Resumes including 'they/them' pronouns are more likely to be overlooked, new report finds

This is the least shocking headline since that one that said that straight poly people are ugly.

They used a beautiful butch lesbian for the cover photo of this article...why?

OP, do you set google alerts for trans and non-binary?

You really should touch grass more often

Why would you have pronouns on a resume?

Is this candidate the best qualified for the job?

If so, then yes of course I would hire a person who uses they/them pronouns. I'm not a narrow-minded, backward thinking bigot. I just want the most qualified person for the job.

Not a businessperson ^

[quote]Why would you have pronouns on a resume?

How else would employers know I'm special?

R7 and that’s why I wouldn’t hire them—more focused on their identity than on the job.

That’s because those candidates may as well write “I‘m an unhinged attention seeker“ at the top of their resume.

My company sent a memo that adding pronouns to our work email signatures was optional. I passed, but would have loved to add:

He/Him/Throatwobbler Mangrove

Oh dear, R10.

It's Throat WARBLER Mangrove.

Can you imagine how difficult it would be to fire a pronoun junkie?

Employers usually want candidates who elect correct grammar. Dumb narcissistic cunts.

R4, exactly. I don’t have one he or I on my resume. Maybe these candidates do not know how to write.

R12 😆. I wish In Living Color was still around. They’d do a sketch of the firing of a they/them and how confusing it would be of who actually was being fired for all the parties involved. SNL would never be so daring.

R2 is disingenuous. Many of the non-binaries, as well as the trans men - both totally bullshit categories, obviously - are lesbians. They may not call themselves that, they may be trying to run away from it, but many of them are women who are attracted to women, i.e. lesbians.

[quote]A friend of mine who works in recruiting won't extend interview offers to people who call out their pronouns in their resume/email signature. That also goes for people who include photos of themselves, calling out their age, or include their race in a resume or cover letter. If you call out that you are a protected class in your resume, you just told your interviewers that you are. A lot of HR people won't touch that with a 10ft pole, because that now brings the question of did your declaration alter the judgement of those that interviewed you? That is why the EEO parts are usually not shown to the hiring manager.

Over the years, I've had a handful of students (university) with they/them pronouns. In all the cases, unfortunately, my initial reaction was, "Ugh, this student is going to be extra work/cause extra problems." It was true in only one case, and I was later embarrassed by my assumptions regarding the students, most of whom turned out to be lovely.

Now, it's more common to have students with "she/her or they/them" pronouns, rather than just "they/them."

However, from an employer's standpoint, I can also see how including "they/them" pronouns might be a red flag.

Will they come to work with gigantic phony tits that they claim are natural? We've had enough of that.

Those hiring with a goal and looking for the best qualified myself being one of such professionals) know that the pronouns are unrelated to worth as an employee. They are commonly used in all manner of employ from industry , to finance, to academia. They are optional.

Nice try OP. Trollin trollin.

You’re telling them now so you won’t have to tell them later.

R20, did you miss that OP provided a link to a CNBC article?

R20 do you speak English?

If so, try again.

Employers must be so careful nowadays. They should really just stick to Straight, White Male employees and shitcan the rest of the candidates.

That keeps things simple and clear. I'm sure all you TERFs would support that approach to hiring, since you're so "concerned" about companies possibly having troublesome employees.

Thank you, R11!

We know you're serious, R24.

R23, yes I do. So read my post again you dunce and try hard to account for the typos. I have faith that even you can figure it out.

They/them = excessive drama, attention-seeking, and complaints of misgendering and disrespect. Nobody has time to deal with all that.

R24 It's a good thing you told us you were trolling and being funny, we never would have known, and way to bring up terfs too. You're incredibly clever! Shouldn't you go dilate?

To be fair, most of these students so twisted up in their shorts over what their pronouns are aren’t getting degrees in computing or engineering. They are taking courses in gender studies and intersectionality. Nothing actually useful, so they won’t get hired.

r30 I have had just as many STEM students with non-conventional pronouns as students in the humanities and social sciences

Interesting, R31. It’s not the case I’ve seen at the university where I work.

They think they'll get hired because they're politically correct, but to me it just announces trouble. They're the ones who'll sue you for tripping over a book they saw on the ground from ten metres away, or claim sexual harassment for your admiring their new shirt, haircut etc.

R33, I would think so. Also, as demonstrated by R24, there is a lot of animosity towards women among the they/them crowd. How can they then work alongside women? What employer wants to deal with the ramifications of that?

Comments like r24 lead me to think that a TERF is anyone who believes in material reality, biology & science.

So I guess language does evolve…quickly.

How dare you call me a 'he' when I stated I identify as a 'she' on my resume! I am suing you for harassment!

Why hire someone who thinks their unconventional fucking pronouns and special gender identity should be on a damn resume.

It's already all over people's LinkedIn and social media, be they transgender or not.

What happens when clients aren't interested in bending to what the employee wants to be called?

I identify as a cunt but I can't put that on my resume

R40/R42, looks like you're in the wrong thread.

Makes sense. Nobody needs to deal with that drama queen nonsense at work.

I want to be Thee/Thou and tell everyone I'm a non binary Quaker.

r42 right thread.

when people would fire you over joining a softball team,

then being fired or not hired over pronouns seems rather silly

supposedly qualifications matter to most people... but end of the day, they all find their excuses to justify their biases, no?

Special pronouns are too much work. No thanks. I will only hire normal applicants.

Maybe around 2015-6, it was usually the useless gender studies type.

But for years, worse after the pandemic, I have seen lots of mentally ill pronouns crowd with real biology, engineering, hard science, medicine degrees.

As I said, R47, just stick to Straight, White, Male applicants. It's the only way to spare yourself all that work and skip any possible drama!

R46, you don't see the difference between joining a softball team versus demanding that non-believers adhere to the religious rituals of transgenderism?

r47 Then you could be charged with discrimination and violating protections for lgbt

however, most legal reviews say you're not compelled to use ones pronouns.

but you've already outed yourself as refusing to hire someone based on your biases.,. so, here's to your discrimination suits.

No drama here!

r50 religion is protected, too, little bigot.

Gee, OP, this hate-troll-thread isn't working out quite the way you planned it, now is it?

r52 is that your equivalent of:

Yes R47, you've already outed yourself on an anonymous forum as being one of the millions of people who thinks they/them pronouns are ridiculous. You'd better change your name and leave town lest the discrimination suits come flying at you!

R53, freedom from religion (like transgenderism) is protected. How many employers encourage employees to write religious stuff in their work emails?

I’m more afraid of not being hired because of not posting my pronouns!!

r52 Yes, "They/Them" thing with real STEM degrees! This is the state of American government.

Department of Energy (www.energy.gov/ne/person/sam-brinton):

[quote] [bold]They identify as[/bold] gender-fluid and use the [bold]pronouns they, them, and theirs.[/bold]

R54 it’s working as expected, only you’re too dumb to realize that.

so, you don't believe in the law and you're trying to incite others here to act against the U.S. govt?

I'd say it's working out fine R54, everyone agrees this shit is ridiculous.

Can you imagine all the *cis* white hetero men working there referring to Sam Brinton as "can you give it to them*" "it's their* office" among while talking themselves?

so, which party will you be voting for in 2024?

Everyone saying these people can invite trouble are not wrong. I work at a large company and all the employees had to go through sensitivity and bias training a while ago. We were told by an attorney that we could be fired for misgendering someone. Even if it was the first time and even if it was by mistake. It would be completely up to the person who was misgendered to decide your fate.

It should not be surprising that anyone would want to avoid such perilous people.

It's kinda funny to see an article like this considering that so many employers ask on their job applications what sex you are, what race you are, etc. I'm currently job hunting and every single time I fill out an application, the last section is usually a series of questions with drop-down menus so that you can indicate your race, gender (with the options being male, female or prefer not to answer), veteran status, and if you are disabled. Granted, they state that these questions are for "reporting purposes" only and that you're not obligated to answer but they do include them.

r65 do you think the same kind of excuses were used against lgbt?

R68 No, because people don't go around an office having to use people's sexuality when speaking to them or about them. There's no change in language needed when a person is gay.

Clear enough for you?

I refuse to write he/him, because it reads as aggressive and cis/white. However, that's implied by excluding it, which just reinforces cis-gender as the default normative identity.

I'm not being facetious.

Resumes including 'they/them' pronouns are overlooked..Quelle Surprise.

Yup its a cis plot..actually its literal rape, torture & murder.

Oh, thank God. Most people can tell these people are mentally ill.

Wouldn’t required pronouns trigger the dysphoric?

I wouldn’t want to see any pronouns on a resume.

I wish a new pronoun had been invented instead of one that is already known to mean something else. I work with several “they/them” pronoun colleagues and, in conversation, it’s totally confusing. Most of the time, one knows who you are talking about, especially in the context of a group project.

^. No one knows who you are talking about…

Well duh. No one wants to deal with a hysterical loser freaking out because someone "misgendered" them.

I'd go with names only, R78. It's not natural to avoid 3rd person pronouns in the natural course of speech but that's the only way to avoid confusion about the 'them's.

Language developed the 3rd person pronouns for brevity without sacrificing clarity. 'My pronouns' is language torture, pure and simple, and goes against the very function of language as means of communication.

One of your average DLer's biggest fantasies is that they're in charge of hiring or admissions, and they keep the vaginas, the coloreds, the spics, and the trannies out of universities and jobs at every available opportunity.

[quote]I work with several “they/them” pronoun colleagues and, in conversation, it’s totally confusing.

It can't possibly be. Just use their name when referring to them, or use "they" like you would use "they" if you were talking about a client you didn't know the gender of yet.

We've used "they" as a singular pronoun for centuries.

[quote]We were told by an attorney that we could be fired for misgendering someone. Even if it was the first time and even if it was by mistake. It would be completely up to the person who was misgendered to decide your fate.

You were not.

Good.

I'd be more likely to hire a "they/them" than I would someone with facial tattoos.

[quote] They used a beautiful butch lesbian for the cover photo of this article...why? —ugh don't drag us into this

r2 Looking like that = Automatically a (female) homosexual to you? Sexual orientation has nothing to do with how one looks (I know feminine/non-masculine lesbians and masculine/androgynous bisexuals and even tomboyish total straights).

Do you know her identity/name to call her a lesbian? Do you know if she even *identifies as* (= delusion in her mentally ill mind) a woman or still has her boobs?

I found her big pic used here, exactly next to the text "WHAT IS FTM TOP SURGERY?" (including "transmasculine individuals" aka not yet trans but variation of 'they/them non-binaries' too) from plasticsurgeryrenotahoe.com

[quote] It can't possibly be. Just use their name when referring to them, or use "they" like you would use "they" if you were talking about a client you didn't know the gender of yet.

[quote]We've used "they" as a singular pronoun for centuries.

Just stop with this bullshit. All of us here have been speaking English for our whole lives and we all know it is completely unnatural to use a singular they when you know exactly the person you are talking about and that that person is 100% male or female, always has been, and always will be. Using a person's name continuously in conversation sounds not only unnatural but ridiculous.

R78, I agree. I’m 46. A friend of similar age and I just had this conversation and shared frustration that plurals were used as the generic singulars. For us, the issues were (1) feeling like they/them is grammatically improper in this context and (2) through this usage giving a person the treatment like a group.

For me, a third issue is that when gay or bi people want to discuss a date honestly without disclosing gender in the past, they/them were used. While this gives some support for this new usage, the historical usage is shame-riddled.

Lord, why not ze, zer, zers? Or be on the nose as X is often used for substitution and to denote mystery—xe, xim, sera pronounced with a Z sound?

They/them/theirs is so triggering that I want to devolve to it/it/its.

I meant xe/xim/xers.

R8 “Keep driving women voters into our arms.”

It’s really not because Republican women are just as hateful and crazy.

Remember, 40% of slaveowners in the US were female.

R42 A gay person doesn't need 24/7 validation. He is just gay. Pronoun people and trans need others to "validate" them every moment of the day. By hiring, you also risk losing good employees for bullshit made up crimes like misgendering. I understand the reluctance.

To the person above who said there were drop down menus in applications that asked for race. I recently headed up a search committee at work and we were told by HR that we were explicitly forbidden to ask about race. People could volunteer it. I was asked to fill out a form afterward the hiring which asked for summary of candidates. I was told if a candidate did not volunteer race to state that and not to go on perception as I may get it wrong.

R93, that sounds like they want to collect the information but don’t want you to ask the question. Was this in the context of you conducting interviews?

I have also seen the race/gender/veteran/disabled questions at the end of online job apps. Pretty much all of the larger firms I applied to.

This explains why I wasn't hired the time I applied to for a job as a fisherthem!

Shhh! Don't tell them. Keep tiresome trans and performative sjw's out of the workplace alongside racists, homophobes, and anti-vaxxers.

R94, yes after the interviews were completed there was a summary form. It also asked for number and dates of interviews, where we advertised and some other stuff. But I never saw a form that asked for race/ethnicity that was submitted to the candidates. No one volunteered it either. As for perception it is true you can get it wrong. Mixed race people are sometimes hard to determine (especially Asian/White), Native Americans can look very White or be mistaken for Asian or Hispanic depending on amount of White ancestry. One guy I absolutely pegged as Chicano or Native American turned out to be Filipino. The Spanish name threw me off as well in his case. (I found out outside the hiring process as he was gay and our social circles overlapped slightly )

In at least one large firm I know of, all employees are "strongly encouraged" to put their pronouns in their email signoff block, because otherwise the they/them/zhe/zhirs/etc feel called out because they're the only ones with pronouns specified.

What bullshit.

Next, to make furries more comfortable, we'll all be "strongly encouraged" to mention what species we identify as.

I need to have R4's question answered. Before this thread, the linked article and all the concern trolling makes any sense at all.

I'm curious as to the mechanism of how this started and who made it 'official' as it's seemed to take over the world in a hurry. Also is this a particularly american phenomenon?

I wish we had been as successful, R100.

[quote]or use "they" like you would use "they" if you were talking about a client you didn't know the gender of yet. We've used "they" as a singular pronoun for centuries.

The singular they is used in English in very specific constructions where it has to be preceded by indefinite pronouns like somebody, or undefined "member of a class" nouns like 'a student'. You cannot use it just by itself out of thin air, it has to refer back to a an indefinite noun or noun-substitute. As R88 said, once the indefinite person you're referencing is known to you, English grammar will refer to that person as either he or she.

Any resume that includes pronouns should be thrown in the dumpster. I can hear the caterwauling to HR already if they were onboarded.

I am not hiring that land behemoth

R99, their pronouns are probably listed right after their names on the resumes. In the same font type and size.

R89, why not just share bio sex instead of gender. No one is really interested in "gender".

How very...trussed...r104.

R51 Nope. No one would ever charge an out gay man with discrimination against they.thems. So no worries there! But keep on fretting my pet. You seem unhinged.

Life has consequences. If you are unwilling or unable to decide what gender you are, then I sure as hell am not hiring you to work at my business. All I ask is that you pick male or female and stick with it. If that is not possible, then you are not a fit on my team. Please and thank you.

I might hire they to do retail.

"The pronouns...the pronouns" --OP, quivering under his desk

When making recommendations for open positions at work, I intentionally exclude people in my network that have their pronouns on their resume or LinkedIn profile. Just like with godbotherers, I don't want to work with someone that believes in that shit and I wouldn't want to be the one responsible for that person joining the team.

R112 even if it's a person who just has he/him, she/her?

Christ, you're a moron.

So a pronoun person who is a member of MCC is definitely out, R112.

[quote]You really should touch grass more often

He really should smoke grass more often

Discrimination happens ALL the time in hiring. Someone in my own family who was in charge of hiring said they would never hire a fat person because it's an indication of laziness. Friends have told me they won't hire certain races because "stereotypes exist for a reason."

I have a name that, when shortened could be for a male or female. I happen to be a female in a male dominated profession. I would send out my resume with my full name (indicating I'm a woman) and would get zero responses. Once I shortened it to the name that can be either male or female, I got calls.

This is how the world works and people who are naive enough to think it doesn't happen are gonna have a very rude awakening when they try to get hired.

I find that hard to believe since employers are clamoring to get diversity points by hiring women R116

[quote]Is this candidate the best qualified for the job?

R5 Anyone with they/them pronouns stated on their resume is by default not the best qualified person for the job because it shows a clear lack of critical thinking.

Anyone with they/them pronouns is mentally ill, and therefore not appropriate for most jobs.

It’s Sybil.

I hate people who complicate my life more.

HR and people who hire are too smart to get involved with people who create a problem before they start. Good to know automated systems weed out people who have no sense of self-worth.

[quote]Why would you have pronouns on a resume?

[quote]How else would employers know I'm special?

This. I couldn't care less about with what gender someone identifies.

However, hiring is a risk management exercise. Of course, you want to find someone who is able to do the specific job. But, the bigger issue is that a troublesome employee can have huge, far reaching repercussions that can affect entire departments and the efficiency and effectiveness of smaller companies as managers and executives divert time, resources, and attention toward dealing with a single employee.

Alpha error (missing out on someone who should have been included) is always preferrable to beta error (hiring someone who shouldn't have been hired). When hiring, you have extremely limited information. You need to view that limited information as a leading indicator of what that person will be like in the future.

The special flower mindset is a risk not worth taking

At this rate in a decade we’ll all be expected to include photos of our genitals in our resumes and taped to our foreheads.

They/them is plural and doesn’t make any sense for an individual. A non-binary should refer to themself as “it”.

[quote] A non-binary should refer to themself as “it”. That's what everyone calls them behind their backs anyway.

r117, this was 20 years ago. But I still can't seem to get hired anywhere.

The resume screams psych case and lawsuits

They/them = HR nightmare

They/Them = guaranteed PITA

R125. What about the royal 'we'?

Seems like calling a sovereign 'it' would be rude.

R131 And how many Queens do you know? Oh wait…!

Absolutely r125, especially when it comes to pronouns in English grammar, where there are three genders, namely masculine, feminine and neuter, with the corresponding articles of he, she and it respectively.

R133. It is not a pronoun.

It is used for objects.

This is literal violence!

r134 of course "it" is a pronoun. It's just a pronoun used for objects.

Can you please explain what a pronoun is, r134?

And not just for objects, r136. In English, on certain, albeit rare occasions, humans can be neuter and hence an it, e.g. the word child is neuter, therefore the third-person pronoun for a child is it. Animals are living creatures not inanimate objects yet are most often neuter. In other languages, there are even more neuter nouns used for humans, thus making the pronoun in the singular it.

The pronouns he/she and they/them are in the third person. In other words, they are not used when addressing an individual but when talking about an individual to others. Forcing us to use incorrect third-person pronouns in private, when the said individual is not present, is an attempt at social control.

Unsurprising. Why would any serious job seeker do this? Get the job first, then tell HR, your boss, coworkers about your pronoun preference. Or make it even easier and use the pronouns everyone would expect.

[quote]It is used for objects.

Yes, because a person is referred to as he or she. All persons have a gender and are either he or she. “Non-binary” is made-up nonsense that should be ignored.

I also overlook Queens who use We/Our.

Abnormal pronouns are a huge red flag. Huge.

I wouldn’t hire anyone with any indication of mental abnormality.

I'd turn down even he/him pronoun. Anyone partaking in the cult should raise big ⛳️

As a gay man I would hire them first.

R145 Who?

Them.

OH Them! Of course!

Yes.

Lol “back in the 1970s, my friend Diane went by a they. She had multiplie personalities. We loved her dearly, we always took her under our wing at church!”

I'd hire them if they didn't lead with THEIR pronouns. As its work, it's about getting the best help possible, and educated, functional adults will not feel the need to lead on a personal note, in a professional setting.

The they/thems are trying to pass off as LGB when in reality they’re a religious cult. People are waking up to the fact that the TQ+ has nothing to do with gay rights, even if some of them happen to be homosexual or bisexual (because the T are attempting to indoctrinate gay youths and trans the gay away). It’s a narcissistic faith-based religious movement and pronouns signify that if you hire them you’re going to have evangelizing nutjobs on your hands who’ll try to claim religious exemption for all the changes they try to force on your company culture. They try to hide behind Gay Rights as a shield while telling gay people we’re genital fetishists for our same-SEX attraction.

See linked video that examines and cuts through the doublespeak to explain how everything under the Trans umbrella is homophobic religiosity.

HR doesn't want to deal with these nightmares.

It used to be the norm to use either “he” or “they” as the default singular pronoun to avoid using the clunky “he/she” phrase repeatedly, especially in instructional materials that frequently refer to a hypothetical person. At some point, writers started alternating between “he” and “she” to be less sexist, but that still was awkward. Personally, I have no problem referring to a hypothetical or unknown person as “they,” but it’s weird for me as an English speaker to use it for someone I already know!

Also, other languages, like Armenian, completely use gender neutral pronouns, if I’m not mistaken, so it’s possible that some day that will be the norm in English as well.

[quote]It's already all over people's LinkedIn and social media, be they transgender or not.

I was surprised to see quite a few former military men with pronouns in their Linkedin profiles.

You should add “Hell Na” to the possible responses.

I had a job interview with a gay man who had he/him in his email signature. It was a waste of time. The job wasn’t even for what I applied for. Unprepared. I knew immediately when I saw the he/him it was going to be a mistake, but I don’t like to decline interviews. And, sure enough, a waste of time.

Can we call the ones who are not just attention seekers & put their money where their junk is & get the snips Eunuch? Or if they like to dress up Eunice.

Personally, I think the outfits below are worthy of a revisit.

OP, how would you like it if someone discriminated against you for being gay?

R159 No-one has ever put “flaming homosexual” on their resumé.

r160 Even putting "flaming homosexual" there doesn't indicate that the person is anti-science, anti-biology, anti-reality unlike those who put "they/them". I also think the same for those righteous "cis" she/her and he/him because by doing so, they're very much shouting their belief that there are such legit things like "they/them" individuals.

Regardless what side of the issue you’re on, hiring someone using a “they” pronoun is risky because clients and other employees will no doubt misgender the new hire and set off a cascade of grievances that will cost the company time and money. It’s a huge red flag.

They are quickly bypassed

What if you legitimately have a name that is unisex?

I'm actively hiring for two positions at a Fortune 500. I see dozens of resumes a week. Not one of them has had pronouns specified anywhere.

When I see any pronouns listed on Linked In or Indeed I do wonder how much of a SJW they're going to be. At work we're encouraged to include our pronouns on our email signature but I don't feel the need to. If someone can't tell my pronouns I'm doing life wrong.

[quote]What if you legitimately have a name that is unisex?

A Mr. or Ms. will clear that up.

[quote]I'm actively hiring for two positions at a Fortune 500.

Heyyyy sexy. how YOU doin'?

I work with a non binary person. Goes by they/them or he/him. Doesn’t get upset about pronouns. It never came up until 4months after he started working with us and was then just brought up in passing. Nothing has changed.

Some of you are so controlled by imaginary scenarios it’s embarrassing.

No way would I hire this “he/him” person

My liability insurance would be through the w

Let's face it - it's telling you that you're going to have to monitor your language around them. Regardless of whether it's just a sign of support, it's not a good signal.

I honestly don't understand what benefit people get by being called 'they/them' besides extra attention.

I'm glad that employers see this as well. This shit has gotten out of hand.

[quote] Let's face it - it's telling you that you're going to have to monitor your language around them.

You have to monitor your language anyway at work 🙄

R155 The military to troon pipeline is very real! The pronouns on those guys will change soon.

Trans or not, this girl was definitely butch. It’s clear in her photos that at some point she was pressured to present herself as more feminine, but at best she looked MTF with ugly glasses and her hair awkwardly curled in a 40s style with those ridiculous bows. Maybe she thought passing herself off as a boy was the only alternative to being an ugly girl or butch lesbian? If conservative idiot parents and school officials accepted gender-nonconforming kids and allowed them to express themselves naturally, there would be far less of them identifying as “trans.”

^^ Sorry — wrong thread.

As with any job applicant, a major consideration is, "are we going to be able to live with this person?"

"They/them" pronouns are a big red flag, like it or not.

[quoe]Also, other languages, like Armenian, completely use gender neutral pronouns, if I’m not mistaken, so it’s possible that some day that will be the norm in English as well.

We have a gender neutral pronoun. It. Short and singular. Much easier transition than trying to make everyone call a single person of an obvious sex a "they".

Would interview, won't hire.

Boxes to tick, etc.

[quote]Also, other languages, like Armenian, completely use gender neutral pronouns, if I’m not mistaken, so it’s possible that some day that will be the norm in English as well.

How will those poor transwomen who become enraged whenever they're not referred to as she/her be able to survive?

Besides, r154, as r176 points out, there already is a "gender neutral", i.e. neuter pronoun, in English: it. Why don't non-binaries ask to be called it instead of claiming to be plural?

[quote]I work with a non binary person.

[quote]Some of you are so controlled by imaginary scenarios it’s embarrassing.

This is the world we live in where people can’t even see their own reflection. The irony is not lost here.

This woman agrees with op.

She also sounds like a MAGAT, and makes a LOT of assumptions.

R171 - it's one thing to monitor your speech at work to keep professional, it's quite another to remember to change pronoun usage to a plural form specifically for one person.

It's having to change the rules of grammar to support one person's supposed 'identity' which is meaningless.

They/them is not an identity. Being not something (non-binary) is not an identity.

It's supposed to be this undefinable, mysterious identity - but words MATTER. They are used to describe things and to communicate clearly and to be understood.

Adopting the use of a plural pronoun doesn't do a fucking thing to define you or to clarify anything.

I don't think everyone putting their pronouns in their Linkedin profile are necessarily into that stuff. That feature was introduced a few years ago and I remember updating my profile at the time and encountering the new field. II was like "nah" and skipped it, but it's included with a number of other fields that have relevant information you would definitely want to include in a profile. I think it's just fooling people to add them to make it seem like it's required.

I know someone who is definitely not into that stuff and she had it on her profile, which really surprised me.

“Overlooked.”

Come down south, if you get uppity about your pronouns, you will get the shit knocked out of you, likewise hairy men in dresses might get slapped down. We have a few tranny hookers that service those so inclined, they need drug money.