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Why did Faith Hill's career go straight down the shitter?

It wasn't from lack of glossy hair nor oversized veneers.

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by Anonymousreply 109April 7, 2024 4:04 PM

Drugs and other mental health issues probably.

by Anonymousreply 1March 23, 2023 12:13 PM

Seems unlikely, R1.

by Anonymousreply 2March 23, 2023 12:14 PM

She had a good run, but she was never anything special as a singer - plus, she became a mom and probably had other priorities. Listening to her songs today - they're not terrible, but very formulaic.

by Anonymousreply 3March 23, 2023 12:36 PM

Taylor Swift happened.

Younger and sexier

by Anonymousreply 4March 23, 2023 12:53 PM

She waited too long between albums. She released Breathe in 1999 but didn’t follow up till 2002 with Cry. At that time in music, artists had to release albums every year or every other year to stay relevant in the pop spectrum unless they already had a legacy. She was new in the crossover world and had to maintain that momentum but failed to. But she definitely has an amazing voice.

by Anonymousreply 5March 23, 2023 12:59 PM

Even as a kid I remember that Breathe song being everywhere and I think it was a huge hit for her, right? I do remember reading that she put a hold on her career to focus on raising her family but it could also be she wasn't as popular anymore.

by Anonymousreply 6March 23, 2023 1:05 PM

She already seemed like someone’s mom by the time “Breathe” became popular.

Just wasn’t going to last in the TRL era.

by Anonymousreply 7March 23, 2023 1:24 PM

Todd in the Shadows (YouTube) on "Cry" and the end of Faith Hill's career. It's good video. He basically says she tried to be Celine Dion and found out.

by Anonymousreply 8March 30, 2024 3:42 AM

I would post the link, but Datalounge won't let me.

by Anonymousreply 9March 30, 2024 3:43 AM

The torturous "This Kiss" is still heard in every store that has canned music playing.

by Anonymousreply 10March 30, 2024 4:02 AM

Married well and lives a happy life.

The dream.

by Anonymousreply 11March 30, 2024 4:04 AM

Cry was one of my favorite songs on the album by the artist who wrote it. He had a single called Spaceship that was released and played heavily on an alternative radio where I live and I absolutely love that song and the whole album. Her version changes some words and makes it stupid.

Anyway that album and like four others that came out the same year really spoke to my heart and are still some of my favorites today.

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by Anonymousreply 12March 30, 2024 4:17 AM

A lot of her went a long way.

by Anonymousreply 13March 30, 2024 4:27 AM

Two words. Carrie. Underwood.

by Anonymousreply 14March 30, 2024 4:28 AM

[quote] Younger and sexier

Faith was absolutely stunning in her day.

by Anonymousreply 15March 30, 2024 4:32 AM

We just did this OP.

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by Anonymousreply 16March 30, 2024 4:33 AM

So I just googled her. Apparently she’s one of the leads on one of those Yellowstone shows.

by Anonymousreply 17March 30, 2024 4:34 AM

Years ago, I read here at the good ole DL, she and Alan Jackson had a fling before she married Tim McGraw.

Jackson was married and didn’t leave his wife for her.

We were to infer she was on the rebound with McGraw.

by Anonymousreply 18March 30, 2024 4:36 AM

R14 It’s no coincidence that Faith’s last album came out the very year Carrie Underwood debuted. They look the same, have similar voices and sing exactly the same kind of music. Faith was traded in for a newer model, just like Carrie was eventually traded in for Taylor/Kelsea Ballerini/Maren Morris.

by Anonymousreply 19March 30, 2024 4:37 AM

And who could forget Faith’s visceral reaction to being replaced by young upstart Carrie?

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by Anonymousreply 20March 30, 2024 4:38 AM

Faith Hill and Tim McGraw are intelligent liberals. That can't be good for a Country and Western career, but since they have more money than God, they'll be fine 🙂

by Anonymousreply 21March 30, 2024 4:44 AM

We need to put Faith’s awards reaction in some context. This was the beginning of the reality show/talent contest show crossover into mainstream celebrity. People still thought those shows were a joke. So for a pro like Faith to lose to a talent contest winner was stunning.

by Anonymousreply 22March 30, 2024 4:49 AM

R22 And for a pro like Faith to lose her ever loving shit on live television in front of millions of people, was also stunning.

by Anonymousreply 23March 30, 2024 4:51 AM

Faith’s last album Fireflies is one of my favorites. If memory serves it did fine and sold a million copies or so, but wasn’t a blockbuster hit like the Faith or Breathe albums had been. Carrie’s debut (released the same year as Fireflies) sold something like ten million copies.

by Anonymousreply 24March 30, 2024 4:54 AM

Faith Hill doesn't like it when you grab her man either 😂

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by Anonymousreply 25March 30, 2024 4:56 AM

Fireflies failed to produce a hit single, which led its underperforming. Mississippi Girl peaked at #29 and sank like a stone.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 30, 2024 4:56 AM

She had kids to raise. But she can always sell clothes and dish sponges.

by Anonymousreply 27March 30, 2024 5:03 AM

She tried for a comeback in 2012 and it failed to amount to anything. American Heart peaked at #35 on the country chart and didn’t even touch the Hot 100. That same year, Carrie Underwood released Blown Away, which went on to be the best selling country album of the year and produced four hit singles. Faith’s moment had well and truly passed.

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by Anonymousreply 28March 30, 2024 5:06 AM

Faith is a nice person and a staunch liberal. Carrie is a nasty bitch who is notorious in Nashville for being aloof, cold and difficult. Carrie is also a deplorable Trumptard who doesn’t believe in abortion. Most damning - Dolly Parton notoriously cannot stand Carrie and refused to duet with her a few years ago. And Dolly gets along with everyone (including Faith).

Faith Hill FTW.

by Anonymousreply 29March 30, 2024 5:14 AM

It’s not just Faith. Artists who find a high level of success early on often keep the same sound entirely or mostly keep it but just morph enough to keep up with the new recording tech/trends because honestly that’s what makes them (and their labels) money. Kenny Chesney and Rascal Flatts both come to mind as artists who found that thing that made them different and popular and then just stuck to it, hard. I’m not criticizing at all, it’s a business.

by Anonymousreply 30March 30, 2024 5:20 AM

The new Trainwreckords episode is about Faith Hill. Lots of great videos from Todd in the Shadows... highly recommend to my fellow nitpicky, hypercritical DLers.

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by Anonymousreply 31March 30, 2024 5:31 AM

Maybe it was that stupid stepford wives movie that couldn't decide on a plot or even if the wives were robots or clones or what.

by Anonymousreply 32March 30, 2024 2:29 PM

She had big success in the 90s and early aughts. Most artists, even those who make it big like Faith Hill, rarely hold onto it for decades and decades and decades. The DL worships most of those, few, female artists here almost exclusively. Her career didn’t go down the shutter. It played out over time.

by Anonymousreply 33March 30, 2024 2:47 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that Faith was just fucking around at that award show? I mean, she does it right to the camera.

by Anonymousreply 34March 30, 2024 3:20 PM

One of the last songs she did before her semi retirement was this duet with Reba

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by Anonymousreply 35March 30, 2024 3:40 PM

I think that, too, r34.

by Anonymousreply 36March 30, 2024 3:41 PM

Allegedly she had the Carrie Fisher affliction BP in combination with lots of Coca Cola.

by Anonymousreply 37March 30, 2024 3:43 PM

I think she could make a comeback. Lots of people remember her with nostalgia. She was about the biggest universally loved music star from 1998 to 9/11. Nostalgia is big now. If she went back to the studio and did the Breathe formula something could happen.

by Anonymousreply 38March 30, 2024 3:48 PM

This Kiss & Breathe were huge songs. Massive hits.

by Anonymousreply 39March 30, 2024 3:48 PM

I can't believe someone on here claimed Taylor is sexier than Faith. Must be blind. Faith career went down the shitter because she was second fiddle to Shania Twain. Shania was even sexier than Faith but her music had much larger crossover appeal globally. Faith was just second rate compared to her.

by Anonymousreply 40March 30, 2024 4:34 PM

29 Posts before it became a Trump thread. You must do better.

by Anonymousreply 41March 30, 2024 4:35 PM

You’re late R41.

by Anonymousreply 42March 30, 2024 5:17 PM

Did it go down the shitter? or did she simply just step back.

by Anonymousreply 43March 30, 2024 5:24 PM

R40 Faith’s music was better

by Anonymousreply 44March 30, 2024 5:47 PM

R44, was it though? I'm not sure about the albums but in terms of singles, Shania has more memorable ones--Any Man of Mine, You're Still the One, Man (I Feel like a Woman), That Don't Impress Me Much, etc.

by Anonymousreply 45March 30, 2024 7:38 PM

Shania could never really sing. Martina McBride is the one who had some real pipes. She seems to have just faded away too. I've seen Martina in concert a few times. It's hard to believe but she's even better than her in studio stuff.

by Anonymousreply 46March 30, 2024 7:41 PM

Most artists only last a few albums. Not everyone is Madonna and Beyonce and Taylor Swift.

by Anonymousreply 47March 30, 2024 7:51 PM

She totally do this, especially since Shania exposed herself and lost her voice permanently. Faith could sweep the floor with that bitch.

by Anonymousreply 48March 30, 2024 8:00 PM

R46 in the last 5-10 years Martina’s voice is shot to shit

by Anonymousreply 49March 30, 2024 8:11 PM

[quote] I can't believe someone on here claimed Taylor is sexier than Faith

Taylor’s a generic cute blonde but Faith Hill was as hot as hell in her prime. All the straight men loved her rolling around in the sheets in the Breathe video.

by Anonymousreply 50March 30, 2024 8:13 PM

R50 more meat was beat to Faith Hill in 1999 than at a butcher in Staten Island.

by Anonymousreply 51March 30, 2024 8:15 PM
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by Anonymousreply 52March 30, 2024 8:17 PM

Great song from her 2nd album when she was still considered country.

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by Anonymousreply 53March 30, 2024 8:19 PM

*Straight Down the Shitter*. 🤣 my dad use to say that and it always made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 54March 30, 2024 8:20 PM

R54 most witticisms on DL come from their blue collar childhoods.

by Anonymousreply 55March 30, 2024 8:26 PM

^ Well, smell her

by Anonymousreply 56March 30, 2024 8:47 PM

Shania was given credit for co-writing all her songs with her husband, legendary producer Mutt Lange. Whether or not it was actually true is debatable, but it did put her in a different category. She and Mutt together were a great story.

by Anonymousreply 57March 30, 2024 10:16 PM

R31 is a must watch. WOW! That guy sets a narrative and produces his YouTube videos better than VH1 Behind the Music. Truly impressive and an analysis of a Diva’s career that gay men will truly appreciate.

by Anonymousreply 58March 30, 2024 10:34 PM

I will agree about Martina's voice. I think it's because she took some vocal training way too late and everything she did live was just full throttle. That takes it's toll. My favorite Faith songs are I Will and This Kiss. She put out a lot of good stuff too. Could you imagine Shania doing something like this?

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by Anonymousreply 59March 30, 2024 10:44 PM

R59 woof! Her voice is blown. Starts at 2:10

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by Anonymousreply 60March 30, 2024 10:48 PM

Martina might be the ultimate Frau singer

by Anonymousreply 61March 30, 2024 10:49 PM

R60 Martina needs to hire about 3 big black gospel women to do backup and pad her thin ass vocals

by Anonymousreply 62March 30, 2024 10:53 PM

Todd in the Shadows' video on her "Cry" album sums it up: She tried something different after the music industry had shifted, and it blew up in her face.

by Anonymousreply 63March 30, 2024 11:36 PM

R34 If you carefully analyze the clip in slo-mo you can see that she says "Oh" to herself right before storming away, as in "Oh shit, I didn't know the camera was still on".

by Anonymousreply 64March 31, 2024 1:11 AM

Faith’s career died in 2002 with the Cry album, which swiftly undid a decade’s worth of goodwill. But to be fair to Faith, 2002 was a brutal time for women in pop. Liz Phair’s self-titled, Jewel’s 0304, Madonna’s American Life and Faith’s Cry were all released within a year of each other. There was blood in the water for any female who the public perceived as “pulling a Britney.”

by Anonymousreply 65March 31, 2024 1:12 AM

It seems all the women of 90s country disappeared at the same time. Faith, Shania, Leann, Trisha, Martina… that sound just wasn’t trendy anymore. And the ones who tried to pivot (Faith, Leann) were eviscerated for it. There was no winning.

After the public mauling she got for Cry, Faith tried to prove she was still the same ol’ southern sweetie pie with Mississippi Girl, but it seemed desperate and pandering and calculated and by that point it was too little, too late.

by Anonymousreply 66March 31, 2024 1:17 AM

Both she and McGraw were great in 1883. That was only 2 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 67March 31, 2024 1:18 AM

Faith came out of the gate second. She’s the Christina to Shania’s Britney.

Yes, she had a superior voice, but she had what? Two crossover songs?

by Anonymousreply 68March 31, 2024 1:22 AM

People love to draw the comparison between Faith and Shania but they’re not very similar. Faith was more like a countrified Celine Dion.

by Anonymousreply 69March 31, 2024 1:23 AM

My dad the first time he saw Faith Hill on TV: “I’d die on this Hill.”

My mom: “It’s not like you’ll ever get to climb it.”

by Anonymousreply 70March 31, 2024 1:25 AM

I thought Faith was more sexy because of her statuesque confidence and natural effervescence. Shania was hit but a little too pluckish to feel totally sexy to me. All the little talking on songs. " Like your Brad Pitt, Cool!" , and other coquettish speaking in songs sounds infantile to me.

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by Anonymousreply 72March 31, 2024 1:29 AM

Faith Hill always reminds me of Jessica Simpson. She has an incredible voice and technical talent, one that really lends itself to ballads and doesn’t work so well with more casual or “fun” pop songs (the kind Shania excels at). But there is a shallowness that doesn’t work for that same style of music, which makes it harder to thread the needle. You need a big sounding song that demonstrates their talent and range, but a topic that doesn’t require too much emotion. That’s why “Breathe” and Jessica’s “I Wanna Love You Forever” were such powerhouse hits, but the second they try to branch out to a more intense topic the same power flops and sounds disingenuous.

They both had pop “this is the real me” songs and albums that didn’t take off, too. Because everyone saw right through it.

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by Anonymousreply 73March 31, 2024 1:42 AM

I remember really liking Mississippi Girl when it came out so learning that it was an attempt at damage control post-Cry is certainly something.

by Anonymousreply 74March 31, 2024 1:48 AM

I loathe Faith Hill. There’s just something about her that doesn’t seem “real,” like she's just showy. I can’t stand Carrie Underwood either. I prefer country singers like Miranda Lambert or Reba, as they seem a little more down to earth to me.

by Anonymousreply 75March 31, 2024 1:58 AM

I have respect for her and her husband for being vocal open liberals in a town where that's hard to be and yet most of the hard core country establishment still likes and respects both of them both. That tells me they are somewhat genuine.

by Anonymousreply 76March 31, 2024 2:02 AM

R34 The camera was fucking standing in front of her face for 5 minutes while they waited for the winner to be announced.

I remember watching this live. Faith just finished performing. It was rare that the person who just performed doesn't win the award following their performance.

Personally, I don't think she was joking - she would have I think laughed or smiled after, not walk out of frame pissed off.

by Anonymousreply 77March 31, 2024 2:04 AM

Also I'll never forget that LeAnn Rimes didn't get the memo it was supposedly a joke and wrote a whole long ass letter on her website about how Carrie hadn't earned the right to be in country music or to win awards.

by Anonymousreply 78March 31, 2024 2:06 AM

Sure it was a joke. That was not the face of someone joking. I don’t buy it for a second that it wasn’t a genuine reaction and I don’t care what she says now.

by Anonymousreply 79March 31, 2024 2:08 AM

To be honest only til they started winning awards did I ever look at her and the other chubby girl that won AI as anything other than show contestants.

by Anonymousreply 80March 31, 2024 2:10 AM

One hit wonder Jessica Andrews said Faith wanted to record one of her songs for Cry, and that when Faith was told “no,” she locked herself in her car sobbing and refused to come out until the producer agreed to let her have it. Even after all that, Faith wasn’t allowed to release her version.

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by Anonymousreply 81March 31, 2024 2:17 AM

R81 This was the song. It wouldn’t have helped Faith’s album, which was DOA.

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by Anonymousreply 82March 31, 2024 2:21 AM

I love them all but my heart belongs to Patty Loveless

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by Anonymousreply 83March 31, 2024 2:25 AM

Thought she’d age more gracefully than this.

She looks like Kimberly Guilfoyle.

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by Anonymousreply 84March 31, 2024 2:28 AM

Someone in the last thread called her a raisin with veneers, which seems apt.

by Anonymousreply 85March 31, 2024 2:30 AM

The Cry album is mostly overproduced drek but it did include one lovely country ballad. Considering all the backlash at the time, it’s shocking this wasn’t rush released as the single with a big glossy video, as it was her only chance at course correction. It’s still a fan favorite and Faith performs it at all her shows.

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by Anonymousreply 86March 31, 2024 2:46 AM

I like Faith but can never fully forgive her for her horrendous cover of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart.

by Anonymousreply 87March 31, 2024 3:00 AM

I preferred Deana Carter. Less plastic, wrote her own stuff, just as pretty as Faith.

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by Anonymousreply 88March 31, 2024 3:06 AM

“Did I Shave My Legs for This?” is one of the best country albums of the 90s.

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by Anonymousreply 89March 31, 2024 3:07 AM

Love Deana You Still Shake me is my favorite she does. Let's not forget Pam Tillis.

by Anonymousreply 90March 31, 2024 3:17 AM

Wynonna, Pam Tillis, Teri Clark, Lorrie Morgan, Trisha Yearwood, Patty Loveless, Suzy Bogguss, Rosanne Cash, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Martraca Berg, Gretchen Peters, Faith Hill, Kathy Mattea, Tanta Tucker, Shania Twain, Reba McIntyre, Deana Carter, Carlene Carter, Mindy Mcready, pretty well covers the female country artists I loved in the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 91March 31, 2024 3:26 AM

I love Tanta Tucker too!

by Anonymousreply 92March 31, 2024 3:27 AM

Yeah. The 90s were the golden age for female country singers. Fuck, even Mary Chapin Carpenter got her own TV special. I don't think females ruled the charts like they did in the 90s before or since. Any genre.

Pam's Maybe it Was Memphis was my high school jam. "A lonely boy far from home." It seemed so romantic.

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by Anonymousreply 93March 31, 2024 3:31 AM

R60 Poor Martina.

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by Anonymousreply 94March 31, 2024 3:32 AM

Martraca Berg saw more success as a songwriter but Ive enjoyed all of her albums. The first time I heard her was while I was working a Saturday night closing shift at McDonalds. I was 18 and listening to KSOP one of three local country stations. Back in the Saddle came on either CMT or maybe the Box and I was giddy about it. I lived for anytime they'd group up for a song like this.

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by Anonymousreply 95March 31, 2024 3:33 AM

Martina is a closet alcoholic according to people I know in Nashville. Could explain the damage to her voice.

by Anonymousreply 96March 31, 2024 3:39 AM

R96 Yeah there were reports they had to empty all the minibars on her tour with The Judds last year.

by Anonymousreply 97March 31, 2024 3:40 AM

I always loved the hot mess the Judds became. Until Mrs. Judd killed herself. Then it hurt. Wynona never did enough to distance herself from those two. My god watching their family dynamics on their many Oprah appearnces....good lord I always left thinking poor Wy. Oprah used to just let the train wreck keep rolling loving every second of it. Oprah knows the good drama when she sees it.

by Anonymousreply 98March 31, 2024 3:42 AM

Poor Wy R98? You mean Poor Wy the nasty Trump loving repub. Ashley Judd is the liberal one and the only one worth keeping.

by Anonymousreply 99March 31, 2024 4:02 AM

99 replies before it's a Trump thread. You're way late.

by Anonymousreply 100March 31, 2024 4:05 AM

I like Lee Ann Womack's voice.

I agree that there is something generic about Faith Hill, like Jessica Simpson.

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by Anonymousreply 101March 31, 2024 4:31 AM

Husband Tim McGraw.

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by Anonymousreply 102March 31, 2024 4:32 AM

Looking very Dallas Buyers Club R102.

by Anonymousreply 103March 31, 2024 4:36 AM

Nasty hag.

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by Anonymousreply 104March 31, 2024 4:38 AM

Fun fact: This One’s for the Girls was written for Faith, but was submitted too late for inclusion on Cry. So, it was given to Martina McBride, becoming her biggest crossover hit ever. Faith’s background vocals can still be heard on the song and she is credited as a backup vocalist in the booklet.

Interesting to think what could have been, had Faith launched with this instead.

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by Anonymousreply 105March 31, 2024 5:03 AM

Let’s talk about all of their political affiliations instead of music, please revise the discussion accordingly!

by Anonymousreply 106March 31, 2024 3:42 PM

Can R104 go start a Wynonna thread?

by Anonymousreply 107April 7, 2024 3:12 PM

[quote] Faith Hill always reminds me of Jessica Simpson

OUCH. Faith always had substance to back up her style.

by Anonymousreply 108April 7, 2024 3:53 PM

Jessica Simpson is a screamer. She always sounds like she’s screaming.

by Anonymousreply 109April 7, 2024 4:04 PM
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