Are gay men allowed to be masculine?

Grow up

What a stupid thread. Gay men are allowed to express themselves in any way they want. Gay men are attracted to all kinds of gay men.

No one is stopping you from being masculine. Masculine gay men are less likely to get bashed or bullied because they can "pass" as straight. It's "gay-acting" gays who have it the hardest

r2 Is it? regularly, such men are attacked even here... the mateo thread for example.

That wasn't your question. I don't read Klan Grannie threads or mateo threads.

What about gay men who ARE masculine, just the way they were brought up.

You need to be the authentic you. Figure it out.

I find today's generation of Gay men to more and more feminine which is a turn off for me.

Everyone seems to have a lisp and talk like they are a contestant on Ru Paul's drag race.

Perhaps it's more a sense of freedom of expression than before, but not in a good way.

[quote] Are gay men allowed to be masculine?

Who could stop us?

Again, a stupid thread.

Colt Studios have been presenting uber-masculine men since 1967.

Where have you been?

Blast it, Testosterone itself is dying! That is why Doug Flutie and his pals are pounding down supplements from concentrated dried bull scrotum on TV! She’ll like it too? That’s Doug if he misses a protein shake!

r9, OP is a screaming KAWEEEEEEEN who THINKS HE IS MASC and is surprised that even gay fem bottoms don't want him to fuck them, let alone str8 acting gays.

Low-key? Masc = Cis = disgusting. ALL TEA, hunty!

Dumb ass thread. Low IQ? Gaycel?

I'm not butch but I'm not femme either. I would say I'm at the level of Chris Pine on the homo spectrum.

Of course not, Mary OP. On Wed. Pres. Biden will be signing the unanimously passed No Masc Fags Act in the Rose Garden at the White House.

Great question. I think gay men are more into stereotypes than nongay men. My straight mske friends are much more open-minded and rely less on stereotypes to make conclusions about others.

It's really hard to be a masculine gay man, y'all!

r16 the sociopolitical damage seems to be a large part, too. The desire to conform with their peers in other groups that won't accept them if they're masc or refuse to admit internalized homophobia and apologize for their masculinity.

We already have several, extremely, hostile replies and several denials as well saying it's idiotic to even question...

These two offended groups should likely discuss the issue. One seems to believe even asking the question is a grave offense deserving of a homophobic and androphobic responses while other doesn't seem to believe the former exists.

“Yes.” -Alexander the Great, The Sacred Band of Thebes, Samurai, etc etc

Gender studies research project?

Or Carrie Bradshaw at her Apple laptop pondering the great questions? "Is there life after a fart?"

I've seen a worrying trend in today's gaylings where their role models are women.

Really?

What fags.

R21, how is that new? One of the hallmarks of classic gay male culture is identification with and exaltation of strong or melodramatic women, instead of strong males. The more effeminate a man is, the more he tends to identify with women. That’s not a judgment conclusion; it’s an observation

I've seen young gay masculine many(rare these days) also identify with females as role models rather than males.

There are always exceptions to a general rule, but that’s still the exception. Naturally, most men identify much more with men than women. That’s not necessarily bias or animus.

If you get among the in gay crowds in any major metro area they all try to get you to conform to group think and assimilate to their sissy ways. They try to push everyone to be Yassss Kweens who live for random cock, drag shows and circuit parties, affect a lispy vocal fry, and dress like two-bit junkies with lip gloss on.

There is an attitude of “your gay, you’re basically a girl, duh!”

There is pressure to femme out just the same as straight guys try to push each other’s masculinity higher. Androgyny is not acceptable. It holds us back and makes us a joke.

Women and progressives are fighting to be CEOs and for us to be their flamboyant accessory friends. We’ll be allowed to have middle class jobs at the most, but we’re not allowed to be a CEO, cause you know people can’t be managed by a fag.

[quote]If you get among the in gay crowds in any major metro area....

hmmmm, what to do, what to do. Can there be any solution to this "need," any solution at all?

Come on, you know that masculine man is hundred times more desirable in gay world than effeminate one.

The Yassss Kweens are always trying to assimilate more into their fold

I always laugh at these troll threads where these so-called masc men are so very threatened by these extremely femme gays, like they can slice these poor, innocent, and defenseless masc guys into a million bits with their razor sharp feather boas and stiletto heels.

It's such a conservative move to paint a minority as such a great threat to the superior, alpha elite. Just look at these right wing assholes rather going after drag queen events to harm children than go after the actual child predators: Priests. Always picking on minorities to make them feel strong and so much bigger.

R30 femme kweens are the majority in mainstream gay culture, so there is large social pressure to assimilate to group think. They like a masc gay until they either fuck him, aren’t attracted to him, or figure out he won’t fuck them, at which point he must be femme’d. Yasssss!

r31, group think is another right wing buzzword. Like, really.

That is why the whole anti gay / LGBT trolling is such bullshit in the first place. These right wing idiots approach any gay / LGBT issue from their conservative hive mind where anything liberal is completely wrong.

LGBT is the very definition of a diverse group and yet these conservative idiots shriek about group think and how nobody can be himself in such a diverse group, even when they limit the LGBT Community to the Gay Community which has gym bunnies, twinks, bears, Leather daddies, drag queens, regular guys, circuit queens, etc.

That’s exactly why masculine bi/gay dudes tend to opt out of gay culture and identity

R32 none of those types of gay men are known for being particularly masculine.

[quote] That’s exactly why masculine bi/gay dudes tend to opt out of gay culture and identity

And never shut up about it, apparently. Like, is that your idea of masculinity? "Those mean femme gays! They are so MEAN to me!"

Not necessarily mean but annoying and cliquey.

r36 cliquey? Those mean fags don't let your masculine ass in their group? That's your issue? LOL

Well it's obvious some femme QUEEN is feeling personally attacked

Datalounge really is obsessed with this topic. It seems to crop up every other week.

There aren't enough Sure, Jans or Jessica Walters eye roll gifs in the world for you, OP and r6.

Gym bunnies aren’t masculine. Gym bros are.

I don't know, r39, but I have the oddest feeling all these threads are started by Josh Hawley.

So many feminine abuser gaslighting techniques to approach any issue with a masculine guy and shutdown the conversation as “if you care so much about it you’re not much of a man, hahahaha”

They learn it from their histrionic mommies who they long to be, so they can fuck their daddies, since they have reverse gender Oedipus complexes. Hahahahaha

[quote] Well it's obvious some femme QUEEN is feeling personally attacked

You are absolutely correct. *looking at OP and r41, r34, r33, etc*

Can I get a YASSSSS KWEEN and two snaps?!?

[quote] So many feminine abuser

So, your idea of a masculine guy is being a weak victim of some femine guy? You should write to your government representative to stop making laws about protecting children against Drag Queens and start pushing for laws protecting poor masc guys from pushy feminine guys.

R46 mental abuse is a thing. You type like you’re well-skilled in the tactics.

This article could apply to psychotic femme bottoms too. If you’ve ever dated one you know.

[quote] mental abuse is a thing.

Pointing out that you are an idiot and not a single argument you have presented is valid is not mental abuse. It is you losing the discussion and then whining "it's not fair!" like some Kari Lake Karen. Not very masculine, is it?

Where have all the mascs gone? Nowhere to be found, including this thread.

R49 you think you’re winning the argument LOL

Don’t you have a Rupaul season to binge and a shitty hole to douche?

r51, I sure am, because I don't have to resort to "shitty hole to douche" type of insults.

R52 must be true then

R52 in your own mind.

Troll or idiot or both?

Could you be more of a screeching queeny stereotype R44? You are the definition of tiresome and unfuckable.

No, not anymore. We're all supposed to be "Yasss Kweens" so we can drink cosmos or mimosas with our best girlfriends and dish how terrible men are. Isn't the only original programming on LOGO-TV that mincing minstrel show known as "RuPaul's Drag Race"?

Yep, we're off prime time.

R58 ok

Yes, OP, they are.

Tops and bottoms oh my 🙄

There's nothing you can be that won't bother somebody. Don't worry about that.

I prefer someone who is not at all effeminate but not masculine either.

R41- and anyone who says HE'S A HOTTIE isn't masculine either

one must say - He's HOT

Some of the responses on this thread...good grief. If you happen to be gay and effeminate, that's perfectly fine. But the moment you start criticizing gay men who aren't effeminate, you become just as bad as the straight people who think we're all closeted aspiring drag queens.

Believe it or not, and it sounds like some of you don't, gay men can be perfectly openly out of the closet and masc at the same time. That just happens to be our personalities for the most part. Just like some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.

It's annoying as shit when you have straight people constantly questioning if you're gay, and fem gay's constantly accusing you to still be in the closet or self loathing. We're neither. Get the fuck over it.

R65- Believe a lot of those bitchy queens are HOT IN THE PANTS for you

[quote]these extremely femme gays, like they can slice these poor, innocent, and defenseless masc guys into a million bits with their razor sharp feather boas and stiletto heels.

so, effeminate gay men are representative of this?

So, why is it that you embrace rightwing stereotypes about both masculine and effeminate gay men that seemingly mirror antiquated perceptions about men and women? What exactly are you trying to communicate?

To...each...his...own.

Which is really how most of us live r68. There may be enclaves in West Hollywood and Manhattan where that is not allowed, but seriously, then you need to ask yourself why you need to win the approval of a bunch of Yasss Kweens. Why are you doing that if you hate them? What exactly are you doing, and whose fault is it?

I have *no* idea what you're talking about, r69. As I posted...to each his own.

And I agreed with you r70. The "you" was general, not you, specifically. Sorry, thought that was clear.

The great irony that gay men no longer have to hide in the closet, but the old stereotype is roaring back into the public consciousness with the YASS KWEENS dominating gay culture.

We thought society would stigmatise and label us less, that they would see we were just ordinary guys just like them, but these femmes have set us back decades. We're now effeminate clowns lisping our way to the next drag show every other night.

Nobody's told me I couldnt be. So I just did. I dont get what all the fuss is about

R42 if Josh Hawley really is posting here I wants nudes. He's such a pretty lil queen

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I just do it on my own time.

R74- This scene is not funny AT ALL.