Why the hell are so many young Americans so pro-communism?
I understand that America has problems, but the solution is to put enough controls in place so that the wealthy can’t trample the poor. Raw capitalism is a horror show, and we need strong labor laws, employee protections, and so on, but do young Americans really want authoritarianism and food shortages?
I’m not talking socialism here. I completed the MBA program last year and all these 20 something students were talking about communism and asking if it’s a good idea for America. And of course they were all born after the Cold War ended.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 5, 2023 11:59 PM
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You fascinate me, OP. Where are these youngsters even learning about communism? Last I looked you could barely study Keynesianism at a decent university, let alone Stalinism. And why in God's name would a Gen Z interested in communism be taking an MBA, home of the entrenched Reaganite?
Stop trolling and get a life.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 5, 2023 5:34 AM
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What school, pray tell, was this at?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 5, 2023 5:36 AM
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We're gonna need to know the school you're referring to.
MBA students are not pro-communism.
Gender studies majors? Sure.
But not MBA.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 5, 2023 5:45 AM
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Obviously you cocksuckers haven’t taken the MBA program in California with loads of students from China. Clearly they influence the others.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 5, 2023 6:13 AM
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And there it is.
OP melts down and calls us "cocksuckers" when we ask for the name of the school.
OP, you're clearly not gay, according to your history.
Why are you here on DL?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 5, 2023 6:17 AM
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R2 & R3 - I'm not OP but I know which school this is.
It's Figment-Of-OP's-Troll-Imagination University.
None of this ever happened.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 5, 2023 6:21 AM
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R4, After its founding in 1919, the Socialist Party of America quickly became the largest leftist political organization in the US. Topping out at 85,000 registered members in 1942. Communism is not a new idea in the US, and Generation Z certainly didn’t invent it.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 5, 2023 6:22 AM
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SJSU. And clearly you all haven’t been around millennial Bernie Bros. Lol. And yes I’m gay. Good lord.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 5, 2023 6:22 AM
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"Millennial Bernie Bros" are in their mid-30's.
But sure, let's play. So, if I have your story straight, the MBA program at SJSU, despite all the demographic info about the program saying that nearly half the students are women from the United States between the ages of 24 and 30, is populated by international Chinese communist students and American men in their mid- to late-30's.
The latter were ambitious and conservative enough upon admission to pursue an MBA program, but were so soft-headed and naive that even those solidly approaching middle age were first converted to communism by the Chinese students and then retroactively supported a socialist presidential candidate who last ran in 2016, at least 5 years before most of them would have entered the program?
Try harder.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 5, 2023 6:39 AM
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Communists are idiots who enjoy getting raped repeatedly and told it's a good thing.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 5, 2023 9:40 AM
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We prefer to be called " progressives."
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 5, 2023 10:19 AM
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OP is homophobic as shit in the "die on this hill" thread, plenty of comments about Democrats being "hard left" and "Marxist" on political threads, too.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 5, 2023 10:39 AM
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most young people are politically apathetic
some in college cling to ideologists (like Marx or Rand) b/c they think there's an easy solution to complex problems, and they think they're the first to discover it
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 5, 2023 10:46 AM
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"Why the hell are so many young Americans so pro-communism?"
Why are straight you so stupid?
We all have questions.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 5, 2023 11:21 AM
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Op, young Americans are looking around them at the dumpster fire unfettered capitalism is and wondering if there's a better way to maximize social welfare for everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 5, 2023 11:45 AM
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Looking at the rampant tuition and healthcare debt, the wave of racist police killings, the non-existent workers' rights and the frankly underwhelming human development index ranking, I find myself wondering why more young Americans aren't communist.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 5, 2023 11:46 AM
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[quote]I find myself wondering why more young Americans aren't communist
b/c it worked so well in Russia and Cuba
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 5, 2023 11:52 AM
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Hey, don't knock Cuba R18. Their population is vastly more literate than Americans are!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | February 5, 2023 11:57 AM
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R19, how many Cubans have you met in real life?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 20 | February 5, 2023 12:25 PM
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“The” MBA program? Just the one, dear?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 5, 2023 12:27 PM
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Socialism and comunism are not the same.
It's obvious that socialism is interesting for some youngsters. Bernie Sanders had an influence in that and the fact that a lot of european countries has a social-democrat government.
Comunism? Not so much
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 5, 2023 12:29 PM
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OP's greatest hits:
[quote]White people are better at running countries than anyone else.
[quote]When people fail in life and feel bad about their situation, they use whatever minority status they have to lash out. If they’re black, their failures are white people’s fault.
[quote]When trans women get murdered it’s usually their own fault. 99% of the time they’re hookers. The other 1 percent they’re doing something shady when killed: like burglarizing a house or buying drugs.
[quote]There is no such thing as a monogamous gay couple.
[quote]Trust me, if you were born in Africa, you’d be hanging off the side of a fishing boat trying to get to Spain. Hell Africans are even moving to Poland for a better life now. Even a poorer white country is better than one of your own.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 5, 2023 12:36 PM
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They think it's an ideal utopia but it never has been and every country that has tried it has been left relatively poor. Their best minds escape and the people who who are connected to the government become the elite.
It's authoritarianism and there's a reason the US fight so hard to keep it from expanding in the past, when a good portion of the world was under it's influence.
True Marxist communism is supposed to thrive in certain countries that are socially cohesive. Marx wanted it for Germany and never would have recommended it for Russia.
The idea sounds beautiful and egalitarianism on paper but it's not reality. I think people are longing to feel a connection to a better world.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 5, 2023 12:45 PM
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methinks OP could be troll
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 5, 2023 12:45 PM
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r25 could read r23 and KNOW OP is a troll.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 5, 2023 1:04 PM
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R20 I've spent several weeks there, I'll bet you haven't.
To all Americans in the thread please can you ask your political representatives to lift the psychotic blockade you guys have imposed on Cuba for decades. If its system really is unworkable and unable to survive contact with reality, then it ought to collapse soon anyway, so the blockade would seem to be cruel and unnecessary.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 5, 2023 1:18 PM
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Anyone who stalks a poster’s history, per r13, to attack & discredit said poster has zero credibility.
This thread is about this thread. If you lack the maturity to respond to comments posted on a single thread, then you deserve to be ignored. Your argument has no merit.
It’s like calling everyone a nazi. Once you bring Hitler into an argument, you automatically have lost the argument.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 28 | February 5, 2023 1:57 PM
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[quote]a good portion of the world was under it's influence.
Oh, dear!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 5, 2023 2:27 PM
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R23 You forgot my best greatest hit from that thread:
[quote]The saddest losers on DL are the ones who say “[R22] is [R17]” and “[R42] posted ‘blah blah blah’ on that other thread.” Like it’s some huge victory to expose what some anonymous person posted, and as if everyone on here hasn’t posted opinions that piss off other people. Good lord, find a better way to spend your time on earth: find a hobby or get laid or something.
Funny how you left THAT one out.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 5, 2023 5:30 PM
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The current wave of delicate trolls like OP and r28 who are trying to make people think that seeing what someone has written in other threads is "stalking," actual literal stalking, are a scourge on the site.
I didn't make an argument, r28, but I will now, since you fucking asked for one: OP is a troll with sock puppets who just posts on DL to be a little shit, because he has nothing else to do. He never provides anything even close to an actual argument, he just makes up stories and then whines a lot when he's not believed.
His first comment on here was calling everyone a "cocksucker" as an insult. He constantly brings up trans in every thread that has nothing to do with trans. He randomly brings up frequent DL topics like Golden Girls or Designing Women and posts that they suck, just because he's lonely and wants attention. He calls all liberals and Democrats "commies" and "Trotskyites" and repeats stupid Fox News points, and when people point out that he's a troll, he whines that it's "stalking" to look up his other posts.
Why? Because he's a goddamn pussy-ass bitch, that's why. He's a big baby who doesn't know how to troll and cries big hot tittybaby tears every time someone figures him out, which is pretty much every time he types something.
If you and OP (who I am politely pretending are two different people) are so upset about it, then I suggest you go, hat in hand, to Mediapolis and tell them that you want the ignore feature removed because you're a couple of goddamn fucking wimps.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 5, 2023 10:35 PM
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R31 You really are a fucking asshole. Your argument is “anyone who disagrees with me or says things I don’t like is a troll.” God forbid anyone on DL says anything or brings up any topics that don’t meet your personal approval.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 5, 2023 10:43 PM
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Ignore him, r32. He’s embarrassed that he got called out for being weak. Maybe he’ll feel better after a nap.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 5, 2023 10:50 PM
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R32, if you are concerned about questioning masculinity, there is a very thin line separating “cocksucker” and “pussy-ass bitch.”
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 5, 2023 11:26 PM
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[quote] Socialism and comunism are not the same.
Oh, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 5, 2023 11:54 PM
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[quote]It’s like calling everyone a nazi. Once you bring Hitler into an argument, you automatically have lost the argument.
Well, R28, you brought Hitler into the argument, so you have automatically lost.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 5, 2023 11:59 PM
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