Such a deserving win. Yeoh established and maintained the emotional throughline of a film that spanned multiple genres, from action and comedy to sci-fi and horror, while playing to those genres with skill and aplomb, often simultaneously, and in two languages, the primary one being her second language (i.e., English). And she did so without ever winking at or patronizing the audience but rather illustrating and mirroring for us all—with sublime delicacy, I might add—the universal “hero’s journey.” Her work was genius and profound.
I much preferred Cate's performance, but Yeoh is very talented. I am not a fan of the movie Yeoh was in, but would love to see more of her in other projects.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 13, 2023 10:23 AM |
Given the material, Michelle deserved. Tar had a much more flashy script for the lead character.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 13, 2023 10:26 AM |
R1 I love Cate in most things and thoroughly enjoyed her in Tar, but I also share some of the sentiments concerning her performance expressed by this Oscar voter, “The Actor.”
[quote] I said a little prayer during TÁR that I would never have to watch Cate Blanchett act again. I thought, this has got to be the end of this, this can't go on. I think she's a talented woman, but she's so technical, she's ice cold, and I always see her acting. The person I wanted to be in there was Judy Davis in Nitram. Astonishing. You've got Cate Blanchett and Judy Davis, both from Australia, and they couldn't be more different. Cate is working it like crazy, like, get a big stinking load of me, and Judy Davis is just doing the work and knocking it out of the park every single time. I feel like Cate just wants us all to fall in love with her and be a movie star, and I'm not on board.
Yeoh pierced me with her simplicity and ability to mirror for us with profundity the human experience and condition.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 13, 2023 10:27 AM |
There have been worse winners than Michelle, so it's not a big deal. Besides, Cate has a couple already and will prob win more, so, again, not a big deal.
With that said, this was obviously a "product of its time" kind of win. Years from now, it will likely be seen as one of those WTF wins, while Cate's performance will go down as a classic.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 13, 2023 10:31 AM |
R4 I think the opposite will prove true, frankly.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 13, 2023 10:33 AM |
I think this has more to do with Tar than with Cate. Tar is one of those movies adored by critics but hated/ignored by almost everyone else.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 13, 2023 11:02 AM |
Have you seen Tár, r3? Because if you had, you'd know that's exactly how the role of Lydia Tár is meant to be acted. Todd Field even wrote the movie with Cate Blanchett in mind. While it's not an unreasonable comment to make, it totally misses the point with this movie.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 13, 2023 11:08 AM |
Loved her as the bitchy mother in ‘Craxy Rich Asians’
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 13, 2023 11:10 AM |
Very pleased by Michelle's win.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 13, 2023 11:42 AM |
R7 Did you read my post or just respond reflexively?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 13, 2023 12:23 PM |
Ugh these Oscar threads are insufferable. I’d rather listen to BRF stuff all day than this.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 13, 2023 12:27 PM |
Nobody will remember Yeoh's performance in 50 years. it's amazing to me that Faye Dunaway never got an Oscar nomination for Mommie Dearest but her performance is STILL relevant to people 40 years later. They will never say that about Yeoh in Everything Everywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 13, 2023 12:31 PM |
OP, you said her performance is the 'Hero's Journey' and thats exactly why she shouldn't have won. Because a great performance is not about being a hero, it's about showing all the dimensions of a person, both good and bad.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 13, 2023 12:32 PM |
I like Yeoh a lot and am fine with her winning.
However, EEAAO winning best picture will be like Crash in 10 years.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 13, 2023 12:54 PM |
Nothing caused controversy like " Crash."
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 13, 2023 1:16 PM |
Another win not based in merit. Nothing surprising about that.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 13, 2023 1:17 PM |
R13 But she did get a chance to show all of her character’s dimensions.
[quote] There's such a beautiful moment when she looks to her husband and says, "I saw my whole life without you," and you're waiting for this moment, and she goes, "It was so beautiful." The line is heartbreakingly hilarious, but the way she says it with that dedication, you're like, oh my god, it was so honest.
Everyone in the film is flawed, but each actor is given a moment to allow their character’s humanity and vulnerability to shine through—without overwrought tics and mannerisms.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 13, 2023 1:20 PM |
With a tilt of her head and the tear-rimmed gleam of her eyes, Yeoh said more about the human experience and condition in a few seconds than Blanchett did in nearly three hours.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 13, 2023 1:25 PM |
This scene—the way Yeoh and Hsu rip their hearts out with the smallest gestures and whispers—is sublime. A lesson in acting.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 13, 2023 1:29 PM |
Blanchett's character wasn't about the "human condition", r18. Michelle's was, and she did it very well, but aside from the fact that they were both in incomprehensible movies, the two roles are very different.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 13, 2023 2:17 PM |
R13, did you even see the movie? Because based on that comment I have to think you didn't.
And as for the OP, I completely agree with you. Completely. She is an amazing force, and amazing actor, and I love her in everything she's ever been in (even when she's been in crap). She definitely deserved this win.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 13, 2023 2:23 PM |
[quote] in two languages, the primary one being her second language (i.e., English).
Michelle speaks Malay, Hokkien, Cantonese, and Mandarin, in addition to English.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 13, 2023 2:28 PM |
R21 The human condition encompasses all humans. Unless you’re implying Blanchett wasn’t playing a human, your comment makes no sense. In either case, put it this way: Yeoh said more about her character—and more genuinely, too—in those few seconds than Blanchett did in ~3 hours.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 13, 2023 2:30 PM |
And also congratulations to 1993 GAP model, Brendan Fraser!
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 13, 2023 2:31 PM |
Awful movie, middling at best performance. TAR is a future classic. The fact it didn’t win any Oscars in the current tasteless and studio bought environment is a testament to quality - same with the Banshees of Insherin.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 13, 2023 2:32 PM |
R23 Good to know! My point is: She accomplished a sublime performance in a language different from her native tongue. That, in and of itself, is a technical feat, one most people overlook.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 13, 2023 2:32 PM |
R25 You little nut.
Come here!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 13, 2023 2:33 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 13, 2023 2:33 PM |
[quote]Her work was genius and profound.
And your work here is a MARY sounding like a tea kettle whistle.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 13, 2023 2:36 PM |
R30 Just like I like it, toots.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 13, 2023 2:50 PM |
Two terrible movies.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 13, 2023 2:58 PM |
[quote]She accomplished a sublime performance in a language different from her native tongue.
From Wikipedia, she was raised speaking English and Malay, so it's actually her performances in Cantonese and Mandarin where she was acting in a language outside her one of her childhood languages. Meryl's accent play aside, it's not that big a deal in the rest of the world; Charlize Theron didn't perform Monster in Afrikaans, Viggo Mortensen doesn't act in Danish anymore. Just because Michelle has an Malaysian English accent doesn't mean she's navigating some strange alien lexicon. No need to 'other' her any more than the 'identifies as Asian' media are already doing.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 13, 2023 2:58 PM |
R33 She may have been raised learning English, but I highly doubt it was her primary language. Point taken, though.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 13, 2023 3:01 PM |
[quote]TAR is a future classic
Will be forgotten within a few months. No one wanted to see it when it was in the theaters; it only made 19.6 million. " Classic"? BWAAAAH.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 13, 2023 3:02 PM |
Sum Ting Wong
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 13, 2023 3:05 PM |
Michelle won an Oscar for playing a lesbian with hotdogs for fingers. Mariah, bolt the door!!!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 13, 2023 3:15 PM |
Oscars so yellow.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 13, 2023 3:44 PM |
Cate would have won had she not given the speeches earlier in the award season pretty much condemning the award system . She seemed to hold the whole concept in contempt. So, Cate fans, blame her, not Michelle or the " affirmative action" movement. Had she kept her moth shut, she would have won.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 13, 2023 4:03 PM |
Hsu should have been nominated instead of JLC in supporting.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 13, 2023 5:11 PM |
Even Michelle Yeoh doesn't think she was the best actress from last year. That's why she's been pushing this "career Oscar"/POC narrative. This win, Curtis's win and BP will age like milk.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 13, 2023 6:06 PM |
Does she cook with MSG?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 13, 2023 6:07 PM |
So every character in a film is about the "human condition", r24? Every film is about the "human condition"? Yeoh's character was about the human condition in that Evelyn goes on a journey of self-discovery and finds that being alive, being a human can be a much more wonderful experience than she had ever realised. Blanchett's character is about the fall of an over-achieving star due to her own obsessive and selfish behaviour and paranoid psychosis.
Sure, Yeoh's expression in 3 seconds is great, within the overall context of the film. I also loved it when Blanchett's character walked up to the girl who is bullying her daughter and said "I am Petra's daughter" in German.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 13, 2023 6:10 PM |
Michelle doesn't play a lesbian, r37.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 13, 2023 6:11 PM |
Enough with the racial quotas. She shouldn’t have gotten an Oscar for being a Chinese.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 13, 2023 6:14 PM |
[quote]Enough with the racial quotas. She shouldn’t have gotten an Oscar for being a Chinese.
Posters should be required to take an IQ test to weed out the imbeciles, so we don't get posts like R45's. Thank you for representing the stupid; she's no more Chinese than Conan O'Brien.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 13, 2023 6:36 PM |
Looks Chinese to me.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 13, 2023 7:40 PM |
[quote]Blanchett's character is about the fall of an over-achieving star due to her own obsessive and selfish behaviour and paranoid psychosis.
In your eyes, are egomania and mental illness not part of the human condition and experience, R43?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 13, 2023 7:50 PM |
[quote]Looks Chinese to me.
That's because you're a MAGAt.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 13, 2023 8:06 PM |
OP you lost me at “emotional throughline”.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 13, 2023 8:27 PM |
R48, in your definition, everything is part of the human experience and the human condition, but I'm not sure that's what is really meant by the term. I think it has a more specific definition, however, namely what it means to be a human, to live a life, the idea that we can find greater meaning in our lives, through experiences that that can be shared by all humans. So, I see Evelyn's journey through this weird experience that she has, from being a bad-tempered, overworked, over-harassed daughter, wife, mother and worker, who has bad relationships with everyone, to the realisation that she just needs to chill and look for the beautiful, fulfilling things in her loved ones as a story about the human condition. What happens to Lydia Tár is something more focused, specific only to her. It's not really reflecting on what it means to be a person, on how we can live our lives more meaningfully. That's not to say it is of less value. But the human condition is something specific, it's not simply everything that may ever happen to a human.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 13, 2023 9:05 PM |
Posters like R47 are always the ones who complain about everything becoming too woke, their inability to say anything without being canceled, and that the wokesters always have to bring race into everything for no reason. They also love to King out that they’re most definitely NOT racist.
And then they post shit like R47 that exposes them as little racist and ignorant imbeciles.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 13, 2023 9:17 PM |
R37. Mariah?
The character’s name was Maria.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 13, 2023 9:58 PM |
How is it racist to say she’s Chinese?
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 13, 2023 11:21 PM |
Creole pidgin is creole pidgin no matter how you cut the mustard.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 13, 2023 11:29 PM |
R55 She’s not Chinese, she’s Malaysian. Malaysia is a different country to China - there you go, you’ve learned something new today!
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 14, 2023 12:04 AM |
R47 she looks Chinese to you because you are an ill-educated mouth breather.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 14, 2023 12:06 AM |
She is ethnic Chinese, from Malaysia.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 14, 2023 1:01 AM |
I’m 50 minutes into this movie and have yet to get into it. The two leads are compelling and well done, I respect the quirkiness but could give a crap about the violent swings into boring action and alternative universe portal crap always feels familiar.
JLC’s intro was channeling the bad babysitter from Simpsons from the low slung breasts, vest, posture and hair. Her attempt at a bureaucrat accent went from a lousy NY Jewish impersonation to newscaster normal to a Boston accent. Maybe it gets better. Alternate universe crap always feels like a copout.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 14, 2023 1:33 AM |
who?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 14, 2023 1:33 AM |
Yes R59 and I’m ethnically English and Irish, from Australia. But fuck you if you describe me as English or Irish.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 14, 2023 2:36 AM |
[quote] She’s not Chinese, she’s Malaysian.
Oh, it’s all the same. You know what I meant. They all look the same.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 14, 2023 12:12 PM |
Hope you're not serious.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 14, 2023 2:06 PM |
[quote]R44: Michelle doesn't play a lesbian, [R37].
R44, is this a smartassed way of saying that she doesn't 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦 one because she 𝑖𝑠 one?
Because in 'Hot Dog universe,' Evelyn is definitely depicted as being in a lesbian relationship with Deidre. When Evelyn was assigned the improbable act of telling 'Bagel Deidre' that she loves her ("Tell her that you love her... and mean it!"), it created the probability that in a multiverse of infinite possibilities, there would be at least one universe where such love was actually realized.
Moreover, the hot dog fingers function as genitalia, and Evelyn and Deidre sucking on each others' "fingers" elicits orgasms of mustard and ketchup.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 14, 2023 2:21 PM |
[quote] And also congratulations to 1993 GAP model, Brendan Fraser!
Also known as this year's GAP roasted potato.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 14, 2023 4:06 PM |
R64, Sum Ting Wong?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 14, 2023 11:57 PM |
That is SO FUNNEEEE R67!!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 15, 2023 6:08 AM |