Happy Rockefeller

Even Henry Kissinger was smitten with her effortless feminine guile. No matter the occasion, Happy was never without her beloved Lark cigs.

Happy looks like she was born a harry

another hideous inbred.

She was a WHORE!

She bloodied my marital sheets at the St. Regis with her flow. Only surprise was that she had periods as she looked like a MAN.

Is she the inspiration for the relationship between Betty and Henry Francis on Mad Men?

The happy couple relaxing in Seal Harbor

[quote]With her wholesome good looks

On what planet? Standards sure were different then. In OP's link she looks like a man in drag. Not a good looking man, either.

She look like a man

A regular Camilla she was.

I always thought Nelson was very doable. A lot of BDE. I’m glad he passed on very very HAPPY 😃

I am wondering if an affair was prior to her work as a secretary. What married super wealthy women with 4 children worked then? There was so much societal pressure to women not working, I cannot imagine the scenario that saw her taking that job in earnest. I think the position was created to facilitate the relationship. (another questions is why- she must have been really, really fun in the bedroom to get over that face)

Happy was the toast of the town. Here she is enjoying a night out with Estée Lauder.

She reminds me of Dorinda on the RHONY

Happy was a whore, but so were Rocky and Kissinger.

Hell, despite being such a "loving" couple, it wasn't Happy that Rocky was fucking when he dropped dead. That was Megan Marshack, his 25 year-old "research assistant." After he died on top of her, Megan called a reporter friend who came over and re-staged the house for an hour before anyone called an ambulance for the former vice president.

She reminds me of Fred Armisen in drag.

OoooOoOooo I can see why the GOP wants to outlaw drag shows… she,s .absolutely scary

[quote] She bloodied my marital sheets at the St. Regis with her flow.

That was Marie Harriman, dear.

You just can’t compare it to today. Everyone back then was fucking everyone! There were no cell phones to sit and watch people fucking, so people fucked!!!

Happy got divorced from her 1st husband, as was legal and precedented at the time, and Nelson got divorced from his first wife, as was legal and precedented, and they remarried one another. Big deal.

Some of you are calling her a whore in order to be "funny," but it's actually just stupid. Getting divorced and re-marrying was not whorish in the 1960s. It had been legal since the 19th century.

How happy was Happy when Nelson died happy fucking the woman who really made him happy? 😜

She does look quite a bit like Harvey Korman in drag.

[quote] How happy was Happy when Nelson died happy fucking the woman who really made him happy? 😜

I would think she became quite the Merry Widow. After all, he was a Rockefeller and must have left her a fortune.

Happy always seemed to me one of those people who could have made the best of being snowed in at an airport lounge, organized everything and everyone, told a thousand stories and asked 1000 questions before the flights resumed.

Lady Lindzebelle was a bit too young at the time. Otherwise, Nelson, a rich and powerful politician, would have been a top gentleman caller for her.

@r23, All while her husband fucked every stewardess

Dude, was she born a man? Not being shady, I swear!

R26, don’t you understand?

She is a MAN.

Looks trans.

No, R28. This gentleman does NOT look trans.

Did she have both tits chopped off, or just one?

I can't remember.

I just remember hearing when I was a little kid about her and Betty Ford both getting boobs lopped off, and I was horrified. I was thinking "holy shit, what is going on with all these powerful Washington wives losing their knockers?"

They had to call her "Happy" because they sure as hell couldn't call her "Pretty."

"That's a man in a dress! And in the ladies bathroom! Call security! No, sir, you stay right there in that stall until the cops come to arrest you, you, you... pervert! Your husband is what? 'Husband?' Oh i knew you were one of them fags! SECURITY!!"

Nobody every confused Happy with Nancy Kissinger. Who is STILL ALIVE!! Now how did Henry ever keep Nancy in couture?

R31 That explains her kid sister, Stinky.

[quote]Happy was one hell of a stone cold broad!

Excuse me, OP, ex-c-u-u-se me. Having personally encountered Happy, I would like to set the record straight. My big brother dragged my friend Joey and me to the airport when Nelson was campaigning. We were getting shoved around and Happy looked at Joey and said, "Oh, you poor boy!".

She was a descendant of a 19th Century Philadelphia mayor, one Fitler( Fitler Square in Philly is named for him) and the distinguished Union general George Meade.

Nelson was signing his autograph and I stuck up hand to shake his and he signed an R on my hand in ballpoint ink.

@r34, I love all those upper-crust names, Buffy, Muffy, Happy... Sneezy, Goofy, Sleepy

Slim

Happy was indeed very mannish looking.

So many of these upper crust women do look like men. Most of them are very tall with the signature SJP horserace.

[quote]Some of you are calling her a whore in order to be "funny," but it's actually just stupid.

We are calling her out as a whore not because she had sex, but because she had sex with other women's husbands.

[quote]We are calling her out as a whore not because she had sex, but because she had sex with other women's husbands.

Oh puhleeze, r41.

"Barbara Bush was absolutely obsessed with having sex with Happy."

"Bar would have given all the Bush men's balls just for one lick of Happy's pussy."

Nelson had far more extramarital sex than she did.

She was comely (if not pretty) when she was younger--it was mostly in her later years she became so mannish.

Here's a photo of her with her infant son Nelson Jr. in 1964. She looks very appealing here.

Nelson was much better looking than either of his wives. I think he was looking for other things in these women, because he was always getting sex elsewhere. He was extremely close to his mother Abby, who was intelligent and vivacious but not a pretty woman by any stretch of the imagination; he seemed to seek out the same thing in the women he married; although he did divorce Mary after 32 years and 5 children for a woman 20 years younger than his ex.

Nelson and Mary shortly before the divorce.

Wedding Number Two

Happy, at least, was spared seeing Nelson dead on top of his girlfriend.

Or whatever it actually was.

Mom & Dad

Good lord, Abby Aldrich Rockefeller ar r49 makes Happy look like Miss America.

It was a good thing she was an Aldrich and was loaded.

Harpy Rockefeller, rather.

R12 Did she and Estée appear in a benefit concert of La Cage aux Folles?

R4/Babe dear, that was Marie "Philadelphia Ratfuck" Harriman, the second wife of Rockefeller's predecessor as Governor of New York.

The appearance of whose monthly friend forced Bill to be a washerwoman in the tub before he dried the sheets in the oven as you were on your way into the city from Idlewild.

The GOP are against drag shows because the models usually look like their wives. Just less makeup and better wigs

Happy makes Bar look like Grace Kelly.

She looks like a “Kids In The Hall” character in OP’s photo.

OP, you're a perfect cunt.

*applauds*

Little known fact: Happy Rockefeller was Pharrell Williams' inspiration for this song.

She dumped her kids for a zillionaire politician who ruled New York like a king.

What's the problem?

R33 They're both still alive, though God knows how (or why) up there in rural Connecticut.

She did like her couture though. She sat in front of me at one of his lectures chatting with Bob Kraft's girlfriend. Nancy was wearing a stark black and white outfit and told her it was "Galanos. Old Galanos."

Why he dressed her as an Emperor Penguin she didn't say or if she did, I missed that part.

From Wikipedia:

There has been speculation surrounding Malinda Fitler Menotti, the youngest daughter of Happy Rockefeller and Dr. James Slater Murphy, with many in the Rockefeller inner circle believing her to be Nelson Rockefeller's daughter. In his diary, Rockefeller intimate Ken Riland used a tone of knowing irony when mentioning Malinda, putting the word stepfather in quotes. Ellen, the wife of Wally Harrison, the architect and Nelson Rockefeller confidant, claimed that Malinda's parentage was an open secret among Rockefeller associates.

She sure was a handsome woman!

What did Malinda die of at age 45?

Among Second Ladies only Barbara Bush surpassed her handsomeness.

I don't believe for a second that this Happy Rockefeller was biologically a male.

A party gIrL? Probably... boyz, line up and tag team my manhole? Most likely. But a biological woman? No, certainly not.

Where did her four kids come from, R65? Her manhole?

They weren't adopted.

Her parents were Margaretta Large Harrison and William Wonderly Fitler Jr., an heir to a cordage fortune.

[quote]She dumped her kids for a zillionaire politician who ruled New York like a king.

I would dump my kids for a lot less.

Everyone liked Happy, but people weren't so found of her younger sisters, Surly and Distracted.

There were some real clock-stoppers among the Second Ladies of the United States.

This was Caro Dawes, the wife of Charles G. Dawes (Coolidge's VP).

This is why Jackie Kennedy got so much attention. Most political wives were HIDEOUS. It's always shocking when one of them is genuinely pretty.

Mariette Garner, wife of John Nance Garner, one of FDR's VPs.

R64 You rang?

If the info at R61 is correct, that means that Happy and Nelson "dumped" their own bio kid by leaving her in the custody of Happy's ex-husband.

Mariette Rheiner Garner must have longed for someone to quick invent collagen lip injections.

Fuck you, R70! Just for that I'm seating you downwind of Martin Van Buren.

Go look at the OP and tell me you don't see Bill Maher under there.

All I can find is that Happy's daughter Malinda died "very suddenly" at age 45 in 2005 (which might mean suicide). I could find no other information about her death (which would make sense if it's a suicide).

Interestingly, she married Francis Menotti, the son of the opera composer Gian Carlo Menotti.

It's so amazing to see some of these women openly displaying their neck waddles. Most heterosexual women of their political class today hide unsightly necks with scarves, like Marilyn Quayle is doing in the photo above.

R70, R72, Uncle Fester and John Wayne in fetid toupée wigs.

R21, But unlike Happy, Harvey Korman could pass for a biological woman.

R49, she looks like a young Marjorie Main.

[...]

That’s a man baby!

Bet she was a fan of Lilly Pulitzer and Sister Parish.

[quote] If the info at [R61] is correct, that means that Happy and Nelson "dumped" their own bio kid by leaving her in the custody of Happy's ex-husband

Happy outlived that kid by 10 years.

In OP's photo, Happy appears to have disgusting yellow and crooked teeth.

What's with so many wealthy people ignoring their dental hygiene? When you have that much money, there's no excuse to neglect your teeth.

The Queen Mother's teeth were hideous. She could surely have afforded veneers or at least had them covered with bonding material. And no, her teeth didn't need to look blinding white, they could have simply looked normal.

Why did Happy have to surrender custody of her four kids to get a divorce? Was joint custody not a thing in the early 60s?

Can any elder gays weigh in?

I think maybe fighting for child custody was considered scandalous after the Gloria Vanderbilt case.

[quote]It's so amazing to see some of these women openly displaying their neck waddles. Most heterosexual women of their political class today hide unsightly necks with scarves, like Marilyn Quayle is doing in the photo above.

Can't they afford to travel with a lighting designer expert in the art of "neck shadow"?

R88 She agreed to it, and as such was deemed an unfit mother by the country if not by the courts. Nelson's kids by Mary were adults by then. The custody battled resumed after Dr. Murphy re-married, although the judge (a Rockefeller appointee) didn't change the custody arrangements at all.

I was also told that Dr. Murphy was royally pissed off at them. Murphy was a boyhood chum of Mr. Rockefeller’s brother David who followed his father, Dr. James B. Murphy, a renowned cancer researcher, into the Rockefeller Institute in New York in 1950. He became a noted virologist there. The Murphy and Rockefeller families were neighbors in Manhattan, had summer homes in Seal Harbor, Me., and shared social orbits. The Murphys even built a home near the Rockefeller estate, Kykuit, at Pocantico Hills, overlooking the Hudson River in Westchester County that she still had at the time of her death.

Rockefeller, his friend and in a sense employer, cuckolded him and while she may have been Happy, her ex-husband wasn't happy at all.

Happy was a big time drunk & a sloppy one at that. Rumor was Nelson got fed up with her sloppy drunken ways & began with all the side pieces. Also, that he was angry that he gave up his shot at being President for this slob of a drunk. Their scandalous divorce w. kid abandonment put an end to that dream. Word was she was a REAL drunk. I'm talking piss your pants, fall down type.

The local republications in Ulster/Greene County cleared up the mess when he croaked in the act & knew & spilled much of the tales of his utter disgust with Happy.

In Op's shot she has the drunk 'red nose' poorly conclealed with that darker shade make-up on the widened tip(also a by product of being a drunk).

My father's family is from North Tarrytown and the gossip was wild with the affair between Rocky and Happy.

WASPy good looks

The look of love

Old school

Year book picture

In the OP's photo, it looks like she has a nose made of Silly Putty, does look like some health issues, (drunk?) or maybe she lied a lot in her day.

Modern art

I'm so old I recall when Rockefeller's wife encountered Happy by accident before she and Nelson went public. She remarked: she looks like me when I was young.

Back in the 60's my mother and father saw them, shortly after their marriage, in Maine - either Seal Island or Bar Harbor - parked next to them at an overlook by the Atlantic one summer evening when they were stargazing or whale or waves and water watching. There were only the two cars there, no lights, the car windows were down, there was apparently small talk, and as my mother's side of the car was closer to Rocky's door, she asked if they'd seen anything that evening having zero clue who they were. Politics were not her forte.

Rockefeller's reply to them, smiling, was that they were there for the submarine races. My Dad chuckled but Mom didn't quite get it at the time, she said. Everything was pleasant and my parents left soon after. As they were turning the car around and driving out he and Happy were already outlined in their headlights in what might be politely described as a loving embrace or as Mom said, "going at it like teenagers." Mom looked at Dad and asked, "What does that have to with submarines?" He said "Somebody's here for a deep dive" and proceeded to explain not only what "submarine races" meant, but who was racing.

I wonder if her kids from the first marriage ever forgave her trading them in for cash.

Her son Mark Rockefeller is quite handsome.

Socially progressive of course.

Happy Rockefeller's NYT obituary

From her yearbook pic and a few of her other pics, she was actually attractive. It's amazing she became so...far on the other spectrum. Not just old, but really misshapen and odd looking.

Also, I truly thought OPs pic was an old man in drag, having never heard of Happy Rockefeller (I'm 54 and sheepishly admit to being quite ignorant of all things Rockefeller).

Unlike some other women of her class and cohort Happy Rockefeller was one of those who didn't seem to place a high value on fighting aging process.

Like good number of other WASP women then HR just simply went with hand nature had dealt as she aged.

No plastic surgery, minimal cosmetics, not even an effort to tame those eyebrows by plucking or whatever.

r87, Happy Rockefeller was born in 1926, the Queen Mother in 1900. While orthodonture was available when both women born, it was much less effective (and braces were far harder to make, and usually took forever to install because they wrapped around each tooth individually). It wasn't until the late 1950s--when Happy would have been an adult woman--that it became much more common for many upper-class and middle-class people in the US to have braces put on children. As for getting teeth whitened: the modern techniques that popularized teeth-whitening at the dentists only became good by the early 1990s or so. By then Happy would have been in her seventies, so why would she care when so few other people of her generation (especially on the East Coast) care? Especially given that she was rich and pretty much embodied the Establishment. No one was going to go up to Happy at the yacht club cotillion and say, "Oh Madam Second Lady, your teeth are yellow and crooked."

As for the Queen Mother: not only was she born in 1900, but she lived her entire life in the UK, where orthodontics did not become popular until just a few decades ago. Besides, just as Happy was too old, too rich, and too important to care where standards changed about teeth care, the same was even more true for the Queen Mother, who was 24 when she became a duchess and 36 when she became queen. Why would she care about whether her teeth were pretty to American commoners like us born decades and decades after she was?

Lady in a Chinese garden

Fitler? She was a teenager during WWII and her last name was FITLER?

Well, no wonder.

what an ugly bitch!

The 25-year-old he was fucking when he had a heart attack wasn't a great beauty either, just 45 years younger than he. He really had a thing for unattractive women. Maybe they tried harder in bed?

My mind always goes to Megan Marshak when Rocky's name comes up. He was quite the scoundrel. She never discussed it. Unlike fame whore Monica.

He was a good governor in many ways.

I always remember the Saturday after Nelson Rockefeller died, Don Pardo announced at the very beginning of SNL, "Tonight's episode of 'Emergency!', starring Megan Marshak, will not be seen tonight so we may bring you the following special presentation."

Marshak completely fell off the radar. Paid off.

People who knew her said that she was determined to land a rich man to take care of her. She spent several years as Rocky's well-kept mistress and was set for life afterwards.

"Marshack, a former Associated Press Radio night editor, was hired as a $60,000-year aide in Manhattan after Rockefeller finished serving as President Gerald Ford's vice president in 1977. Marshak was also given a $45,000 interest-free loan so she could buy a co-op two doors from Rockefeller's luxurious townhouse."

Rockefeller forgave that $45k loan in his will.

They say when a man marries his mistress it creates a vacancy, Nelson Rockefeller doesn't sound like sort of man who could keep his tackle confined to marriage bed.

Same Megan Marshack?

"She is survived by her nephew, Jon Marshack of Sacramento, and her niece, Megan Marshack of Placerville (El Dorado County)."

In his novel An Inconvenient Woman, Dominick Dunne based the heart attack scenario of magnate Jules Mendelson on Rockafeller's death. Mendelson lingered for a few weeks. The mistress was based on Vicki Morgan, Alfred Bloomingdale's mistress, but that's another story.

Scandale!

Happy was no Kennedy wife, that’s for sure.

Young mistress Megan Marshack

I can totally see where Ms Lana Del Rey got her 70s fading gold tinted Vixen realness from

Distinguished Gentlemen of a bygone age

Betty’s Guests: Liz, hubby [no.?] John Warner, and Happy at a British Embassy party thrown by QE II in Washington DC, 1976

Let’s just say it sure was a Happy 😊 Ending!

She still had contact with the children from the fgirst marriage when she divorced her first husband. While i was trying to find out what happened to Malinda, I found photos of her as a preteen with her mother on foreign trips when Happy was First Lady.

It's funny to me how many political wives used to have odd nicknames they gained in the nursery: Tipper Gore (real name Elizabeth), of course, Lady Bird Johnson (real name Claudia), etc. I guess rich people liked naming their children longer names after deceased family members and then giving them silly nicknames.

Pat Nixon was really named Thelma, but she came from a poor family.

r116 How could you have not highlighted this wonderful quote from that article:

[quote]Another time, she got a call from Joan Crawford and refused to put her call through to Rockefeller, as instructed. The movie star screamed profanities at Van Wie before slamming down the phone.

[quote]Little known fact: Happy Rockefeller was Pharrell Williams' inspiration for this song.

In her party girl days, this was the song they sang about her.

r118 Probably. Megan M. went to my alma mater, UC Davis, so it would make sense that she had a Sacramento connection. I had no idea there was a connection to Stanton Delaplane, who was a very prominent columnist in SF for decades.

Megan Marshack was born in 1953 according to the internet and would be about 70 now. The obit posted above does not appear to be here. A relative perhaps?

Margaretta Large Fitler

Hello, that the original Large Marge

Since Rocky's happy ending atop Megan, there's been only a couple of photos of her.

She could have sold her story for a million dollars easily. Instead, she kept quiet and has not spoken about the incident from that day to this.

She was paid off.

Betsy Bloomingdale may very well have had Vicki Morgan killed after her husband Alfred Blooingdale, the department store zillionaire, died while fucking her, and Vicki threatened to expose secrets about him. Vicki died under very suspicious circumstances.

At least Happy didn't do that with Megan Marshack (so far as we know, Megan is still alive).

[quote] I wonder if her kids from the first marriage ever forgave her trading them in for cash.

That was a much more common occurrence back in the day then you would have thought. And at that income level and in that world of East Coast WASPs from Old Money, children were and are still mostly raised by their nannies and sent off to boarding schools as early as possible anyway.

Also, Happy still saw them regularly (she was not denied visiting rights).

Nicknames were more common in the past. Both my grandmothers and my dad were known by their nicknames. And, my mom and both her brothers used their middle names as their "main" name.

R132, That's why anyone who climbs on top of me needs to sign a waiver.

[quote]Nicknames were more common in the past.

They still are, y'all. Just asks Mags and Paw Paw.

Oh, that's right. You can't. I killed 'em.

He was a Rockefeller, so "fuck them kids!" Any child would be happy to have Nelson as a step daddy. All that money that mommy might help you get. Child, I wish my mother snagged a millionaire.

R126

WASP families in USA imported that nickname thing from their British "cousins" as it were, or perhaps UK roots.

Nicknames within the BRF, noble and upper classes in UK have been common for ages. It still goes on today..

[quote] She was known for her relaxed charm, and was inclined to be so frank that when her husband was campaigning for President in 1968, his staff established a rule that she was not to be quoted directly.

Too bad. No interesting stories, quips or anecdotes then. This thread is just about the crass worship of money.

[quote] She could have sold her story for a million dollars easily. Instead, she kept quiet

Honey trap.

But probably not a foreign agent. Probably an American agent assigned to keep Rocky on the straight and narrow, and keep her fucking mouth shut or they’d kill her.

"In 1970, while in Los Angeles, 54-year-old Alfred Bloomingdale began an affair with 18-year-old Vicki Morgan. For 12 years, Bloomingdale kept her in a luxurious apartment, showering her with expensive clothing, jewelry, and cars.[1] When Alfred was diagnosed with terminal cancer, his wife Betsy cut off Morgan's allowance.[1][12] Soon after, the affair with Vicki Morgan made headline news as its unsubstantiated and sordid details, which included allegations of sado-masochistic activities instigated by Bloomingdale, were made public after Morgan filed a multimillion-dollar palimony lawsuit against Bloomingdale's estate. Morgan eventually moved into a condominium in the San Fernando Valley where she rented a room to a schizophrenic named Marvin Pancoast, whom she knew from the withdrawal clinic. In July 1983, Pancoast beat her to death with a baseball bat.[1][12] The courts awarded Morgan $200,000 after her death from Bloomingdale's estate."

Marvin Pancoast ended up dying in prison of HIV/AIDS related illnesses.

Alfred Bloomingdale's fancy woman was streets hotter than that mess Nelson Rockefeller knocked about with....

Hot damn! John David Carson!

Those funds paid out by Bloomingdale estate to that of Vicki Morgan likely were in support of her son. Lawsuit continued even after Ms. Morgan had been murdered and likely Betsy Bloomingdale just wanted entire sordid business to just go away.

What the hell are you fools talking about?

I thought this was a thread about Margarita Rockefeller! Not the sordid felonies of UES horn dogs in America's Filthiest Decade!

How odd if Malinda was actually the daughter of Happy and Nelson.

That would mean she wasn't acknowledged by her bio parents and didn't grow up with them or her full blood brothers.

Instead, she would be living with Happy's first husband and half siblings.

What a dumb name.

Megan Marshak when she worked for Rockefeller.

What a beauty!

Happy and Rocky had built up a delightful porcelain collection, like this colourful crab-form tureen and cover, from the Qianlong period, mid-Qing Dynasty

Bill Maher in drag.

^ for some odd reason, DL is not allowing me to link to the Sotheby’s site, where the cute crab container is from

Well, if you’re interested, just copy and paste the text below and Google for it:

[quote] SOTHEBY’S MAGAZINE Inside the Prize Porcelain Collection of Nelson and Happy Rockefeller

Megan Marshack looked like Rainn Wilson (Dwight Schrute) in drag.

It's clear Nelson Rockefeller had a type for mannish women. But he wanted them young.

Sotheby’s probably does not allow hotlinking or back links. Many websites don't....

[QUOTE]Betsy Bloomingdale may very well have had Vicki Morgan killed after her husband Alfred Blooingdale, the department store zillionaire, died while fucking her

Bloomingdale died of throat cancer.

This side piece (allegedly) went on to use her notoriety to snag other rich, powerful men. They were curious about her in bed, willing to take the risk after her putting one in the grave, so took her on as a mistress. One name often linked to her was former Gov Pat Brown of California. Can’t remember the other names. She’s probably sitting on a ton of money, all derived from hush money.

She ha goot poosy

Nelson wanted a bed partner who wouldn't piss & puke while in a drunken stupor.

Op's pic. says it all...Happy typical "Red Nose" Aka Drunk.

After seeing that picture at OP, I'm paging the Hanging Columella guy!

R152- That porcelain crab is both beautiful and adorable!

That crab is fucking amazing. It sent me down an antique rabbit hole!!! It’s still shocking to me how the market has dried up. But I love a few bespoke pieces about the house, or just one.

In the 60's my friend mom was Bunny. I thought that was strange.

Bill Paley's socialite wife was called "Babe."

I really thought that was a man. Wow. And then there is the story of them going at it in the car. Rocky must’ve been easily influenced or he loved her or…something.

Rocky, clearly, loved a surprise when he removed a "lady's" panties.

Many WASP women grow into what once was called "handsome" as they age.

Again much of this likely comes from their refusal to have things done, avoiding too much or any slap and so forth. It often doesn't help a good many of these women love their booze.

OTOH you have great beauties like Babe Paley who made an effort right up until day they died.

R165 and her girlfriend Nancy “Slim” Hawks Haywood Keith, the last as Lady Keith, along with Babe Paley was one of Capote’s transparently veiled characters (Lady Ina Coolbirth) in “Answered Prayers.”

My mother had friends in the 1960s named Bunny and Sissy.

R168 I think it is overstating things a bit much to say I was the best-dressed woman of all time.

Surely, there was someone from long ago, now completely forgotten, who might, on one or two nights, deserve such a title.

Was someone else in, say, ancient Rome inventive enough to tie a lovely French scarf around the handle of a very now Italian bag?

Perhaps, not. But who, really, knows?

Rocky went down that road.

Babe, how long you been with us now? I can recall what seems like years.

R173 A lady never reveals she's even been on Datalounge, much less how long.

I've noticed many of these society women are very mannish looking and severely underweight.

Straight rich men enjoy fuckling a bag of bones?!

DL fave Somers Farkas comes to mind. If this woman doesn't look trans, I don't know who does!

My uncle is a total flamer. He married my father's horrific witch of a sister. All skin and bones and a 1980s Richard Simmons perm for the last 40+ years.

She's such a frigid bitch. Pretty sure he's been tagging manholes for decades.

Cannot speak for all, but common reason women like Babe Paley, Slim Keith and others in that circle (or adjacent) strived to remain rail thin was so they could fit into couture model sample garments.

These women of course spent money at French haute couture houses; as such good customers they often were allowed a chances to purchase model samples when they became surplus to requirements. Since those garments were fitted onto fashion models unless one was same size (or damned close) one couldn't get into them, so there you are.

There was a period of time during the "supermodel" era when things favored more curvaceous women, but that soon was all over and "straight size 0" was back.

If you've ever seen a couture or even ready to wear sample you wonder if model was older than 14 and if she ever ate anything. The fucking garments look like something for a doll or child.

In what world is this remotely attractive?

R162/r163: it’s really quite a gem isn’t it

Here’s a more frontal view, where you can see its features better

R178 and you thought Bony Maronie was just a song…

r175: Somers's skin has the appearance (and I would bet also the feel) of pebbled orange vinyl.

R177 I read every word of that article . Wow. Just amazing The clothes are more important than the models life.

Was Happy really happy or just simply delightful?

Proper WASP. Leave the tacky trendy outfits to the non WASPS. I really miss classic elegance.

In OP's photo she looks so much like an illustration from The Preppy Handbook I'm starting to think she was the illustrator's paradigm of preppy WASP matron.

[quote]I've noticed many of these society women are very mannish looking and severely underweight.

Social x-rays.

She looked like Ian McKellen!

Somers looks dreadful with her scorched skin and skeletal frame. She has great taste in fashion etc but not a healthy take on herself it seems. I think she has channeled Nan Kempner, but lacks Nan’s sense of humor and sense of fun.

This is a funny thread- throw back to the old days of DL.

Has someone pointed out how Happy’s dynamic hubby died?

At least ten or more times upthread, Charlie. Maybe more.

Have you more to add?

As I recall, Charlie knew Nan personally.

I won't say how, as Charlie once did, as it leads too much of a trail of breadcrumbs.

golf, tennis, beach, boating, and copious bloody marys.

they did eat celery.

Looking at Mrs. Rockefeller's photos, it's clear that she was full of testosterone, unusual for a woman, but it happens. This means she was probably lively, horny, and assertive. Nelson was probably infatuated with her, and she likely put out happily and regularly.

How did their affair, pre-divorce, come to public notice?

I have a memory - but can find no photos - of Mrs. Murphy being rescued on a fire ladder from some Rockefeller residence where one might not expect to find her in the middle of the night.

Happy was a MAN.

But supposedly Happy bore children. Are you saying they were purchased?

Happy was trans. And threw the first brick at Stonewall.

We owe her all of our civil rights.

That's why we say, "Happy Pride!"

As women age, they look more masculine. As men age, they look more feminine. It's a thing.

More incredible that Rocky could still get it up (for the 25-year-old). What did they use before Viagra? Anything?

[quote]What did they use before Viagra? Anything?

Tennis bracelets.

Menopause hits some women like a wrecking ball. Skin loses elasticity with drops female hormones and there's, for some women, an increase in androgen levels so appearance can masculinize. There's huge variation across individuals.

Also remember that she had a double mastectomy and treatment that can induce early menopause.

Happy Motherfucker

Given the eighteen-year age gap, she was something closer to Happy Fatherfucker.

Oral skills, Rose

Happy Fitler Murphy Rockefeller?

Happy Fitler Murphy NASTY!

Used to go with various female friends when they went shopping at high end consignment shops on UES of Manhattan.

Many of things being sold came obviously from women in area and couldn't believe how small much of merchandise was; mostly 0, 1, 2 through maybe size 4 or 6 with last two often outliers.

Ironically several skinny boy or trans easily found things that fit. That gives you an idea of just how such clothing was designed and who it was going to fit.

Few people one knows would see Tina Louise at Vanderbilt YMCA back in 1990's while working out. One was a trans who had no idea who was the ginger skeleton giving her nasty looks. Member of staff told her after she asked and couldn't believe it was same person as on television.

Trans had imagined Tina Louise was some stacked bombshell like Marilyn Monroe; couldn't cloy that image with the bag of bones in leotard and tights parading about the gym as if she was Miss America.

I love how Tina gives waiters and department store employees the “Don’t you know who I am” line when she wants service!

And a very hairy Harry at that r2.

One of my best friends moved to NY after graduating high school. She went to Alvin Ailey in September 1989 and got a job at Danskin part-time. Tina Louise came in regularly like a cunt on wheels and pulled the "Don't you know who I am" with her all the time. I have to call her because I'm forgetting a really funny story about her and what all the employees thought of her.

Anyway, she said that Tina was never polite or even decent. She needed to make everyone feel small and that she was the queen. Miserable bitch.

Tina is such a bitter old slag.

Tina Louise better not come near me. I’ll remind her that on her way down, she had to do deodorant commercials.

Considering how many times she says "wetness" in R210 video, the writer of that commercial was hysterical and a genius. He probably rewrote it after seeing her in action and knew she was a frigid, dried up bitch and obviously was mocking her.

I was half asleep when I read OP's post earlier and thought that Happy was married to Nelson Mandela.

I,too, have Jessica Tate moments on this thread. I once knew the history of these bitches and it slipped away.