How to Seduce a Straight Guy: 10 Tips to Get Him Into Your Bed!

I hate stupid articles like this because it confirms two awful stereotypes that are detrimental to gay people: 1) that gay people think everyone is gay; 2) that we're constantly cruising and trying to convert "straight" guys - it justifies so-called "gay panic" in their minds.

I agree with R1.

Go after people who will potentially be interested in you. Understand that just because you're gay and you think of yourself as unattractive, it doesn't mean all gay men are going to be the same as you.

If you are a guy and you go to bed with a guy by definition he is not straight. I am a gay man. I am never going to bed with a woman. I will fly like a bird first.

This is why they hate us.

R1, I was just about to post how pathetic articles like this are.

I tried all these techniques and got a straight guy from the local dive bar to come home with me. Unfortunately he bludgeoned me to death in the morning and stole my car.

This will end in tears - or bruises - or worse.

Or, open your phone, load grindr and get it.

[quote]I’m going to cut through all of the BS and get right to it.

Best laugh line of the whole article.

Easy, pay his rent.

[quote]If you are a guy and you go to bed with a guy by definition he is not straight. I am a gay man. I am never going to bed with a woman. I will fly like a bird first.

That's false r3. Gay men have been having sex with women for millennia. I didn't make them straight, or even bi. I think it is very possible for a straight man to have sex with another guy. What you desire is not the only thing that gets your dick hard. That's why victims of sexual abuse feel guilty a lot of times, because what was done to them actually felt good. But I doubt some 10 year old kid was jacking off to priests before he met the one who sucked him off.

Sex feels good, period. And a gay man can make a straight man's cock feel good in ways he's never experienced before. It doesn't make the guy bi or gay. It makes him someone who enjoys sexual pleasure. You can blindfold a dude and make him cum without him ever seeing who is working on his dick. Without him ever knowing. One's sexuality is not directly tied to what one can enjoy sexually.

Chasing after someone who you know doesn't want you is still pathetic, R10.

[quote]I hate stupid articles like this because it confirms two awful stereotypes that are detrimental to gay people: 1) that gay people think everyone is gay; 2) that we're constantly cruising and trying to convert "straight" guys - it justifies so-called "gay panic" in their minds.

Gay men are men just like any other. And men like to hunt. And part of the excitement of hunting is the chase and not just taking the easy thing laying dead and available in front of you. Going after Straight guys is a fun hunt. I have done it before and it's a very long, but satisfying game. Of course I was fucking around with gay men just like me all the while. But that is a different kind of satisfaction.

[quote]Chasing after someone who you know doesn't want you is still pathetic, [R10].

Well that's where you're wrong. They think they don't want you, until they do. That is the rush. Straight men do the same thing all the time with women. People do it to each other all the time when it comes to sex. It's not pathetic. It's a game.

Garbage article. Garbage M.O. Is OP a garbage person who fetishes this one hates himself?

It is pathetic. Spank bank bullshit.

I don’t understand some gay men’s obsession with bedding straight guys.

I have a friend who loves and recounts at nauseum what he does to convince gays guys to fuck him. I don’t get the thrill

[quote]Garbage article. Garbage M.O. Is OP a garbage person who fetishes this one hates himself?

A gay guy who ONLY goes after straight guys is pathetic and there might be some self hate there. But anyone can attest to the occasional fun one can have seducing someone into doing something they never thought they would do or wanted to do. It can be really hot.

r16 it's the thrill of the hunt. Easy enough to understand. It's not about love, or anything meaningful. It's just about sex and getting it.

Anyway, I haven't read the article. But here is an adult tip for those with very loose morals if you are interested in this kind of thing. This will definitely make the prudes and the morally upright's head spin. But here goes.

Drugs seem to be always a part of this seduction. I lived in NYC at the time, a place where there were ton's of tourist from all around the world. Sometimes I would be at a club where there would be some hot tourist enjoying themselves. These people usually like to party and are looking for a good time while in the city. They also can't travel with any drugs either. If you subtly make it known you have something on you, by going to the bathroom, saying "I need a refresher.." they will literally ask to follow you into the stall. A lot happens when dicks are out taking a piss, sharing a stall and drugs. I'm just sayin...

Humiliating

Humiliation can be one of the hottest parts of sex. You must be young if you haven't realized this yet.

R18 Your life is quite sad

Threads on this topic are always as interesting for the anecdotes as they are for the prudes who come out to protest.

“This is pathetic. I do not approve! I don’t even care, but I absolutely don’t approve!!! No way, no how!!! I’m not titillated in the slightest!!!! God, you’re all pathetic!!!”

The protestors are always the Fraus, then the Platinum & Gold Star Gays who were so femme and nelly that no straight guy wanted to be within a mile of them.

Big difference between "prudes" and people who just don't act like desperate lowlifes.

Oh just realized it's the same sad person posting here over and over - figures.

I hope your life improves!

R25 same, bitch

It’s even better if he has kids and leaves them with the mom when he divorces her for you.

I only date str8 married men.

Actually r21, my life is very fulfilling because I openly accept and am honest with who I am and what I enjoy. I am not afraid of it. And what I mentioned is only a small part of who I am, a small part of my sex life.

I think it's more self-loathing to constantly feel the need to conform to some heteronormative ideal of sexuality to curry favor in the mainstream world. It's self loathing to deny a very real and honest male desire. And courting straight men has always and forever will be part of a gay men's sexual playlist just based strictly on a man's desire to conquer and bed someone. That is why it is called a conquest.

Yes, sex can be loving, and sweet and intimate with a partner. That is very fulfilling. Hot sex can also be degrading, humiliating and predatory - sometimes the hottest sex. We are animals. Just watch Body Heat.

Another laughing point of the whole article was the photos they used to illustrate. Clearly, this guy has not been around "straight" guys that much. There is a reason that gays are stereotyped as gym bunnies and straight guys as dad bods.

I have a married buddy who loves sending me pics of his body and his cock. He has a rather gorgeous cock and will pretty much send my anything I ask to see. He is a huge show-off and gets turned on being seen. He can't do the same with a woman, one because women don't ask for those kinds of pics and two, it feels like cheating on his wife to him. So we have a good thing going. I love knowing that it turns him on and he loves knowing he is turning someone on with his naked body. Sexuality is very complex. Much more complex than some of you are allowing it to be.

If you want to see something, just ask and I'll see if he'll send me a pic of it. No face though.

Mama’s always found that a nicely folded twenty-dollar bill does the trick.

R31 MORE!!! HARDER!!!! NO PANTS!!!!

OP is a self hating gay. And a predator..

R34 is a Dead-Clit Frau or a YASSSS KWEEN

I found the companion article "How to get beaten nearly to death by a straight guy" much more realistic.

R18 Where in the world are you? Bathroom stalls? Guess they have doors on them too!

R31, he doesn’t think he is cheating sending photos to you, but would if he sent them to a woman? Weird. He should post on dad bods on Reddit. Lots of straight men posting their dicks for gay men to ogle.

R31, let’s see his ass.

I had a funny experience that illustrates the folly of the whole straight conquest thing. As I approached college graduation, I met with my advisor to ensure that my ducks were in a row and I was good to graduate only to discover that I had not completed a freshman-level course because I'd tested out of it in high school. Long story short, he explained that was satisfactory for general matriculation unless it was in my major, so I was forced to take a 101-level course that I could complete in less than my sleep, but there I was.

I enrolled and on the first day of class, I went to the professor and explained that I couldn't attend class because I was married and had to work at the same time as his class, so could I come when possible and otherwise just show up for the exams? I wore a fake wedding ring to substantiate this whole line of bs, and it worked. I attended exactly three class sessions: that one, the midterm and the final exam.

However, after the midterm I forgot to switch the "wedding ring" to another finger and went out with a female friend. I was hit on literally from the moment we walked into this mixed but mostly straight bar until the moment we left. It was weird. She couldn't stop expressing shock at the number of these supposedly-straight guys who kept coming on to me until I flashed her the wedding ring hand. She couldn't stop laughing and it became a running joke for decades. After she got married, she always made her husband take off his wedding ring when they went out. Conversely, I used my "fake" wedding ring for many years... until I got married.

Why do gay guys want seduce straight guys?

Fags.

Just read the article and the guy's advice is pretty solid. I agreed with most of it except the idea of having a "straight man" inside of you the rest of the day if you swallow him. I don't fetishize straight guys. I think I mostly fetishize the idea of someone doing the least likely thing anyone would expect them do to. Knowing that secret part of them that no one else knows is hot to me. It just so happens for me seeing a straight guy out with his buddies knowing you've sucked him off is hot to me.

The interesting thing to me, other than a good blowjob which most any man can get into, a lot of curious straight guys who want to try something different tend to veer towards bottoming, or at least playing the role of a bottom if no penetration actually happens. They want to do something physically different than what they can get from fucking a woman.

And for them it's not the fact that a GUY is using them to get off, but solely the fact that SOMEONE is using them to get off. A lot of them are honestly NOT attracted or turned on by men. A lot of curious straight guys who go further than a BJ want to be completely passive, submissive, and let whatever it is you do to them just happen to them. They don't want any responsibility for making a decision to leave room for plausible deniability - I was drunk, I was completely wasted, I have no idea what I did. It leaves room for never talking about it again UNTIL they want that specific thing again.

Certain people, male or female, totally get off on being used by someone else. And a man can use a man in a much more direct and obvious ways than a woman can use a man. For straight men who want to be used, there is always a conceit that they can overpower a woman. But for men who really like to get used, the idea that there is a possibility they can't actually stop what's about to happen drives them crazy. And a lot of times they will hint at a blindfold, not wanting to see who is doing it or having multiple men use them - which makes the experience less intimate and awkward, less gay in their eyes. The secret shame of a man using them is degrading and humiliating to them and gets them rock hard.

^^^Straight men kill when they are shamed. Any man who would willingly have sex with another man is not entirely straight, he is somewhere on the spectrum between straight and gay.

Oh, and also, I am an attractive guy. I do very well in the gay world and I love gay men of all kinds. BUT the grade of straight curious men I can get is much higher than the level of gay guys. If these guys were gay with their looks they would usually be extremely conceited and fully aware of their value on the market and have the pick of whatever it is they want. You don't have to be some hot ripped gym bunny to get a hot ripped straight guy. Straight guys don't admit any attraction. All they have to do is trust you and be comfortable with you and you will be the only person they seek out. And I am not usually putting in all of the work unless the straight guy is extraordinary in some way - either in build, personality, masculinity, looks or all.

[quote]Straight men kill when they are shamed. Any man who would willingly have sex with another man is not entirely straight, he is somewhere on the spectrum between straight and gay.

There is no such thing as a spectrum. It was an invention that we accepted as reality because it seemed to make sense. Human sexuality is all over the fucking map and as individual as a thumbprint. It's not along some linear gradation.

Straight cum tastes better. Yum.

80% of men experimented with a friend, family member or whatever around 12+. Of course they may want to revisit it.

Oh, and men are pigs.

And BTW, gay men don't turn straight men violent. The same guy who beats up a gay man for making a pass at him is the same man who would beat his wife for burning the meatloaf. The same man who'd shoot a gay man is the same man who'd stalk and shoot his girlfriend for breaking up with him. The wold is a violent place filled with violent people who do violent things. It's their nature. Gay men don't make them violent. And not all straight men attack someone out of shame.

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[quote] And BTW, gay men don't turn straight men violent.

I know. Straight men are prone to violence due to conditioning. They kill their crushes, girlfriends, wives and tranny sidepieces all the time. Someone was suggesting that shame is erotic for straight men, most straight men cannot tolerate shame.

Just because you can pick up a closeted guy doesn’t mean you’ve “seduced” a straight man.

I know you bookstore queens are convinced there’s a multitude of straight guys who are so horny they just want a mouth or ass. This is maybe 1% of the “straight” men. The rest are closeted or just other gay guys,

I have had experiences where the guy clearly wanted to believe i was straight. Asking “Are you married?” “Are you in the military.” I would say “I don’t want to talk about it” - and let the other guy have the fantasy, though I am pretty clearly gay. That’s how you seduce one of those queens with a “straight” guy fetish.

go on fet life and see how many "straight" guys want a bj or to be pegged.

or are ready for a backyard bbq.

A bi friend says he finds guys to have sex with all the time in straight bars. Just wait until late and most are looking for other guys to hookup with

Not fun. Not interesting. Pathetic.

R54 okay why are you here?

I remember they had a book like this in the library, specifically for men to seduce other men. It didn’t help obviously. 😂

He left off the list making eye contact and saying "Yum."

And absolutely no references to how straight guys love to hear weather reports from mamma's mussy.

That’s Mama’s secret weapon, r57. Shhhh!

I guess a lot of you aren't understanding the hunt part of this. It's not like you go to some sports bar and chat up a straight guy and try to get him home.

In my experience a friendship developed. Of course I was attracted to the guy first and foremost. It wasn't my intention to try and get to have sex wit him. But he definitely turned me on endlessly. He was a bartender at a place I would go to after work. We'd chat about all different types of things. He knew I was gay. Once a straight guy knows you're gay and confident in who you are AND you're not openly trying to hit on them, the questions start flying out. We became good friends over time. I helped, talked him through a couple of breakups. We are talking months and months. He'd tell me about whatever customer was there previously that he had fucked. He told me all about his sexual conquests and what turned him on. I freely told him about mine occasionally. Again, my end game was not just to sleep with him. But I certainly wouldn't have been opposed to it if it did. Then one night I was heading home, we were catching cabs in different directions. He had just gotten off from work. He said he didn't feel like going to bed yet and asked if I wanted to come hang out a bit before going home. I think he just liked my company and didn't want me to leave just yet. We ended up watching porn and jacking off together, some mutual stuff.

R60 it’s all about the security and trust. Straight men know that women are psychotic about homosexual behavior and if you so much as do it once they’ll stick you with that label forever. It’s a deep intrinsic view that most women have which is homophobic, they subconsciously want to eliminate the “gay gene” so they choose their partners accordingly. Women see it as a major flaw. I’m of the view that most homophobia stems from women, not saying they act out and fagbash gays, but it’s their requirements of male behavior for reproduction that leads to men behaving the way they do. Men behave how they have to in order to get access to pussy for reproducing. Women could end homophobia if they simply viewed homophobia vs. homosexuality as the inferior trait, not saying for them to get with gay men but to not get with homophobic men.

[quote] We are talking months and months.

You spent all that time cultivating a friendship with some dopey 'straight' guy just for a mutual jack-off?!

Gurl, if you want to get that bussy tore up you better start talking to the (gay) guys that want to do it.

And R62 is just the dame to do it.

That Yassss Kween will tear that little bussy up, just as soon as they get the duct tape off from their drag costume

I like to have guys from my gym over so I can suck their feet while they watch sports and JO. I always get it

“Some mutual stuff” is an insufficient description after such a long build-up, r60.

[quote]I guess a lot of you aren't understanding the hunt part of this.

We understand it and it's still pathetic.

R60 You seem gross and a person who takes advantage of others.

R61 Has managed to blame women for the fact he isn’t getting fucked by straight guys.

These types of gays are so fucking tiring.

Don’t mind the Yasss Kweens at R67 and R68 they’re hyped up from RPDR premiere last night

I love a subservient fag like R68 who does my makeup and styles my outfit.

Keep telling yourself the guy is straight. Delusional, dizzy, dumb queen who’s also predatory.

You’re single right?

R68 could you provide a coherent argument stating what is incorrect about my stance? Or do you just blindly worship women?

The accusations of anyone who is critical of the creepy stalker types (who are like straight creepers preying on lesbians) are yass queens is laughable since we know you just want to bottom it up and suck them off.

The linked article specifically states that it will take months of contact with said straight guy to build up the rapport and trust it will take to lead to you getting to blow him. It is a long game, with a reward that may or may not be worth it to you -- depends on how much you fetishize straight married guys and like giving head. The possibility for other physical play (usually excluding kissing) is even further down the horizon. The author also states he's having lots of other sex with gay guys while this long seduction plays out. So while the article is a bit silly, it is fairly realistic about this particular fetish; which is ultimately what is a play here -- either the long term chase and conquest of this particular target turns you on, or it does not.

R61 If I understand your argument correctly, you are saying that female homophobia is the reason more straight men don’t fool around with other guys. The tone of the post sounded kinda put out, as if “we could be getting more dick, but women”.

Perhaps i read your post wrong?

R73 the feather boa, lip gloss, and painted nails are the difference. Yasss Kween! You betta werk beetch!

R74 Its true, you can build a friendship, get them drunk/drugged and then in a stupor they might let you suck them off. Kinda sad though. Its also very shady.

R75 yes, somewhat but it flows into other aspects of life too. They amp up the toxic masculinity, get violent, can’t express emotions. Don’t make it black and white.

You’re still blaming women though.

R77 - you don't necessarily have to get them drunk -- all men are horny and many are open to NSA action if they really trust you is the basic tenant of the article, and I tend to agree. It's not my fetish at all, but the article lays out what is actually required in a non-Nifty / Penthouse Forum Fantasy way. It actually made me glad I have no interest -- it seems like a hell of a lot of work.

Keep telling yourself that R76.

R81 okay

Step 1, make sure you don't have bad breath.

Step 2, have a lot of money and offer it to him.

Step 3, fuck.

R77 this whole thread is a stealth groomer thread.

I condole you dead r6

I like to do it, then out them to their wives and cause a divorce. More satisfying than an orgasm.

There is a subset of homosexuals who NEED to hunt down str8 bois to be fulfilled in life. Like r86 they live for the drama of it all, hunny. TBH I never liked straight guys like that, boring!

Op when you get murdered your family better not ask for GoFundMe.

That article was very informative; I think I will add some of those techniques to my daily interactions

Or ...

Sex has so many, many different forms.

There are some men who don't want to live as "a gay man" - just prefer being married, being a father, living a life of some (now this is an irony many will deny) freedom by not being "gay"... yet want to have a guy blow them or plow them or kiss them on the neck...

Closet? I guess. Self-loathing? Hard to know.

R91 what’s the proper term for guys like that? Downlow? Closeted married guys?

horny?

Roofies...

Men are complicated creatures, and labels are not helpful.

[quote] I like to do it, then out them to their wives and cause a divorce. More satisfying than an orgasm.

Quit while you're ahead. Those straight guys will be the DEATH of you.

[quote]Labels are sometimes helpful, but not definitive.

Next time you have 90 minutes to spare, there's classic film on this subject!

A man who willingly has sex with another man is not straight. And a gay men having sex with a woman is a false comparison, those men weren't doing it willingly, they were covering up their homosexuality in a society that did not accept them.

We have this conversation over and over on DL: it will never be resolved.

R99 I am a gay man. I loved a woman (a childhood sweetheart). I had sex with her willingly. I prefer sex with men. I have been with a man exclusively for 27 years. I do not consider myself bisexual in any way.

And I had sex with that woman because I wanted to...

And Rachel Dolezal doesn't consider herself white and trans women don't consider themselves to be men....what people consider themselves and what they are can be two different things.

I think there are many people, both straight and gay -- perhaps the majority -- who never had any kind of inner-confusion or conflict over which sex they are attracted to. Then there are those of us, who aren't bi, who did have to sort through a mass of contradictory feelings and desires, as well as encounters, before we were sure of what we wanted.

While it would be nice if the first group had some understanding of the variances and nuances of sexual attraction that the second group does, given human nature and their own black & white experiences, that is rare.

The people who constantly scream that NO MAN IS STRAIGHT THAT WILL SLEEP WITH A MAN! are rigid gender role extremists. They probably think of gay sex as lower than straight sex.

A man who is predominantly heterosexual will be very tough to seduce. This article is for fetish seekers (and trolls). Nice try OP.

Yes yes, that's it. Calling someone who willingly has sex with their own gender a bisexual must be sexism and HOMOPHOBIA!

Or, you know, logic.

Wow. That was both sad and pathetic.

Being on the receiving end of a blow job, with no reciprocation, kissing, or even touching the person blowing you (which is the kind of sex that the article is promoting) doesn't make the guy getting the blow-job necessarily gay, just like if the blower is obese he's not necessarily a chubby-chaser. Some men, when horny and with no better prospects, feel a mouth is just a mouth.

This correlates with the whole "fairy" identity of the early 20th century - they were (happily) used by all sorts of neighborhood guys.

I'm sure most of us have been so horny at times we've gotten blow-jobs from people we really weren't attracted to at all because we just wanted to get off and they were willing and available.

It wasn't particularly difficult to get something started with the two straight men I believe I've fooled around with (as opposed to deeply closeted or in denial bi and straight men who [italic]presented[/italic] as straight). But it wasn't all that rewarding either. One experience was positive, though not exceptional and I primarily remember it for the novelty. The other was disappointing and kind of sad; the other guy discovered that satisfying his curiosity in real life didn't appeal to him the way his fantasy had.

Ack, that should read "deeply closeted or in denial bi and gay men..."

100% agree with what R1 said. This article makes gays look repulsive and lecherous.

If a "straight" male has sex with another male then they just [bold]aren't straight[/bold]. No matter what the fetishists try to make you believe. Fact. End of story.

This article is giving recommendations for a one on one encounter, it doesn’t paint all gay men with a negative brush, it’s about developing a friendship with somebody, admittedly with an ulterior motive, and then getting down to business. And even if you don’t get all the way and close the deal, you still made a friend.

Just listen to yourself R111.

I don’t think it’s particularly dishonest, you’re letting the guy know that you are gay upfront, and I’m sure most straight guys think the gay guys are after them anyway, so where is the harm…

[quote]and I’m sure most straight guys think the gay guys are after them anyway

Is that [bold]really[/bold] what you think R113?

It’s a sentiment I have heard more than once

Just picturing the str8 obsessed eldergays with a small plate full of pills feeding their straight victim until he becomes vunerable.

Rohypnol R116? The Eldergays have that on tap. They don't have any other choice.

People STOP looking for straight guys to seduce

Just look for straight ACTING guys instead.

One fun game to play with a straight guy is to hang out and let them know you are gay but don't flirt with them at all. Men brag about sexual conquest all the time, so talk about yours. Since straight men in general think gay men always want them, this guy will be perturbed and curious as to why you don't find him attractive or why you are not into him. They do tend to take it personally after a while, especially this latest generation. People like to be desired even if they aren't into the person desiring them. And they will want to know what about them isn't a turn on to you. By the end you are having mercy sex just to boost his self esteem.

R119 filed under "This Never Happened"

I don't know why people like r120 have to be so black and white about things. There are no absolutes when it comes to human sex.

I think people are conflating sexuality with sex. I am gay. I enjoy being gay and seek out sex with men. But I like sex and given the perfect situation I can see myself having sex with a woman and enjoying it, the novelty of it. That doesn't make me bisexual. Being gay is much more than what I do sexually. My sexuality is much more than who I have sex with. And if as a gay man I can say this about myself, then a straight man can say the same thing about himself.

[quote]The protestors are always the Fraus, then the Platinum & Gold Star Gays who were so femme and nelly that no straight guy wanted to be within a mile of them.

Nah, you’ve got those descriptions reversed, Bruno. The femme and nellies with lisps that can be heard in the next county are the delusional ones who think that straight men CANNOT resist them. What makes these fruitcakes genuinely pathetic is the amount of time and effort wasted on this supposed seduction while completely overlooking willing candidates--or non-victims.

ALSO? The SAME people defending this foolishness are the same ones calling women "Fish" and criticizing them for surrounding themselves with beautiful gay men they have no chance of being with.

Here come the DL leering towel dropping perv predator protectors again. You lot are really showing your asses these days. Please do go after straight guys and see how that works out for you. You’ll find yourselves dead or in jail most likely.

I don't know why people, such as R119 and R121, are so deluded. They concoct fictional self-identities and backstories that sell themselves to themselves. And they concoct elaborate scenarios of being disingenuous to straight men, in a long game, which gets them "mercy sex" with said straight men. Because straight men LOVE their disingenuous gay friends and want lying gays to desire them.

[quote] Some men, when horny and with no better prospects, feel a mouth is just a mouth.

Fascinating, I wonder how many gay guys feel a mouth is just a mouth.

r122 and r123 are the self loathing ones having to degrade certain gay men by calling them nelly, and effeminate. They have more gay panic in them than the straight guys they are terrified of offending. They also can't read.

I am the poster who has probably responded the most here, although I am not the OP. I am actually not effeminate although I do love effeminate gay men. I do find them sexy. I find all types of men sexy. I have sex with gay available partners for the most part. I am gay so obviously I am having sex for the most part with gay men. Courting straight men is not my only outlet. Actually it is a very small part of it. I have done it maybe a handful of times. But what the author writes about seducing a straight man is pretty accurate. It's sport.

In my experience, there is always something in the initial conversation that is illuminating. I am not interested in people who are not interested in me. There is always some good conversation. They become comfortable with me. I love the slow boil of it all, talking to them, getting into their head. I guess it is a power play. And usually I am just fine with the friendship, but at times a few of them have turned into something sexual. Guys can separate friendship from sex. Sex can be a hobby or just sport. And once it happens the first time and you don't make a big deal about it, the straight guy will hit you up again.

Haven't we known for years it just took a six pack and a willingness to swallow?

If they come back for seconds, they are not straight.

[quote]How to Seduce a Straight Guy: 10 Tips to Get Him Into Your Bed!

And may I welcome you to our Incel 101 curriculum!

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It drives straight men wild - they won't be able to keep their hands off of you!

[quote]you is the basic tenant of the article,

Oh, dear!

[quote]I have a friend who loves and recounts at nauseum what he does to convince gays guys to fuck him.

Huh?

[quote]time, a place where there were ton's of tourist

Oh, dear.

r132 - r134 probably chews his toenails. There is a time and a place for everything, including correction. Your commentary is unnecessary.

So this guy and me, we're like friends from childhood, so we know each other our whole lives. I'm gay and he's straight. Recently he broke up with his girlfriend and that's when he told me he'd like to try "it" with a guy (it meaning sex 😲). I told him that it's ok to experiment with guys.

So then he told me he wants to try it with me. So I was surprised, like very surprised and he said I'm the only gay man he knows well so he thinks it makes sense that he turns to me. He said he thinks I'm cute and kind of remind him of this girlfriend two girlfriends ago. Weird, right? I don't feel comfortable with it. I mean, he is like really handsome and he's a really nice guy but we're friends and I'm not sure friends should have sex with each other, you know?

OK also I admit I am nervous too because some of his girlfriends gossiped and said he's really good but rough in bed and also more than one said he has a huge penis. I've only seen it soft and yeah its big already. One even said he drowned her in his huge loads.

So I told him he could easily find other gay men that he could experiment with. Like he would get a lot of attention in gay clubs.

But then he said why should he go and find some stranger that he doesn't know when I'm his friend, he knows me and feels safe with me. I guess in a way it makes sense but I don't really think it's right.

Do you think he just wants my help, because I'm easy and safe.

Or does he think I'm hot and wants to fuck me? Do you think this could work out? I guess I do kind of love him. But I don't want to ruin our lifelong friendship.

[quote]There is a time and a place for everything, including correction.

There’s also a time and a place for using appropriate spelling and grammar and not showing your ignorance. This is it.

We expect and will tolerate nothing less.

R136–if you keep saying “so” and “like” your relationship is doomed in any case. Might as well let him fuck you.

Cam you really develop a real friendship if you have an ulterior motive R111? That is the question.

[quote]Being gay is much more than what I do sexually. My sexuality is much more than who I have sex with.

This is nonsense. That is the literal definition of sexuality or being gay. It has nothing to do with anything except are you a man who has sex with other men.

That said, of course there is some flexibility with sexuality. Guys who are almost exclusively straight can experiment under the right circumstances. But being obsessed with always trying to get into straight guys pants is a sign of emotional damage.

[quote] It’s a sentiment I have heard more than once

I wouldn't apply it to everyone, but it is a phenomenon that happens. A very good friend of mine, and the first of that closeness I made after the decision to just be up front about my sexuality, did ask me if I was into him and seemed slightly disappointed when I told him he wasn't my type. Though I know he wasn't actually interested in experimenting, he's had offers. In fact he checked with me to make sure he wasn't being offensive in his rejections to a drinking buddy who has a habit of hitting on him in early a.m. texts when drunk and lonely.

Not much of a fan of this topic, but that model in OP’s attached story is fine as hell.

A gay man with “emotional damage?” Imagine that.

A wig, stockings, lipstick and a wet mussy

[quote]This is nonsense. That is the literal definition of sexuality or being gay. It has nothing to do with anything except are you a man who has sex with other men.

That is actually nonsense. You can never have sex your entire life and STILL be gay. What about kids who come out as gay who have never had sex? How do they know they are gay then if they have never had sex? So if a gay man become celibate he is no longer is gay?

Gay has more to do with having an emotional connection to men that leads to wanting to express those feelings sexually. But being gay is not JUST who you have sex with.

R127, do you have a job? You seem to have a lot of time on your hands...almost as much spare time as ER doctors on Twitter seem to have. Which is a lot.

I didn't read the article - didn't have to. I just knew that it would put all the Dataloungers' panties in a bunch.

Thread read, suspicions confirmed.

The arguments made in this thread are why the term MSM (men who have sex with men) was derived in the world of sexual healthcare. If someone wants to socially present as straight and get their dick sucked in the side, good for the suckee and the sucker. Both win.

Don't do it r136. These types of things never end well.

r142 it looks like Brazilian supermodel Marlon Teixeira

Does underage coercion count?

[quote]Cam you really develop a real friendship if you have an ulterior motive [R111]? That is the question.

That is a great question R139 and one I constantly asked myself. I felt guilty at some points wondering if I was friends with this person because I liked them or because I was attracted to them. With one of my straight buds, there wasn't much there to begin with so I basically told myself the possible sex was the reason I was in it. He was hot too, former NBL pitcher, tall as fuck. I liked him enough, but curiosity about his naked body kept me engaged.

My other straight friend actually became a really good friend of mine. He was the one I questioned myself about. I did really like him. Up until something did happen, I had thought I would prefer nothing did if it caused me to lose his friendship. And I actually told him that if this changed our friendship I didn't want to do anything. But fortunately the friendship didn't change. That part of it just became very compartmentalised as something that might happen when we are both very drunk.

NBL pitcher?