Is it more painful for a parent to have a child who is gay or a child who is transgender?

OP in the *Utah finally gets something right* thread:

[quote]Stop doing this gruesome shit to underage kids. And gays, for the love of God we need to disassociate ourselves from this.

I’m a parent of young kids. I’d not bat an eyelid at either. Hopefully they know that given they have two mums & we are raising them surrounded by the queer community in all its guises. However, my heart would break a little for them if they were transgender. Not because it’s a problem, as a parent I don’t own my child, their body nor their thoughts & feelings. They would still be them, just a different gender. But it would be a long & difficult road. Both from a medical perspective, a mental health perspective & in terms of how society would view them/fitting in at school, college, work etc. Plus relationships would probably be harder to find too.

Nowadays obviously transgender. The amount of political persecution in red states is insane.

It was painful for Jeanette Bloshinsky to learn her son Jaron was gay, so she manipulated him to become a girl. Today her son is star of TV series "I Am Jazz," tonight at 10:00 ET on TLC. This woman should be in jail for child abuse.

More painful? Well given that I lost my virginity years ago, and my hymen was duly broken, I doubt my son would hurt me much. His pecker is kind of small too.

Not OP here, but I agree with his stance on Utah.

R1 That's not the burn you think it is.

This poor young person was literally mutilated by having skin shaved off her arm and then rolled up into a tube and sewn onto her crotch. It's wasn't healing so the doctors had to remove skin from her cheek to create a new urethra because the arm skin tube neo-penis was trying to close.

It's outrageous what the trans cult convinced this smart young person to do to their body.

All this was because this young transman wanted to know what it's like to pee standing up.

R3 is correct. The targeting of Trans teens by insane, hateful TERFs is painful for the children and for their parents as well. Having a gay son or daughter is not a big deal anymore (except to different kinds of insane, hateful people).

Making Trans children's lives unbearable, abusing them and defending your cruelty on the grounds that you're doing it for the children themselves is some seriously sick shit. Isn't that what abusers often say? "I'm doing this for your own good" and "I'm doing this because I care about you."

Fucking sick TERFS.

Two good friends each have trans kids. Each of them fine with it but concerned about impact of hormones on heakth. Neith kid considering surgery yet, but they’re very concerned about the health impact of that.

So that’s the difference—trans has much more troubling health issues for parents.

Sometimes your children don’t get the privilege to live old enough to face those issues.

R8 What's interesting about that is that the president of the governing body that advises doctors on puberty blockers & cross-sex hormones, Dr. Marci Bowers, has stated that these blockers will prevent the patients on these drugs from ever having a normal sexual life in adulthood. She uses terminology like "Tanner stage 2". What she's referring to are age groups. I think tanner stage 2 is around 9 to 12.

Far worse than either: a pint-sized harlot with a frozen smile that chills the heart and vacant, soulless eyes that open the door to the abyss.

I suspect that a lot of people who have a "transgender child" just didn't want a gay one.

Depends on the parent. If they’re narcissistic, they’ll be overjoyed and will tell everyone. Most parents don’t want to see their child mutilating themselves.

People don’t care about someone being gay. Homosexuality is mainstream. Unfortunately there is starting to be a backlash thanks to “gay” organizations pushing trans ideology.

I have to admit I find it really bizarre and shocking how many gays have fallen hook line and sinker for the idea that gay and trans are somehow the same. Most of the gays I know like this are younger, save for the occasional over the hill SJW, but they get really passionate about trans rights and “protect trans kids,“ as if this has anything at all to do with gays. If anything, you think that gays would be furious about the “trans kids” thing because by transing your kid, you’re literally turning them into something they aren’t, which is exactly what gays fought against. It’s really weird but whatever it is what it is. I hate the 21st century.

R12 is correct.

Mrs Patsy needs to go to bed — she’s DRUNK.

[quote] Fucking sick TERFS.

Neo-progressivism is basically a religion rather than a political or social stance. Statements like the above make that very clear.

Like a religion, they convince themselves that something that isn’t objectively the case is in fact THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH, and then other/demonize anyone who questions the tenets of their faith.

Trumpism is the same of course. On the crazed left, it’s really just a mirror image of the crazed right.

Gay men are not as mainstream and accepted as some would like to think.

[quote]People don’t care about someone being gay.

Yes they do. We don't all live in a bubble filled with gay men and fag hags in a metropolitan area.

Here’s an anecdote. A friend of my mother’s moved into a new subdivision in Knoxville, Tennessee. The community was having a get to know you neighbors event where people up and down the street had open houses at the same time so neighbors could stop by for a few minutes and meet each other. Some of the neighbors stopped mother’s friend (not the most progressive person), pointed at a house and said “don’t go to that house, a gay couple lives there”. Mom’s friend went anyway and said the guys had a nice spread of appetizers (of course they would) but few guests would drop by compared to all the other houses. This story just mad me feel sad and depressed at how rotten “normal” people are. It’s better than it used to be without a doubt, but we’re hated by lots and lots of good Christian folks.

What an odd and shitty question, OP.

I am gay, as is one of my children. I have no problem with this. It would be MUCH harder to have a transgender child, because the transgender movement is regressive, homoohobic, and misogynistic.

OP is a troll. A cunt. A lying asshole.

I have to question where all these “trans kids“ really came from. This was never a thing until a few years ago, and you cannot deny that! I’ve heard many people over the years say “I knew my son was gay when he was five“ or something like that. I have NEVER heard a single person say “I knew my son was trans when he was only three.” What this all really means is that these “trans kids“ are really gay kids who are being abused by their sick parents.

Who cares. Stop with these oppression Olympics threads.

The World Is Sick and Getting Sicker

R15, if science were unbiased/accurate, there would be every reason to support every aspect of trans rights. Gay/lesbian rights do not revolve around medical treatment, so the fundamental difference is a medical trust issue, not a civil rights issue.

The fact that it seems like most gender education materials don’t explain that it’s up to as an individual to identify based on your body or based on stereotypes but suggest that identifying based on stereotypes is the “right way” actually does show signs of industry bias, because all things being equal there’s no reason why a young person couldn’t choose to identify as male or female based on his/her body, regardless of stereotypes and roles. Which doesn’t mean that people can’t have gender dysphoria; but why does everyone have to see gender that way?

If you don’t point out that a person is actually individually allowed to identify as male or female based on their physical form and regardless of roles, you could be accused of biasing the system in the direction of medical treatment. And since the medical treatment is under-researched, new, and to some extent with unknown risk, it places a medical burden on people who receive treatment. Many of them are not well off and would have a hard time ever proving in the future that they were harmed.

And yes, I know the treatments can be lifesaving. I’m not saying people shouldn’t have them, just that they shouldn’t be presented in schools with what amounts to an anti-body bias.

According to this 2011 article Transgender may be a form of Eugenics.