Raquel Welch is DEAD to me!

Wow, didn't expect this

[quote]Wow, didn't expect this

What on earth do you mean?

Raquel just might beat Angela Lansbury for the honored final slot in the Oscars In Memoriam segment.

TMZ

Can she be cremated with all that silicone in her?

It just requires a larger urn, r5.

I’M 39!!!! I’LL SUE!!!!!

Wasn't she just the subject of a thread here? She didn't look unhealthy

Legendary Hollywood stylist George Masters once remarked that Raquel Welch was silicone from the knees up.

A legend in her own time...

She had big breasts, but couldn’t live forever.

Predictions for the next two celeb deaths-Robert Wagner and Linda Ronstadt

I never found her the least bit pretty sexy or appealing. I can understand why many did though.

I once saw on a newsstand in Rome a photo of that same newsstand back in 1968 and it looked like every magazine had her on the cover.

So she was addicted to her beauty - she couldn't let it go, I find that very sad - hadn't really looked at recent photos of her so I'm taken aback by the recent photos.

She was legendary for never exposing her breasts in a film.

Well, we know she didn't drown.

Who will get custody of the wigs?

Another death by brief illness. COVID?

Again with the "brief illness" shit. Every celeb dies after a "brief illness" these days. Tell us what really happened, dammit!

She's famous, but I don't remember what she was in.

She could achieve glamour.

This Girl’s Back In Town (1987)

This is what happens when you don't move your arms when you walk.

Oh no......now I'm worried about Carroll Baker......

TMZ obit

futuristic and terpsichorean

Truly bizarre tweet. Well, no - she didn't have breast implants (as far as we know) because she was naturally busty. And she hadn't had Botox when this photo was taken, because she was still young. WTF is his point?

Yeah, I don’t think she had breast implants either. Don’t know what people are going on about her tits being silicone. Jealousy?

Either way, 82 is not young. You can catch a wrong gust of wind at that age and then pass away. I don’t understand why we expect people to live to be 100 when living past your seventies means an increasingly pointless and difficult life where you slowly lose your functions.

Remember when she wore this to her son’s wedding?

I recently saw Bedazzled (1967) which is great fun. She was so gorgeous in that I couldn't take my eyes off her. And I think she had on crocheted pants or something equally as unflattering to 99% of all humans.

If she didn't have breast implants she most definitely had a breast lift. To keep them upright. Probably got some reshaping done then as well if not a full reduction.

On What's My Line (4/30/67).

R28 - when Barbara Windsor died, I remember reading a (sincere, as far as I can tell) comment along the lines of "gone far too soon". She was 83!

Fuck off r28

R31 Most women who have large breasts do for convenience reasons, gravity and weight gain is a real bitch. People on this site often mistake breast lifts for implants. Granted it’s all gay men here, but I’m gay as well, just from a family of busty women. My mother and older sister have gotten lifts as they’ve aged.

I’m pretty devastated

She had a pretty vile personality. She talked about Mae West in a mean girl type way. A big Republican asshole too.

Princess Di level devastated, r36?

Will her “Myra Breckinridge” co-star, Rex Reed, issue a statement?

Poor Raquel.

[quote] Truly bizarre tweet. Well, no - she didn't have breast implants (as far as we know) because she was naturally busty. And she hadn't had Botox when this photo was taken, because she was still young. WTF is his point?

Most people at her age in that photo today are completely made of plastic. That’s their point.

Most should be Many. The people that are considered attractive today look like blowup dolls. Fake from head to toe.

Yawn.

I remember there was controversy over this poster for “100 Rifles” in 1968.

Quite big tits.

Moo.

I hear she was a bitch but I liked her in her "appearances". She was indeed very pretty and sexy once. Now she can Space Dance in heaven!

What was with the wigs? Was she bald?

Raquel and Cher performing “I Am Woman” on the Cher show in 1975

I texted my mom a few min ago. Then I called her to tell her Raquel Welch died. Her response was “No shit”!?

She was genuinely talented, even beyond the face and the big boobs. (She had a nice singing voice, and had decent comic timing.) But it was pretty universally agreed she was a horrible person to work with, and her daughter said she was a terrible mother.

[quote] Raquel just might beat Angela Lansbury for the honored final slot in the Oscars In Memoriam segment.

The Oscars went out of their way to present Angela an honorary Oscar. Raquel is long forgotten and a joke. Raquel never won or was nominated for shit. She received one Golden Globe. She’ll may get a mention but she’s no Lansbury. Angela had multiple Oscar noms and a respected career that spanned decades. She was beloved. Raquel will get something from Jugs magazine.

"I'm a Woman," R49, a different song than "I Am Woman."

[quote] Again with the "brief illness" shit. Every celeb dies after a "brief illness" these days. Tell us what really happened, dammit!

Why should they?

She didn’t drown.

r55, meet r15.

This didn’t help.

She was pretty damned good in this 1987 made for tv movie for NBC - Right to Die.

Full movie link

She's a lot of fun in "The Last of Sheila." one of my favorite movies.

She was in the “House of Versace” Lifetime movie.

About her slutty black dress she wore to her son’s wedding with her tits hanging out - she was trying to be English.

And now over to Raquel Welsh.

She was the best thing in Myra Breckenridge, which isn't saying much. I liked her in Three Musketeers and The Last of Sheila.

Her death makes me feel all the older as I wait on the big Fadeout.

Awwww, that’s a shame. And so shortly after being elected to the Senate, too. The state of Georgia is really going to miss him.

I have to admit, though, I had no idea he was that old. He looked fantastic for 82. I guess it’s true what they say that black doesn’t wrinkle.

Republican Jewish Coalition. I guess some of the shaved head Orthodox gals bought her wigs.

Will it be a traditional Bolivian ceremony?

lol.

The woman is a menace

-Cosmo Kramer

Yeah

-Elaine Benes

She dated Joe Nameth, Alice Cooper, Warren Beatty, Richard Burton, Freddie Prinze and Sean Connery.

Music video for her dance cover of Donna Summer’s This Girl’s Back In Town (1987)

I wasn’t even in town, gurlfren, don’t come for me.

I’m nervous.

I loved her tv commercials for Foster Grant sunglasses. She oozes glamour.

This can’t be true. I saw her die back in the 90s. ON STAGE at the Marquis Theater.

Foster Grant commercial blooper reel.

She also starred in two Broadway musicals - replacing Lauren Bacall in "Woman of the Year" (1981-82) and then replacing Julie Andrews in 'Victor / Victoria' for five weeks, before the show closed due to no one buying tickets to see her in the show (June -July 1997).

She was one of the first celebrities with zero talent or charm that was shoved down our throats in America. She’s no more than a lingerie model who sucked the Right cocks.

Raquel Welch wigs 2022 collection

It's JuGGs, r52...

she looks gorgeous in this interview with Dick Cavett

She had an amazing body and a sexy face.

However, I saw her on Johnny Carson and she had no personality and no sense of humor about herself.

she appeared on the Dick Cavett with Janis Joplin

After Sophia Loren and Liz Taylor turned it down, it was said Aaron Spelling offered the role of 'Alexis Carrington' to Welch (who would've been 41 at the time) in 'Dynasty'. But Welch turned down the role, as well, since she was starting rehearsals to replace Lauren Bacall in 'Woman of the Year' in late 1981. I'm betting Joan Collins was happy for that.

Let's not forget her delicate work in Kansas City Bombers.

I saw that at Buckingham Square Four, r84...

She and Gene Hackman presented Liza with her Oscar. Welch's comment is a reference to the appearance of Sasheen Little Credibility who refused the Oscar on Brando's behalf

I'm pretty sure when Republicans die after a brief illness these days, it's the 'Rona and their families are too embarrassed to admit it.

Raquel Welch discusses Myra Breckinridge. Fascinating interview from 10 yrs ago. She was so gorgeous.

One thing we know with certainty: She didn't drown! Skip to the 2:00 mark

It wasn’t drowning.

Raquel Welch had one hell of a feud with Mae West working on Myra Breckinridge.

[quote] Again with the "brief illness" shit. Every celeb dies after a "brief illness" these days. Tell us what really happened, dammit!

I wonder if it's a possible covid death.

Very original, r90.

You’re the very pinnacle of hee-larity, ya are.

It was even funnier than r15 saying it, and r55 saying it and r89 saying it….

Raquel could go-go dance her ass off!

Performing The Grass is Always Green from Woman of the Year.

[quote] What was with the wigs? Was she bald?

She probably had her own, natural hair. But her hair wasn't as thick and long as the wigs.

I always thought that Ann Margaret was the more appealing version of her.

RIP and all of that, but what was her appeal? She always struck me as a super-generic '60s pageant-contestant type; her resemblance to Anita Bryant didn't help.

OMG! This changed my life! A Week With Raquel (1986)

This should be required viewing by all gays.

Raquel looked damn good. But sadly at home, away from the cameras and the prying eyes of the public it was a different story. Here is the death photo, as she was found at home. She had removed 6 industrial strength Spanx, approximately 3 quarts of stage makeup and 2 wigs.

The Wild Party

[quote] she appeared on the Dick Cavett with Janis Joplin

And after that taping Joplin and Cavett went off and fucked. Raquel probably turned them both down.

A friend of mine was on the creative team of her wig company - working on graphics, web design, etc. He only had lovely things to say about her.

Raquel Welch for Crystal Light (1987)

This commercial is so Rockie, 80s, ME!

She hit me in the head with a fondue pot.

Raquel Welch is dead.

I can remember the sensation she caused in “One Million, B.C.” Even as a gay boy, I was impressed by her beauty, great face and body, she was really gorgeous. Needless to say, the straight boys in my junior high school class were agog and abuzz.

I saw her on stage when she replaced Lauran Bacall in “Woman of the Year.” She was surprisingly good, and when she made her entrance in a skin tight Norma Kamali sweatshirt dress, the entire audience gasped as one — her body was spectacular and she had real glamor and magnetism.

The abbreviated Times obit mentions that she was the first ‘60s sex symbol after the death of Marilyn Monroe, completely forgetting Ann-Margret’s spectacular debut in “Bye Bye Birdie” in ‘63 (cover of Life, 11-page spread). But I guess A-M had successfully reinvented herself as a good actress by the 1970s (after “Carnal Knowledge”). Welch never quite managed that, perhaps because of her diva rep.

R83, She may have turned down “Dynasty”, but she later signed on for the prime time series “Central Park West”, co-starring DL fave John Barrowman and his big dick.

I will always remember her in Legally Blond and the caricature the artist drew of her testimony on the stand. Wish I could find a picture.

Raquel Welch and Miss Piggy “I’m a Woman” (1980)

Mamie Van Doren should be worried.

Raquel said Mae West was very afraid to work with her. They did not get on.

[quote]She dated Joe Nameth, Alice Cooper, Warren Beatty, Richard Burton, Freddie Prinze and Sean Connery.

... and ME!

[quote] always thought that Ann Margaret was the more appealing version of her.

Oh, dear.

Have we heard from Larry King yet?

As I wrote in the other thread, r107, gorgeous woman but zero depth as an actress. A-M's lane was *much* wider.

"You're a fraud, Dr. Tarnower! You've never even BEEN to Scarsdale!"

She still was given my single favorite line in the entire run of "Seinfeld."

R117

She looked Hispanic, IMO. Cindy Crawford, in the '90s, was a modern-day equivalent.

One of my favorite things ever was a profile of her in the early 80s. the interviewer was poking gentle fun at her for being so self-consciously fabulous, and at the very end of the interview he asked her what color she would say her beautiful eyes are. "...Brown?" he asked:

" 'Actually,' she replies, 'most people say they're sable.'

And they are."

I am just in utter shock! Heavens to Betsy!

[quote] Either way, 82 is not young. You can catch a wrong gust of wind at that age and then pass away.

That's overstating it, R28.

Myra Breckinridge was way ahead of its time on transitioning to another sex. The theatrical trailer at the link

Myra Breckinridge starring Raquel Welch, Mae West, John Huston, Rex Reed, Farrah Fawcett (in a lesbian scene with Raquel)

Who would remember that, R29?

[Quote] She had a nice singing voice

The Three Musketeers official trailer

Starring Raquel Welch, Oliver Reed, Michael York, Faye Dunaway, Christopher Lee

[quote] A big Republican asshole too.

Who told you that?

The Four Musketeers trailer

That "Losing My Mind" is bizarre--she's singing different notes than in the song.

Here she is doing better.

Raquel Welch was any director’s nightmare. She was just outrageous.

I’ll give you the opening story. We sat in the meeting, and there were two women who were playing her lieutenants. One of them was Vicki Fredericks, who was a Broadway dancer who had the lead in a Broadway show called, Dancin’, and she was quite lovely and a great dancer. And the other woman, was from Texas, she was the Playboy Bunny of the Year. They were both quite beautiful.

So we sat and read for at least an hour. And our usual routine was, we dismissed everybody but the star and the execs. Pam stayed, Robin stayed, and I stayed. And we would say to the guest star, “Do you have any questions or is there anything we can help you with?” And Raquel said, “Ah yes, who are the two girls that are going to play my lieutenants?” And I said, “The two women that were sitting on your right.” And she said, “Oh, I didn’t notice them.”

Then she said she had a problem with her entrance. Robin comes running into the apartment, says to Pam [that] the Nekrons, or whoever they were, are coming to kidnap him. And she says, “When are they coming?” He says, “They could be here any second!” And there’s an explosion. The doors to the apartment fly off, onto the couch. And in walks the first girl. Vicki Fredericks walks down stage left. The other girl comes down, walks down stage right, and they both pose with their hands on their hips. And then Raquel enters.

Raquel said, “You can’t have them come in before me.”

And we said to Raquel, “If they come in after you, they’re gonna distract. They’re going to pull the eye. What we’re doing here is, we’re setting it up. The audience sees this woman come down, ‘No, that’s not her.’ Then the next one, ‘No, that’s not her’—and then you enter! You know? And they frame you! It’s the perfect entrance.” But if someone comes in after her, the audience looks at the person coming in that’s moving.

Her autobiography was titled: ‘Raquel: Beyond the Cleavage’

Seriously

She said, “I have an idea. Supposing they wear dog masks, and I lead them in on leashes.” So I knew immediately that she did not want to compete with these two very lovely women. And that never happened—we would not allow that, the dog masks.

What I said to her was, “Raquel, your character is too strong. You don’t need to have them in dog masks or leashes. All you need to do is snap your fingers. Those girls will drop to their knees.” And she said, “Oh, I like that.”

At one point, Robin was trying to talk around her idea about it not being good for them to come in first. And Robin was trying to explain it to her. Pam was standing there, and Pam said, “You know, Raquel, he’s right.” And Raquel said, “Honey, please.” And she stepped in front of Pam, blocking her, then went on to talk to Robin. Pam made a fist and made believe she was hitting [Raquel] in the back of the head, and walked away.

[After that], Pam would do that every time she came on stage. She’d sneak up behind Raquel, and make believe she was punching her in the head.

Also, she had her future husband there: Andre, a French director. He would stand behind me while I would talk to her, and I would see her look over my shoulder [to see him say] yes or no. She got me so angry. [At one point], I gave her a note: “Raquel, I need you stand a little closer to Robin for the two-shot.” She said, “OK.” And then I said, “That note I gave you is probably the most brilliant note a director has ever given an actress.” And she said, “What are you talking about?” And I said, “I know it’s brilliant, because Andre agreed with me.”

David Misch:

There was a scene which was incorporated into the original script, where Raquel Welch was to torture Mr. Williams. But the “joke” was that all her tortures were sexy. So the idea was that there was going to be a hot tub, and she was going to torture him by rubbing him. And you know, most of the show was set [based on the freelancer’s original script]. The hot tub was there. We [already] had it, it had to be used. We had no way to not do that scene. So we tried to write it funny, and I think we did.

But my main memory of that scene was not our hilarious lines, but that after the scene was over, everyone was [supposed] to get out of the hot tub and to move on to the next scene. And Robin said, “I’m afraid I’m not going to be getting out of the hot tub.” Because he had, uh, a piece of physical anatomy that had gotten not appropriate for the audience to see at that point. Raquel Welch had been rubbing him all over.

She was an unusual case in that she checked off every box for sexy without being very sexually appealing.

One can see why men fantasized over Marilyn or Miss Angie Dickinson. They could be warm and funny. Even gay men thought they would be fun to hang out with.

Raquel not so much. She was sexy like a Corvette Stingray was sexy. But not warm or appealing.

They were a true Latinx icon.

R133 she was Trojan Horse gorgeous, great packaging but a viper inside waiting to empty your accounts.

R52, You’re either extremely naive or incredibly stupid in your analysis.

Her voice was always a problem. She forever sounded like a beauty pageant contestant who'd worked hard on her elocution.

This clip depicts a cat fight among cavewomen from the movie One Million Years BC

C-c-c-c-cat fight!

Straight men don't usually have "warm" or "appealing" as traits they look for in a sex symbol. They're looking for "slim waisted" and "big titted."

R140 most young straight men don’t see red flags, that’s why seductive Jezebels don’t like gay men who will call them out

FV

Raquel Welch and daughter, Tahnee Welch, magazine pictorial circa 1993. Her daughter was GORGEOUS too.

OP is flicking her bean furiously in remorse

Early interview with Dick Clark

Oh wow. RIP. I don't think I've seen a full-length film with her in it. I know her from guest appearances on TV shows (e.g., Seinfeld), talks shows, awards shows, and her general status as an icon of sorts.

R143 link

All gays should enjoy Myra Beckenridge for multiple reasons. It’s camp at its highest. It’s fun as fuck!

Bitchy but very beautiful. In her memoir she was gay friendly and said that the Gay Community should be given all their rights. She also stated that when she went out for a night on the town to an opera or a sensitive play she always invited a gay man to go with her because straight men simply wouldn't understand them.

R77, was that sand out of your copious vadge, why don't you?

Raquel walked so Kim K. could run

[quote] She was one of the first celebrities with zero talent or charm that was shoved down our throats in America.

How dare you!

My mom is on her way over to my house. We’re gonna shed some tears over Raquel (Rocky) tonight then watch a couple of her movies.

R149 vain Repug cunt liked fags who fawned over her.

A more recent photo of her. Speechless..........

She was so beautiful. I wanted to look like her.

So the Pope and Raquel Welch are in a lifeboat....

It's hardly a shock that she put on weight over the pandemic.

Which Raquel movie are you guys watching tonight in her honor? I'm considering Last of Sheila (never seen it)

R104 that commercial of her pushing Crystal Light is priceless. She loved loved loved Nutrasweet.

A priest, a rabbi and a monk walk into a bar

Raquel Welch is behind the bar. She almost flashes her tits, no nipple shown, and says “give me all your money, motherfuckers!”

She also dated Bob Dylan.

Raschell Welsch is dead, honey!

[quote] She was so beautiful. I wanted to look like her.

So did I.

She will now be cunting with Mae West in heaven

Fuck! They have already released her cause of her death by way of quickie autopsy!

FATHOM is an agreeable enough spy spoof.

Then and in later years.

R166 are you a troll or dumb?

R168 simian

Bo Derek, you in danger gurl!

In her honor I will masturbate to her tonight

[quote]She was an unusual case in that she checked off every box for sexy without being very sexually appealing.

Tell us you're gay without telling us.

Was she at least wearing her favorite wig when she died?

I had such a crush on her as a teenage boy!

It’s funny that late in life (a very long one) she got fat and suddenly draped herself in tents, but let’s admit she stayed hot for a LONG LONG time.

A great beauty and sex symbol who will be missed.

Is the punk band name "Raquel Welch's Wigs" taken?

wash

Fantastic Voyage, actually a very good movie. Off set she tried to seduce Stephen Boyd but he was having none of it.

Singing with Tom Jones

When they made SHALAKO, Honor Blackman said that Stephen Boyd had undergone a spiritual rebirth and he would greet everybody with "Peace."

[quote]—Straightus Mannus

There’s no such thing. You just need a few drinks.

Was it from not swinging her arms while walking?

[quote]r52 Raquel never won or was nominated for shit.

Damn straight. You little homosexual boys know it and so do I.

Spooning with Farrah

Were Faye and Raq enemies on set?

Something about her just didn’t say superstar. She seemed like the town whore who was pretty but not memorable but you’re finally introduced to her like 10 times so you remember her name. Just something off with her.

She revealed that Mae West was born a man.

[Quote] Richard Lester has said in interviews the producers cast Simon Ward and Raquel Welch. "Raquel is very big in all the small countries," said Ilya Salkind.

Really Raquel

I've heard of her, but I know nothing about her.

I don’t know, r184. Why don’t you go WAY back and ask R22.

At her best, a hard looking humper.

[quote]She revealed that Mae West was born a man.

Confirmed.

R27 Yeah ... Raquel Tajada was already pretty busty when she was a senior in high school winning beauty contests.

[quote]R187 Were Faye and Raq enemies on set?

Faye insists in her memoir there was no feud, but that the press made it seem so when she took a misstep and bumped Raquel over during there fight scene. Raquel sprained her wrist. Hmmmm.

I read in another book that both actresses were participating in a fashion show and wanted to wear the same dress in it. Faye insisted she should get it, as she “knew how to [italic]sell[/italic] it.” Raquel countered by asking with what body Dunaway intended to show the dress.

The only other time I’ve seen their names linked was when Jon Peters was considering projects to put together for Babs . He wanted to redo THE WOMEN with Streisand as Sylvia, Dunaway as Mary, and Welch as Crystal.

Hollywood pays tribute . . .

She sounds petty and insecure.

Our figures were very similar.

Will Broadway dim for Raquel?

This was my favorite look of hers. 1979 Oscars.

Petty bikini drama on "A Swingin' Summer":

Cast member Lori Williams remarked, “Raquel Welch was a problem on this movie and she was a major, major bitch. She wanted to have her signature bikini in the film. I had bought my bikinis before we got to Lake Arrowhead and she wouldn’t let me wear any of them. I had to go out and buy new swimsuits. Working with her was not a lot of fun.” She added, “She kept trying to get people fired. We lost two cameramen who quit because she was just wretched. For me, she was just the worst person I ever met during the time I worked.”

And from Marie Osmond:

“I have to say, I never trash people. I’ve worked with lots and lots of people. But, I remember vividly… I worked with Raquel Welch and I was very excited to meet her. She just wasn’t nice. She was mean, not just to me, but to everybody.” Osmond recalled one particular incident, after the crew had made a white set with a full orchestra for Raquel’s performance, she took one look at it and said, “I want it black.”

r35, what exactly do they do for a breast lift? Sounds like what a bra is supposed to do.

Her obituaries mention she was in an episode of "Bewitched". Does anyone remember that one? What did she play? I don't recall it.

Bacall discusses Raquel @ 9:30.

R205 SAD!

I sort of forgot about her.

R208 it’s another sad one though, because she was just there in the background. A thread in the fabric.

JLo, take note.

Witch or Wife - first season episode......we didn't see her full face....she played a stewardess.

Brief illness probably is cancer- gastric, pancreatic or an acute leukemia or lymphoma. All are and can be fast. She was the biggest star of her era with the smallest portfolio of movies that mattered. She was as much the personality as the actress. She was supposed to be quite smart but also very difficult.

She was sure purty and could wear huge wigs like few others but she was also a dreadful actress. The only watchable movies she made were the ones where she was part of a larger ensemble cast. She passed her lack of talent on to her daughter.

Speaking of her kids, does anyone have any recent pics of her son Damon? He was quite a hunk back in the day.

Her son Damon was hot .. He'd be in his 60s now, so is he datalounge hot?

From 1996.

R15 From the episode of the Mary Tyler Moore Show where Mary and Rhoda were up late at night writing celebrity obituaries and getting punchy.

She pretty much looked great up until a few years ago when she put on a lot of weight. But whatever cosmetic procedures she had were well done because she looked like herself as she aged and as I said, she looked pretty great.

Agreed, R216.

Reese speaks.

[quote] Were Faye and Raq enemies on set?

R187 They sounded amicable in one of Raquel's interviews above.

R169 suck my asshole!

[quote]R107 The abbreviated Times obit mentions that she was the first ‘60s sex symbol after the death of Marilyn Monroe, completely forgetting Ann-Margret

That also passes over Carroll Baker’s relaunch by Paramount. She churned out a few big films in sexpot mode before getting into a contract dispute and scuttling off to Europe.

Raquel told the press, “Carroll Baker wouldn’t be sexy if she were spread eagled on the hood of a car,” which rather raised the other actress’ eyebrows.

[quote] Carroll Baker wouldn’t be sexy if she were spread eagled on the hood of a car,” which rather raised the other actress’ eyebrows

Neither of these women were actresses.

They played hootchie-kootchie and flashed their boobies in front of a camera.

[quote]R119 She looked Hispanic, IMO.

Her dad was Bolivian.

[quote]R22 Neither of these women were actresses. They played hootchie-kootchie and flashed their boobies in front of a camera.

Carroll Baker was a sometimes superb actress who trained at the Actors Studio. She was nominated for an Oscar playing a Tennessee Williams heroine.

R203 lied about that Marie Osmond shit. That’s what fucking Mae West did to Requel when they first met. Dumb bitch.

R199 she was the antithesis of insecure.

R192 can you use wiki?

R224 Only got that role because Monroe didn't want it. She padded her boobies when she was in her Imitation-Harlow years.

[quote] bumped Raquel over during there fight scene.

Oh, DEAR!

[quote] Carroll Baker was a sometimes superb actress

Oh, definitely. I loved him as Archie Bunker.

[quote] Carroll Baker … sometimes superb

Sometimes superb and sometimes hopeless. At least Welch was consistent in her hopelessness.

[quote]R143 Raquel Welch and daughter, Tahnee Welch, magazine pictorial circa 1993. Her daughter was GORGEOUS too.

Her daughter WAS very beautiful, but with even less talent than her mom. Curiously, she was rather flat chested.

[quote]I remember there was controversy over this poster for “100 Rifles” in 1968.

She didn't want her bare breasts rubbing against Jim Brown's back, so she put a towel between them. Brown was offended and thought it was racist but she explained she was married and thought it was inappropriate.

Another nail in the Glamorous Hollywood coffin.

R233 Did Raquel Welch and Jim Brown fornicate in that movie?

[quote]she took one look at it and said, “I want it black.”

Something we had in common.

She had a voice that said ‘your call will be answered by the next available operator.’ Humorless, soulless and vapid. But as a 60s bedroom wall poster she was unrivaled.

She must have had offers to do decent films over the decades. It’s rather amazing that the vast majority of her movies are trash. Maybe she just wasn’t that smart.

The prestige project she did (THE WILD PARTY for Merchant-Ivory) bombed, so maybe that turned her off anything arty.

A friend of mine was in CANNERY ROW and thought Welch was utterly perfect as Suzy. Had she not been fired that might have led to better things.

Was it just a legend that she had some ribs removed to have a slimmer waist? I could never believe any reputable surgeon would do that procedure, even back then.

I think I’ve read those lower ribs aren’t really necessary. Some fetishists (who are into corsetry etc.) have them removed… so it can be done.

Whatever happened to her nepo baby Tahnee?

The daughter posed nude for Playboy. I forget what she was promoting.

Trigger Warning: Beaver Alert

I loved Raquel's grape jelly products. They are delicious - better than Smuckers.

Terry O'Neill funny portrait of Raquel. He later married Miss Dunaway....

Raquel meets the Queen

Gossip re: Raquel and 108 year-old Mae West having catfights on the set of 'Myra B' is legendary. Surely Rex Reed will post or write something about it, since he was there. You know it had to be bad when it even made drunk, old coot John Huston uncomfortable. Did Farrah ever talk about that set?

Well, it's a relief she didn't drive into a house.

What did Farrah say about Raquel?

....

I am shocked. She looked like she gained a lot of weight, but looked mobile. I am shocked, seriously.

.... is a message, Susan @ r249. Use the space bar.

Absolutely awful actress, but probably THE great beauty of her time.

Somehow, though, her awfulness struck just the right tone in "Myra Breckenridge", considered one of the worst movies ever made, but I enjoy it, and her performance in it.

It's a shitty, blurry photo because I was trying to be quick/discreet....but I swear, this is Raquel Welch lunching at Bistro Garden in Sherman Oaks, early 2016. She looked fantastic!

She was only the second-most-famous person there that afternoon. I was FAR more interested in (and distracted by) Dolly FREAKIN' Parton who was also having lunch in a secluded, closed section of the restaurant.

I’ve always thought she was stunning. She had a waist which very few woman have these days even if they’re thin. With her legs and feet, she could’ve been a dancer had she not turned to acting. She may have been vile, but she was no bimbo.

RIP.

[quote]I read in another book that both actresses were participating in a fashion show and wanted to wear the same dress in it. Faye insisted she should get it, as she “knew how to sell it.”

Faye, you crazy bitch. We will always love you.

[quote]r244 Terry O'Neill funny portrait of Raquel. He later married Miss Dunaway....

Damn straight. You little homosexual boys know it and so do I.

She was the last old-school Sex Symbol. When they picked her for the Blackglama ad they were a bit conflicted. They didn't really consider her a "legend", but she was *the* sex symbol movie star at that time so they went ahead with her.

What about me?!

Farewell, Fuzzy Britches

Old shit gays with shit attitudes try to belittle Raquel Welch with put downs and minimizing her career. Fuck you losers!

"Treat her like a spoiled child"

The brilliant (straight) cinematographer Walter Lassally's memories of shooting "The Wild Party."

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And here's Dolly at Bistro Garden a few minutes later (just to prove that I wasn't making that up):

How many big screen movies where you were the sex bomb were you in, Loni @ r258?

[quote]r257 When they picked her for the Blackglama ad they were a bit conflicted. They didn't really consider her a "legend", but she was *the* sex symbol movie star at that time

There’s a book by the publicist who arranged that campaign, and in it he recalls each of the photo shoots.

With Raquel he says they explained they wanted a very sexy shot with lots of skin. She raised her hands to her cheeks and said haughtily, “It’s this FACE that made Raquel Welch a legend!”

R254 She did train as a ballerina for years, so that explains her figure.

R266 you can’t fix stupid people because they are incapable of learning.

Check out the pics at R262. She was OBESE. Probably died of a stroke, heart attack...or maybe choked on a cheeseburger.

Believe it or not, Raquel Welch auditioned for the part of Mary Ann in Gilligan's Island. But the producers felt that she was too sexy and curvy to played the nice, pretty girl next door Mary Ann.

Large, flaring nostrils but still beautiful

That's where I got my info, r265. A friend gave me the book many years ago.

There’s an old interview (from the early 80s?) she did - or STARTED - with Cindy Adams that I wish was on the Internet.

Cindy asks her some dicey question and Raquel takes off her mic saying, “Everyone warned me not to do this with you. They said, ‘She’s a [italic]barracuda!’”

As a kid I remember she was *the* sex symbol of that era.

R269 auditioned for the role of Sophia in Golden Girls but was passed on because he has a dick and was not attractive to play an 80+ Sicilian bitch.

R48 I ought to slap the shit outta you.

How much work did she have done? Or was she just naturally gorgeous?

R239, I was advised on a movie set to have one of my ribs removed as I have a very short trunk so my ribs stick out. Was told that's how Cher achieved her very slim waist.

Didn't know that Raquel had the same procedure but apparently it isn't a rarity.

^ I’ve heard that about Cher, but never about Raquel.

I mostly remember her from Mother, Jugs, & Speed! My parents took me along to see it at ten years old. I thought it was hilarious because Bill Cosby, the Fat Albert/Jello-pudding guy, was in it. And I remember being very embarrassed & uncomfortable during the "love scenes" with Harvey Keitel in the back of the ambulance.

Raquel accepting Goldie Hawn's Oscar 1970

R277 I find that kind of obsession to be repulsive.

That Cannery Row story is terrible though - and I do believe her side (especially if she and Debs had the same management) and I’m glad she got all that money and showed them. Of course the irony is they hired the one actress who was probably more difficult than she.

Had no idea she was a Trumper though puke. She was picd wearing a mask though, so probably not anti vax.

R281 Fascinating - thanks for sharing

Her line of wigs really sell well.

R272

“The real problem was when I asked her if she was ‘difficult’. She said, ‘Why don’t you ask somebody I’ve worked with?’ The thing is, the night before, I’d had dinner with Robert Wagner, who never knocks anybody. Nobody! If Hitler came back, he’d say, ‘He’s the best in his line’. And he said, ‘Raquel is a bitch’. Just the night before. So when she said, ‘Why don’t you ask somebody who’s worked with me?’ I said, ‘Robert Wagner said you’re a monster’. She got up, unclipped her microphone, and stalked off.”

[quote]r257 When they picked her for the Blackglama ad…

My ad was better.

When did the practice of people accepting awards for the winners come to an end?

Wouldn’t there be no Kim K., Paris Hilton, Denise Richard’s types if not for this woman? Or am I confusing her for someone else.

Yes, r288.

I just got done watching Myra Breckinridge in her honor

Did not see this one coming. Over a year ago people on DL questioned why she was not seen in public. Maybe it was a brief illness after all.

Maybe with the Marlon Brando award, R287.

*was not

In his memoir, Nolte said he told Welch (whom he called "Rocket") that she was miscast in "Cannery Row," and she agreed with him. He found her replacement, Debra Winger, to be a good actress, but a huge pain in the ass off screen. (Still, he agreed to work with her again in "Everybody Wins.")

My favorite Raquel moment, starts at 2:08.

As a native Angelino, I've developed a kind of 6th sense when a celebrity is nearby. It was the early 90s, and I was in a big box store in West Los Angeles, looking for a cordless landline phone. While browsing the aisles, I spot a woman in a trench coat, a silk scarf around her neck, a hat pulled low, and large sunglasses, all in an attempt to not be recognized. But it is August in LA (about 100 degrees outside), and that getup only drew attention to her, at least it did to this gayling. I move closer to get a better look, and it's Raquel Welch!

She notices that I've turned to look at her, and she stares at me as if daring me to say something. But terrified, I pretend I didn't recognize her and continue my search for a phone and moved on. She then to my surprise moved closer to me, glaring at me, as if demanding that I recognize her. But I'm scared, so I continue to look for a phone while ignoring her.

After a bit of standing around, loosening her scarf, taking off the sunglasses and adjusting her hat, I still don't take the bait and don't say anything to her. After a bit, she sighs disappointedly, turns, and walks away. As soon as she's gone, I go up to a salesperson and tell him that Raquel Welch had just been in his department. He simply gave me a blank stare and asked, "Who's that?" It is still one of my favorite LA celebrity stories ever.

[quote]R282 That Cannery Row story is terrible though - and I do believe her side (especially if she and Debs had the same management) and I’m glad she got all that money and showed them.

I wish the trial transcripts were online. I don’t understand how the producers stood to save money by firing Welch and hiring Winger. Wouldn’t Welch have been paid upfront already? Or did she stand to reap profit percentage points once the film was released, those would be voided, and they didn’t have to offer that to her replacement?

I know she was a Republican, but was she a MAGAT?

The woman was a menace!

[quote]R294 In his memoir, Nolte said he told Welch (whom he called "Rocket") that she was miscast in "Cannery Row”

Welch miscast as a WHORE??

I'm sorry if I insulted you, R283.

And I'm sorry if you also felt the need to go under the knife for Body-Reconstruction-Surgery.

The pace of celebrity deaths is getting insane!

She looked amazing just 11 years ago. I don't know how she deteriorated so quickly.

"Can she be cremated with all that silicone in her"

Ask a mortician..

Long story short some funeral directors (ok, undertakers/morticians) will remove silicone breast implants before a body is cremated, others don't bother.

As for other bits such metal joint replacements, dental fillings, etc.. they are left in body and recovered from the ashes after cremation. We know from the ghoulish practices of Nazi Germany there is money in metal after bodies are cremated. This is still true today, though local laws may dictate who benefits from sale of such recovered metals.

[Quote] I don't know how she deteriorated so quickly.

70 and 80 is a big difference, hun.

[Quote] a Nazi anti-Semite

As opposed to...?

Loved Raquel Welch in Bedazzled.

*RIP* Ms, Welch, you had great innings, now it's time to rest.

Raquel on Politically Incorrect during the Clinton administration⬇️

Here it is R308

This one was a shock to me. Yes...she's was in her eighties, but there are recent photos of her looking very good and healthy. She did put on weight during Covid...but who hasn't? There was a timelessness about her. She had one of the best (or the best) bodies of her time and was very beautiful. Another icon of my youth...getting old sucks. RIP Ms. Welch.

[quote]Truly bizarre tweet. Well, no - she didn't have breast implants (as far as we know) because she was naturally busty. And she hadn't had Botox when this photo was taken, because she was still young. WTF is his point?

I think you misinterpreted that Tweet, Stein was stating that Raquel's natural figure was what a lot of women looked like before they got fake tits and Botox, he never stated Raquel had anything work done. He was trying to get across Raquel was a natural beauty.

R310, in addition to the downer of seeing stars from your youth dying is the recognition that you won’t live long enough to see the closing acts of younger celebrities.

Amazing thing is how Ms. Welch kept her figure despite having a few kids.

rather have Raquel's plastic surgeon rather than Jane Fonda's

Daily Fail has recent pictures taken of Ms. Welch (taken in January). While she looked great for an 82 year old woman, we're not talking about same as say 20 years ago.

See link to follow

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[Quote]in addition to the downer of seeing stars from your youth dying is the recognition that you won’t live long enough to see the closing acts of younger celebrities

at the rate they're dropping I've seen and will continue to see the closing acts of many young celebrities

"Again with the "brief illness" shit. Every celeb dies after a "brief illness" these days. Tell us what really happened, dammit!"

Honey at 82 a brief illness can be the common cold. Once above age 70 and certainly 80 any minor infection or whatever can result in death. Ask doctors or nurses how a once seemingly vibrant 80 year old person can go downhill fast.

"Her daughter WAS very beautiful, but with even less talent than her mom. Curiously, she was rather flat chested."

That's ok, at least in film "Cocoon" Steve Guttenberg had enough chest for both of them...

Raquel on The Talk 10 years ago

Regarding, how was Raquel to Farrah on the Myra Breckinridge set. I've read she was quite a bitch to the young ingenue.

1968 The Tonight Show

[quote]As for other bits such metal joint replacements, dental fillings, etc.. they are left in body and recovered from the ashes after cremation. We know from the ghoulish practices of Nazi Germany there is money in metal after bodies are cremated. This is still true today, though local laws may dictate who benefits from sale of such recovered metals.

So the good news we can take away from this is that some of Raquel may finally be upcycled into something useful, like a handy kitchen implement!

She was utterly convincing as a neuroscientist in Fantastic Voyage, at least to me as a kid at the matinee.

I hope the Academy chooses the clip of her whipping that guy’s bare ass from Myra Breckinridge for the mournful In Memorium dirge.

[quote] Stein was stating that Raquel's natural figure was what a lot of women looked like before they got fake tits and Botox[] ... He was trying to get across Raquel was a natural beauty.

So what if people get plastic surgery to achieve a certain look. Why exalt someone who is "natural"? It's not something they worked hard for, especially when young & active.

The only thing I don't like is people lying about plastic surgery.

Looking a pics of RW in linked Daily Fail article it doesn't seem as if the woman had that much (if any) work done.

IMHO at 89 Requel Welch looked better than Goldie Hawn who is about then years younger.

Meanwhile Jane Fonda is off to Austria!

[quote]So what if people get plastic surgery to achieve a certain look. Why exalt someone who is "natural"? It's not something they worked hard for, especially when young & active. The only thing I don't like is people lying about plastic surgery.

That was not my point. Can you comprehend a person's post or are you dense?

The poster upthread misconstrued the linked Tweet. The poster thought the Tweet was insulting to Raquel, it wasn't. The Tweet was the complete opposite, the Tweet was praising Raquel's natural figure.

Now, go run off and get the plastic surgery you require.

James Ivory savaged her in his memoir “ Pure Ivory.” She was in his “ The Wild Party” and demanded that he apologize to her in front of the company because he had not respected her. It’s an entire chapter in his marvelous book.

R297 maybe she sensed that you were incapable of writing in the past tense.

Watching “The Three Musketeers.” The light, focus and cinematography are fantastic.

Raquel has very overplucked 1970s eyebrows.

Raquel loathed Jim Brown who touched her inappropriately during the filming of 100 Rifles. Then in a bed scene he put his tongue in her ear and she lost it - shut down filming for the day.

The husbear's gay uncle worked part time at a movie theater on Hollywood Blvd while in Uni.

100 Rifles premiered there. Unc said RW was the most beautiful woman he'd seen in his life. He liked that she was quiet/demure as well.

Not like those other loud -mouth and highly animated attention-seeking actresses at their premieres.

[quote]r313 Amazing thing is how Ms. Welch kept her figure despite having a few kids.

She had them when she was a teen (whore)

Raquel got down and dirty and athletic in Kansas City Bomber.

[quote] Truly bizarre tweet. Well, no - she didn't have breast implants (as far as we know) because she was naturally busty. And she hadn't had Botox when this photo was taken, because she was still young. WTF is his point?

His point was that before the prevalence of boob jobs and Botox there were natural voluptous breasts and beauty, an example being "the one and only Raquel Welch.

She had little talent (but more than I think she was given credit for) and was said to be ""difficult" to work with, but she was really something to look at. That body...whew! Now that was a body.

The photo of her in the deerskin bikini is one of the most iconic Hollywood images of all time.

I'll miss you queen.

It's possible that she could've had silicone injections to enhance her breasts. Legit doctors used to offer them before implants were a thing.

There was a huge crowd at the Palace stage door one evening after a WOTY performance, so I joined them as they waited for Raquel.

She emerged wearing dark glasses and a smile, with her then husband Andre close behind holding a small dog.

Raquel did not stop to sign and barely acknowledged the crowd except for her frozen smile. They entered a waiting car and sped away.

Eventually, she tired of the show, told the producers she was pregnant and left for an island vacation when she “miscarried”.

Raquel redux

I remember Raquel guesting on the Mike Douglas Show in the 1960s and Totie Fields was the week’s co-host.

Totie’s opening remark to Raquel was “People mistake me for you all the time”, which got a huge laugh from the audience.

r24 wow, did TMZ seriously post a pic of her with a visible wig line? Or am I just seeing things?

Who did it better?

Did they fake her last note - the run up - in Le Jazz Hot? Sure looked that way....

Dick Cavett just doesn't know what to do with himself.

Requel Welch is three times the woman nature intended for Mr. Cavett.

1967 Oscars broadcast.

You have to give it to her; Ms. Welch made the best of what she had, which is likely why people loved her so much.

Raquel Welch was part of the new breed of Hollywood sex symbols that came after Marilyn Monroe. Attractive and stacked, but no one's fool.

Sorry, wrong link.

Touring with Bob Hope entertaining the troops

Discussing Myra Beckinridge on Dick Cavett show.

By today's standards they weren't that big.

RW was a big fan of the religious right as she did the 700 Club several times.

She was a big right wing bitch who most likely voted for the orange turd both times.

Poor Raquel. Over 300 posts and the most interesting one was R263’s snap of Dolly eating. In public. Who knew.

When I think of Raquel I conjure up images of her entertaining troops in Vietnam and on game shows like Hollywood Squares. I don’t know if she did either of those but she’s very C-list 70s to me and I couldn’t name a movie other than Myra. Yet she’s very much B+ list fake wise. A household name where everyone says “ooooh” if she walks out into a talk show but nobody has watched a full length movie with her in it.

Nobody, hun?

She held it together and was a marvel of engineering for decades. It was a very swift decline to old age decrepitude.

She never got into pills or booze and she didn't whore around or suffer scandals. Almost unheard of in Hollywood.

^ Lending her name & image to anti-gay bigots is a scandal you dolt.

My ex produced a show she was guesting in. She came in early, checked the lights, made them move some and tape her so she could see how she looked. She was very funny, very professional and quite courteous. When he asked her how she keeps in such good shape she said, "I haven't eaten anything that tastes good in 60 years."

I missed Raque Welch being the sexy Anita Bryant. I wasn't paying attention Raquel for 40 years, however.

Well R357 RW won't be eating anything that tastes good for the next 60 years...

RW checks Dick Clark.

DF link to follow

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Many Hollywood are or were connected with the 700 Club.

There's Brian Dennehy for a start.

^^ Stop making excuses for her multiple appearances on that criminally homophobic show.

There are plenty of Republicans in Hollywood.

This fact is unfortunate. Not scandalous.

R364 No one said being a repub was scandalous.

BIGOTRY ENABLING is scandalous.

We've done this before; yes there are plenty of republicans in Hollywood, this has been true going back decades. It does not follow however all of them are down with the Orange Lunatic and what GOP has become since Moral Majority hijacked the party.

Conservative republican as Charlton Heston was he didn't have much love for John Wayne. The latter would be right at home with what passes for GOP today.

One of reasons republicans keep losing local and some national races is they nominate people moderate or other sane GOP won't go near with a barge pole. So GOP voters don't bother and democrat candidate wins and or they vote for the dem.

That video of her being interviewed about Myra Breckinridge is A-Level Hollywood actress BS.

Her cuntery was notorious (Bianca del Rio was the last one to refer to it), and she pretends that in 1969 she got all the nuances of Gore Vidal's book. I don't believe a single word she says. But she can certainly throw on the charm act, that's for sure. Bitch: you're as tough as a dock worker: stop bunging it on. If she'd knocked off the caramel purring BS, and played her ball-breaking real self, she might have scored some good meaty roles in later life.

[Quote]No one said being a repub was scandalous. BIGOTRY ENABLING is scandalous.

Even if this made sense it would be amusing.

She got along well with Miss Dunaway on the Three Musketeers movie according to Michael York at a TCM event.

(sorry to disappoint)

R368 = Log Cabin Loon.

^^ another misguided shot in the dark.

R368 thinks bigotry enabling is "amusing".

Raquel Welch was not anti gay, trollina.

She carried those jugs long enough.

WTF I saw people on my Twitter timeline posting photos of her last night, had absolutely no inkling it was because she died!

She was just in the tabloids about two or three months ago, out and about. I guess "brief illness" was probably some kind of cancer.

[quote]Wasn't she just the subject of a thread here? She didn't look unhealthy

The Daily Mail photos where she's joking around while getting a manicure were last July. She did look just fine. I remember we had a troll who insisted she was sick because she "was in hiding," but the truth was that she'd been featured in pap shots in the DM about once a year.

r122 is 81 years old

I bet she was a lot of fun off camera. What a life!

Raquel always looked Spanish to me. Wide face, eyes, shoulders and hips. Like Rocio Jurado (linked). Rita Hayworth had the same look as well.

"Raquel always looked Spanish to me"

A duh!

Raquel Welch's given name was Jo Raquel Tejada. Her father was a from Bolivia ( Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo )

r369 people like fights and feuds. they get their jollies that way. pigs.

"She was very funny, very professional and quite courteous".

She sounds a lot like me.

The Duh Troll believes Bolivians are Spaniards.

Dame Joan has posted a wigtastic tribute to her friend Raquel. As mentioned above, Joansie should be grateful to Raquel for turning down Alexis.

Raquel wouldn't have saved DYNASTY, though.

[quote]WTF I saw people on my Twitter timeline posting photos of her last night, had absolutely no inkling it was because she died!

Dick Van Dyke was trending last night and I thought he had died. Thankfully not -- he was just a guest on The Masked Singer.

R250 This makes me think that she was ill for a while (the massive weight gain) and maybe COVID did her in with her other illnesses. Thus, the family said 'a brief illness' referring to COVID, but not whatever other illnesses she was battling in her 80s.

Just my opinion.

A lot of people are exaggerating the weight gain. She had been slowly getting larger for years, like a lot of older people do, and was already pretty big when she was in that "Latin Lover" movie in 2017.

She looked 55 in 2017 but she was 77, which means that she was still dealing with all the health and aging problems associated with being 77, regardless of external appearances.

[quote]Wasn't she just the subject of a thread here? She didn't look unhealthy

She was old, old people die.

Her best acting was in Seinfeld when she beat up Elaine.

Fuck her and her damn wigs.

R328 Is that Jane Fonda, or her wax replica in Madame Tussaud's? I can't tell.

R388 Looks 65, at least

R388 She looks at least 70 in this photo, not 55. You need an eye doctor, pronto !

I still think she had comorbidity illnesses in her later years, and succumbed to COVID (which they called a brief illness). Medications for different illnesses can cause serious weight gain on a person in a short amount of time.

Except she'd been gaining weight for years, not in a short amount of time.

R388 Oh honey, she doesn't look 55 there.

R366 "CHARLTON HESTON would not work with the legendary Hollywood star John Wayne in a film that he starred in and directed because of his own political views. But years later, he expressed a lot of "regret" in turning down the Spaghetti Western icon."

John Wayne wasn't a Spaghetti Western icon. (Meaning: 1960s-70s westerns made in Europe by Sergio Leone and others). That was Clint Eastwood. Wayne was a Hollywood western icon.

When I read things like that in articles I don't even read the rest (and there are more and more things like that written by young entertainement writers who don't know what they're talking about).

Wayne said and beleived some controversial right-wing-associated things but he was moderate in some things, too, and well liked. I would say Ward Bond was more of a virulent right-winger who would possible be a Trumper today. Although Republicans of thse days who were let's say, Nixon supporters (like Jimmy Stewart, or Wayne) would most likely not be Trumpers. That's just my feeling, anyway.

In her memoir Raquel stated that she felt a need for religion in her life and every Sunday she began going to a Roman Catholic church. She sat near the back of the church so as not to attract attention and said that the people there were respectful to her and didn't act as though she were a movie star.

TAHNEE WELCH & STEVE GUTTENBERG

She was married four times and divorced four times.

R388- She did not look 55 in 2017 she looked TRANS in 2017.

Her tits aren’t big by today’s standards because everyone is obese now or has implants. And silicone implants were not hugely common back then, they existed, but a naturally busty woman would not get them for enhancement. Breast implants became common in the 1980s/1990s.

She probably got tired of dieting, later in life. That would explain the weight gain.

R402- My weight peaked in May 2021 at 274 3/8 pounds. As of this morning I'm down FIFTY FOUR pounds

How did I do it?

HARD WORK

I would assume she and Faye would have gotten along. They were in different lanes and what role would they ever be in competition for?

[quote] Raquel always looked Spanish to me.

If by Spanish you mean Hispanic, she was half Bolivian. The Spanish are from Spain, Europe.

Who knew?

“According to TCM, both Audrey Hepburn and Vanessa Redgrave turned down the lead role of Myra Breckinridge, while Elizabeth Taylor, Anne Bancroft, and Angela Lansbury were also under consideration.”

Angela was up for the Mae West role.

R407, So was Bette Davis, but she loathed the book.

I stole the MB paperback (with movie pics including the top of Mark Herron's butt crack) from Woolco when I was in the ninth grade. I eventually saw the movie a time or two on video. The book was a bestseller and as I recall, possessed of literary merit. But I never understood why? What set it apart, what was its message?

Per IMDB: "Welch turned down roles in Valley of the Dolls (1967), Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974), Lenny (1974), The Towering Inferno (1974), and Heroes (1977)."

So Sharon Tate, Ellen B, Valerie Perrine, Our Faye, and Sally Fields' roles, respectively?

Raquel Welch for the Diane Ladd role?

Raquel Welch for the Helen Lawson role?

She could have played the retahded nightclub singer.

R410, Natalie Wood also turned down “The Towering Inferno” before Faye was cast.

[quote] Raquel always looked Spanish to me.

[quote] If by Spanish you mean Hispanic, she was half Bolivian. The Spanish are from Spain, Europe.

I didn't take that to mean he thought Raquel Welch WAS Spanish, or even of Spanish ancestry. Just that she [italic]looks[/italic] like a Spanish person, with dark hair, high cheekbones, and olive skin.

Faye's presence in Towering Inferno is one of the things about it that sets it above the other disaster movies. All the role required was to bring on the glamour and she brought it in spades.

In the 80s she was big into working out and endorsed Bally’s gyms with commercials and workout videos.

R417 In the 80s, almost every actress in their 40s and 50s jumped on the cash train and endorsed fitness centers, while releasing their own workout videos* and 'health and beauty books'. I can't recall an actress who didn't. It was an easy paycheck then, and a way to show the industry they were still beautiful, fit and youthful.

* Except Bonnie Franklin, who hated exercising but she loved to tap dance !

Eva Mendes looks a lot like Raquel Welch.

[quote] I didn't take that to mean he thought Raquel Welch WAS Spanish, or even of Spanish ancestry. Just that she looks like a Spanish person, with dark hair, high cheekbones, and olive skin.

Spanish people come in all colors, from blond to dark. But I think he was using "Spanish" to mean something akin to Mexican, which is what a lot of elders do, especially on the East Coast. "We went to a Spanish restaurant" (meaning a Mexican restaurant) is a classic irritating use of the word Spanish.

She looked very Italian to me, but apparently she had no Italian blood in her.

[quote]If by Spanish you mean Hispanic, she was half Bolivian. The Spanish are from Spain, Europe.

No, I wrote Spanish because I meant SPANISH. I even provided a pic of a Spanish super star to illustrate the point.

I'm a Spaniard so I know where Spain is located. It seems many of you are confused.

.

R421, I tried.

Did Streisand comment?

418 Sheena Easton also endorsed Bally’s total fitness in the late 80s while she was in her 20s. So you didn’t have to be over 40 to do it.

R418

Her ex-husband Patrick Curtis died in November. He played the uncredited role of baby Beau Wilkes in "Gone With the Wind."

Babs looks like an aardvark standing next to the divine Raquel.

[quote]r404 I would assume she and Faye would have gotten along. They were in different lanes and what role would they ever be in competition for?

They were both very self centered, demanding divas who wouldn’t give an inch. The last person they’d want to be around was another control freak like themselves.

I never saw the movie, r429, how many scenes did they have together?

[Quote]She looked very Italian to me, but apparently she had no Italian blood in her.

Here she in an Italian film and certainly is convincingly Italian along the lines of Claudia Cardinale

CBS San Diego remembers their former weatherwoman. @ 0:33 she does indeed look like Anita Bryant as one poster indicated.

Her nostrils were huuuge

R433, Excuse me?

Those nostrils gave Dionne her beautiful tone.

She had a nose job early on and several touch ups so whatever she looked like is no indication of ethnic heritage.

R420 I grew up on the East coast, and still live here, and have not once heard someone say "We went to a Spanish restaurant..." when they meant a Mexican restaurant.

I had no idea Faye Dunaway was so loved, here. I never liked her.

R437 Me either. Pretty sure we know the difference between a Spanish and a Mexican restaurant.

I heard a TV announcer on CNN a couple of years ago point to a Mexiccan restaurant in a crime scene or something back East and say "a Spanish restaurant".

She's certainly not my favorite, r438, but she deserves credit where credit is due. Also, she really isn't mentioned all that much in the thread. They only did the one movie together.

R441 I wasn't referring to your post, it was the one who called Dunaway "Our Faye". I should have used the replay number it was R410. She's not my Faye. lol

*reply

R440 Isn't that just the sort of mistake someone could make since Mexicans speak Spanish, and Meixican restaurants have names that are in Spanish? Move along, nothing to see here.

I am your MISS DUNAWAY, bitches!!

Even after her career floundered she did have all of that Welches Grape Juice money to live off of.

I don't think so, Welch was the name of her first husband and they were divorced.

Yes. He was in The Shadows.

A friend who worked at the LA theatre where One Million B.C. had a sneak preview said that the audience laughed and booed Raquel's performance.......and she was in the audience that night and cried.......

I didn't think she was a bad actress, she got good reviews for playing Constance as kind of clumsy and dumb in The Three Musketeers. It was more that she didn't have a lot of personality on screen. She never had any particularly strong screen persona.

As I've said, r450, zero depth.

One moring before work I watched a movie on TCM called Flareup. (1969, I think.) The only Raquel movie I ever saw, really - I guess I also saw Myra Breckenridge but I'm not sure what that was. In this was she was a Vegas showgirl who is stalked (in LA, where she has moved)by a crazy guy who killed his wife (her bestie). Honestly, she was good. Jean Byron (the mom on the Patty Duke Show) played a mentor of hers, of sorts, who's obviously a lesbian.

How funny, r452. Jean Byron was just on Hawaiian Eye earlier.

Flareup trailer. Her leading man (the hero, not the villain) was James Stacy. He's not seen in the trailer except from the back. Very good looking, and a good actor. He was on the TV series (western), Lancer. IMDB says he was married to Connie Stevens and Kim Darby (from True Grit). Lost an arm and a leg in a motorcycle accident. Won two Emmys.

Didn't he also molest little girls?

R442= Employee at Weho Blockbuster circa 1996

R456 Sorry, I don't get it.

r454 He never won an Emmy. He was NOMINATED twice.

Has Jodie Foster commented?

The R454 trailer is the most degrading I’ve seen in quite a while. Can you imagine them doing that today?!

No, I can't

It’s not the imagery that’s the problem in the trailer, it’s the narration.

Alana Stewart was apparently a good friend of hers and it pains me to say that this Trump nutter (who’s going on 78) has aged ridiculously well. No plastic or puffy face tell tale signs , there was even a picture of her in a sleeveless top and her arms looked…not old. I have no idea what it is she’s doing but whatever it is it’s working.

Raquel was a stunningly beautiful woman. I always take it as a compliment when people mistake me for her when I’m out in public.

I suspect that will co tongue to happen, because the more time she is dead, the more we will look alike.

Surely the implant rumours come from her breasts looking so much larger from the 80s onwards. In the 60s they were big for a woman with such low body fat (genetic lottery) but as she aged they became big by any measure. Once in her 70s each one looked the size of a human head! Not sure if that’s implants or she gained a lot of fat in them as she aged. They used to call that becoming “matronly” but most women also gain in the tummy and back at the same time.

Look at the size of these things at the. National Aerobics Championships! 34:00

Raquel and Cher are fabulous singing together...

Susan Dey is too broken up to speak.

R463, Alana really has aged well. I don't think she and Farrah went for all of the plastic surgery trends. It's possible she's had minor work done, but it's very good work. I looked again at that pic with her, Raquel, and Dame Joan...Alana is definitely the only one not wearing a wig. She may have some hair filler pieces in for volume, but that's mostly her real hair. I still wonder why she and George HamilTan just don't get back together...they hang out together all the time.

Someone check on Rex Reed; its been several days since news of Ms. Welch's passing and not a peep about his Myra Breckinridge co-star

Myra Beckinridge was absolute filth!

Gorgeous Roger Herrin died back in 2014

I always enjoyed this incident as they filmed "Fantastic Voyage".

When filming the scene where the other crew members remove attacking antibodies from Raquel Welch for the first time, director Richard Fleischer allowed the actors to grab what they pleased. Gentlemen all, they specifically avoided removing them from Welch's breasts, with an end result that Fleischer described as a "Las Vegas showgirl" effect.

He pointed this out to the cast members - and on the second try, the actors all reached for her breasts. Finally, Fleischer realized that he would have to choreograph who removed what from where, and the result is seen in the final cut.

[Quote] I don't think she and Farrah went for all of the plastic surgery trends.

Are you kidding?! Farrah had the entire re-fit.

Not a very good look.

Farrah's first scene in Myra Breckinridge

R425 "Sheena Easton also endorsed Bally’s total fitness in the late 80s while she was in her 20s. So you didn’t have to be over 40 to do it."

I never said they had to be over 40 to do it. I said 'most actresses in their 40s and 50s jumped on the cash train ' to endorse gyms, write health and beauty books, etc. Never said they had to do it, and never said they had to be in their 40s and 50s to be hired for the endorsements.

R476 the fact is fitness companies were interested established celebs for their expensive tv ads to promote their gyms.

[quote] I still wonder why she and George HamilTan just don't get back together...they hang out together all the time.

I never quite bought the idea that George Hamilton is heterosexual.

R478 What post are you quoting?

R458 Oh, okay I'm sorry, I was WRONG. I looked it up at the time and that's how I remembered it. I'll throw myself on a spike fence or something.

Tom Selleck was in Myra Breckinridge too.

A nice tribute to Raquel here:

[quote] Raquel Welch Was More Than a Hollywood Sex Symbol

Yes. She was a woman who fought with everybody and wore a black dress with deep cleavage cut outs to her son’s wedding. In England.

Farrah Fawcett did have some unsuccessful plastic surgery.

R483 she was essentially naked at her son’s wedding?

[quote]and she brought it in spades.

Oh, yeah. Now I’ve got my eye on you, Bub.

That cleavage paid for the wedding. It's entitled to be there

[quote]IMHO at 89 Requel Welch looked better than Goldie Hawn

Wait’ll you see her in 7 years!

[quote]R488 That cleavage paid for the wedding. It's entitled to be there.

The event wasn’t held in a brothel!

Why is she dead? What the fuck was the short illness?

[quote]Why is she dead?

Because her short illness was fatal, R491.

Interesting that the TCM Remembers clips do not contain ONE WORD of dialog.

She would have looked so much better if that dress didn't have the cut outs.

I seem to recall that she got better reviews for her performance in Broadway's Woman of the Year than Lauren Bacall did.

Did Debbie get good reviews?

R495 by the time Bacall did Woman of the Year she croaked the songs thanks to decades of heavy smoking. Here she is in The Fan released in 1981 the year she won the Tony for Woman of the Year.

Bacall would have croaked the songs when she was 19.

Liz Smith was a big promoter of Raquel and her performance in Woman of the Year. She probably had the hots for her.

Cindy Adams, on the other hand, loathed her. I talked to Cindy back in 1996, and she said that the two most difficult celebrities that she's ever encountered were Barbra Streisand and Raquel Welch. She said that Raquel was nasty and rude.

Everyone should be rude to Cindy Adams.

Cindy Adams is approximately 92 years old.

Her birth date cannot be verified.

Anyone I know who has put short illness in the obit meant aggressive cancer - lung, pancreas or acute leukaemia. A coworker did that Mt Hood race last summer. He was in amazing shape. He died on Christmas Eve. The time from feeling under the weather to being in a body bag was 4 days. Leukaemia. I’ve never know anyone to live more than a few months after discovering they had pancreatic cancer, including my uncle. His sons used ‘peaceful after a short illness” when the reality was a hellish 4 months of pain and delirium and confusion. They were too traumatised to see the words pancreatic cancer in print at the time.

Raquel just looks 81 in those “final photos” I very much doubt she had a terminal illness at the time.

A coworker left work early one Friday afternoon feeling feverish.

He died Sunday evening, “undiagnosed leukemia” was his cause of death.

29 years old, he and his wife had just had their first child.

Well, she did anyway.

[quote]R494 She would have looked so much better if that dress didn't have the cut outs.

It’s additionally tacky to wear black to a wedding. It sends the signal one’s in mourning about the event.

You also don’t wear red because it appears you’re trying to pull focus from the bride.

Why Raquel would choose this outfit on this day is very mysterious… or very revealing. She could afford just about any dress out there and THAT was her choice?! Clearly she couldn’t resist hauling her tits out to be the center of attention for even one afternoon.

Any clues to who her killer was and where they may be?

R505 Black is now totally acceptable to wear to weddings.

It’s up to the bridal party to okay black or not for guests. Never assume.

Regardless, a conscientious person would never show up in black. A conscientious mother of the groom, especially. Why on earth would you?

Omg, Raquel Welch was not conscientious!

r452

Thanks

[quote]R509 Omg, Raquel Welch was not conscientious!

You think parents shouldn’t behave conscientiously at their child’s wedding?

[quote]r509 Omg, Raquel Welch was not conscientious!

Well, that’s why she was more or less despised by coworkers…

How long did the son's marriage last?

Some YouTube commenter claimed that he was the boyfriend of Raquel's brother for years. Any pics of said brother?

[quote]R514 How long did the son's marriage last?

Damon Welch and Rebecca Ferrene split after 15 months.

Thanks, r516. Unsurprising.

A very odd incident is that when Farrah Fawcett had a supporting role in MYRA BRECKINRIDGE (1970) she did a photo shoot wearing Raquel Welch’s wardrobe. I don’t know if it was the studio’s idea, or designer Theadora Van Runkle‘s, or Fawcett herself’s… certainly it wasn’t Raquel’s!

I can’t even picture what would have happened if she showed up that day, and was like, “Where are all my costumes??” The wardrobe mistress would have edged toward the door, murmuring, “Um, they’re being used on… Miss Fawcett?”

Sometimes contract players would do wardrobe tests for bigger stars. I guess they were preliminary.

R468 Farrah most certainly did - and it was not a good look.

Also, you can rationalize that the photos have filters but the videos do not - and she still easily looks 20-25 years younger, for real (Alana that is). She also didn’t get any thickness around the middle that most older women get to at least some extent.

She's likely a very disciplined eater.

Those aren't costume test shots, r520.

[quote]R520 Sometimes contract players would do wardrobe tests for bigger stars. I guess they were preliminary.

I’ve never heard of this practice before.

The pics are by Bruce McBroom, who later did Fawcett’s famous poster.

Were they published anywhere, r524?

I don’t know. I don’t even know why they were shot. It’s very unusual.

Yeah, r526. I wonder if they did it after the movie was shot. I can't imagine what Raquel would have done if it had been during the shoot.

Farrah Fawcett was a strung-out alchie and then she had cancer. I don't think bad plastic surgery ruined her looks.

This is how costume tests are done...

and...

Coke probably ruined Farrah's nose. That and O'Neal's fists.

Obituary..

From The Guardian..

[quote]R527 I wonder if they did it after the movie was shot. I can't imagine what Raquel would have done if it had been during the shoot.

If Fawcett had been under contract to 20th Century Fox at the time, it would make sense, because studios would get the best pictures they could of their long term employees for publicity and such. And that Theadora Van Runkle wardrobe is amazing.

But Fawcett was under contract to Screen Gems at the time, I think, which was a division of Columbia Pictures.

It’s an elaborate photo shoot with several locations, inside and outside. She’s even straddling a big sign at one point!

The photographer Bruce McBroom is still alive. If anyone knows a friend of a friend of his, get answers!

He's 84, r534, I wonder how his memory is.

Beat it out of him!

Raquel's sister, Gayle, died in 2020.

R512 You're the only personon earth claiming she didn't. When you give a truly legit example of how she "didn't behave conscientiously" (which will be never) then maybe you'll have a point.

Gayle was bosomy as well.

That is the gay brother?

Why are there three names listed when Raquel only had two siblings? Who is Castillo Tejada?

R537, Isn’t that Raquel in the middle?

The article in R537's pic makes no sense. It says her brother, James, died in the early 1990's, yet that pic was taken in 2010.

R543

See RW obit in the Guardian or elsewhere; she is survived by her brother Jimmy...

Jiiiimmmmaaayyyy ! ! !

Why is Raquel in the middle?

I'm watching Raquel in De Sica's The Biggest Bundle of Them All with Robert Wagner shot in Italy. Jealous, bitches?

R547, Wagner claimed when asked on Gilbert Gottfried’s podcast that he and Raquel never fucked.

R548 Well, of course, they didn't. RJ prefers the cock.

Wagner's wig in the De Sica film is not to be believed especially in the wind.

Even during the height of La Dolce Vita as Raquel filmed in Rome she didn't whore around.

[quote]Wagner's wig in the De Sica film is not to be believed especially in the wind.

What makes you think it was a wig? Wagner isn't bald.

Even Wagner wrote that he thought a certain wig he wore in a film made him look like Jane Wyman. Hes been wearing wigs and pieces for decades.

R552, That was “Prince Valiant”.

RW as the "stealth Latino".

Viola Davis and other celebrities respond to news of Raquel Welch's death.

Filming Myra Beckinridge sounds like a grade A cluster fuck.

An appalled Bette Davis turned down role of Leticia van Allen. Lucky Mae West was induced to come out of her crypt and proceeded to behave every inch of the ancient diva that she was.

The obituaries have all pointed out Raquel Welch's comedic abilities as an actress. I have a new respect for her, after enjoying seeing her performances in The Three Musketeers and Seinfeld.

Many obits and interviews with others highlight her sex appeal to men from her role in Fantastic Voyage onward. While most men enjoyed seeing her in the skintight rubber (neoprene?) wetsuit, I along with countless gay men really enjoyed seeing Stephen Boyd in a skintight wetsuit!

R557, Raquel tried desperately to fuck him, but he wasn’t interested.

Raquel's "before" pic.

She looked a little like Patsy Cline.

Okay, I will tell my RW story: I was working on "Welcome to the Captain", a tv sitcom show (2008? 2007? it didn't get picked up because the writer's strike happened during ep 6 or 7 filming). She did her own makeup and hair (which was immaculate), and had an elderly black assistant woman (who really didn't do anything). I happened upon both of them in the bathroom, and the assistant said I looked like Sandra Oh, and Raquel replied, "Oh she's much prettier than she." We kind of hit it off after that (no one would talk to her), and I used to accompany her sometimes from the set to where ever. She told me that she always married for love, never money.

She also fractured her ankle wearing little kitten heels on set on Friday, but on Monday, she was back on set working. She was delightful to work with (I guess flattery will get you places), but Jeffery Tambor was a bit of a bastard on set, but strangely not off the set- we learned that you cannot erase "Scientologist Jeffery Tambor" from the internet at that time. Also Chris Klein really was torn up over Katie having a baby with Tom.

Fuck you, Jo-Raq!

R561, I remember watching 'Welcome to the Captain'. Totally forgot it premiered during the writer's strike. It was a cute show; maybe 5 eps aired?

R559 She was still beautiful before the Hollywood makeover.

Welcome...

R552 Yes, of course he wore a wig in Prince Valiant, duh. This isn't a hairpiece, it's his hair.

Wig hat, gurl.

R567 No.

[quote]Viola Davis has remembered Raquel Welch as an “ageless” beauty.

Who took up a LOT of space.

Actually, r569, she took up *two* spaces.

[quote] and had an elderly black assistant woman (who really didn't do anything).

R561, was it the same woman we see with her in R474's pics? (if you scroll down you see RW with an older black woman holding her hand).

Here they are: Raquel Welch!

Farrah Fawcett told a funny story about Raquel on the set of Myra B. They played lovers and they had a dialogue scene together where Raquel's close-ups were shot first and Farrah's second. Just before they were ready to shoot Farrah, Raquel says to her, "You know, you should do something about the yellow in your teeth. In person it's not noticeable but where you're up there on the huge Panavision screen..."

[quote]RW as the "stealth Latino".

Oh, dear!

r971, maybe? But my lady looked older than Raquel. If it is the same lady, the weight gain looks good on her.

Who'd have thought Raquel would be the first to leave this quintette?

That's a 1960s shot of A-M, right?

It looks pretty close to the A-M of the mid-70s.

I remember her best in an early-2000s series called American Family, which ran on PBS. It starred Edward James Olmos and was about a Hispanic family living in Los Angeles. Raquel played the flighty aunt. I guess it could be considered stunt casting, but I thought she was very good in it.

r579...

[quote]Who'd have thought Raquel would be the first to leave this quintette?

Is that really Cher? I swear it's a Cher drag queen.

"... for strength and vitality. It's really quite delicious."

Same old Raquel vocal delivery. It really dated her.

Lauren Bacall was feared and loathed by many in the "Woman of the Year" Broadway company. She played the role for over a year and the company breathed a sigh of relief when Raquel Welch took over and not only received glowing reviews, but was selling tickets.

A month into Raquel's run the crew circulated t-shirts they'd had made which said "Bring Back Betty!"

Looks like people are not having anything to do with Kim Kardashian being named any sort of heir to Raquel Welch's bombshell throne.

" Sunny Hostin laughed as the audience booed, joking that they were "turning" on her after she suggested Kardashian as the modern-day equivalent to the late Welch's sex symbol status."

Raquel Welch is now listed on Find A Grave for those wishing to leave flowers. Still no word on funeral or burial details.

My guess is everything will be private much like Leslie Jordan with some sort of public memorial service later on.

Think what a circus Marilyn Monroe's funeral was and that occurred sixty some odd years ago; with today's modern technology funerals for famous persons have potential to become even more of a circus.

That being said if Ms. Welch is going to have a Catholic service (with or without a mass) a church must be booked and thus some bits are made public regardless.

r585 Who was the last big public Hollywood funeral? Was it Frank Sinatra? I think even Elizabeth Taylors was private?

Elizabeth Taylor was buried with Jewish rites one day after her demise. Despite short notice it was a public funeral and tons of people turned up to gawk.

Speed of events likely helped keep a lid on what otherwise may have been a circus. You pretty much had to be in L.A. or able to get there in less than 24 hours.

Then consider given her age and recent health Ms. Taylor and or her family long had laid out plans for final arrangements. Much like Elizabeth II all that remained once death occurred was to put things into action.

I hope Raquel gets a magnificent tomb at Hollywood Forever Cemetery. No drawer for Miss Welch.

r586- Michael Jackson?

R577 this is Ann in the 60s the pic at R576 is definitely 70s

CBS did a little tribute to her.

R591, Nothing about me was little, sweetie.

[quote] Raquel says to her, "You know, you should do something about the yellow in your teeth. In person it's not noticeable but where you're up there on the huge Panavision screen..."

That might have been rude but it's actually good advice. Watching hi def movies I often find stained teeth distracting.on otherwise "beautiful" actors.

[quote]Think what a circus Marilyn Monroe's funeral was and that occurred sixty some odd years ago; with today's modern technology funerals for famous persons have potential to become even more of a circus.

No really comparable as Monroe was in her 30s, still a movie star, and along with E. Taylor the #1 female sex symbol/movie star in the world. (Was her funeral really a circus?) Raquel was a former movie queen in her 80s.

She was in Mother Jugs and Speed with puddin pop himself.

I wonder if he ever shared a refreshing Coke with her?

No, r590. A-M had abandone those eyebrows by the 1970s.

*abandoned

This is about Bacall, but I was home sick recently and watched a lot of old Password episodes. On that show, in the 60s, she was charming, self-deprecating, laughed a lot, was friendly and warm to the contestants. Would never know she was a bitch in real life! Then I read a memoir where the author said as a kid he and two friends rode their bikes to a location (Pasadena?) where she was making a film. They hung out outside her trailer, waiting to see her, then they asked for her autograph. Her response: "Get lost!"

R594, Marilyn Monroe’s funeral was not a circus at all. Joe DiMaggio took control and banned the Hollywood crowd from attending, even then President Kennedy’s sister Patricia Lawford.

Isn't there some sort of union rule or law that when an actors face is fully seen they are paid more?

Years ago watching a film being shot on location from window of a friend's apartment one of the extras turned his head to face camera and director lost it. Later asked around and was told something along above lines.

Not entirely, I think. She had many various looks over the years R596