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Only answer if you're really classy and knowledgable about art.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 12, 2023 12:29 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 12, 2023 12:31 AM |
Venus de Milo. I cried when I first saw it at the Louvre
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 12, 2023 12:32 AM |
The Thinker. I don't know how to post link or photos
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 12, 2023 12:32 AM |
The David, particularly it isn’t new setting, is just magnificent. I just stared and stared at what a wonder it is
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 12, 2023 12:35 AM |
r5 He is really gorgeous even with the small...
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 12, 2023 12:37 AM |
[quote]I know Mary
Magdalene?
Queen of Scots?
The contrary one?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 12, 2023 12:39 AM |
This thread died fast.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 12, 2023 4:49 PM |
Pieta for me- when I saw it in person I almost collapsed.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 12, 2023 4:55 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 12, 2023 4:57 PM |
So many already mentioned...
David
The Dying Gaul
But I like the Big Guys...
Farnese Hercules:
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 12, 2023 5:09 PM |
Hank Willis Thomas' "The Embrace." Who doesn't love a good snatch eating?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 12, 2023 5:18 PM |
One of my favorite sculptors is Doris Salcedo from Columbia. Many of her works deal with pain, trauma, mourning and loss, and are dedicated to people who have been disappeared. Her works are just heart breaking and gut wrenching, so much emotion is embedded in them for inanimate objects.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 12, 2023 5:19 PM |
Rachel Whiteread is perhaps the greatest living sculptor of the day. She explores the negative space of objects and architecture by casting the space into a sculpture. The space under chairs series is haunting and magnificent, but it’s her large scale works that just hammer home about the space we occupy, but never actually see.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 12, 2023 5:25 PM |
Janine Antoni was one of the art world’s enfant terribles for some time, but her works in soap, chocolate and lipstick were some of the most inventive pieces since Eva Hesse in terms of use (or misuse) of materials.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 12, 2023 5:32 PM |
By far the most impressive piece of sculpture I’ve seen in the last decade is Kara Walker’s A Subtly in the abandoned Domino’s sugar factory in Queens. Just mind blowing and unbelievable. She happened to be there that day giving a tour to visitors and she’s one of the most intelligent, thoughtful and intuitive artists working today.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 12, 2023 5:39 PM |
Really the greatest sculptor of the 20th century was Louise Bourgeois and her crowing achievement were the Maman Spiders.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 12, 2023 5:51 PM |
The runner up would be Richard Serra, especially his Torqued Ellipses.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 12, 2023 5:53 PM |
Ursula von Rydingsvard works in cedar and graphite are some if the most ethereal works of the last few decades.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 12, 2023 5:58 PM |
R21, seconded. I was astounded when I saw it in person.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 12, 2023 6:06 PM |
Nothing in the MET?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 12, 2023 6:18 PM |
R26 Collectively the Saint-Gaudens are magnificent, but even in their great numbers they’re a bit out done by the Diana in it’s setting at The Philadelphia Museum of Art.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 13, 2023 10:51 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 13, 2023 11:04 PM |
I collapsed into a sobbing wreck the first time I saw this.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 13, 2023 11:11 PM |
🤣🤣This is not Lucy @ r29..This is Lucille!!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 13, 2023 11:22 PM |
The photo depicted in R29's post is a black woman
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 13, 2023 11:23 PM |
I think she’s a bronze woman, and one with an extremely high zinc content at that.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 13, 2023 11:28 PM |
Any horse hung ones?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 14, 2023 12:15 AM |
The Kiss by Rodin. Don't know to link a picture here either...
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 14, 2023 12:15 AM |
R21: that’s incredible!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 14, 2023 12:15 AM |
[quote]Pieta for me- when I saw it in person I almost collapsed.
MARY. (Literally.)
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 14, 2023 12:42 AM |
It's interesting how, over the centuries, there seems to be a consensus as to what a great male ass looks like.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 14, 2023 2:44 AM |
Once saw this one at the Louvre and have obsessed over it ever since. I love the poignant juxtaposition of the strong, virile soldier feeding a baby with such tenderness and gentleness...and the dog licking at his feet...beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 14, 2023 5:10 AM |
Nydia, the blind flower girl of Pompeii. It doesn’t photograph well, but seeing it in person made me feel so much. Heartbreak, and hopefulness at the same time.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 14, 2023 5:10 AM |
Le Nonne Oro by the italian sculptor Maurizio Cattelan
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 14, 2023 5:15 AM |
Laocoön and His Sons.
I remember in grade school learning about this and there is an interesting story behind it. Apparently Laocoön pissed off the gods so they sent serpents to kill him and his two sons.
My teacher was discussing the pain in Laocoön's eyes. Not only his physical pain, but the pain he feels that he is unable to protect his sons. That's pretty deep for a kid to take in. But of course I concentrated on the hot naked dad with his naked sons.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 14, 2023 5:24 AM |
Fragmentary colossal head of a youth 2nd century B.C. Greek
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 14, 2023 8:08 AM |
Limestone statue of a young man mid-4th century B.C. Cypriot
Metropolitan Museum of Art
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 14, 2023 8:12 AM |
The Burghers of Calais.
Such a great true story.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 14, 2023 8:19 AM |
[quote]The Thinker. I don't know how to post link or photos.
Just copy the url of the photo into the box titled "Web Site Link".
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 15, 2023 12:36 AM |
Michelangelo's statue of Giuliano de' Medici in Florence's Medici Chapel. Giuliano's friends called him "Sexy Tits".
by Anonymous | reply 53 | February 15, 2023 12:47 AM |
Michelangelo’s Tomb of Julius II. I love the way he slyly put Jules at the very top, lounging like a slutty, effeminate odalisk.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | February 15, 2023 5:43 AM |
Winged Victory
It is incredibly beautiful to experience in person.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | February 15, 2023 5:45 AM |
R55, the article isn't 100% clear but it seems like the statue of Julius was sculpted by Michelangelos's pupils, which is surprising because it should be the tomb's most important sculpture. I assume Michelangelo made detailed drawings of what he wanted. The pope does look a bit like a coy odalisque. The Moses is stunning.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 15, 2023 5:57 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 59 | February 15, 2023 6:05 AM |
Statue of Osiris-Antinous, Egyptian Museum, Vatican
by Anonymous | reply 60 | February 15, 2023 6:10 AM |
Stone relief of Brahma from the museum at the University of Pennsylvania
by Anonymous | reply 61 | February 16, 2023 2:23 AM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 62 | February 16, 2023 6:57 PM |
"Unique Forms of Continuity in Space" (Italian: Forme uniche della continuità nello spazio) is a 1913 bronze Futurist sculpture by Umberto Boccioni. It is seen as an expression of movement and fluidity.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | February 16, 2023 8:11 PM |
Cloud Gate is a public sculpture by Indian-born British artist Anish Kapoor.
Snobs love to hate it.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | February 16, 2023 8:13 PM |
I believe I've read Hadiran had over 80 sculptures of his lover Antinous.
I like this one dated a little after 130 AD.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | February 16, 2023 8:28 PM |
That statue is one of my favourites too, R65.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | February 16, 2023 8:47 PM |
Thought you fags would be more familiar with this one.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | February 16, 2023 8:52 PM |
Lol, R70. You have a way with words.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | February 16, 2023 8:55 PM |
Statue relief of the Eternal Shiva (Sadashiva) from the Penn Museum at the University of Pennsylvania. It's currently on loan, probably to the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | February 16, 2023 9:18 PM |
Celestial Dancer (Devata) at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
Even I, as a gay man, can appreciate this statue, despite the exaggerated breasts.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | February 16, 2023 9:24 PM |
R74, shouldn't you get back to making your 64th post on the "Words You Don't Hear Anymore" thread.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | February 16, 2023 9:35 PM |
The videos on the Vatican Museums official website are quite good at showing the beauty of the statues with close-up details.
Here's the Museo Pio Clementino. The equestrian statue at the 1:26 mark has been reworked. The body is of an Amazon with a male head from a different statue attached.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | February 16, 2023 10:43 PM |
Apennine Colossus by Giambologna. It's about 98 feet high. It's in the garden of the Villa Demidoff in Tuscany.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | February 17, 2023 2:56 PM |
Limestone statue of Ramses II discovered near Memphis
by Anonymous | reply 82 | February 18, 2023 1:42 PM |
People, if you can pull up an image of it on Pinterest and link, it will always post. Don’t make us work to see what it is your blabbering on about.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | February 18, 2023 2:42 PM |
Why would you limit yourself to what's on pinterest? If clicking on a link is so much work for you, then skip the post.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | February 18, 2023 3:15 PM |
R84 No, not at all, but if you put the work of art, or the artist’s name, in Google with “Pinterest” and search images any that are posted there will always show up in a link as an image. It’s by far not my favorite sources, but it’s one of the easier work around for this board, which has such arcane and obscure issues about what can and can not be linked to and saves a lot of time doing trial and error to find one that does. There’s one person who constantly links art from something like Travelocity or some such place that never show up, and it’s like what the hell???
by Anonymous | reply 86 | February 18, 2023 4:44 PM |
For fellow Art Deco fans, my favorite sculpture/bronze is ‘La Comete’ by Maurice Guiraud Riviere (1891-1967). French circa 1925.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | February 18, 2023 5:11 PM |
Wow. Very cool, R87. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | February 18, 2023 5:58 PM |
The fictional statue of Dagoth, the Dreaming God in Conan The Destroyer.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | February 18, 2023 6:11 PM |
I frequently link to TripAdvisor, R86. I want to be sure I understand you correctly. Are you annoyed that the images aren't embedded and can't be seen as you scroll down the thread? Or when you stop at a post and click on the TripAdvisor link, the link doesn't work at all and you get no image. All the links work for me when I click on them.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | February 18, 2023 11:31 PM |
Perseus with the Head of Medusa by Cellini
by Anonymous | reply 91 | February 18, 2023 11:35 PM |
Lindy Lee’s work is really beautiful when seen onsite. She’s killing it in a commercial sense. Seems she gets a new major commission each week.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | February 18, 2023 11:50 PM |
Great choice, R92. Beautiful sculpture.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | February 19, 2023 12:12 AM |
Diadoumenos, National Archaeological Museum Athens
by Anonymous | reply 95 | February 20, 2023 6:23 PM |
R56,seeing Winged Victory all alone at the top of the long main stairs at the Louvre as a sixth grader was my first and most memorable museum experience. It was magical.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 20, 2023 7:10 PM |
It truly was for me as well R97. It took my breath.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | February 21, 2023 12:32 AM |
R98 has multiple personalities 😆. He addresses R97 but also calls himself R97.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | February 21, 2023 3:45 AM |
Sexy butts at the Met's collection of ancient Greek and Roman sculpture
by Anonymous | reply 100 | February 21, 2023 6:34 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 102 | February 21, 2023 5:10 PM |
R99 I realized that after I hit the post tab. Since we don't have an edit feature I decided to just let it go, believing most here have the sense to realize it was just a little mistake. Since you wish to make an issue of this, I most insincerely apologize for the error in my writing ways. You rule, babe. You are so cool. Thanks again for pointing this out. You're The Man today.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | February 21, 2023 5:31 PM |
Someone's touchy ...
by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 21, 2023 5:45 PM |
Jean Tinguenly. Swiss sculptor. kinetic and static works. If you can break out of the crustiness.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | February 21, 2023 5:48 PM |
Anything by Koons or Chihuly shattered on a street.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | February 21, 2023 5:56 PM |
"Quest Eternal," known locally as "The Naked Guy" (is he reaching for the stars or a towel?) which stood for years in front of the Prudential Center on Boylston Street in Boston.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | February 21, 2023 6:19 PM |
I was joking, R98. Sorry for offending you.
Love the statue at R107.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | February 21, 2023 7:02 PM |
Bust of Caracalla at the Louvre. I think he's ruggedly handsome.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | February 21, 2023 10:34 PM |
Untitled sculptures by Tony Cragg, created in 2020. They're located in the One Vanderbilt skyscraper in New York.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | February 21, 2023 10:39 PM |
Veiled Vestal Virgin by Raffaelle Monti (1847)
It’s part of an enviable collection of statues at Chatsworth House in England. I would love to see it in person. The sculptor’s skill at transforming marble to look like cloth (especially the sheer veil) is impressive.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | February 23, 2023 5:30 AM |
Not great works of art but pleasant enough. Reliefs on the Cirque d'Hiver building in Paris. I assume the guy with the club is Hercules.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | February 23, 2023 6:18 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 114 | February 23, 2023 11:49 PM |
probably detail of Hercules and Cacus statue by Baccio Bandinelli
by Anonymous | reply 115 | February 24, 2023 1:44 AM |
It really is beautiful and quirky, a rarity.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | February 24, 2023 3:02 AM |
Great point, R116. Many of Gehry's buildings are like pieces of sculpture and the Disney Concert Hall is one of the better ones.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | February 24, 2023 4:53 AM |
DLers struggling to post the image into the actual thread.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | February 24, 2023 5:55 AM |
Nah, it's better this way, R119. The image is a surprise.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | February 24, 2023 5:58 AM |
I mentioned the work of Doris Salcedo at R16. This is her latest piece:
by Anonymous | reply 121 | February 25, 2023 4:19 AM |
R121, thanks for introducing us to Rachel Whiteread, Doris Salcedo and Ursula von Rydingsvard. Very cool artists. I especially like R24.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | February 25, 2023 7:59 AM |
Carved ivory from 19th century China with the title:
Plaque with dragon, pheasant, quail, and other birds amidst bamboo and plum blossom
by Anonymous | reply 124 | February 25, 2023 8:13 AM |
Fountain of Diana. So elegant and aristocratic.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | February 27, 2023 6:01 AM |
Cupid Playing with a Butterfly by Antoine-Denis Chaudet
by Anonymous | reply 127 | February 27, 2023 6:04 AM |
Yes, I love that sculpture too, R129. From the same artist who gave us Perseus and Medusa / R91.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | February 27, 2023 6:41 AM |
Gian Lorenzo Bernini's The Ecstasy of Saint Teresa.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | February 27, 2023 6:51 AM |
R131, meet R96.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | February 27, 2023 6:59 AM |
[quote][R131], meet [R96].
What is your point? Because someone else also likes the same sculpture, another person cannot post it?
DL is now Control Freak Central.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | February 27, 2023 7:02 AM |
R131, Did you not see R96? Did you not?
by Anonymous | reply 134 | February 27, 2023 3:02 PM |
Apparently, St. Teresa is having multiple orgasms on this this thread!
by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 27, 2023 3:19 PM |
[quote][R131], Did you not see [R96]? Did you not?
That's NOT the point now, is it? Again, you bloody moron, if TWENTY people in this thread enjoy the same exact sculpture, are they not supposed to say so?!
WTF is wrong with YOU?
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 27, 2023 5:06 PM |
Yes it is the point, R136.
Did R131 not see R96? Did he not?
Once I read R96, I had sufficient.
What is wrong with [bold] YOU [/bold]?
by Anonymous | reply 137 | February 27, 2023 5:11 PM |
Girls! Girls! We can all choose Bernini as our favorite sculptor as unimaginative and in awe of technique and execution over artistic merit as that might be!
by Anonymous | reply 138 | February 27, 2023 5:57 PM |
R138, who the fuck are YOU to judge whether or not some piece of art, or artist is "unimaginative" or lacking "artistic merit."
Are you that former truck driver turned art critic who writes for NEW YORK mag, that annoying Saltz character?
by Anonymous | reply 139 | February 28, 2023 8:13 AM |
R139 Actually, I studied Art History, including in Italy, and worked at two major museums in NYC. Bernini is pure Baroque, which emphasized dramatic, exaggerated motion and clear, easy interpreted detail. It is art that takes very little to embrace and think deeply about, which is both it’s curse and it’s blessing. It is there to capture attention and emotions and engage viewers.
Technically, he’s one of the most superior practitioners of the art of sculpture, surpassing the Ancient Greeks, Romans and even Michaelangelo. Did I traipse around Rome and visit all his major works, yes. But liking Bernini for most is the equivalent of people who put posters of Monet’s waterlilies on their walls or Catholic families with pictures of The Pieta in their homes, it reaches a level of kitsch without examining the deeper meaning about how Bernini is using the style to manipulate and engage the viewer emotionally to draw them in and move them.
Most people who like his work do so for the most superficial and surface reasons, while remaining oblivious to why they are sophisticated works of art technically, their purposeful manipulation and what it means in the evolution of Renaissance to Mannerist to Baroque sculptural styles and it’s eventual evolution into the Rococo.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 28, 2023 9:11 AM |
Do you have trouble being assertive?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 28, 2023 9:33 AM |
R140 [quote]But liking Bernini for most is the equivalent of people who put posters of Monet’s waterlilies on their walls or Catholic families with pictures of The Pieta in their homes...
Your credentials aren't particularly impressive here and only mean something to you.
Some people ('classes' to you) have reproductions of artwork that they love. That doesn't make their aesthetics kitsch or their experiences shallower or less real than yours. You're a pedantic snob with a small, rigid set of old, stale ideas.
[quote]Most people who like his work do so for the most superficial and surface reasons...
Anytime anyone anywhere has to degrade everybody else in the room to build themselves up is a person who is incapable of self-reflection.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 28, 2023 12:50 PM |
I’ve had the burgers in Calais — they’re ok but they make them with weird cheese.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 28, 2023 4:21 PM |
Yeah, but it's probably full of plaster, not poop, R143. The "artist" himself said so.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 28, 2023 6:01 PM |
R43, I believe that's the shepherd Phorbas, not a soldier. In Greek mythology, he found the infant Oedipus abandoned on a hillside and rescued him.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 28, 2023 6:32 PM |
R102, I'd be sorely tempted to smash Jeff Koons's "Michael Jackson and Bubbles", not that I'd be able to compensate the gallery for the value of the sculpture. There's something about the campiness and decadence of the statue that really makes me cringe.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | March 1, 2023 3:26 AM |
But I do like Koons's "Rabbit" and balloon dogs. Maybe they're slick and soulless and commercial but I think they're fun and whimsical, despite the knife-like paw of the rabbit.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | March 1, 2023 3:29 AM |
R147 I saw that monstrosity in San Francisco many moons ago. I was filled with shock and awe ... and oh yes, horror.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | March 1, 2023 7:53 AM |
You're right, R149. It is horrifying though I guess some people think the campiness of the sculpture is funny. Koons does know how to provoke people.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | March 1, 2023 3:05 PM |
I approached the sculpture from the back side. I recall it was enormous. As I continued around the massive monster and came face to face with Bubbles I was forced to stop and wonder who was freakier... Jackson or the monkey. They made me feel sad. Chillingly overdone with all the gold, rouge, eyeliner, and red lips. Freaks.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | March 1, 2023 4:49 PM |
[quote][R139] Actually, I studied Art History, including in Italy, and worked at two major museums in NYC. Bernini is pure Baroque, which emphasized dramatic, exaggerated motion and clear, easy interpreted detail. It is art that takes very little to embrace and think deeply about, which is both it’s curse and it’s blessing. It is there to capture attention and emotions and engage viewers.
Smell you! You sound quite insufferable. Why don’t you insult people a little more. Perhaps some people simple enjoy the beauty and the whimsy of certain art?! They don't need to understand art to enjoy it.
Are you saying because you have a degree in Art History, which is actually a completely and utterly useless degree, unless you teach art or work in a museum or gallery, most Art History degrees are useless. A cousin's daughter has a degree in Art History, she now works at a Mac store. I notice many who have this degree cannot even sketch or paint, they have little to no actual technical talent as an artist.
I also studied art, I started drawing at 4-5 years old. In art college, I majored in the commercial end, I’ve been working as a commercial artist most of my adult life. I’ve also worked in many creative areas in the art world. I’m currently a Creative Director in the music and fashion fields.
I attended a NYC art high school, a NYC art college and then studied art in London while working there.
What this art high school did teach, many of the already talented students should figure out what end of art they hoped to work in, not go to college for some useless degree. These students were also taught to hone their artist abilities and focus on their strengths. The art high school had four art classes a day, in addition to the basic high school curriculum.
There were so many creative areas for the students to get a real job in: commercial art/graphic design, fashion illustration, photography, architecture, fine arts painting, sculpture and so many other areas of art. Art is obviously not only about drawing and painting. The art high school I attended was amazing, it still exists. The courses were college level, quite difficult for high school, but we all learned so much. Many famous successful creative people attended this same art high school.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | March 2, 2023 9:46 AM |
R140, I enjoy certain artists because their art pleases me visually, it makes me feel something. It doesn’t have to be any deeper than that. I don’t have to give snarky long winded reasons as to why I enjoy certain art. I don’t have to over-analyze the art I do enjoy and get inspiration from.
Art is for everyone to enjoy! That's what museums are for. If an artist can change the way people feel. more power to them.
My favorite artists are all over the map, I love Rembrandt, Klimt, Vermeer, Kiki Smith, Donald Judd, Waterhouse, Warhol, Yoko Ono, the late Gordon Matta-Clark and many others, which I'm sure you’d probably have something negative to say about each of these artists.
I probably know more than you do about certain aspects of art, however, I do not feel the need to lecture others. I sure don’t feel the need to show any sort of superiority on an anonymous message forum.
People should enjoy whatever art they are moved by, certainly without worrying about people like you putting down their appreciation because they don’t have a degree in Art History or attended any sort of art school.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | March 2, 2023 10:18 AM |
Yoko Ono?! R153 is obviously a joke post.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | March 2, 2023 12:16 PM |
statuette of Amun at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
by Anonymous | reply 156 | March 2, 2023 8:55 PM |
More pics of favorite sculptures please.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | March 2, 2023 10:15 PM |
Koons is laughing all the way to the bank, R151. He bought 11 and 13 East 67th Street for $32 million and planned to combine the two townhouses into a megamansion. This is an old article so I'm not sure if he still lives there.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | March 3, 2023 8:16 PM |
Very cool choice, R159. Not well known.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | March 4, 2023 6:58 AM |
Had to look up R139's comment on Jerry Saltz. He was indeed a truck driver!
by Anonymous | reply 161 | March 4, 2023 12:51 PM |
There's an interview with Jerry Saltz on the linked page. It's the fourth one from the top. I think he's smart and articulate, though not as funny as he thinks he is. He won the Pulitzer Prize for criticism. I don't think the fact that he used to be a truck driver and doesn't have an art history degree from a prestigious university has anything to do with anything. If you're very passionate about a subject, you can teach yourself in your spare time. His wife is an art critic for the NYT. Surely she wouldn't marry a hack.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | March 4, 2023 2:51 PM |
[quote]There's an interview with Jerry Saltz on the linked page. It's the fourth one from the top. I think he's smart and articulate, though not as funny as he thinks he is. He won the Pulitzer Prize for criticism. I don't think the fact that he used to be a truck driver and doesn't have an art history degree from a prestigious university has anything to do with anything. If you're very passionate about a subject, you can teach yourself in your spare time. His wife is an art critic for the NYT. Surely she wouldn't marry a hack.
If that's the case, people can say the same about any degree, why bothering study any subject. "you can teach yourself in your spare time." Seriously? You sure do need degrees to be doctors and lawyers, otherwise, you are George Santos.
Wonder how people who studied art, and can actually draw and paint, feel about people like Jerry Saltz always mouthing off. His most current diatribe about some current exhibition was exhausting to read. Years ago, he was one of the judges on some art reality show, he was exactly as I expected.
What's that expression, those who cannot do something, end up teaching it? This is the same about critics of anything, whether is be music, art and film.
Who cares about what any art critic has to say about art. The point of art, it can be enjoyed by anyone. Whether or not Jerry Saltz has an art degree is actually irrelevant, but what makes him such an expert? As far as I know he has zero artistic abilities.
Isn't there fact that someone like Jeff Koons, who doesn't even create his own art, enough of a reason to find art critics irrelevant?
by Anonymous | reply 164 | March 4, 2023 11:05 PM |
Peter Schjeldahl, born in North Dakota the son of the inventor of the air sickness bag, never graduated from college and was foremost a poet, yet was one of the most prominent Art Critics of the last forty five years.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | March 5, 2023 3:22 AM |
Richard Gilman was a prominent drama and literary critic for much of the second half of the twentieth century. Born in Brooklyn he went into the Marines before college at University of Wisconsin, but even his family questions if he actually graduated, and for most of his life he even lied about his age to them. He taught at Yale for over 40 years as an adjunct professor, despite not having any advanced degree.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | March 5, 2023 3:32 AM |
R164, I'm not saying that everyone can do what Jerry Saltz did. He must be very passionate about art and very hard working and have interesting things to say. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won the Pulitzer Prize and he wouldn't have been the senior art critic at "New York" magazine since 2006. It's not fair to compare art criticism to law or medicine. The stakes are a little higher in the latter two professions.
You definitely don't have to be an artist to be a good art critic. An artist can have excellent technical skill but still be mediocre because they can't come up with interesting, original artwork. An art critic can have great taste and be really good at evaluating art. You don't have to actually build buildings to be good at judging if a building is a good piece of architecture or an eyesore. Saltz actually was a somewhat successful artist until his late 20s when he became paralyzed with self-doubt and changed careers.
Someone can be an art history graduate but they might have been a mediocre student, only good at repeating what their professors said in class, but not having any interesting, original insights into what an artwork might mean. Or a student might have had very mediocre professors.
A certain section of the population will always be interested in what some prestigious critics think. Their reviews are a starting point for debate. No one is under the impression that these critics are infallible and these lists do change over time. I like looking at BFI's list of the greatest films of all time, even though some of the entries make me scratch my head.
And yes, you're right. Some movies, artists and musicians are critic proof and are big commerical successes despite bad reviews. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes a movie or song or work of art can be very fun and entertaining without saying anything profound about the human condition.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | March 5, 2023 6:02 AM |
Another vote for Apollo and Daphne by Bernini.
The instant Daphne transforms into a tree to elude Apollo is captured in such transient delicacy, the fragile leaves and twigs, the hair, the legs, carved from stone is awesome.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | March 5, 2023 6:07 AM |
I was always quit fond of the "Big Boy" standing guard at [italic] Bob's Big Boy Restaurant.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | March 5, 2023 6:07 AM |
Big Boy is the Winged Nike of Samothrace, of SoCal.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | March 5, 2023 6:09 AM |
Whoa, R171. Both are inspiring. I'd like to get a closer look at the one on the right. Great choice.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | March 5, 2023 6:54 AM |
R172: that’s Jarrod @jarrodscott, a very masculine Aussie model
by Anonymous | reply 173 | March 5, 2023 7:08 AM |
Thanks, R173. Unbelievably perfect body. Love the beautifully defined muscles.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | March 5, 2023 7:10 AM |
[quote}Who cares about what any art critic has to say about art. The point of art, it can be enjoyed by anyone.
Some people want to know what the New York Times or the Michelin Guide think are the best restaurants in the city. Others really don't care. It's the same thing with art.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | March 5, 2023 7:24 AM |
Orlando Furioso (showing off his assets) by Jean Bernard Duseigneur
by Anonymous | reply 177 | March 5, 2023 7:34 PM |
Shirtless guys showing their pecs.
Actually, the real subject is much more somber. These are statues of four captives from the pedestal of the equestrian statue of Henry IV on the Pont Neuf. The sculptor was Pietro Francavilla.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | March 5, 2023 8:51 PM |
Statue of Perseus in Ujazdowski Park in Warsaw
by Anonymous | reply 179 | March 6, 2023 2:49 PM |
Turning the World Inside Out II by Anish Kapoor
by Anonymous | reply 181 | March 8, 2023 2:09 PM |
"Veiled Christ", a 1753 marble sculpture by Giuseppe Sanmartino
by Anonymous | reply 182 | March 8, 2023 2:17 PM |
I like that one, R184. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | March 8, 2023 2:31 PM |
This old chestnut. Hermes and the Infant Dionysus
by Anonymous | reply 187 | March 8, 2023 7:15 PM |
Lol, R188. That sculptor needs more practice.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | March 8, 2023 8:11 PM |
Denis Foyatier's Spartacus and his dramatic facial expression.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | March 9, 2023 7:27 PM |
Oceanus statue at Kykuit, the Rockefeller estate in Pocantico Hills, NY
by Anonymous | reply 192 | March 10, 2023 8:30 PM |
^^^ That’s just a copy of the real one in Florence.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | March 10, 2023 8:38 PM |
Thanks, R193. I didn't know that. I thought it was an original creation.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | March 10, 2023 9:03 PM |
Triangular Surface in Space by Max Bill - Kykuit
by Anonymous | reply 195 | March 10, 2023 9:07 PM |
Kykuit is one of the most uninspiring homes of the wealthy open to the public I’ve ever been to. It’s hard to believe that this was built by someone in the same family as Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, though she was supposedly consulted on the design. The best artwork they paid for is the rose window by Matisse and the stain glass windows by Chagall at the Union Church nearby.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | March 10, 2023 9:15 PM |
R197, I've been to New York City a bunch of times but I've never been to Kykuit. My older brother did go and he brought me a souvenir book. Judging from the photos, it looks quite nice and I like many of the sculptures in the gardens. I'm surprised you were disappointed. I have heard people say the house is smaller than they expected. Which mansion museums in the northeastern U.S. do you prefer, R197?
You're right. The stained glass window at Union Church is beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | March 10, 2023 9:33 PM |
R199 Really the standout, and not very well known one is Olana, the home of painter Frederick Church, it is magnificent, especially on a crisp autumn day.
In the same area as Kykuit, is the most pristine example of American Gothic Revival Architecture, Lyndhurst. Some of whose rooms did show up in the Gilded Age tv show. It’s a little worse for the wear and tear, but is magnificent. The nearby home of Washington Irving is modest by comparison, but also a window into a different time nonetheless.
Of course the Gilded Age mansion that nothing can compare to is the Frick Museum, currently under expansion and restoration. Some of the great artworks in the world reside there and it has been left much like the home it was lived in, though the museum conversion did transform some spaces.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | March 11, 2023 1:02 AM |
R118 - We saw many Igor Mitoraj sculptures in Valencia at the City Of Arts And Sciences designed by Calatrava. Loved it.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | March 11, 2023 2:04 AM |
"Spot" by Donald Lipski, at the entrance to a children's hospital in New York City
by Anonymous | reply 203 | March 11, 2023 6:56 AM |
Oh cool, R202. I love Calatrava's architecture in Valencia (only seen photos; never been in person) and the Mitoraj sculptures in your pic.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | March 11, 2023 7:00 AM |
Yikes. Definitely not this one but it is memorable.
Duculi by Charles Avery, 2013
by Anonymous | reply 205 | March 11, 2023 7:40 AM |
Great choice, A Wire Hanger. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | March 11, 2023 7:46 AM |
In 2015 there was an exhibition in the median of Park Avenue of Calatrava’s work, which was one of the best ones they’ve done yet. I almost wished they could have stayed, though I think one of the corporate entities may still have one outside they’re headquarters.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | March 11, 2023 9:20 AM |
R201, New Yorkers are very lucky to have the Frick Collection and the Morgan Library which have survived more or less intact, with the exception of modern additions. I like the exterior of the house and the gardens in Old Westbury Gardens but the interior of the house is quite empty and a bit disappointing. That's probably very common with these old houses, ie. valuable artwork, furniture and decorative objects have been divided up among heirs or sold off a long time ago. I visited Sonnenberg Mansion in Canandaigua, NY because it was recommended by a travel guide. You could tell the house and gardens had been very nice at one time but it was a bit depressing to see all the repairs and restoration work that was needed. I overheard a guide say to a visitor that very few of the furnishings in the house were original. If an old house survives as a museum with valuable artwork, then there's always the possibility of robbery, like the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum.
I wanted to visit Olana but didn't have time.
I like flashy mansions like Marble House in Newport, Rhode Island 😆. You're probably familiar with it. The ballroom is shown in the link.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | March 11, 2023 5:12 PM |
Relief on stairs of Bethesda Terrace in New York's Central Park.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | March 11, 2023 5:43 PM |
The monumental Motherland Calls in Volgograd, Russia.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | March 12, 2023 8:10 AM |
One possibility is that the wood carving of the man showing his genitals was made by a carpenter who wanted to get revenge because he was very unhappy with the payment he got. The stone mason who carved the gargoyle of the man showing his butt on Freiburg Cathedral might have had the same motivation.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | March 12, 2023 8:40 AM |
Very posh sculptures, Posho.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | March 12, 2023 9:00 AM |
Marie Barone's abstract vagina on "Everybody Loves Raymond".
by Anonymous | reply 219 | March 12, 2023 9:06 AM |
thank u
by Anonymous | reply 220 | March 12, 2023 9:07 AM |
That sculpture is even funnier now that it's been posted for the third time on this thread, R219. Thank you so much.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | March 12, 2023 9:12 AM |
You're welcome, R221! Also, I'm not going to read the previous 218 posts.
I paid my $1.99, and I'll post what I want and when I want.
Shove it.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | March 12, 2023 9:17 AM |
You're very polite for a lawyer, R222. Thank you.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | March 12, 2023 9:22 AM |
NO, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER!
by Anonymous | reply 224 | March 12, 2023 9:26 AM |
Does anyone hv video recordings of R222 at work, especially at the court, arguing with the judges n the juries
by Anonymous | reply 225 | March 12, 2023 9:29 AM |
What kind of britspeak is that at R225?
by Anonymous | reply 226 | March 12, 2023 9:31 AM |
R226- R223 said R222 is a lawyer
by Anonymous | reply 227 | March 12, 2023 9:39 AM |
yes, I know. I am R222. And R226.
I assumed R225 was from the UK. Thus, my comment.
So, are U K, hon?
by Anonymous | reply 228 | March 12, 2023 9:44 AM |
R228- no, sorry
by Anonymous | reply 229 | March 12, 2023 9:46 AM |
you had me and then you lost me
by Anonymous | reply 230 | March 12, 2023 9:49 AM |
Relief plaque with a ram's head, ancient Egypt --- Metropolitan Museum of Art
by Anonymous | reply 232 | March 19, 2023 6:03 AM |
Meleager statue, radiating sexiness. Vatican Museums
by Anonymous | reply 233 | April 12, 2023 1:38 AM |
Bernini is one of the greatest. Here is his Ecstasy of Saint Teresa of Avila
by Anonymous | reply 235 | April 12, 2023 2:08 AM |
Is that Saint Anal Lingus?
by Anonymous | reply 237 | April 12, 2023 4:22 AM |
Not a saint I'm familiar with, R237. The cardinal's mitre does look phallic though.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | April 12, 2023 6:27 PM |
Alexander the Great from workshop of Andrea del Verrocchio
National Gallery of Art, Washington D.C.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | April 20, 2023 11:28 PM |
R241 - Thanks for sharing this magnificent piece with us, but that isn't a sculpture - it's a frieze.
by Anonymous | reply 242 | April 21, 2023 6:14 AM |
Friezes are sculpted. They aren't drawn.
by Anonymous | reply 243 | April 21, 2023 6:24 AM |
It's a bas relief, R242, which wikipedia says is sculpture.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | April 21, 2023 6:25 AM |
Okay, R243 and R244. If they are sculptures, then why do they fall under other names, like "Bas Relief" or "Frieze"? Ergo, they are NOT sculptures, but other forms of art (as beautiful as they may be . . . )
by Anonymous | reply 245 | April 21, 2023 7:55 AM |
Wikipedia doesn't lie, R245.
I imagine you use the same sculpting tools to make a bas relief as a sculpture in the round.
by Anonymous | reply 246 | April 21, 2023 10:30 AM |
Horses of the Hippodrome of Constantinople, possibly created in antiquity and fought over ever since. Snatched by the Venetians in 1204, then taken from them by Napoleon in 1797 before being returned to San Marco in 1815 after his defeat. They are back on display inside the basilica (there are replicas mounted on the facade where the originals once stood).
by Anonymous | reply 247 | April 21, 2023 1:03 PM |
Great choice, R247. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | April 21, 2023 1:29 PM |
The Dragon of Borrego Springs.
Really!
Huge sculpture sitting out there in the empty desert, where loops of dragon stretch for a city block, across the road. It's a well-done sculpture, that uses the landscape in a unique and wonderful way. Definitely stop by, if you ever have some Earthy reason to be in Borrego Springs.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | April 23, 2023 4:09 AM |
Actually, when we had our tour of the Vatican, I decided that my favorite sculpture for all time is the Pieta'. If you just stand there and study it, it is raw and powerful and very emotional. I'm not religious. I was viewing it as just art without a religious connotation. It said, "They killed my son..."
by Anonymous | reply 252 | April 23, 2023 1:13 PM |
It is remarkable, R252.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | April 23, 2023 1:20 PM |
That is a masterpiece, R254 😆. It should be in one of the world's great museums.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | April 23, 2023 1:22 PM |
One of the things that struck me about the Pieta' was that Michelangelo portrays Mary as rather young. But this piece is so lifelike you half expected it to move. I later found out that was one of his favorite subjects and he sculpted it in various forms repeatedly. People talk about his Sistine Chapel frescoes and yet it was his sculptures that were remarkable, IMO. I guess he was that rarity who could do it all.
by Anonymous | reply 256 | April 23, 2023 1:28 PM |
The sculpture was made in 1925 by Albert Jaeger for the Minnesota State Capitol. I can't find too much info about it.
If those are just breeches on the man, they sure look weird in the crotch area 😄.
by Anonymous | reply 258 | April 25, 2023 1:01 AM |
The German Pioneer is horny and he's being tempted from his farm work by the near-nude, muscled satyr.
by Anonymous | reply 259 | April 25, 2023 1:04 AM |
I love David and his normal looking peen and balls. He is my ideal.
by Anonymous | reply 260 | April 25, 2023 1:16 AM |
David's head is unnaturally large.
But I'm told it had to be large because most viewers were looking at it from 14 feet away.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | April 25, 2023 1:21 AM |
Maybe I've already posted it earlier in this thread but I get a kick out of Albert Jaegers sculptural group "Military Instruction" on the Steuben Monument in Lafayette Park in Washington D.C.
I can't help thinking of a homoerotic daddy-twink relationship when I see it.
by Anonymous | reply 262 | April 25, 2023 1:31 AM |
Yes, R261. Originally David was supposed to be placed on a higher position on the exterior of Florence's cathedral. Michelangelo made David's head larger so it would have the right impact from that high position.
by Anonymous | reply 263 | April 25, 2023 1:35 AM |
I get a kick out of R262, too.
But do you think that fig leaf was sculpted 'in situ'
by Anonymous | reply 264 | April 25, 2023 2:02 AM |
The headless tit bird at McMaster University in Hamilton Ontario.
by Anonymous | reply 265 | April 25, 2023 2:22 AM |
^
Grotesque. An offence against nature.
by Anonymous | reply 266 | April 25, 2023 2:23 AM |
Good question, R264. It looks like the fig leaf was added on.
I assumed Washingtonians would be prudish about male nudity and there wouldn't be any statues without a fig leaf from the 19th and early 20th century but I did find this figure from the Court of Neptune fountain close to the Library of Congress. Then again, his penis and testicles aren't sculpted in the same obvious way as Michelangelo's David.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | April 25, 2023 3:46 AM |
Yup, it looks like the tritons, or whatever they are, on either side of Neptune are anatomically correct too.
by Anonymous | reply 268 | April 25, 2023 3:51 AM |
Very nice statue, R269. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | April 25, 2023 4:05 AM |
^ His hips are too slim.
by Anonymous | reply 271 | April 25, 2023 4:06 AM |
You're right, R271. The sides of his torso are too straight but he's still aesthetically pleasing.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | April 25, 2023 4:11 AM |
The sprays of water behind him form a fan shape like something by Erté.
by Anonymous | reply 273 | April 25, 2023 4:21 AM |
I'm also a big fan of. Erté's drawings. We have the same taste, R273.
by Anonymous | reply 274 | April 25, 2023 4:23 AM |
I'd prefer an Apollo who looked like a man rather than a chorus girl from the 'Folies-Bergere'.
(BTW I once saw Chris Hemsworth lingering around this statue many years ago now)
by Anonymous | reply 275 | April 25, 2023 4:27 AM |
Statue of nude youth by Josef Müllner in Vienna's Volksgarten
by Anonymous | reply 276 | April 25, 2023 4:40 AM |
David is such a beautiful image of the penis resting on the balls. I love it.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | April 25, 2023 5:03 AM |
[quote](BTW I once saw Chris Hemsworth lingering around this statue many years ago now)
Sanjay, you live in Winnipeg. You've never been to Australia 😆.
by Anonymous | reply 278 | April 25, 2023 5:15 AM |
[quote]The German Pioneer is horny and he's being tempted from his farm work by the near-nude, muscled satyr.
I don't know what century the pioneers are supposed to be from but you'd think they'd be able to choose a material and make it thick enough so that a guy's willy wouldn't be clearly defined, instead of making some kind of loose sack-like thing around his crotch.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | April 25, 2023 5:56 AM |
18th century clothes are different from ours. Hand-sewn clothing was more fragile than ours.
They used sashes and shawls instead of belts and buttons.
by Anonymous | reply 280 | April 25, 2023 6:26 AM |
I don't know. Alexander Hamilton looks fine. Maybe there's a class difference in tailoring and the quality of the materials they could afford.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | April 25, 2023 6:31 AM |
Bronze statue of an aristocratic boy - Metropolitan Museum of Art
by Anonymous | reply 282 | April 25, 2023 7:07 PM |
Pendant with the Name of King Osorkon II - Louvre
by Anonymous | reply 284 | April 25, 2023 9:54 PM |
Car of History by Carlo Franzoni
National Statuary Hall of U.S. Capitol
by Anonymous | reply 288 | May 14, 2023 1:45 AM |
That's wonderful, R289.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | May 16, 2023 4:03 PM |
Thanks, R290. Not a classically handsome guy but sexy in his own rugged way. Similar busts in museums all over the world.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | May 16, 2023 4:06 PM |
Blackfeet 'Beaverhead' Medicine Man by Helen Granger Young, a porcelain sculpture created in 1969
I mention this sculpture because of the controversy it has created where I live. It has been in the office of the premier of Manitoba for decades. It has been recently criticised by Gerald McMaster, a professor at the Ontario College of Art and Design, as an example of cultural appropriation. The sculptor was not native and she came up with the design of the piece by doing research and studying photographs in national and provincial archives and galleries and the Smithsonian Institution. Now the piece will be removed from public display.
I agree that it is a bit concerning that a sculpture of a native subject is not done by a native artist but, as far as I know, there is nothing offensive about the way the medicine man is depicted. I don't think it's necessary to remove it from public display. I think the high bar of political correctness that public art is subjected to these days is getting really tiresome. It seems that you have to cater to the most sensitive person in your community. Unfortunately, it's easier to remove the work of art than try to defend yourself against accusations of racism.
by Anonymous | reply 292 | May 17, 2023 12:38 AM |
The details of the controversy. To me it's a tempest in a teapot.
by Anonymous | reply 293 | May 17, 2023 12:40 AM |
Ancient Greek grave stele with a family group - The Met
by Anonymous | reply 294 | May 23, 2023 1:56 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 297 | May 26, 2023 1:32 AM |
That is inspiring, R296. I guess you'd have to put a sheet over it when your parents come over.
by Anonymous | reply 298 | May 26, 2023 1:44 AM |
R296, I guess that's "Penis Wall" by Jamie McCartney, which sells for £7,950.
by Anonymous | reply 299 | May 26, 2023 2:08 AM |
The replacement statue is a big improvement but still a little manic and scary. At least it's recognisable as Lucy.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | May 26, 2023 2:38 AM |