become.”

"I WW’d the article at [R128], not the post. I wish you could un-WW. "

Done!

1) Good riddance! Serves him right. Lee deserved to die for creating that dreadful app, thinking he was impervious to chaos, and for lacking real world survival skills. Killed by the very people who use his garbage app: ghetto minorities, whores, and crazy, drug addict homeless types. Tasteful friends use Zelle or Venmo. Fuck CA and the daily spam emails I get because of its widespread use. Hopefully this scandal will cut down on all that. Now MTv will have to put up an RIP message during the Drag Race finale. The winner gets $200k and a coffin courtesy of CashApp!

2) Why the fuck would he insist on being peripatetic after getting stabbed? Put pressure on the wound, call 911, and stay calm. Instead he walks around everywhere like he's the final girl in a horror movie, trying to ask for change, and hail a cab in the rain. What is this, Jada Pinkett in Scream 2? Sit your ass down and focus on staying alive! Now's not the time for a walkabout and some early morning marathon training. He thought someone would help his ass because he's a rich, handsome, white guy who doesn't seem threatening. NOPE! We learned from Kitty Genovese that when people see some dark, chaotic shit going down they run the other way. Whatever caused your downfall leave me out of it!

3) In any major city, nothing good happens late at night. Between 11pm-5am stay indoors! It was a fucking weeknight and he has a meeting the next day. He had NO business roaming the streets at that hour. Take a car service from the office to your apartment. Fuck walking to get some air. He should've been sleeping, working in his home office, up getting a late night snack from the fridge, going for a quick bathroom pee, or jerkin' off to some porn. If he was out late it was because he was up to no good (likely drugs, maybe sex) and trouble found him quick! I wouldn't be surprised if they clocked him as a rich guy, tried to shake him down, he refused and told them he doesn't have any cash money on him, and they stabbed him out of anger. Good. That'll learn ya!

[quote]It's amazing how people immediately leap to the conclusion that a black/latino/asian person was responsible.

I don't think that anyone here assumed that Asian was responsible, not for a second. Latino neither.

R136 Mary!

If I was rich I'd rarely go out in public. And then only in the classiest places. But these celebs, etc. think it's exciting to slum and grab a Starbucks while barefoot. Like real people!

Squre = abuse of the English language

[quote]Between 11pm-5am stay indoors!

Gee Grandma, what a blast life with you must be.

Yes, Grandson. Hang out with strangers between 11pm and 5am in strange places and get murdered.

Strangers!

Stange places!

Ooo-ooo-ooh!

Life in Peoria must be terrifying.

Was he at Thiel's New Year's Eve party?

The victim-blaming "Why would he be out after midnight?!" is bizarre.

R145, it is. Some people react to shocking events by reassuring themselves that they’re smart and cautious—it could NEVER happen to them. But that’s the thing with shocking events, they’re completely arbitrary. You could get stabbed to death by a random madman at 4 p.m. coming home from the grocery store.

R145. I for one am not victim blaming.

It's terrible and shocking. I would like to know a little bit more though.

Was this actually random? Having read through the thread and the articles I still can't determine that. It certainly seems he was stabbed on the street and managed to make it a good way before he collapsed (for the final time). Who was the person in the car that drove off? Did he know something about the incident or were they just scared and ran?

But these questions inevitably lead to ones that seem like victim blaming. What was he was doing out at night is a perfectly legitimate question if people want to determine the circumstances and cause behind this death. Was he out for a midnight stroll and this was a random attack? Was he meeting friends or acquaintances and things turned ugly?

I also can't seem to figure out if he even lived in the area. Was it his building that he collapsed outside of? If not, what was he doing around that area? Meeting someone? A hookup gone wrong?

So frustrating that there's so little detail, yet already people are so ready to dump their "hot takes" on everyone.

A father with young children is out and about at 3:00 AM on a weeknight?

Excuses, excuses! R141 R145 R146 R147 are oblivious idiots who can quickly join Lee. Keep thinking you have plot armor in real life and you'll get got just like him. If Lee had gotten stabbed at 4pm more people would've been around to help save him, but at 2am all bets are off, duh! There was absolutely no reason for him to be wandering outside in a major city rife with drug addicts and crime, well past midnight, in the middle of a work week with meetings scheduled the next day. Instead of conserving his energy after the attack he wanders around as if in search of the nearest Starbucks. He was acting foolish and died a fool's death! Add him to the pile of dead white men who thought their privilege would keep them from harm.

^ well, that’s a lot of horse shit shoveled into a single, poorly constructed, paragraph.

He had it coming. Sounds like he was looking to score some drugs late at night and things went south when he went to collect. That or he was stabbed by hobo junkies asking for money. Or a sex hookup gone wrong. Or all of the above. Either way, he was killed for being a good looking, rich, white dude who was out and about when he should've been safely inside enjoying the comforts of his home. Lee lived an insulated life, surrounded by lots of white people who think like him and smart Asians who bask in the glow of white superiority. He never thought such a thing would happen to him. They never do.

Umm, R149 reads fine for me. R150 You don't need the third comma.

There's no denying that the bizarre, violent death, of a seemingly healthy, well off, middle-aged man, at such a late hour, on a weeknight, outside his home strongly suggests he is partly to blame for his own demise.

R149. Clearly nuance is completely lost on you.

Sure, let's just rely on our preconceived notions and label any attempt to uncover more information as victim-blaming. Because we obviously wouldn't want to actually find out who did the crime if it risked casting the DEAD victim in any sort of unflattering light. His corpse has a reputation to think of after all, justice be damned.

You're the one doing a disservice to him and to justice by not asking the questions that need to be asked.

Find your own snuff film clips, asshole.

[quote]Bakersfield (Kevin McCarthy's home base) has more crime than San Francisco.

Guess it depends on your source. This one says SF is more dangerous.

These outraged whites coming to Lee's defense are cracking me up!

[quote]The victim-blaming "Why would he be out after midnight?!" is bizarre.

Sounds like "she shouldn't have provoked wearing mini skirt"

Didn't realize $145 and R157 regularly galavant around town after 2am in the middle of the week. Some of us have real jobs that still require us to get up early in the morning and go to work. Most stores and delivery services are closed until 5am, 6am anyway. Y'all act like this is some young, single guy who died on a Saturday night while leaving the club. He was a 40+ y/o father of two who died on a Tuesday morning around 2:30am with a full day's work ahead of him. Whatever he was doing he shouldn't have been. He brought about his own death.

[quote]Some of us have real jobs that still require us to get up early in the morning and go to work ... He brought about his own death.

Envy is a terrible thing.

I agree, now's the time to leak his nudes and spill sex stories. Who's had him?

R158 has spoken and will not be contradicted!

Do we know what the sex angle is yet? Too lazy to read through all of this speculation so far.

One of the signs of crime getting worse is victim blaming. It help people feel ,they have control over. Rand Paul’s assistant got stabbed in DC after eating lunch at a nice restaurant. A crazy man in a bad mood did it. Isn’t crazy person the go to for most crime these days, we’ll know soon.

control over their lives…

R159 Who the fuck would be envious of someone stupid enough to have millions of dollars and yet get himself stabbed late at night on a random ass Tuesday and then allow himself to bleed to death because he lacked common sense to conserve energy and focus on not bleeding out. This isn't John Wick 4. You can't just get stabbed, carry on talking to people and walking around forever with minimal pressure on the wound hoping things will work out for you because they always do.

An update . . .

So he moved to DeSantis's state AND was referenced in the NY Post?

He deserved it!

R166, Did the Post really have to include a photo of workers washing his blood off the sidewalk?

Whatever, Miami is trash too with terrible humidity and a bunch of dumb whores. It's in Florida and not old enough of a city to be taken seriously. He was a lightweight tech guy who didn't have the good sense to be a billionaire. He probably used his wife's dildo and dressed up like a sissy. Most of these tech companies bleed money. The wealth is an illusion. Avoiding paying taxes, getting government subsidies, and state tax breaks is how they survive into IPO.

Could be random, but this sounds targeted to me.

We may never know, but I find it interesting that surveillance footage has not been released yet.

Had it been a street bum or thug who murdered him, the footage of the area right before, during, or after the attack, would have been released almost immediately.

If there’s zero footage released within the next week, the likelihood of it being targeted rises day by day.

Also? We may never find out who did this, or why.

[quote]Who the fuck would be envious of someone stupid enough to have millions of dollars and yet get himself stabbed late at night

I expect therapy would be helpful in exploring the intense resentment you feel toward this murder victim.

The video will leak soon enough just like his body did. People want it to be some targeted conspiracy, so they can point fingers and place blame, but the truth is, he was up to no good and so, even worse found him.

[quote] random ass Tuesday

A Millennial American idiom.

So he and his father moved to Miami. Where were his wife and kids? Was he visiting them? Did the wife have him killed?

If some bleeding man tried to stop me in a scary neighborhood, I’d call the cops but wouldn’t let him get in my car. Mary! It could be a trap.

So let me get this gay: Lee complains about how rising inequality in SF makes it hard to avoid the bums. Separates from his wife and leaves the family behind in SF. Moves to Miami with his father then travels back to SF for work before getting stabbed around 2:30am on a Tuesday in the wealthy neighborhood not far from Folsom despite having work the next day. Sounds like he was a conservative, closeted fag who divorced so he could live that life then got killed when a sex or drug related robbery went South. Either way, I blame him.

He's not a victim, he's a corpse!

Because Miami is so safe? Miami has more crime than SF.

Eww! He was born a polydactyl (too many fingers). He deserved to die for that alone.

Crime is worse where there are bigger wealth disparities. America has done this to itself

Maybe the wife killed him

I seethe dead people.

[quote]He was returning to a high rise he was staying at.

Oh, dear.

[quote]If I was rich

Oh, dear!

[quote]who's got cash on them any more?

[quote]Nobody carries cash anymore.

They shouldn't unless they want to be robbed.

He looks like the pornstar Paul Johnson.

Yeah, don't link or anything.

He seemed rather full of himself.

Wealthy whites moving into urban areas are not being hip or cool, you’re being foolish.

[quote] Why do we need a month to celebrate them sucking dick? I don’t care if they do it just don’t want it crammed down my throat

Careful, your Freudian slip is showing.

[Quote] Can we really put all the blame on racism, really?

If he was like that on a personal level, there are likely tons of people who wanted to kill him

I’m not convinced this was 100% random. That said, I don’t know how some of these million/billionaires complain when they are ones donating/voting to these politicians and donating to causes like jail/bail reform. Yes, complain and then give money to organizations who want career criminals back on the street because they deserve umpteenth chances because life has been so hard on them.

This guy thinks it was a planned hit.

R151 hey asshole you never came home from a party at 3:00 in the morning? Never decided to get some fresh air after a night of partying and walk your way home?

[quote][R151] hey asshole you never came home from a party at 3:00 in the morning?

Does R151 seem like the type who gets invited to parties?

R166 linked to the New York Post. Of course

R190 probably doesn't have a problem with career criminal Donald Trump being out on the street.

A study commissioned by your fellow Republicans showed that bail reform doesn't lead to more crime. Red states have more crime than blue states

R167, DeSantis's state has a higher crime rate than CA and Miami has a higher crime rate than San Francisco

Republicans aren't big on facts.

R196 depends what sort of crime. If it is mobsters fighting with each other, the chances are small that you will be a collateral. But the blue cities have more criminals attacking people on the street.

I have been to Sicily and I felt welcomed and safe at any time, even though the Island has one of the worst crime organization on the world. But they are not dangerous for tourists at all.

[quote]I have been to Sicily and I felt welcomed and safe at any time, even though the Island has one of the worst crime organization on the world.

Senza senso, r197.

La mano nera non esiste, capisce?

This guy tells a harrowing story of being stabbed. He also walked-up to a car bleeding and they sped off.

R197, Jacksonville, Florida and Bakersfield have more crime than SF and they aren't "blue cities"

Per BestPlaces.net:

Violent crime rates for:

San Francisco: 39.6

Jacksonville: 33.9

Bakersfield: 24

Property crime rates for:

San Francisco: 79.2

Bakersfield: 60

Jacksonville: 39.6

"The Crime Indices range from 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime). Our crime rates are based on FBI data."

The actual number of homicides says otherwise, r201

Because homicides aren't the only barometer of crime. BestPlaces combines murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault into its measure of violent crime.

But yes, the murder rate per capita is lower in SF than the other two places. SF ranks higher than I would have thought for big-city murder rates, though -- #16 on this list.

Wallethub? Doesn't sound very reliable

[R174], he has an ex-wife. The two daughters may have been with their mother, who still lives in the Bay Area.

R192 is an idiot. What parties are being thrown on a Monday night lasting into early Tuesday morning? Certainly not ones for respectable people. It was the beginning of the fucking work week not Fri-Sun. He had meetings scheduled the next day. You people keep trying to make excuses for this guy's death because he's rich and white rather than admit the ways in which he's at fault because of bad choices which ultimately cost him his life.

“He left because San Francisco was deteriorating” = He left for the taxes.

All cities are deteriorating and Miami is a hellhole but it’s a cheaper hellhole than San Francisco.

R206, who will celebrate her 95th birthday next week, thinks women deserve to get raped for wearing short skirts. Those damned hussies!

R206 = complete moron.

Just "Dies," OP? How about "Is Brutally Murdered"??

R66: you must have lived in DC a long time ago. Even in the 90s, I never felt the need to carry cash for muggers.

So little is known about this guys immediate circumstances---was he walking home? taking a taxi/Uber/Lyft? Was he in any kind financial

R190: Your post seems like some sort of wierd AI thing. We have no exvidence that he was supporting criminal justice reform and or that people like him are the main supporters. He's a crypto guy and developed an app that allows evasion of certain bank regulations. He's basically criminal-adjacent. He moved to Miami because SF had so much crime (Miami, of course, has more).

r210 couldn't even get past r6, the poor dear.

He doesn’t look “cute”, he looks mean and douchey.

Hmm, I don't think I've EVER been to a late night party on a Monday night lasting into Tuesday morning much less been in the mood to walk home at such an hour in a city notorious for homeless drug addicts. If it's late and I'm drunk and tired, I'd much rather hop in a car and be driven safely to my door then get inside and mind my business.

Some people live sheltered lives and as such they don't have a developed sense for self preservation. While probably not the worst guy, it's clear he lived a more sheltered life as a rich, successful, white dude. Whatever the case, he shouldn't have been out walking round at that hour. This is a basic lesson I learned long ago as a kid. Nothing good happens late at night, so stay alert and get indoors. It's also why most sensible people, even on a weekend, call it quits around midnight especially if they are taking public transportation home.

The biggest difference is when shit hit the fan and things got real, he panicked instead of staying calm. That's the number one rule. Stay calm. He looked to strangers instead of first focusing on helping himself. Some things, like survival, you can't delegate to so called members of your team. Changing locations and walking around upright expended PRECIOUS energy and certainly didn't make it easier for EMTs to find him in a timely fashion. He also didn't appear to be putting enough pressure on the wound instead taking time to lift his shirt up.

This trolling does have a very ChatGPT feeling.

I have a friend who is attractive, Ivy League educated, tall, fit, and well off monetarily speaking. They've never experienced major physical ailments that would render them weak nor do they really know of the true craziness and random chaos of life. Things have always worked out for them and their big problems are mainly in their head. I think such privilege does affect the way they interact with the world.

My friend loves to walk home while drunk after a late night out and it always seemed unnecessarily reckless to me. They also are known to stop and talk to homeless people who ask them for money. Also a recipe for disaster. If you can't give them what they ask for they can get violent. I've seen it happen. Even being on the phone isn't enough to protect one from harm's way, so I always stay alert when outside after dark. I've tried warning them, but they seem unconvinced and don't really heed my words of advice. Perhaps my friend should get stabbed to learn their lesson.

His place was probably just a few minutes walk. I would have probably done the same instead of calling for an Uber. But then I live in a safe residential neighborhood.

So they still don’t know why he was walking from the Bay Bridge direction to the condo? That is weird for that time of night. Most wealthy people take an Uber from point to point. And that is not a nice area. It’s kind of bland near freeway ramps with office or industrial type buildings.

[quote]Perhaps my friend should get stabbed to learn their lesson.

Dayum.

With friends like these....

The point is that we don't know what he was doing at that hour.

Whatever he was doing, it wasn't good, sensible, or safe and it cost Lee his life.

R216 It's just a run-on sentence written by an idiot, jeez.

Cruising. Now, lets move on to something else.

[quote] hey asshole

Yes, pugnacious people, R151, are more likely to create conflict.

[—the neoliberals will have a field day with his death]

Lol, and Dataloungers won't.

R192 He starred in that extraordinary scene in the shop window.

How come none of the people in the street looked in the window?

He was in town for the MobileCoin leadership summit.

According to one of the friends on the local news last night, he was walking to his hotel.

R227 Omg, thank you for posting this scene! I forgot about how hot it was. One of my favorites that would make me cum repeatedly. Never turned me into an exhibitionist. I'm still just a bb cum slut in search of big dicks.

Bleeding, he staggered up to a car and asked for help. The car drove away.

Never trust what friends have to say. They're too close to the subject and lack the ability to see truth. It doesn't explain why he was out so late at night on a work week, why he was saying in a rougher area, or why he didn't just get a car to take him home. He had the money to keep him safe and chose not to use it.

He was involved in cryptocurrency. Any indication it could have been targeted?

R230 As they should have! Don't involve me in your sketchy, late night drama... unless I get a six figure payout and stock options for saving your life.

"But then I live in a safe residential neighborhood."

I did too!

Me too!

A few minutes away. As if death would need that much time! Rich white people really think they are god's gift to the world and thus can't be harmed. Love it when the real world kills them. Just like all those rich kids who travel abroad never to return home. It's no conspiracy he was taken out. It was privilege.

Betting there will be more to this story. He had a hardened, kinda grotty look in photos. It wasn't a fresh-faced, healthy look. The police statements have that cautious, circumspect tone they had when everybody was buying the Jussie story.

I dunno. I was in SF in 2021 for 4/5 nights at a motel in North Beach, not one of the gutbucket ones, nice, but still a motel Walked up and down Columbus to City Lights, dinner in North Beach's Little Italy, late-night cafes, often returning between midnight and 2:00 not totally sober. No worries. Of course, the North Beach main Avenues do get foot traffic of tourists and young hipster partiers. But it was still COVID time without crowds, and felt okay. Of course, that stretch of Embarcadero where this happened, perhaps there's sketchiness right across from those condos, don't know that part well.

R230, He even lifted his shirt to show his stab wounds to whoever was in the car, and they still drove away.

As my grandmother always said, nothing good happens after midnight.

R237 Exactly. The police know Lee was up to no good and had a bad thing coming to him. I get the sense he was looking to score late night drugs or was approached by a homeless guy while walking and things didn't end well for him. Completely out of his element he flailed around expecting sympathy and in turn was met with the harsh indifference of city life after dark. Can't say I'm displeased.

According to the photos I saw he must have got stabbed inside the building and he staggered out into the street looking to get help.

R238 And? So what? See, it's this kind of assumptive thinking that got him killed. Why would you expect someone to risk their life by helping you and getting involved in some unknown chaos? That's all I need is for whoever stabbed you to come after me for helping you. Or for you to fake me out under the guise of injury only to then harm me. Hell no.

R239 It really is that simple, but everyone upthread keeps trying to find ways to give the dead guy the benefit of the doubt. Simple yet effective changes in behavior could've prevented all this. I hope his family and friends read this thread and are faced with the cold hard truth that it was his fault.

R241 If true, that's even stupider than staying put. The stumbling around in the dark instead of putting pressure on the wound, conserving energy, and waiting for the ambulance is what really killed him. Unless it was a stab to a major artery, he could've survived.

It sounds like the case of the guy on a business trip in Baton Rouge who tried to score hookers and blow, but ended up rolled up like a burrito in a Persian rug instead of safe in his hotel room. Be careful about making new “friends” in the dead of night.

R244 Yep, Lee only has himself to blame.

Does he have earring discs on in that hitc.com photo? Like, trying to rock that Mayan look? He looks like an idiot.

If I were badly stabbed and I was the only person in the building entrance I also would have went out to anybody I saw available right outside. That's your best change to get immediate help. It was unfortunate the the people in the car he approached were too scared to help him.

R247 Would die. The dumb fucker walked much farther than just outside the building entrance. He played this completely wrong in every way. 1) He was up late at night instead of safely at home asleep or quietly minding his own business. 2) He was staying in a weird part of town instead of at a hotel which would have staff on hand to help address his needs and assist in his survival. 3) He exhausted himself walking around aimlessly for god knows how long instead of trying not to move and exert himself further. 4) He thought people would save him instead of trying to save himself.

R247, Did they at least call 911?

[quote] up late at night

But safe inside.

I once found myself really drunk, late at night, in a bad part of town with no phone service. Because I was so drunk, I got badly lost, but eventually, I made it home. Things would've been much easier and safer had I called a cab in advance or had someone get one for me. If I had gotten stabbed while lost, I could've died as there was no one around to ask for help. Always know your exit strategy in case things go south.

R249 Lee called 911 and was talking to them, but he was also wandering around outside and not tending to his wound properly.

He had total douche bro face.

The Daily Mail has security-camera footage of him stumbling and falling at the front door of Portside 2. And KGO just reported that a kitchen knife was found in the Caltrans lot, which is right under the sketchy overpass.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R247, yes, they may have been scared seeing a bloodied man, could have thought it was a trap, too. Bob Lee may have been intoxicated as well, which may account for his wandering around instead of staying still after calling 911. Also, he's worth a half-billion. Don't these people have bodyguards? Versace in Miami (where Lee moved) went out in broad daylight unaccompanied and got murdered (gunfire) by Andrew Cunanan.

That's a harrowing video. Article got wrong about the murders in San Francisco so far in 2023. There have been 13, not 39.

R255 The Daily Mail so so often gets the scoops.

Ha! He made little to no attempt to maintain pressure on the wound, he leaned forward for a long time which isn't good when you're bleeding out, and he insisted on walking upright. So much for a luxury building. Mine is way nicer than that trash and has 24 hour concierge always stationed at the desk. None of this unmanned nonsense. Although, he still wouldn't be able to get beyond the first vestibule. Worth $500M but he has no security with him or a car service? Foolish. Logan Roy would never! Stabbed with a kitchen knife. Hmm, he was up to something. I say late night drug run or attack by homeless. They've been known to keep small knives on them for self defense in the street camps.

R257, of course. Right-wing outlets like Daily Fail have a vested interest in pretending that San Francisco is "lawless"

13 murders in a big city is hardly a lot

R260 One murder is too much.

All senseless, needless murders are too much.

Curious how all the CashApp spam emails stopped today now that news of his death has made waves. Thank god! Not so trendy now is it? I know they know to stop spam they're just lazy about it.

His face right before he collapses is so white, ghost like. What an eerie visual. RIP

R215, R248 R252: ever heard of shock? Jesus Christ. The guy just got stabbed and you superheroes expect him to be rational? He got fucking stabbed.

What a dummy! He did that thing of trying to move like you're not injured or sick which or course exhausts your body even more. Should've stayed down in a sitting position against the glass doors in the light and waited for EMTs while on the phone. I also would've let them know it was a chest injury and that I'm fading fast. Why would he stay bent over like that while bleeding out? Constantly trying to get up and walk after a chest injury was so stupid. Even his phone call was unhelpful to the emergency services.

A lot of the posts on this thread are truly making me question what I'm doing here and posts, but R240, on a board full of assholes and misanthropes who do incomprehensible things under the guise of "pointless bitchery”, you stand out as a truly horrible person.

R264 Some of us have better instincts and know how to survive emergency situations. He did so many things wrong and failed to properly educate himself. When you're rich and secure you never think about ending up in harm's way. He likely thought he was too good to watch movies and tv yet those things could've helped save him. Stay calm and don't move.

Well then, R267, I certainly hope every terrible thing that can happen, happens to you.

I don't understand the mentality of pathological victim blamers. They sometimes seem to think that there should be no real consequences for predators or that society shouldn't really be doing anything to prevent crime because it's just a byproduct of everyone getting their just desserts or something. They're the same people who then complain nonstop about how there is no decorum anymore and how the cities are turning into shitholes. You don't deserve to be victimized just because you were stupid, or careless, or gullible.

He was a pansy ass. None of these white collar, finance, tech, entrepreneur types have any real world life skills.

[quote] Should've stayed down in a sitting position against the glass doors in the light…

You're right, R265.

Just like those two luscious guys at R227.

But R269, if they'd just "watch movies and tv" they could survive anything!

Seems like the people who can't handle the truth aren't interested in learning from his poor judgement to increase their own chances for survival. Good.

Do the police even know his whereabouts that night? I would be shocked if they can identify who stabbed him if it was some random on the street.

And no surprise, block R240 and chunks of the thread usappear. You're a disgusting husk of a person, Rambo. Dirt.

R274 They can track his location via his phone. Google and other apps are constantly collecting our data.

I hope they say where he was coming from, because that is a big mystery.

It's also possible that he would not have survived the wound unless he went into emergency surgery within minutes.

R278, but moving around certainly didn't help.

When you receive a potential mortal wound it's difficult to make an object decision on what your best options are in a given situation. So many people here are blaming the victim like it was a clear cut call on what the proper response should have been.

You may THINK you how you would handle an emergency situation but you never really know until you’re in it. As someone upthread wrote, he must’ve been in shock. Can’t be expected to hold onto rational thought in that case.

I think he took a calculated risk in trying to flag down cars and buzz the apartments after considering the chances of someone randomly stumbling upon him at 2:30 in the morning while he sat in place and put pressure on the wound. He probably didn’t expect them to drive off and leave him to die.

He had fun with a rentboy (incall, rentboy visited SF and rented an airbnb in that condo) . . Then he was killed on the way back to hotel. In hindsight, he should ask the rentboy to do outcall. He prob didn’t want hotel workers to see a hot muscular rentboy to visit him.

The weapon was reportedly a kitchen knife, which was discarded near the scene of the attack. Doesn’t this point to it happening in a residence? If it was a street attack, I would think it would be some kind of combat knife because it’s hard to conceal a damn kitchen knife on one’s person.

Depends if it's a bread knife or a vegetable peeling knife.

Looks like he gave it a heck of a fight.

@84, That's interesting.....but wouldn't it have been more prudent to have the rentboy come to Lee's hotel (outcall)?

Sources: "A kitchen knife with a 4-inch blade was reportedly found in a parking lot across the street but cops are yet to make any arrests."

True r281. It's really kind of ridiculous how many people assume they would sit down, come up with a completely reasonable and rational plan, carry that plan each step in its proper order, and then get on with their night. It's completely idiotic.

You can easily shoplift a kitchen knife or get one from a thrift store. Most paring knives have a 4" blade. Not hard to conceal.

Same, r266. I dont even know what's going on with this thread. A bunch disgusting psychopaths posting here. Wild jackals. Between this and how boring this site has been in general, I think I need to take a long break from this place.

Huh huh, just pointless bitchery my ass. You people are sick.

A kitchen knife with a four-inch blade is the length of a steak knife or paring knife.

It's the puritan impulse r291, and it appears in the oddest ways. He died, so he must be a great sinner. If he wasn't a great sinner, he'd be alive right now. People think the puritan impulse is about Christian piety. It isn't. It's about the belief that only the truly wicked actually suffer in this life. The pure are always magically saved, and if you aren't saved, it is because you are among the impure.

A four-inch blade is too long for most vegetables.

I'd only use one of those for kale after I have drenched it.

Between R293 and the theory people start to blame victims when it gets so bad control seems lost, I think a lot of this case has been explained.

R284 You don't know homeless people. There was a troubled drug addict guy in my city who stabbed someone who made a pass at him. Turns out they knew each other and the weapon used was a colored ceramic knife. Now the assailant still carries a switch blade on the dl. The other guy was bleeding bad and needed to get stitches, but survived. The other guy went on the run before getting arrested. Turns out, his family was rich and used fancy lawyers to get him off. The drug habit is why he was homeless, but the family still used their connections to stop him from going to prison.

“Lee may have been intoxicated as well, which may account for his wandering around instead of staying still…”

Or, maybe it was from the shock of bleeding out after a knife went up into his gut?! Maybe that’s just me, projecting.🤷🏻‍♂️

Has anyone checked to see if Butch Sous Chef is still in prison?

The point some people above are failing to comprehend is that Lee made poor life choices that ultimately led to his demise. You can either take the moral high ground and admonish those who speak the truth by looking at the situation pragmatically or you can learn from his death and take care not to repeat his mistakes. There's this misconception that when chaos hits you are allowed to panic, play the victim, and just let shock take over. Not if you intend to live. Preparedness and stress tests are how both people and organizations ensure smarter responses to ensure survival.

When it came for Lee's survival instincts to kick in, he was ill prepared, likely under the influence, and ultimately died. Everyone knows that when you get injured, you have to control the bleeding be it a stab wound, gunshot wound, or broken bones. And you have to be careful about moving around because that can make the injury even worse. In his case, all that walking around exacerbated his chest wound and he made no attempt to actually stop the bleeding. Now, I will say if he was stabbed in the heart then there is not much that could've been done, but seeing how long he lived and walked around, it does seem like he could've survived if he kept his wits about him.

What has always saved me is the ability to remain calm under pressure and use the surge of adrenaline to maintain a clear head, stay focused, and get out of danger. It also helps that I know how to read and deescalate situations.

R297 What they're saying is that drinking and other substance use can impair judgement and motor skills. He did so many things that a sober person who knows better wouldn't do. Like being out late for starters.

Victim-blaming is a function of the just-world hypothesis.

It's a defense mechanism employed by people who have felt, or who do feel, powerless. Because they can't cope with the natural unpredictability of life, and because they're ruled by fear, they can only function by convincing themselves that they have the power to rise above any threat.

The world is a just place, they try to convince themselves, and they'll never fall prey to anything bad because they're smarter, stronger, and wiser than the people who do become victims.

In a just world, bad things only happen to bad, stupid, or weak people.

Superior people, like themselves, will be perfectly fine in a stabbing because they'll remember and apply, step by step, best practices even as they're in shock, bleeding out, and their brain function is dropping by the second.

TL;DR: pity them, they're whistling past the graveyard.

Thanks R292— I pictured a carving knife because of Hollywood. You never see a killer in a slasher movie use a paring knife

Also, victim-blamers are really fast on that W&W button.

Chef's knives are not good fighting knives--not only hard to conceal, but the blade is fragile.

(They are ideally sharped at around a 20 degree angle. Fighting knives should be in the 30 degree range.)

All I had to do was block one person on this thread for a large number of the grossest, trolliest posts to disappear, many of them back-to-back.

Some weirdo is clearly having an episode.

Well, R280 he IS culpable. Lee was a grown ass man worth hundreds of millions of dollars not some child with bad parents. Even in death there is accountability. No one forced him to be outside walking around at 2am on a Tuesday morning do god knows what. Drugs, drinking, sex, the homeless, lack of security, no car, whatever the case he made some bad decisions and died.

It seems that almost everyone posting in this thread is delighted that the rich man was knifed to death

^ No, most people aren't saying that at all

R306 I don't think people are delighted, but you can say someone bears a certain level of responsibility for their actions without reducing it to the now often repeated phrase on this thread: victim blaming.

I can say from experience that the world can be highly unequal, unsafe, and unjust, but it's still our responsibility to navigate it smartly and take responsibility for our own actions. I do think his privilege acted as a blind spot and thus contributed to his downfall. Why else would you make the choices he made unless you thought you were safe from harm and expected others would save you in your time of need?

I don't ever expect things to go smoothly my way. As such, I always take into account the worst outcomes and adjust my behavior and strategy accordingly. Lee likely never though someone would attack him. Of course. It's a bizarre act. After all, he's a rich, successful, heterosexual, white guy who was famous and beloved in the tech world. Why would such a fate befall him? And yet whoever attacked him didn't care about any of that.

I never would've thought it would be safe to walk around in the dark in a city at such an hour. It reminds me of those rich people who leave their front doors unlocked because the neighborhood is wealthy and regarded as safe only for them to get killed by robbers. If you place too much value and trust in external things like wealth, appearance, property taxes, fame, etc. you'll be surprised when the harsh truth finds you. I just hope people reading this thread can learn from his death and not be so cavalier with their own safety. Plot armor is for movies. There's no guarantee you'll be spared just because you're you.

[quote] Lee was a grown ass man.

He was 43 years of age.

Is that your definition of a man with a 'grown ass'?

Most people want to yammer about how bad crime is or criminals not being punished, etc. The real problem here is that we know almost nothing about what was going on other than the stabbing, staggering and 911. You can speculate all you want and that's what people have done in many different ways.

[quote]I can say from experience that the world can be highly unequal, unsafe, and unjust, but it's still our responsibility to navigate it smartly and take responsibility for our own actions. I do think his privilege acted as a blind spot and thus contributed to his downfall. Why else would you make the choices he made unless you thought you were safe from harm and expected others would save you in your time of need?

He should have (gotten a permit and) carried a gun, then.

Carrying a gun doesn't magically make you safe. Except in NRA fantasyland

So, according to you, what should he have done to protect himself?

R309 Anyone 21 and older is considered an adult, so yes, I'd say a middle aged multimillionaire should be old enough to know better. I can't wait for more details. I look forward to the autopsy and other results of the case if only to show how he was at fault. That is, unless the public gets bored and moves o to the next scandal. This one completely eclipsed the gay NYC judge which in turn overshadowed Samsonite Brinton.

I'm not the one victim blaming him for walking at night. Just pointing out that guns don't magically make you safe

R301 All this talk of knives has me thinking of Scream 6 when the guy got stabbed in the neck.

CashApp scams and spam messages. Square POS terminal adding to the out of control tipping culture. MobileCoin and the volatile cryptocurrency fad. This guy was involved in so many annoying things, I could see how he got stabbed, even if by chance.

R308, beautifully stated.

Seriously being out so late is courting danger

"He had extended his trip by one day when he was murdered." So Lee stayed for that business meeting the next day, but it clearly should've been remote.

Don't ever extend your stay: you were right the first time.

[quote]"But then I live in a safe residential neighborhood." I did too! —Nicole Brown-Simpson

But your neighbor was not safe.

Btw, there is one politically incorrect joke here on Balkans: " A doctor and a Gypsy man are living in the semi detached houses next to one another. A gypsy says to doctor: do you know that my house is worth double than yours. The doctor doesn't believe it, he says: houses are the same and mine is newly refurbished, with top materials and yours is all shabby. The gypsy says: yea, but I have got the doctor as the neighbor and you have a Gypsy.

[quote] If it's late and I'm drunk and tired, I'd much rather hop in a car and be driven safely to my door then get inside and mind my business.

Tell me you’re white privileged without telling me you’re white privileged. Car services and Stouffer’s cost a lot of money.

[quote] So, according to you, what should he have done to protect himself?

He could’ve learned Marcia arts and disarmed that puny little knife.

[quote] Instead he walks around everywhere like he's the final girl in a horror movie, trying to ask for change, and hail a cab in the rain. What is this, Jada Pinkett in Scream 2?

Maybe this the start of a Scream movie and he was the opening kill. Expect more stabbings in the following days unless SFers follow the rules of a horror movie. We’re in a requel. Someone call Sidney to come to SF.

For R324.

[quote] If it's late and I'm drunk and tired, I'd much rather hop in a car and be driven safely to my door then get inside and mind my business. / Tell me you’re white privileged without telling me you’re white privileged. Car services and Stouffer’s cost a lot of money.

r323 I'm not r215, not privileged and not anti-fun/drinking/partying late but if I cannot even afford Uber etc. then I either stay in or come home earlier (or just stay there). In a way, it sounds like another form of privileged entitlement (absolute "right" for those who cannot even afford car service) to expect safety while freely getting drunk (don't know about this guy) til late + walking at that hour alone.

I think was a hit done right at his doorstep on the public eye to warn others and leave no ambiguity.

This is meant to send a chilling signal and keep others in line. Just like the “fall” from the window, imo.

I think that’s why both were so public and violent.

PT sure looks like a killer. It’s not a stretch to think his messiness was ordered to be cleaned up.

R323. Sure, I can agree on that.

But this guy IS white and privileged. He's a rich tech bro so the option of an Uber is available to him.

More underprivileged people might have had a group walk them home or just not gone out at all.

[quote]Tell me you’re white privileged without telling me you’re white privileged

R323 don’t be such an idiot, why are you people repeating words you hear in the media like parrots? Ability to take a cab is not depending on your skin color, but on your class an financial status. There are plenty of poor whites and wealthy blacks. And we are discussing a multi millionaire here, not some random guy who might have been broke, so the poster you mentioned wasn’t trying to act from some superior position.

[quote]these hard left cities.

🤡

[quote] It was unfortunate the the people in the car he approached were too scared to help him.

Unfortunate, fer sure. And that is putting it mildly. It's the most upsetting part for me.

R334, You have to wonder why THEY were out that late on a weeknight.

Not that cute here.

[quote] It was unfortunate the the people in the car he approached were too scared to help him. Unfortunate, fer sure. And that is putting it mildly. It's the most upsetting part for me.

Maybe the person in the car was a woman driving alone. Maybe she saw a man stumbling around, moving erratically, trying to get her to stop. Maybe she assesses the situation as dangerous and decided to put her own safety first. It can be a ruse for dangerous people to appear injured or in distress, to get well-intentioned people to stop and engage. Then they are robbed or worse.

Had I been in the car, I would have called 911, though.

There is so much speculation in this thread when there could be a simpler, more innocent scenario. He was probably hanging out in a bar, drinking and chatting with some fellow tech bros. When the bar closed at 2am, he decided to walk home. Around 2:30, he met his demise.

Only the losers on this site could turn a murder victim into class war. You deserve your alienation and general weirdness. Whatever someone does or doesn't do no one else has the right to take your life.

See R300 and read it again and again and again and maybe you won't have to live isolated, with the shirt cuffs of someone whose social life is mostly an internet porn addiction.

The video is very strange; it looks like he has no idea of the extent of his injury and gets up several times after collapsing. Also, the upscale neighborhood he was in has a reputation for being relatively safe, but like the rest of S.F., crime has been creeping into the area.

SF is just creepy, scary, haunted, weird and icky.

[quote]the weapon used was a colored ceramic knife.

Oh, yeah! I've got my eye on you now, Mister.

How sad that it takes the murder of a celebrity to draw such concern over the horrific conditions in San Francisco these days.

R341, no, it isn't. It's not even close to being one of the most violent cities in America, in spite of what MAGA wants you to believe. That's why it gets millions of tourists from all over the world

[quote]The Rincon Hill area is one of just a few in the city that has 24/7 private security patrolling the neighborhood. At the time of the stabbing, two security guards were driving their nightly route around a 67-block radius that includes Rincon Hill, and were not nearby, said Andrew Robinson, executive director of the East Cut Community Benefit District. The security is funded by residents in the area through property taxes.

It’s sounding less and less like a random stabbing. The article also mentions that it’s the first homicide in the district this year. Lee called 911, but didn’t describe his assailant?

Someone will always be the first homicide. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t random. If he knew the killer, he might have said, Joe stabbed me or this girl I met stabbed me. Not identifying meant it was random and a shock.

Unless it was a planned hit by someone lying in wait or trailing him, R346

DM has pictures of a 'shadowy figure' with a roller suitcase near Bob Lee's body right after he collapsed. The figure looks over in Lee's direction and scuttles off.

Bob Lee was supposedly walking to his hotel.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[quote]Timestamps show the suspicious figure creeping around the shrubs outside a nearby office building at 2:38am, minutes before police arrived to find Lee.

The figure is not “shadowy,” just dressed in bulky, all black clothes that conceal him or her completely. Totally not suspicious!

R349, It could be the Grim Reaper.

Damn that is creepy.

Was the victim involved with of one of those polyamorous, fraudster tech-guru cults?

The guy crosses the street with a roller suitcase and with something in his other hand as well, a smaller case perhaps. He disappears from the camera but comes back in view minutes later without the roller suitcase and is standing on the corner and I think I see something in his hand that could be a knife. Seriously, someone else take a look please. Then the guy bends over and he grabs some dirt--you can see it fall out of his hand. He walks a few paces and checks out the next bed of bushes, and the next. He continues walking until a truck with flashing lights racing down the street in the same direction as he is when he turns around and walks the other way.

Could it be he's using foliage to wipe his bloody hands?

In the CCTV footage, the area looks like a ghost town at 2:30 AM, just the person in black and the victim. As for the car Lee tried to flag down, maybe that was the assailant’s ride.

I think the guy might be checking out the dirt to see if he could bury the knife there.

If he's the killer he's in no hurry to flee the scene, maybe because he's got nowhere to go.

That's classic homeless... bundled in what they can wear on their backs, with a found suitcase full of necessary things like rubber bands, floppy discs and rusty nails.

Except Judy Garland used to look a lot like that when she tried to escape a hotel where she couldn't pay the bill. Maybe her ghost was heading to the Fairmont?

R358 If a suspicious-looking homeless person was hanging out in that neighborhood, the hired security officers either missed him, or weren’t doing their jobs. Also, homeless people in general probably avoid Rincon Hills because of the neighborhood patrol. The streets look clean and empty there.

^^ I mean “Rincon Hill.”

I think that might be the same person the police were talking to on the corner in the early news coverage. I can't be sure because they were mostly obscured by the cops' backs in the video..

Since the stabbing apparently took place under the bridge overpass, for a mystery person dragging a suitcase not to be mentioned as having been seen in any of the Main St. footage along with Bob Lee, he would've had to have fled toward the Embarcadero and then headed back on Spear St. to be coming from the direction he's seen coming from. That would have taken a while.

When I lived a half block from there, if I was walking from the Embarcadero side at night, I would always avoid the bridge end of Main St. and go from Harrison to Spear to Folsom, then back down Main. That route was better lit; there are more security cameras; there are people from Google and Mozilla leaving work and congregating on the sidewalk at all hours; and Google has a small army of very visible security guards 24/7. And, of course, as I've harped on before in this thread, the dark recesses under the overpass and next to the Portside's parking gate creeped me the fuck out after dark.

If you're passing someone like that on the street give them a wide berth. Don't wear earpods, hang on your phone, etc. or you won't hear someone run up on you.

Never engage with homeless; they think because they live in public that they have the right to just walk up and address you. I totally ignore them and will get 'faggot' 'motherfucker' etc.

Gee, sorry I didn't share my hard-earned money with you, dirtbag.

R359, good point. Homeless people are notoriously reliable and predictable.

Yes R363 — by remarkable coincidence, the only homeless person in the area was hanging out on the route that the only tech millionaire was taking, with no one else around. Sounds random to me!

What a creepy set of videos...he's the only pedestrian seen, all in black, pacing back/forth, wheeling a suitcase (his belongings - homeless?), bending down to the shrubbery. His gait seems to be a younger person 20s, 30s. And the night vision photography may make the premises look brighter than in reality.

Pacing back and forth is easily explained, since a lot of these folks are mentally ill. Although it could certainly be the killer, deranged OR an assassin.

It does look like a homeless person, but then again that’s an easy look for anyone to put on.

Im sure the money he was being paid for the hit was in the suitcase. You don’t think they use cashapp for that sort of thing so you?

ABC is reporting his wallet was not taken and that he was a half mile away from his hotel when found.

I’m surprised the DL is so invested in the demise of an unattractive straight guy.

If the motive was robbery, he must have been robbed of something he didn’t have with him.

[quote]I look forward to the autopsy and other results of the case if only to show how he was at fault. That is, unless the public gets bored and moves to to the next scandal.

So you're saying that if the public gets bored, then you will too, and you won't care any longer about the autopsy (since nobody will care anymore whether you were right or wrong)?

[quote]I’m surprised the DL is so invested in the demise of an unattractive straight guy.

Because the spokesholes of the far Reich are trying to blame the murder of a tech bro on the homeless and liberal politicians. Elon Musk is shitting his diaper over this.

[quote] Instead of conserving his energy after the attack he wanders around as if in search of the nearest Starbucks. He was acting foolish and died a fool's death!

Did you ever stop to consider that he was in shock? That people and animals move around when injured to “get away.”

You’re a self-righteous piece of shit.

Let's face it, part of the reason DL is talking about it is because the guy is attractive

[quote] Lee lived an insulated life, surrounded by lots of white people who think like him and smart Asians who bask in the glow of white superiority. He never thought such a thing would happen to him. They never do.

Do you know him? Or are you envious of the life he lead? Because you sound like the latter. I mean your projection is palpable.

R375 Did you read the title of this post?

He was staying at the 1 Hotel, which is at the corner of the Embarcadero and Mission. There isn't anything between the Embarcadero and the overpass that's occupied at that time of night except the other Portside building, so it doesn't make much sense for him to end up there. I've played this out in my mind and I can't think of one reason I would ever walk up Main St. to get to the hotel.

Walking north from one of bars - Embarcadero

Visiting someone at the Portside - Embarcadero

Got dropped off at the intersection - Embarcadero

If he had been drinking, he easily could have taken a wrong turn and got a little lost. Hasn’t anyone here ever stumbled around drunk late at night temporarily oblivious to their surroundings? I’ve done this in many cities over the years.

I blocked r149 and 45 posts of hate went away.

That's probably because 149 is the perp of the attack.

Where was the exwife? Check the life insurance

His ex still lives in the Bay Area, and they had shared custody of the kids.

[quote] the upscale neighborhood he was in has a reputation for being relatively safe,

The Police say otherwise

The wife doesn't want tp deal with sharing custody. Especially since he moved across the country. It was a hit.

R384, That article is incorrect. Video at 1:44 shows map of murders have been in multiple areas.

It’s so sad this guy was killed. He’s my age.

Daily Mail (ABC gave them credit) had pics of some person dressed all in black pushing a suitcase who was next to where Lee was when he was stabbed and at almost the same time. Probably a homeless schizophrenic. Lee doesn't appear to have been robbed.

The suitcase person looks like a woman to me.

Was she carrying pipe bombs?

Does she have a horseface and resemble the Geico Caveman?

R391, don’t you dare try and pin this on me!

𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐫 𝐒𝐚𝐧 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐨 𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐜𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐛𝐚𝐫 𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐁𝐨𝐛 𝐋𝐞𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡

Carmignani, 53, was leaving his mother’s home at about 7 p.m. in the Marina District when he was accosted by a man waving an industrial metal crowbar, friends of the ex-commissioner told The Post.

San Francisco Police later arrested Garret Doty, 24, who was booked on assault with a deadly weapon.

Joe Alioto-Veronese, a prominent attorney and friend, said Carmignani was at his mother’s home when he noticed Doty and two other transients blocking the driveway.

When Carmignani asked them to move, he was bludgeoned in the back of the head by Doty, which injured the former smoke-eater’s skull and brain.

“[Doty] was actually seen swinging the pipe and walking around the neighborhood after the attack,” Alioto-Veronese said. “It’s dangerous here and the fact that this could happen to a big guy like Don Carmignani, that tells us it could happen to anybody in any neighborhood in San Francisco.”

This situation in SF is fixable but they literally have to round up the homeless and remove them.

The vast majority of murders, in San Francisco and elsewhere, are not committed by the homeless. But you knew that.

[quote]where Lee was when he was stabbed and at almost the same time.

That was most likely the person the police stopped and were talking to that night.

He was stabbed under the bridge, which is about three-quarters down the block from the intersection where the suitcase person was later seen and where the already-stabbed Lee crossed the street to turn back down Main St. before dying.

Suitcase person was walking down Harrison from the direction of Spear St. The way the streets are laid out it would have taken a lot more time to make that loop from the underpass.

I decided to be a nosy bitch and stay at my family’s condo tonight to see what’s going on. It’s still early, but lone dog-walkers are out; the creepy areas now have all of their lights turned on (lights I had no idea even existed); Portside 2’s desk guy is back at his desk, too late; the memorial flowers are now circling the tree but still look a little sparse; and I only saw two homeless people.

These last two violent attacks were by homeless. If that’s not a pattern I don’t know what is.

Ah, yes, two whole attacks in a city with 800,000+ people. A real epidemic.

That's nasty. He's lucky to still be with us.

Thank you from r396 - our man on the ground in SF. Do we have representatives in all the major cities across the English speaking world? For on the spot follow ups to bearking news items?

[quote] Elon Musk is shitting his diaper over this.

No it's not, he's tweeted about it blaming the lawlessness of SF.

R266, I agree with you, 100%.

R399 r400 r401 (and i have so few people blocked!!)

Never mind, I didn't have them blocked, it's just this crappy site that expects people to pay to produce its content is so fucking slow that those posts took forever to show up.

Nothing could have saved him except immediate professional medical help after he was stabbed and even that didn't guarantee he'd survive. People who are about to die know they are about to die and he knew. He was panicking. My guess is he was stabbed in a main artery.. No amount of pressure would have kept him from bleeding out. He didn't stand a chance whether he sat still, walked around, had assistance from some random car, or waited precious minutes for the EMTs. Probably a crazy as nothing was stolen. Unacceptable and egregious but that's the world we live in. Even him.

The GOP is sucking the money out of liberal cities with the last tax law and yet it complains when cities can afford to deal with their homeless problem or hire more cops

[quote] The GOP is sucking the money out of liberal cities with the last tax law

California is a high-tax state, with some of the steepest sales tax, personal income tax and corporate tax rates in the United States.

I heard a bit about this on Smerconish this morning on CNN. One of the commenters said all people want are clean, safe streets and good schools.

It a simplification but it's also a warning sign. So often government seems to governing for a section of the population and just regards everybody else as there to pay the bill. That's how crazy people like Trump and Toronto's crack smoking mayor get elected from time to time.

Time to bring back the mental institutions.

Most killers aren't mentally ill.

[quote]Time to bring back the mental institutions.

Mental institutions is appropriate for the “queers” and theys/thems, not killers. Life in prison is appropriate for killers.

*are

R411, conservatives who pick on people based on their gender identity belong in mental homes. Especially ones who don't have the self-awareness to realize their fellow conservatives think gays belong in mental institutions

I love how r388 comes breathlessly into the thread like he's giving us breaking news.

[quote]DM has pictures of a 'shadowy figure' with a roller suitcase

Did it have a wonky wheel?

[quote]Or are you envious of the life he lead?

Oh, dear!

r372, I took his comment to mean if people got bored and moved onto something else that we wouldn't see the results of the autopsy as, by that time, it wouldn't be newsworthy.

[quote][R411], conservatives who pick on people based on their gender identity belong in mental homes. Especially ones who don't have the self-awareness to realize their fellow conservatives think gays belong in mental institutions.

Same with progressives who mock and demean ex-gays and transracialists.

Aw, are you mad that someone made fun of your idol Milo for being an ex-gay?

Sort of a bizarre coincidence how all of these executives with apps like this are dying suddenly….

And yet Travis Kalanick still walks among us....

Not to steal someone else's thunder, but this was brought up in the thread about the gay guy getting attacked in Hell's Kitchen and I find it very interesting.

It's interesting how many posts there are here saying that this guy was basically asking to be murdered because he dared to be outside at 2:30.

No one is holding the Hell's Kitchen guy to the same insane standard. I'm honestly not quite sure why. Is it just because people hate billionaires?

Yes, R422. Hatred and envy.

Has anyone considered that it was either an intentional murder or just some random robbery? That's my theory!

I took one more walk down the block before leaving, and this time I noticed that there’s a camera on the bridge pillar where the blood trail starts and the knife was found.

Also, there are rumors that he was walking toward the Embarcadero when it happened, which makes a lot more sense. So I take back what I said about not understanding someone using Main St. to get to the hotel.

I was under the impression that he had been seen picked up on camera going in the opposite direction prior to the stabbing. Maybe he was; maybe he wasn’t. But it does make more sense this way.

A random robbery. Maybe perpetrator didn't take much, if anything, due to panic, need to get away fast. If it was a hit, how'd they know Bob Lee was going to stay an extra day, per news reports?

If it was a hit, it had to be someone in his inner circle who knew where he was walking that night, or lured him to a location where he’d have to take a certain route back to his hotel (or somewhere else — to score drugs maybe?) I didn’t hear any reports of where he was or who he was with before his murder, which is very strange.

They seem to have no leads.

Why do we think it was a hit?

Why couldn't he have stayed an extra night to meet up with someone - either a lover, drug dealer, debt collector, etc. - and things turned ugly? Seems more plausible then assassins in the night.

His wallet and phone weren’t taken. The only thing missing was a Manila envelope he was carrying.

[Quote] California is a high-tax state, with some of the steepest sales tax, personal income tax and corporate tax rates in the United States.

And much of those taxes are sucked out of the state by federal tax law to help fund red states

R430, I had nothing to do with it.

R422 The guy in NYC was a regular person not super rich. Lee was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Regardless of what he was doing, since it was so late at night he could've afforded to take a car to his hotel/residence. Lee had already spoken openly about his concerns of crime and homelessness in SF. Unless it was lip service to disguise a tax motivated relocation to Miami, one would expect Lee to heed his own advice.

Money affords not only luxuries and creature comforts, but also another level of safety and security for which the average person may not be able or willing to afford. For example, Ring cameras (plus the subscription service and app) are popular, but I don't use one. Instead, I live in a luxury doorman building, so my packages don't get stolen and I don't have to deal with maintenance issues. In any event, Lee's death is a lesson to us all about the basics of safety when living and traveling around a major city especially after dark. All the people who take offense to comments espousing that sort of practical thinking are destined to repeat his mistakes.

He was a tech guy, why did he not call 911 on his cellphone?

Wednesday, April 05, 2023 Blind Item #8

Apparently this global health organization didn't like what this A list tech guy was going to say at a conference about his time working with them early on in the pandemic. Now, he is dead. I am sure it is a coincidence.

R434 just woke up from a long nap.

I find it fascinating having just stayed around the corner for a weekend. Definitely not a place I would walk alone at night. Castro is fine, even parts of Mission - but not there. I get that he was probably wasted. Been there and made the same stupid mistakes - but got lucky. No, people shouldn’t be killed and yes, there is a problem with mentally ill and addicted homeless men in SF and West Coast generally. What pisses me off is Musk and this guy Lee blaming it on “liberal” leaders of cities - the simplistic reduction of problems is the hallmark of conservativism. Let them all move to Miami and see how perfect life is there.

I'm surprised that so many people wonder why he didn't use his cell phone, why he was walking around when he should have been staying still, etc.

When you lose a great deal of blood quite suddenly, you go into shock. People in shock are often confused and may do things that don't seem to make sense. They're not in their right minds. This man was bleeding to death very rapidly. Dying people seldom have the presence of mind to make smart, well-informed decisions.

If you just hate billionaires, fine. Go ahead and say he deserved to die because he was too rich. But don't act like he brought this on himself by going outside, or by failing to follow the right protocol as his blood pressure plummeted to zilch over nada.

That’s why you should always carry backup blood. Know your blood type too.

R435 Is that what Enty pulled out of his Freeper ass? That the WHO had him murdered? Good lord. More likely his ex or fellow tech bros who wanted to inherit his share of CashApp. At least that’s a plausible motive. Even a random vagrant killing him for no discernible reason is more likely than him discovering a global conspiracy while developing an app for the WHO.

[quote] the simplistic reduction of problems is the hallmark of conservativism.

R437 Do you have a complex solution to this problem?

Psychiatric treatment, forced when necessary, affordable housing to minimize the number on the street, employment for those who don’t fit into the normal world, subsidies where necessary to house and treat the mentally Ill and addicted. “More cops” and “arrest them all” seems to be the right wing answer - which is simplistic and illegal.

In other San Francisco news ....

R438 Lee did use his cell phone to call 911. The video shows this. The dispatch call also includes that they had a lock on his location via his cell phone and were on their way. This seems to be too much for people here to grasp, but common sense dictates that he shouldn't have been walking around alone, in the dark, at 2:30am on a Tuesday, in a sketchy area of town. How could anything go wrong?!

1/2 billionaire made a horrible choice that morning, wasn't thinking straight.

If you are mentally ill and/or violent, living in the streets, stealing for a living, selling and/or using drugs, can't hold a job or an apartment... you need to be euthanized.

r443 That's why I always make sure I'm at a negative balance. Just in case.

His death was painful and terrifying. Truly eerie video footage. Poor guy !

R443, ATMs have limits on how much money can be withdrawn within a 24 hour period.

What do you think was in envelope that he was carrying? Will They catch the murderer?

He obviously didn’t deserve but it’s stupid to walk around late when you know SF is dangerous.

R451. SF isn't that dangerous, he was just unlucky.

[quote]What do you think was in envelope that he was carrying?

A stack of notebook paper with "I will not fall for trolls" written on every line.

Where’s the footage of stabbing?

If it was truly random by a homeless guy, I don't think DL can solve it.

“What do you think was in envelope that he was carrying?”

The Claybourne Elder cock pics that have been scrubbed from the Internet.

But the Datalounge Detective Agency can solve anything!

R53 No one thinks an Asian person was responsible lol.

It wasn't a hit.

If a 'hit man' is going to kill someone, they're going to kill them, not stab them once and hope they bleed out. It would be too risky. It would only take one little thing to go wrong (or right, if you're the victim) such as help being there immediately, you didn't hit a vein, artery, or major organ, so it's nothing more than a superficial wound, and hundreds of other factors that would have to go perfectly to ensure he died.

No, a hit ensures the person is dead.

R433, very good points, my friend. That's why I posed the question.

[quote]his seems to be too much for people here to grasp, but common sense dictates that he shouldn't have been walking around alone, in the dark, at 2:30am on a Tuesday, in a sketchy area of town.

JFC, here we go again. It was not "a sketchy area of town."

Ever hear of "sundown towns"?

[quote]Sundown towns were all-white communities that banned nonwhite people after dark by laws, violence, or intimidation

It seems that a lot of people in this thread approve of the idea, just with a modern update:

Law-abiding people better off the streets after dark, or they take their lives into their hands. If they get beaten or killed, well, they've got no one to blame but themselves. They knew the rules.

Is this progressivism? The streets belong to the mobs after dark?

[quote]Apparently this global health organization didn't like what this A list tech guy was going to say at a conference about his time working with them early on in the pandemic. Now, he is dead. I am sure it is a coincidence.

This is laughably lazy even by conspiracy theory standards.

[quote] The streets belong to the mobs after dark?

Not this again. First off, the retarded don't rule the night. They don't rule it. Nobody does. And they don't run in packs. And while they may not be as strong as apes, don't lock eyes with 'em, don't do it. Puts 'em on edge. They might go into berzerker mode; come at you like a whirling dervish, all fists and elbows. You might be screaming "No, no, no" and all they hear is "Who wants cake?" Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.

^^Um, what?

Nobody wants to eat your cake, Wilford.

R464, I love you

R461, At 2:30 AM on a weeknight it is/was.

It was probably a homeless paranoid schizophrenic. There are so many on the streets it'll be hard to find the guilty one unless he or she starts ranting and raving about the murder - which is possible.

That area is sketchy late at night, especially by the Bay Bridge. It’s sad he moved because he hated SF and felt unsafe, then he comes back for a visit and proved his own point. I would be shocked if the police solve this crime. It’s been several days and they haven’t said anything.

^ Once again, Miami is more violent than San Francisco

Can't reason with Republicans

If you lived in SF, you would know that people feel unsafe. Years of crazy homeless who are now more violent, cash and grabs in stores, car break-ins and shit on the street. It’s a giant failure of leadership and the problems are escalating.

R461 The overall neighborhood is seen as relatively safe, but the area in which he was stabbed via the bridge is known to be less well lit, dangerous, and best avoided after dark. They've since added lights and cameras to the spot of the attack. Every neighborhood has those liminal, transitional, border spaces by bridges and roads where trouble can lurk. It's that classic horror movie scene where the white person is staring down a dark tunnel, hallway, alley, bridge, or road and should turn back, but doesn't and pays the price.

R472, well the millions of tourists who go there every year don't think it's unsafe.

I don't get tiny-dicked guys who are scared of big cities. I've gone out walking at night in cities with way more violent crime than San Francisco and nothing happened to me.

There are homicides happening in all the red states right now, but you aren't claiming that those places are violent hellholes because of one murder.

Did any of you fucks say no one should go to Moscow, ID because of those sorority girls being murdered?

All is well in Dear Progressive Leader’s Utopia. Dissenters will be cancelled.

R475, if you want to see dissenters being canceled, move to Tennessee. Or Florida.

The hard left can only compare themselves to the hard right.

All Republicans are "the hard right"

Including Datalounge fave Liz Cheney? ^

As a former full-time resident of one of the towers on the 300 block, who still stays in the condo frequently, I have an opinion on the sketchiness of the area. I'll probably get it from both sides, but that's okay.

As I've said, the main place that gave me the heebie-jeebies was the area from the intersection of Bryant and Main to just past the bridge overpass. On the north side of the street, there were dark recesses (now brightly lit when I walked by on Friday night) on either side of the Portside's parking gate. On the south side, the short stretch of Bryant along the pump station is dark and spooky.

If I was walking from the Embarcadero, I would make a loop and walk on Spear St. specifically to avoid that area. The thing is, getting stabbed to death wasn't something that ever crossed my mind; for me, it was just that one area (and there are a few others, but I never had reason to go to them) and that was because I didn't want to get mugged.

The thing to keep in mind is that the general vicinity is overflowing with Google and Mozilla employees who are viewed as easy prey—nerds with couple of phones, a laptop or two in their backpack, sometimes a nice watch, new AirPods, and, as a bonus, cash in their pockets. It's very easy to pick one off and hop on the bridge.

There's an international fencing operation shipping the items I listed above out of the country in bulk. As long as they're in business, there's going an army of low-level street criminals who go out and procure those items in return for a commission.

There is private security, but it's a large area and they can't be everywhere at once. Since the YouTube shooting, Google has made their security very in-your-face. They're out on the sidewalk day and night, but they're on Spear St.

Homeless people do walk through, but they're not erecting tents or doing the things they do in other parts of the city. People in the area aren't buying drugs from street dealers, so there's none of that.

So is the neighborhood as a whole sketchy? A few places are; most are not. I moved because I wanted a yard and more space.

dear, ther is big crime in ev city, nyc/philly/ chicago/baltimore are worse than frisco. gimme a break, its such a media pile on. creepy

what if it was a pissed off ex lover ?

R482 Considering it was a stab to the heart, quite possibly!

He was stabbed in heart ? ☝🏼. I thought abdomen or chest ?

Apparently his 911 call had more info in end of call that was not made public due to the investigation. Hopefully Bob gave some details on assault

The assailant ☝🏼☝🏼

Sources said stabbed twice in the chest. If it hit the heart I think he would have died instantly. This is so gruesome and sad.

Play silly games...

We need a psychic to solve this!

R487, Indeed. He never could have gotten up twice from the sidewalk with a stab wound in his heart, and blood would have been gushing from him.

Do the unhoused still defecate in between cars in the street?

Asking for a friend

[quote] all they hear is "Who wants cake?" Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.

The cake is a lie.

100% there is more to the story. But 1/2 billion dollars pays a lot of lawyers and PR people to ENSURE any damaging info is not publicized. We may never get the full story because - as with every story about the super rich - it can be buried with enough money. High paid lawyers exist to make sure the city officials never make public information that would be revealed in the normal course of a high profile murder like this. This is a case study in how the rich, especially the super rich, in this country have a whole different system of “justice” than most of us.

R491, pretty sure every single big city in America has homeless people. Shock! Or are you still operating under the delusional that Miami and all those big cities in the red states are like Mayberry or something

This would make a great movie...

Murder's legal in Texas as long as you're a racist and you kill someone Greg Abbott doesn't like

OMG, crime is out of control in Orlando!

[quote]I moved because I wanted a yard and more space.

Where did you move to?

[quote] Four people are dead, including a child, in an Easter Sunday shooting in Orlando

Orlando police officers responded to a home near Parramore Avenue and Grand Street, near Grand Avenue Park, around 2:25 a.m. regarding a domestic violence incident, according to a news release.

Shortly after officers arrived, a man, later identified as 𝐿𝑎𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑣𝑖𝑠 𝑇𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑟 𝐷𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑦, came out of the house and began shooting at the officers, police said. Those officers returned fire, killing the man.

Inside the home, officers found three people dead: 70-year-old Carole Fumore, 14-year-old Damionna Reed, and 8-year-old Cameron Bouie.

Maybe he tried to stage a hate crime against himself for being a wealthy white man in the lawless liberal city of S.F., but accidentally hit a major artery, which took him by surprise. Did he tell 911 that the assailant wearing a BLM hat and screamed, “This is ANTIFA country, you cracker!” Were their any muscular Nigerians in the area?

^^ “were there any…” I meant.

God, I hate 'whaddabout' posters.

R482 Possibly. Or a romantic tryst gone horribly bad. This case may never be solved.

It's been bugging me for days who the tech guy looks like. It's Paul Holes cold-case investigator dude!

Bump don’t let this case die

If it was a vagrant, they’ll never find him or her, because Lee must not have given a description to the 911 dispatcher, otherwise law enforcement would have released it publicly, because a killer targeting random citizens is a public safety matter.

On the other hand, if it was someone who knew him and there are suspects, law enforcement won’t release that info because it could jeopardize the investigation. If that’s the case, it will take weeks, even months to gather enough evidence to make an arrest.

I doubt it was someone he knew.

I think it was a stranger, too.

What have they got--a "figure" in a dark coat with a suitcase--both probably in the garbage now.

The only people who might know the suspect are highly hesitant to talk to the police--and many are not in their right minds.

I'm not a detective--but I would guess that random, senseless violence is the most difficult to solve. Who benefited from the crime? Nobody.

R507 Why? Statistically speaking, you're more likely to be murdered by someone you know as opposed to somebody random.

How many homeless people does the average half-billionaire tech bro know?

This reminds me a little of that case we talked about a few years back on DL--guy in California goes missing, had made friends with a very troubled homeless dude. The police eventually found the guy's body folded up in a an attic space or something--never charged anyone, but all signs pointed to homeless dude.

Christopher Woitel

R511. Well it only takes knowing 1, if that 1 is a murderer.

Assuming he WAS murdered by a homeless guy.

You'd think there would be more cameras. Then if it were a homeless schizophrenic, which it probably was, they could find him/her easily because they always wear the same clothes, and hang around the same areas, and use the same carts, and go to the same libraries etc.

I thought people of this kind of wealth always travel with private security? At least the ones like this guy who are semi-public figures.

I'll never be an angel I'll never be a saint, it's true I'm too busy surviving Whether it's heaven or hell I'm gonna be living to tell

[Pre-Chorus] So, here's my story (My story) No risk, no glory (No glory)

[Verse 2] I'll never be an angel I'll never be a saint, it's true I'm too busy surviving Whether it's heaven or hell I'm gonna be living to tell

[Pre-Chorus] So, here's my question (My question) Does your criticism (Criticism) Have you caught up in what you cannot see? Well, if you give me respect Then you'll know what to expect

[Chorus] A little up and down, and all around It's all about survival Up and down and all around It's all about survival

R515, top-tier celebrities have security but lesser celebrities and the "merely" very wealthy frequently do not.

I know someone whose handsome husband made hundreds of millions from a game changing tech invention. He hasn't had a day job in decades. She works and he's a stay at home dad cashing mad checks. No security guards. They live in a suburban mansion not an urban neighborhood surrounded by crime and homelessness.

If it were an intentional, premeditated murder, the killer would have made sure Lee died. He would not have let him wander around the streets, waiving down cars and using his phone to call for help.

"And America is now blood and tears instead of milk and honey... We learned to our amazement, the untold tale of scandal... Democracy, liberty, and justice were revolutionary codenames... What does Webster say about soul? All I want is a good home and a wife And a children, and some food to feed them every night Who will survive in America?"

Gay tech guy lives!

[quote]Where did you move to?

Stop trying to change the subject.

Just down the street from the killing, Whole Foods Market shuts a store due to "deteriorating street conditions around drug use and crime."

“We are closing our Trinity location only for the time being,” a Whole Foods spokesperson said in a statement. “If we feel we can ensure the safety of our team members in the store, we will evaluate a reopening of our Trinity location.”

R519. Depends. I've watched enough crappy crime shows to know that not every premeditated murder is either planned or executed with perfection.

People are morons.

Could easily be a crime of passion of course.

R523, that Whole Foods store was a major selling point in attracting potential tenants to that new luxury building. Without the grocery store, convincing people to move there and pay the high rents will be a much tougher sell.

[quote]a "figure" in a dark coat with a suitcase

A rolling suitcase! With a wonky wheel.

R525, Whole Foods delivers. Where’s the next nearest store?

Your friend is a "them", r 217?

R217

This Whole Foods opened a year ago and was their flagship store. Lots of mayhem and chaos inside. Fights. They had 250 of the plastic carry baskets for shoppers and all 250 were stolen. I don't know if it's because social media makes everything feel closer or because mass shooting and classrooms of little kids are being murdered and the powers that be won't remedy it because there is so much greed but this country is starting to feel very dangerous. You know when you say "that wouldn't happen to me, only other people have that stuff happen to them"? Well now I think it can happen to me. Just one grocery store, one concert, one movie theatre, one bank. That's all it takes. Who's to say me or any one of us won't be there?

A neighborhood losing their best grocery market is seen as a big loss for real estate interests. Nobody wants to live in a neighborhood with limited options for good groceries.

So, still we have no new information and people are yammering about a Whole Foods in the middle of the Tenderloin that's closing.

So weird we have no updates

Mayor London Breed’s spokesperson, Jeff Cretan, said police and the mayor’s office have worked with Whole Foods for months over public safety and would continue to engage with the company over the future of the site.

“𝑃𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑎𝑓𝑒𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑀𝑎𝑦𝑜𝑟 𝐵𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑑’𝑠 𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑖𝑡𝑦’𝑠 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘 𝑎𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑚𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑓𝑒𝑒𝑙 𝑠𝑎𝑓𝑒,” Cretan said in a statement.

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I thought reparations to all the San Francisco slaves was her top priority

I finally remembered who he looked like in that photo, Leo from "Charmed"!

Why can’t Alcatraz be used to house the homeless?

Fascinating story, and thread. He was a fucking idiot to be wandering round at 2.30am, in any major city that is a dangerous action. But the people defending him are deluded. He did everything wrong.

R532, what else is there to yammer about? Until there’s an update, people have said all they can.

For the same reason it can't be used to house the criminal: it's very expensive to run a prison on an island.

It would be better to reclaim a ghost town, put a little money into (trailers, etc) and move all the social service agencies that are currently in SF out there. Also, move the people out there as well.

Will there be a celebrity filled memorial service?

Who says they have to run it? Just let the homeless rule themselves.

Homeless trapped on an island, great idea! It's called NYC.

R541 Why stop there? Set up cameras all over Alcatraz Island and have viewers bet on and award their favourites when they score a kill! Last one standing gets to do it all again with a new intake of homeless nothing people.

[quote] If it was a vagrant, they’ll never find him or her, because Lee must not have given a description to the 911 dispatcher, otherwise law enforcement would have released it publicly, because a killer targeting random citizens is a public safety matter.

If the assailant was black, forget it. The media in NYC will never use race as a descriptor when there’s a dangerous person on the loose. They will show video/screenshots from surveillance cameras, but they won’t say it. Which is totally stupid if they’re describing height, weight and clothing.

Extra appalling is social justice governments so belligerent and sanctimonious about flushing great cities down the toilet to feed their self shame.

Nothing gets the racists and sock puppest out like crime in SF>

[quote]So weird we have no updates

Still dead.

[quote] So weird we have no updates

Catching one specific fish out of their San Francisco school can't be easy

I think you’re right about it being a fish, R548.

One of London Breed’s thousands of homeless did it.

And London Breed is trying to say it wasn’t that by saying “you will be surprised” when the details come out. I bet the dead guys lawyers are firing big guns at her to try to shut her up from talking about the sordid details. DL called this right at the outset. Something more to it.

There’s a video of a recent lecture he gave while clearly coked-out, which gives some clues about what he was up to while wandering alone on the streets at 2:30 A.M.

Major development . . .

Not a vagrant

Looks like police arrested a colleague for the murder. The genuine DL sleuths had this figured out within 25 posts. You can look at this thread and identify all the alt-right trash because they're the ones blaming it on SF and its mayor and its homeless and Blue State-whatever.

Another article about the arrest.

Was it a business dispute, drunken/ drug rage, or a lover's spat?

Nima Momeni. Iranian born.

It's like, so sad when cute people die. I mean, wow!

Buyt what about the 500 posts that yemmered about homeless people, crime in the streets, etc.? Eill the trolls offer a mea culpa?

This guy:

All of the victim blamers on here were just sooooo sure some scary vagrant lurking in the shadows decided to slice him up because he was dumb enough to be outside late at night. Now I guess they will start talking about violent Iranis and how they were definitely fucking...

Lovers spat?

Well, the papers showed us the security photo of a figure in black dragging along a suitcase as the suspicious person.

This guy stabbed him after he got out of his car. (The two were in the suspects car together.)

What is "Iranis"?

And now let’s see if Fox and the “SF is a cesspool” right wing media breathlessly cover this as representative of all that SF represents. Or do they decide to focus on the multiple murders in Texas after Abbott declared a gun free-for-all or Indiana or Missouri as symbolic of the cesspool of poverty and guns that they are.

Great. Now his pal Jake Shields will use the beginning of [italic]The Exorcist[/italic] as evidence of a hit by the Iraqi division of Killary’s Kid-Konsumin’ Koven and how it was all predicted in a Q-drop.

Love that we're finally getting some updates as it felt like we were starting to lose focus on this thread.

It's as they say, Momeni mo' problems. A deliciously gay lovers' spat aside, I bet it was more likely that Lee was killed over money. He probably refused to give the killer access of some kind. No job opportunity/promotion, no seat on the board, no insider information, or no more investor funding for his company. In short, no mo' money for Momeni!

When faced with the prospect of paring down, Momeni Leaned In to Lee (thanks, Sheryl)... with a paring knife! This is not how I thought the Clue reboot would go: Mr. Brown with the Knife in the Car. They say poison is a women's weapon. Well, if guns belong to straight men, then knives belong to gays and the Old World.

I do think it is sad Lee was killed by someone he knew. You know that was an awful surprise not only to be stabbed, but then to be ignored (by Dan!) and then bleed out and die. Terrible!

The hardened urbanite in me still partially blames Lee for being out that late. Instead of prioritizing professional boundaries and being home at a normal hour/spending time with family, he decided to muck around and cavort as part of the bro culture in tech. No proper business in a lab or conference room was being done at 2:30am. Alas, it's always the ones you know!

Finally, to get DL real for a Momeni Moment, you really have to watch out for that notorious Arab anger. It'll come out when you least expect it. Doesn't matter if they're handsome, light-skinned, well educated, smiley, or have a big thick cock that'll bust your hole open as desired - Arab men are dangerous pit bulls whose repressed cultures have bred into their blood a love of young, twink pussy and and rapid-fire, lethal, Old World anger that comes from the desert sands of time. Unfortunately, they're good for a hot fuck, but nothing more. There's a reason they're cast as villains and are quietly called sand n-gg-rs - they really wild out! Not racist, just saying. Carry on!

R567 Iranians aren't Arabs but don't let that stop you and your unfiltered rambling.

R567 Middle East, Western Asia, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Arabs, Muslims, etc. Whatever, it all boils down to the desert-laden anger that runs deep in the cultures and across that whole dusty region.

Gay assignation gone way wrong.

I am one of those persons who thought this was a random knife attack probably by someone homeless who was mentally ill. I am also not an alt-right conservative. But I lived in the Bay Area and I've seen with my own eyes the area deteriorate and the feeling of lawlessness permeate the community. I also know two people personally who were murdered by transients. One at the Bart and one in their workplace. Unfortunately it's the perception that matters but the fear is real. Glad I don't live there anymore.

This either means that Tehran was either canceled or renewed for Season 3 on AppleTv+. What say Asghar Farhadi? Does this negatively impact funding for Iranian films or has he just found his ticket to a third Oscar?

San Francisco averages maybe 40 murders a year. For a big city, that is not a lot. And yet liar r571 is trying to claim he knows two different people who were murdered. I don't know anyone who was murdered and I live in a city with a higher murder rate than San Francisco

Fuck the people trying to blame the homeless. Or saying it was a "fish"

[quote]murdered by transients. One at the Bart

BART!!! Why, you little....

R568 Unfiltered rambling is the bread and butter of DL!

Is the killer trans? Are there pronouns on his Linkedin?

Will this be played at the funeral?

Start a thread titled "Ugly Tech Guy Dies."

5 replies.

Momeni decided to engage in the ancient practice of Bob-letting. My favorite puns so far are: Needy Nima, Murder by Momeni, Mo'meni Mo' Problems, The Persian Pierce, One Momeni in Time, One Momeni, Please, and Nina Bo'Nima Momeni Brown.

Many hobo fuckers on this thread.

See Elon, no need to wet your diapers over being attacked by homeless lunatics rampaging in the urban centers of America. After all, they were not the ones who booed you off stage, right? You’re way more likely to be taken out by someone in your inner circle than a rando on a crack binge, but being a man of statistics, you already know that.

Hey everyone!!

He was actually murdered by another tech CEO! And you guys thought it was somebody off the street!

Nope! Everything is fine in San Francisco.

MEGAN just found her match!

Here we go, Meghan again!

Why are all the elected officials of San Francisco black? The black population of San Francisco is only 5%.

Washington Post reporter at the press conference: “We’ve spoken to people who have indicated that the motivation for the attack was a personal entanglement between Mr. Lee and a member of Mr. Momeni’s family.”

It was someone he knew!

[quote]“We’ve spoken to people who have indicated that the motivation for the attack was a personal entanglement between Mr. Lee and a member of Mr. Momeni’s family.”

Another "entanglement." See what you started, Jada?

Who could play him?

I'm sure Elon and everyone at Fox will be issuing apologies very soon.

Violda Davis IS Cute Tech Guy.

R588 Too bad there's no Conscious Unstabbing.

[quote] “We’ve spoken to people who have indicated that the motivation for the attack was a personal entanglement between Mr. Lee and a member of Mr. Momeni’s family.”

So Momeni was avenging for what Bob did to his family member?

Retributive Middle Eastern clan culture justice takes down another Caucasian. When will these white boys learn not to play in the sand?

Bob reportedly went to a bar with a friend that night and left at around 12:30 AM to visit his girlfriend for a few hours. I’m not sure how he ended up in a car with Momeni. Maybe the girlfriend was the “family member” they were having a dispute over?

[quote]So Momeni was avenging for what Bob did to his family member?

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!

Up until now, I've ignored this thread, but I knew it was going to turn out to be something personal. It always is when the victim is very wealthy. It's never random, esp., with a knife.

[quote]Retributive Middle Eastern clan culture justice takes down another Caucasian.

As opposed to the countless wars and fucked up foreign policy based on lies, hate and greed over decades with Caucasians at the helm which never hurt anyone, right?

The Daily Fail reports:

[quote]Momeni is related to top Bay Area plastic surgeon Dr Dino Elyassnia, who is believed to be married to the suspected killer's sister Khazar.

Girls, I think we need a part 2 of this thread!

[quote]I'm sure Elon and everyone at Fox will be issuing apologies very soon.

That would require basic decency. which is non-existent with that Afrikkkaner scum and that parasitic propaganda network.

SAY HIS NAME:: NIMA!!