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Eisenhower was white adjacent.

Mixed race. Quadroon. Octoroon. Whatever. It's obvious in most pictures from his boyhood through his 20s.

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by Anonymousreply 113April 14, 2023 2:42 PM

And if they can't find an African American ancestor then he was part Romani or Sephardic-Arab Jewish or something.

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by Anonymousreply 1April 1, 2023 12:32 PM

He was a cute but intense looking kid.

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by Anonymousreply 2April 1, 2023 12:35 PM

Wtf are you talking about?

by Anonymousreply 3April 1, 2023 12:39 PM

Good looking young man

by Anonymousreply 4April 1, 2023 12:41 PM

I'm simply amused by the possibility and cover up.

by Anonymousreply 5April 1, 2023 12:41 PM

R4 yes agreed. OP here. I'm not saying its a problem. He's gorgeous in this pic.

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by Anonymousreply 6April 1, 2023 12:42 PM

Who gives a fuck OP?

by Anonymousreply 7April 1, 2023 12:45 PM

White historians get pressed whenever someone mentions possible black ancestry of their sacred cows. Don’t let them be gay or black.

Anything is possible.

by Anonymousreply 8April 1, 2023 2:02 PM

I would have no problem if Eisenhower were of mixed race. I'm not even American. Having said that. it's extraordinarily easy to manipulate the colors in a photo if you have the proper software and a black and white picture is the easiest of all.

If you view color photos of Ike, you will see a very, very white man.

by Anonymousreply 9April 1, 2023 2:43 PM

R9 I thought about that but so many photos online of his young years are the same. They aren't doctored.

by Anonymousreply 10April 1, 2023 4:01 PM

Here is Dwight as a cadet at West Point.

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by Anonymousreply 11April 1, 2023 4:03 PM

Ike & Mamie and their first son.

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by Anonymousreply 12April 1, 2023 4:06 PM

His mother's family is mostly unknown and often suspected to have been mixed race, because of Ida's appearance, but no one really knows for sure.

by Anonymousreply 13April 1, 2023 4:08 PM

Maybe something about B&W emulsion and Ikes face and colouring just produces this effect. He looks like a like skinned black man in the pic at R12.

by Anonymousreply 14April 1, 2023 4:09 PM

He also had a mullet.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 1, 2023 4:10 PM

He certainly was a looker.

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by Anonymousreply 16April 1, 2023 4:12 PM

He also liked to pose from time to time.

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by Anonymousreply 17April 1, 2023 4:15 PM

Maybe he ate too much of Mamie's fudge.

by Anonymousreply 18April 1, 2023 4:18 PM

If he really were part black, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Michael Beschloss, Douglas Brinkley, Jon Meacham and other presidential historians would have uncovered that, and it would have been a major story. Eisenhower would have replaced Obama as America’s first black president.

by Anonymousreply 19April 1, 2023 4:19 PM

Between his young images and R17’s pic of him in sheer socks, I never thought I’d find myself getting hot over Eisenhower.

by Anonymousreply 20April 1, 2023 4:22 PM

R9 R14 It’s not simply skin color. Facial features can suggest all sorts of backgrounds. I’m black and I look black. My father was pasty with Eisenhower’s coloring but unmistakably black based on his features. His siblings were light-skinned, wavy-haired. One of my aunts had blond hair and blue eyes, another had hazel eyes. One married another light-skinned black man and had sons who looked like Eisenhower in his youth. @ R17 he looks like my cousin Johnny.

by Anonymousreply 21April 1, 2023 4:31 PM

People have speculated that his mother was mixed race, based on her appearance, but it hasn't (yet) been proven.

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by Anonymousreply 22April 1, 2023 4:35 PM

Not black. Trust.

by Anonymousreply 23April 1, 2023 4:38 PM

Where's that professor who does the PBS show about ancestry? And frankly, why would there need to be "speculation" when DNA tests exist? Test his descendants.

by Anonymousreply 24April 1, 2023 4:39 PM

R24 good point.

by Anonymousreply 25April 1, 2023 4:41 PM

Simply another Melungeon?

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by Anonymousreply 26April 1, 2023 4:42 PM

R19 I think that they would have covered it up.

by Anonymousreply 27April 1, 2023 4:42 PM

A pretty high percentage of working class white Southerners have a black ancestor.

by Anonymousreply 28April 1, 2023 4:51 PM

Not just the working classes r28.

by Anonymousreply 29April 1, 2023 4:52 PM

As my dear old grandpa used to say "Theres a n***** in that woodpile" . Its obvious in his younger pics. Yes,my grandpa was racist,but he was born in 1901 in Ga . 36 years after the civil war had ended. Emotions still ran very high. He was actually a dear,sweet man but a product of his upbringing.

by Anonymousreply 30April 1, 2023 6:24 PM

Mrs. Eisenhower, is your son MULATTO?

by Anonymousreply 31April 1, 2023 6:31 PM

He was an affable man who despite a lack of combat experience was put at the head of military operations in Europe during WWII. He seemed to be well liked.

by Anonymousreply 32April 1, 2023 6:34 PM

Licorice lips like candy!

I keep my cocoa handy!

I have such a sweet tooth when it comes to love!

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by Anonymousreply 33April 1, 2023 6:35 PM

Once I tried a diet

Of quiet rest, no sweets!

But I went nearly crazy

Then I went clearly crazy

Because I really craved for the chocolate flavored treats!

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by Anonymousreply 34April 1, 2023 6:36 PM

Eisenhower = "iron tusk" in German (eisenhauer)?

by Anonymousreply 35April 1, 2023 6:37 PM

Er, English*

by Anonymousreply 36April 1, 2023 6:37 PM

He looks like the descendant of ordinary, working-class Germans with fleshy features. 🤷🏻

by Anonymousreply 37April 1, 2023 6:38 PM

Oh, look, I found this picture of George Washington as a little black boy 😏

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by Anonymousreply 38April 1, 2023 6:43 PM

And here's Thomas Jefferson's rainbow family 😳

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by Anonymousreply 39April 1, 2023 6:46 PM

My Ike was not colored!

by Anonymousreply 40April 1, 2023 6:49 PM

SMH OP

He was TAN in your photos, which, as noted, are likely retouched badly.

Look at color photos of him from the 40s and 50s.

He is white AF

by Anonymousreply 41April 1, 2023 6:52 PM

This is actually far more fascinating: the only states that voted for Adlai Stevenson in 1952 are all deep deep red states today

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by Anonymousreply 42April 1, 2023 6:53 PM

@r40 Oh, Mamie, everyone knows you like them colored manservants 😏

by Anonymousreply 43April 1, 2023 6:53 PM

^^With the exception of GA, that is

by Anonymousreply 44April 1, 2023 6:53 PM

OP, I never thought of it before you mentioned it, but now that you mention it, he does look as though he has Black ancestry.

by Anonymousreply 45April 1, 2023 6:56 PM

OP here. I never noticed it either. But I happened to stumble upon the photo at my OP post and I was intrigued.

by Anonymousreply 46April 1, 2023 7:02 PM

I can see it in the younger photos. Not so much as an older man. But I wouldn’t rule it out. He was quite handsome when young.

by Anonymousreply 47April 1, 2023 7:02 PM

His beautiful lips, which seem to have disappeared over his 20s.

by Anonymousreply 48April 1, 2023 7:03 PM

I mean, it's possible, but I have to remind you a considerable number of native Europeans have features that could be mistaken for "stereotypically black". Look at Norwegian Erling Haaland, for example:

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by Anonymousreply 49April 1, 2023 7:06 PM

OP, he had German ancestry. Like me.

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by Anonymousreply 50April 1, 2023 7:09 PM

Mamie was absolutely getting sawed in half at the Olde Towne Timber Mill

by Anonymousreply 51April 1, 2023 7:10 PM

The rumor is it was from his maternal side but there doesn't seem to be any solid evidence.

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by Anonymousreply 52April 1, 2023 7:12 PM

I think similar things were said about Mr. Lincoln.

by Anonymousreply 53April 1, 2023 7:16 PM

If I didn't know it was all satire, it would frighten me how much this site focuses on white purity.

by Anonymousreply 54April 1, 2023 7:18 PM

Rumors about J. Edgar Hoover, too.

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by Anonymousreply 55April 1, 2023 7:19 PM

R53 I remember Elizabeth Taylor's character in Raintree County saying that, lol.

by Anonymousreply 56April 1, 2023 7:21 PM

You can't go based on looks alone. This is the grandson of the slave Sally Hemings via her son, Eston, who was rumored to be the son of Thomas Jefferson.

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by Anonymousreply 57April 1, 2023 7:22 PM

President Dwight Eisenhower: America's First Black President?

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by Anonymousreply 58April 1, 2023 7:23 PM

Who let the coloreds in the color guard?!

by Anonymousreply 59April 1, 2023 7:24 PM

The whole of humanity is descended from one African woman.

by Anonymousreply 60April 1, 2023 7:24 PM

Maybe it's Maybelline.

by Anonymousreply 61April 1, 2023 7:25 PM

The more I read into it, the more sense it makes. His mother did look biracial, and she didn’t really know he mother or their family. Or at least she claimed.

A DNA test would clear it up a bit, but I think only his grandkids are alive now. Even if they had Black DNA, it could have have another source.

It would be cool if he was. It wouldn’t make him the first Black president. That would be stupid to suggest. He didn’t think of himself as Black, nor did anyone else. He may not have even known. But would be a cool if not sad quirk of history.

by Anonymousreply 62April 1, 2023 7:29 PM

The Eisenhowers were not black or Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 63April 1, 2023 7:30 PM

So strong is the stigma of having African blood that the mere suggestion of it sends folks into a frenzy. When they asked Jacqueline Kennedy about a possible black ancestor (a man named Van Salee, who also was an ancestor of Humphrey Bogart), she vehemently denied it, saying that Van Salee was Jewish. This is why white historians and the families of the famous people whose legacies they help to maintain, get so riled up about it. The only reason so many people don't have a problem outing J. Edgar Hoover's black blood is because he is so reviled nowadays. There are many famous white families with some degrees of African ancestry. Before slavery became so entrenched in American culture, black folks married and bedded down with whoever they pleased, just like white people and some indigenous tribes. Eventually as slavery took hold and the "Black Codes" became law, black blood was seen as something to be ashamed of and hated. It happened in Latin America too, but it wasn't as strong. Your children could "become" white if you had children with a white man. North America is different. So no, a white historian wouldn't want anyone knowing that any of America's sacred white cows had black blood. And a lot of white families, prominent or not, took great pains to hide it, especially after the implementation of Jim Crow laws in the South.

by Anonymousreply 64April 1, 2023 7:30 PM

More Afrocentrism bullshit. The Eisenhower family have been researched to death. Every ancestor is known. Enough.

by Anonymousreply 65April 1, 2023 7:31 PM

he warned about the military industrial complex

by Anonymousreply 66April 1, 2023 7:32 PM

[quote] His mother's family is mostly unknown and often suspected to have been mixed race

lol. No true at all.

by Anonymousreply 67April 1, 2023 7:32 PM

[quote] His mother's family is mostly unknown and often suspected to have been mixed race

lol. Not true at all.

by Anonymousreply 68April 1, 2023 7:32 PM

Ike looked like his father’s side.

by Anonymousreply 69April 1, 2023 7:34 PM

See? Black blood is so hated that some of these entitled white sissies are having strokes at the mere suggestion...

I rest my case.

Watch Muriel shut this thread down.

by Anonymousreply 70April 1, 2023 7:35 PM

He looks German. The U.S. has tons of people with German ancestry. Ike was one of them.

I'm not sure what some of you think white people look like. There's a lot of variety.

by Anonymousreply 71April 1, 2023 7:39 PM

r33 bitch look like Elmer Fudd

by Anonymousreply 72April 1, 2023 7:43 PM

Silly! All blood is red.

by Anonymousreply 73April 1, 2023 7:46 PM

Carol Channing also had German and Black ancestry.

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by Anonymousreply 74April 1, 2023 7:48 PM

I thought Warren Harding was the first black president.

by Anonymousreply 75April 1, 2023 7:51 PM

DL cunties are PRESSED AF!! LOL!

by Anonymousreply 76April 1, 2023 7:54 PM

are they tho

by Anonymousreply 77April 1, 2023 7:57 PM

The mere suggestion...

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by Anonymousreply 78April 1, 2023 8:00 PM

Dinah Shore was part black.

by Anonymousreply 79April 1, 2023 8:01 PM

Don't forget me!

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by Anonymousreply 80April 1, 2023 8:24 PM

He was def black in the sac.

by Anonymousreply 81April 1, 2023 9:06 PM

Knew it!

by Anonymousreply 82April 1, 2023 9:15 PM

He fought the Battle of the Bulge.

by Anonymousreply 83April 1, 2023 9:23 PM

He looks just white to me. The UK, Ireland and Germany are really not that far from France, Spain, Portugal and Italy and naturally genetic exchange occured. The Mesolithic-Celtic mix produces a swarthy phenotype. Not everyone has that blond Germanic look.

by Anonymousreply 84April 1, 2023 9:29 PM

It's twue! It's twue!

by Anonymousreply 85April 1, 2023 9:31 PM

People can't accept that the first Europeans were black skinned. The Mesolithic Hunter Gatherer culture. The Middle Eastern Farmers who were fairer skinned and carried the febe for light eyes then came, fought them and mostly displaced them but in Southern Europe and the British Isles many survived. The mix of these people produced several ethnic subgroups like the Celtics and Italics. Then the Yanmaya Steppe Herders who were more pale and light haired invaded and settled in Northern, Eastern and Central Europe displacing a lot of the habitants and became the Germanic, Nordic and Slavic tribes. So many Europeans have swarthy skin, curly hair and broad features not because they are recently mixed with Subsaharan African but because they carry the ancient phenotype and many families carry the genes.

by Anonymousreply 86April 1, 2023 9:43 PM

*gene

by Anonymousreply 87April 1, 2023 9:44 PM

People think of race as everyone has to be mixed to look the way they do. But it's more of a sequence of events and successive waves of migrations and displacements influenced by many factors. All human populations are mixed since ancient times. The idea of European race is so recent and Europe isn't a real continent. West Eurasian is a more logical term at best since Eurasia is a continent. And North Africans and Arabs look the way they do not because of European DNA, they have ancestry from Ancient East Africans and resemble closely the original Farmer population that took over Europe before their skin and hair lightened from natural selection and later DNA from Steppe Herders. Blue eyes actually are Middle Eastern in origin. So Europeans look like West Asians and North and Subsaharan Africans not the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 88April 1, 2023 10:00 PM

He was a brachiocephalic Alpine type, destined to be ruled over by Übermenschen!

by Anonymousreply 89April 1, 2023 11:40 PM

Uh oh.

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by Anonymousreply 90April 1, 2023 11:52 PM

Mama knew Eishenhower.

by Anonymousreply 91April 2, 2023 12:29 AM

Eisenhower was one of our best and most accomplished presidents . His central role in the Allied Forces victory in World War II can’t be underestimated. He did a lot to push infrastructure investment during the post-War years (something that needs to happen again now ) . I’m not so concerned about his race background , whatever it was. He was the right man at the right time .

by Anonymousreply 92April 2, 2023 1:35 AM

He was a great general, R92.

Just a so-so president.

by Anonymousreply 93April 2, 2023 2:00 AM

He was good at keeping the US out of wars.He ended the Korean War and tried to limit US involvement in SE Asia. His big fear was a land war in Asia. He was a horrible speaker but a good executive. Being an eloquent President is kind of overvalued.

by Anonymousreply 94April 2, 2023 2:13 AM

He had that Mona Lisa smirk-smile, like Martin Milner.

by Anonymousreply 95April 2, 2023 2:16 AM

If evidence was required about when happens when you combine bad education and social media, look no further than this thread.

by Anonymousreply 96April 2, 2023 4:40 AM

His mom looked like Helen Hayes.

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by Anonymousreply 97April 2, 2023 4:46 AM

R97, or maybe like Rosa Parks.

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by Anonymousreply 98April 2, 2023 4:55 AM

Eisenhower had no problem serving in a segregated Army. Many of his closest Army officer friends were vicious Southern racists. He commuted death sentences for white soldiers but not for Black soldiers.

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by Anonymousreply 99April 2, 2023 6:04 AM

After all her comments about the coloreds, who knew Mamie craved BBC?

by Anonymousreply 100April 2, 2023 6:41 AM

He created the Vietnam War 😩

by Anonymousreply 101April 2, 2023 12:37 PM

Not so-- r101. He did a lot to rein in the military, which was eager to escalate in Vietnam after 1954.

by Anonymousreply 102April 2, 2023 12:45 PM

R101 is pure misinformation.

by Anonymousreply 103April 2, 2023 1:01 PM

No way he was black. His name was DeWhite.

by Anonymousreply 104April 2, 2023 1:08 PM

Except "de white" sounds like a black man saying white.

by Anonymousreply 105April 2, 2023 1:30 PM

Like jesus and Cleopatra, OP?

by Anonymousreply 106April 2, 2023 1:33 PM

R106 Exactly.

by Anonymousreply 107April 2, 2023 1:36 PM

Wait. Cleopatra was white. Greek, right?

by Anonymousreply 108April 2, 2023 1:37 PM

R108 yes.

by Anonymousreply 109April 2, 2023 1:55 PM

Ike’s Life Matters

by Anonymousreply 110April 2, 2023 2:32 PM

No, R108: Macedonian.

by Anonymousreply 111April 2, 2023 2:35 PM

Cleopatra Jones was black.

by Anonymousreply 112April 14, 2023 2:38 PM
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