Canadians appalled by video of Vancouver police handcuffing child with autism

Boy tried to kill His mother ! Fuck that monster

What happens to kids with autism, once they turn 18?

A lot of them seem to have behavioral problems, and it sort of worries me that once they become adults, they'll lose access to mental health services and just go off the deep end.

With autism increasing in children, governments are going to have a big problem on their hands, as these kids become adults.

Yes r2 it’s a huge crisis

Did he also have celiac disease, asthma and hypoglycemia?

Where did you get that from, R1?

A statement from B.C. Children's Hospital said "providing an inclusive and culturally safe health-care environment for patients and their families is a top priority.'

What does that mean in plain English?

What does "culturally safe" mean in this context?

R6 it doesn’t mean anything , but it stops some woke freak from lodging a complaint I guess

It looks like whatever the cops did worked. The kid got his shit together.

I don’t like the way cops treat people with disabilities but it appears that the child was causing more than just a disturbance, he attacked his mother and drew blood and could not be calmed down without handcuffing him to stop him from endangering others so I don’t believe people should be acting like it was overly aggressive by the police. What do people want; to have the cop tase him or shoot him in lieu of handcuffing?

People are no longer able to use common sense and immediately jump on the latest outrage bandwagon.

At some point the cop has to protect others, himself and the child who is out of control.

R8 Yeah! He’ll think harder next time before he decides to play pretend!

Not only that R9, but if the cops DIDN'T do something, they'd be criticized even more.

Especially if he actually ended up hurting someone.

I hate to side with the cops, but I don't believe having special needs is a golden ticket to be as violent as you want to be. Mom may be used to ass-whippings from her kid, but the rest of us don't love him. If he can't control himself in public, bind him up or keep him home.

[quote]an Indigenous boy

If he was so smart, why didn’t he listen to his mother?

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Autism is the devil

Mom starting recording after the incident. Her video doesn’t reflect what her son did. I see nothing wrong with what the police did. What did the mother expect them to do?

Let him walk all over them, like I do!

How did the action move from a train station to a hospital? I'm confused.

same shit happens in the states.

autism or no.

people that complain of mental health crises, at the same time, don't want anyone to be able to restrain patients in any shape or form.

or consider the politics of homeless people in the bigger cities, where they complain about the consequences of too many homeless people in one location but then cry whenever the city does something beneficial... so, we largely get stuck with migrating camps that are out of sight, out of mind... although, homelessness is big money for most cities, in turn, so is mental health and disability.

r2 the common is if they're not profound enough to garner disabilities right away, then parents often force them to go through the homeless process - this often means they're on the sidelines but unable to interact, lest they be removed from many transitional housing... once they qualify for disability, which typically they'll have at least seven years on, they'll qualify for more programs specified for those with autism. But unlike say with down syndrome, autism hasn't had as much of a sociocultural revolution towards promoting independence or at least independent living, and parents/guardians remain the largest obstacle with or without help.

^ plus the pop culture of autism with the sheer number of people that claim to be autistic... tends to have a negative perception of autism services and often protest against them. They're particularly offended by any reference to severe autism and believe severity is just negative propaganda.

political autistics (also, see the feminist protest to get females priority over males. re: every tumlrina wanting to be temple grandin, as well as the anti-trans brigade and their hatred of autistics and protest of public programs for autism) tend to protest organizations and services like:

R20 makes a really good point.

Another thing that isn't talked about enough is that parents of violent children often end up with a kind of Stockholm Syndrome to their kids' conditions. Humane and therapeutic institutionalization needs to be funded, for that reason. Most parents just are not equipped psychologically or materially to deal with these kinds of disabilities, and it's not realistic to expect them to, especially if they have other children.

r22 while that is a possibility with some children, and parents can still abandon their minors to the state... I was referring more to the borderline munchausen types that tend to shelter and hobble their children with disabilities rather than allowing them to have the proper education and training to cope with the rest of the world, or yes, finding a more permanent solution outside of the home; whether day camps, independent living or group homes. The kind of mental health problems we find with parents/guardians of children with severe disabilities tends to differ than that of most caretakers in that they develop an identity based on their children's disabilities and often a co-dependency. They also tend to be more effected by "empty nest" depression. . . so, they tend to impede on services that promote a path to independence.

^ well, independence or separation.

R23- Yes, I apologize for not making that clear. I was trying to contrast two separate extremes.

The cop speaking to the mother actually seemed fairly gentle. He wasn't yelling and screaming at the kid and was calm with the mother. The other cop was monitoring the kid's heartrate. When they walk the kid back to his room, he rolls his eyes and turns his head when the mom demands the police leave.

I criticize cops all the time, but I can't see anything wrong with what they did in this situation. It's also mentioned in the video that the kid has been violent in the past.

I understand this must be hard on the mother of course.

R18, I think what happened is the kid got violent in the train station and the cops were called. The police then accompanied the mother and son to the hospital and when he began to act up because he wasn't in his preferred waiting room they handcuffed him.

I feel for the mom, but would she like to be assaulted again? She may not care but no one else is cool with her kid becoming violent.

Oops, R28 is from R26, not R27.

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A large part of the problem is how many of these sensitive justice warriors (the public) have such a low opinion of those with disability.

It's like the Ben Dreyfus thread.. the sheer amount of people angry that he wasn't a stereotypical trope.. saintly and humbled by his disability.

R7, the right-wingers who complain about "woke" things are the freaks

R31 is a right-winger who thinks woke people are the problem....when the real problem is wingnuts like him

Red states have the most crime

R9 is probably outraged by M&Ms and Mr. Potato Head...Right-wingers accuse others of being easily outraged but everything offends

These psycho parents are making their kids autistic by feeding them a diet of Coke & Cheetos, then flipping out at every sniffle and by the time these brats are 4yo they’ve had been to the ER 27 times and had 13 rounds of antibiotics. Neurotransmitters are created in the gut and when you kill all the good bacteria with hardcore, constant antibiotics the brain suffers. It’s why these PrEP Kweens are HIV negative but have major anxiety, depression, and other mood disorders from their constant rounds of antibiotics.

R19, R20, R21, R23, R24 can't find the shift key on their keyboard.

[quote]What happens to kids with autism, once they turn 18?

The high-functioning, responsible ones with ASD forge their own trails. Those with severe impairments may still have access to social services as adults. But it's easy to fall through the cracks without a caregiver handling the bureaucratic side of things.

Beleaguered parents might have to weigh their options years before the kid turns 18. Because some children who are violent become bigger and stronger than their mothers as early as puberty. You can try to medicate them into being more docile if moving them into a group home or facility isn't an option, but not all families are comfortable with that.

That kid needs to be locked away.

[quote] These psycho parents are making their kids autistic by feeding them a diet of Coke & Cheetos, then flipping out at every sniffle and by the time these brats are 4yo they’ve had been to the ER 27 times and had 13 rounds of antibiotics. Neurotransmitters are created in the gut and when you kill all the good bacteria with hardcore, constant antibiotics the brain suffers. It’s why these PrEP Kweens are HIV negative but have major anxiety, depression, and other mood disorders from their constant rounds of antibiotics.

Take your meds, sweetheart.

R39 Take your PrEP, sweetheart.

R39 WW yourself much?

R20 rocks ! Exactly

r33 No, I'm a both sides troll. So, both the left and the right hate me equally. But thanks for playing.

r36 ah, so as an autistic yourself, how do you feel about the topic?

Having had experience with autism in the family it’s really hard on the family, the parents feel guilty for not having a normal kid and not being able to fix them and that guilt causes them to accept behaviors that no sane parent would deal with like tantrums, violent outbursts and destructive behavior. Parents just learn to ignore it but the rest of the world can’t and it’s really sad.

☝🏼 autism at any level is so tragic for families and communities

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