Carly Simon

I love Carly Simon. This video gives me the sads.

r1 hey, she moves pretty good for a celeb her age. .. one a kinky sexpot with an eating disorder and prone to drug binges.

Her hands are shaking. She looks like she barely knows where she is.

[quote] She looks like she barely knows where she is.

She’ll probably thinks this thread is about her.

Poor thing, she looks 10 years older than her age. Let’s this be a cautionary tale to Tom Brady as to the consequences of making out with your son.

Horse

James Taylor is in great shape compared to her. He’s 5 years younger, but still… considering the monstrous heroin addiction that he somehow survived, it should have been the other way around.

r8 women that party hard for any extended time are less likely to make it to past their 60s.

male or female, even if they've quit the damage done usually starts showing up by 50. If they don't and say started in their teens or earlier, we usually start seeing signs of internal damage by 30.

in part, why you see more male old homeless addicts than female... and of course, other factors come into play but the biological differences are no joke... in general, women are more prone to become addicts/alcoholics as they have a harder time discoveirng their limits, often when young they view blacking out or vomiting is the limit and so, this leading to greater possibility of overdosing. . . often in competition with the people around them. We got a lot of math here for bmi + activities, then life sciences so, male or female, the more petite you are, the greater chance for serious longterm damage. (though, fatties, you're as much at risk as well.)

they you've got lifestyle and fitness, given that women are less likely to workout to build/maintain muscle (while it's slowly changing, a lot of women are still afraid that anything other than cardio is going to give them man body) or do manual labor, so more prone to early muscle wasting (or obesity ) and more prone to fasting, cleanses and crash dieting leading to a variety of complications and possible disorders.

in average, fit, healthy people - females do the most damage in their 20s, males in their 30s... now they can be prodigy and start younger, but in general men need to quit partying within their late twenties to early thirties, women within in their early to mid twenties. ladies, that's your gift for physically maturing faster. Individual bio makeup may vary.

both ashkenazi and cuban have their own set of competing issues... more so from her generation and prior.

and those with starvation based eating disorders, has a long list of complications... even if recovered, they're more prone to sudden death (any number of reasons.. often related to previous stress damage) as well as early onset dementia and alzheimer's, and a host of neurological, motor control and autoimmune complications.

And just general mental health (she's been open about having severe anxiety; which can develop into heart related issues, but specifically stress.) and the celebrity lifestyle (high level stress.. stress itself is difficult for most people to manage and can cause massive physical damage to the body in varying ways)

Coming Around Again

What's wrong with her? Does she have Parkinson's?

And tomorrow we might not be together

I'm no prophet and I don't know nature's ways

So I'll try and see into your eyes right now

And stay right here 'cause these are the good old days

She stayed youthful for so long, finally she is looking her age. She has some good songs. I loved her with James Taylor and I don't think she ever really got over him.

r11 unknown but most of her family is dead (siblings, obviously parents, uncles. Two of her sisters died earlier this year. ), friends (peers), too. She's had lifelong struggles with drugs (social and prone to relationships with men that do, too), While the eating disorder is still in the unofficial category save we've all seen her looking unhealthy and far too thin when she's already thin (it's miracle she was able to go through a pregnancy and more than once.). The anxiety. Also, old, frail, dames tend to look freakish... her features were always exaggerated with prominent bone, now her face shows she's likely had some cosmetic work or treatments.. you're looking at an old leathery hide pulled back. It's a bit Gina Davis in Beetlejuice.

if I had to guess.. I'd likely think heart issues, I wouldn't be surprised if she has to use oxygen daily or especially with movement. It's also likely she has tardive dyskinesia. As to other issues, I really couldn't say.

Lucy

Aww, such an iconic person, voice, and name! I hate to see people age at all, certainly not celebrities of my childhood!

2016

1977

2019

2002

So who was 'You're So Vain' about? Or is it going to be a cop out saying it was a variety of people.

r21 herself.

She refuses to say publically. She's told some people but most everyone still thinks its about them or someone else.

r21 I mean, come on... it's worked out for her (as someone said in the lifetime video) because the media continues to speculates on who it might be.

She'looks frail - she reportedly suffers some bone thinning disease and fought breast cancer some time ago.

What the hell happened?!

It sort of sucks that we're celebrating her like she's already gone, but damn she had some great moments.

[quote]She looks like she barely knows where she is.

But she's a legend in her own time.

She never sounded on key. She's got that Judy Collins/Mary J. Blige/Joan Baez thing. Always in the neighborhood, never hits the bell. I don't know how people can listen to her.

Showing Madonna how it's done!

r23 I remember she auctioned off the answer to who it was about but they had to keep it secret.

Dear god, I'm old.

r26 that is my favorite Bond theme. I was in elementary school and I remember our bus driver played 'Nobody Does It Better' and was singing along to it.

Wow I didn’t have any sense of her condition. Are we sure this is actually Simon?

I pictured her like my mom, older but sharp and spry. But reading this thread, seeing comments about eating disorders, anxiety and drugs (?). I pictured Simon as part of the artistic and intellectual cognoscenti, because she moved in really exclusive circles on Martha’s Vineyard and in the upper East side in NYC. On the Vineyard, she lived near William and Rose Styron, Lillian Hellman and Peter Feibleman, John Hersey, Jackie Onassis, Mike Nichols & Diane Sawyer.

This was a really slick and exclusive crowd that thinned out gradually in the 1980’s. I knew some affiliates and it looked like a really famous but also messy and complex social environment.

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R36 well she cracked

I think she is in her late 70s. Her expressions and movement suggest dementia- hope not. Old age is a bitch. Some fade fast while others hang on mentally and physically far past late 70s. She’s had a pretty tough year. At least she seems happy here.

Looks frail. but not alarmingly so. Older people, including Madonna struggle to keep up with social media trends!

My favorite concert of hers is the one from the late '80s filmed on Martha's Vineyard.

r37 the secret is body fat leading to diabetes and congestive heart failur among others.

She had some pretty amazing songs. “You Belong to Me” got a ton of airplay when I was a kid, and of course “You’re so Vain”. The theme from the film Working Girl may have charted, too. That song is very anthemic, but listing today sounds a little cheesy.

She is a great talent, but was maybe born on third base at a high period of publishing (Simon & Schuster). That period of peak fame with James Taylor might have been a rough slog, with drugs and fame and jealousy and insecurity. It’s like she flew close to the sun, and got scorched. In the 90’s we shared a close friend. I never met or knew her, but I got a sense that her world was a huge mess of complexity.

^^ooh, shit, that’s meant to spell “listening today”.

I bet she's sitting in a wet spot of urine.

R40 Warren it’s a little shocking that she was able to reproduce that sound live in that cool clip. I don’t think many performers then or now we’re able to do that.

She is surrounded by excellent musicians in that video. I think it was a fundraiser on The Vineyard. It’s a pleasure to watch.

I forgot how beautiful she was at the peak of her fame. That hugely expressive face, slim frame, gorgeous voice and “presence”. I think she was a stutterer and sang as a means to develop fluency in her communication. I may be misremembering that, though. Her smile was about a yard wide.

I think that opening base line of “You Belong to Me” is one of a handful that stand out as really memorable. I’d be interested to learn which hits have the most striking and memorable opening notes or sound. Blondie’s “One Way or Another” is a good example, also “Atomic”.

It’s surprising how many hits she had. She was just inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Didn’t her two sisters die in the same week this year?

With all that Botox, she doesn’t look a day over 20!

'You Belong to Me' was written with Michael McDonald. He has his own version. Great, great song.

It's one of those songs - as R47 says of the opening base line - that is a candidate for 'I can name that song in one note.'

Here's another link to the Simon roots article. She;s still black.

As a kid I knew her songs from commercials - Heinz "Anticipation" and Medipren "Haven't got time for the Pain"

The original, much better song with the title "You Belong to Me."

[quote]So who was 'You're So Vain' about? Or is it going to be a cop out saying it was a variety of people.

I think it actually is about a variety of people, which is the joke. “You probably think this song is about YOU.” She was surrounded by narcissistic men in the industry when she wrote it, and was trolling them all.

This video was posted to her official TikTok account. Yes, she’s on TikTok.

R56 Correction: her publicist is on Tik Tok.

With her legacy and accomplishments, she doesn't need a publicist or a social media presence.

That's sad.

That's elder abuse filming her like that and posting it on social media

Not to worry your petty heads, DL’ers. Carly’s coming around again.

Will Smith? Needs a publicist, a good one. Madonna? Needs a GOOD publicist, B. Spears? The same.

No, no, no, r62. What they need is a good make-them-go-awayist.

Carly’s doing the octogenarian “arthritis dance” in the TikTok clip. She had breast cancer in her 50s. Maybe that and/or the treatment aged her a little more rapidly.

I always thought it was Warren Beatty for the You’re So Vain mystery. It was clearer after she sold off a few letters in the name for charity I believe a few years ago. But above poster could easily be right; it may be multiple guys.

Or maybe Mick Jagger with the "scarf that was apricot" but I always figured it was Warren too.

Her bedroom is pretty. She is frail with fragile bones. You can see it in the form her body takes while seated.

She looks happy though. I hope she's surrounded by love and care.

R49, her sisters died a day apart.

And one was married to the author of Cruising.

Why the hell would anyone post this to their TikTok ???

People, including Madonna and even Britney Spears do not understand this social media stuff.

It can't be just age because Dan Rather is hilarious on Twitter. George Takei is also very good.

George Takei works with a social media service.

They concoct or suggest everything and he edits and approves. They have many celebrity accounts.

That is sensible, r71. I assumed his younger hubby managed his social media accounts. Madonna needs this service.

This is how someone with advanced dementia reacts to familiar music. It perks them up and they remarkably can remember song lyrics even though they can’t remember much of anything else. You can see her struggling with some of the words though.

R72, Madonna needs Britney’s father.

Britney needs Britney’s father.

She wrote a book about how Jackie On Assistance disliked and avoided her. That's kinda crazy.

"I was Camelot's troubadour!"

Yep, Merle they are

Carly will be 80 this coming year. She's the final remaining member of her original family, with the recent death of both her sisters. That's got to be tough.

Posters here say she's had drug issues in the past. I've never heard this about Carly - James Taylor certainly had serious issues, but not Carly. Beyond some recreational use during the 70s/80s, I've never heard that she abused herself.

I don't know how people can listen to YOU, Mary @r30.

R76 Doesn't sound like it

She's already had him, R75.

They were like sisters, R81!

Carly Simon is 79 years old.

She's FUCKIN old now.

Who filmed this shit? No friend of Carly. It's terribly mean.

Carly still looked pretty good in the 2016 video R17 posted but at OP's link she no longer looks like the same person. She looks and acts like a poorly rendered animatronic version of Carly Simon.

"I believe in love..."

Martha Stewart is aging FAR better than this monkey 🐵 or that other little old lady 👵 Michelle Philips.

[quote] I always thought it was Warren Beatty for the You’re So Vain mystery

She already said that the song is about David Geffen.

R89- I was told it was about her then husband James Taylor.

[quote]She already said that the song is about David Geffen.

That was Joni, and "Free Man in Paris."

People age very differently- look at the differences between Carly, Fonda, Streisand, and Minnelli. Aging is tough and I hope those who make fun of those struggling “grow up” a bit.

R92- How old are you?

I just loved seeing them sing together, they were a beautiful couple

People get old, even ones who where considered sex symbols in their day. That's life. I don't feel sorry for her. She's a rich old person.

She hasn't got (much) time (left) for the pain (to be eased by mortality's inevitable sleep).

She certainly could sing well and she had the "natural" glamor of the age.

Whoever posted that is really cruel.

R21 isn't the popular guess Warren Beaty? She publicly ruled out Mick Jagger and the only other name I've ever heard was Warren, who was quite the womanizer in his day.

James Taylor was quite a looker in his day. I love his eyes. I'm a little jealous that Carly was able to get him at his peak.

how bout an 8x10 photo of his 8x10 dick

LOVE this song.

[quote]I always thought it was Warren Beatty for the You’re So Vain mystery

[quote]She already said that the song is about David Geffen.

She has gone on record saying that it is about more than one man, but has only confirmed Beatty is one of them. She has explicitly denied that Jagger or Geffen were subjects.

Jagger actually sings back up on the song.

I shudder to think what Ben's having to do for her now.

R94 Jesus Christ those two were so sexy and charismatic. In that clip, they look like two hot shits. I can only imagine being born with that combination of looks and talent. They remind me of the coolest kids in school. That video shows a lot of presence and charisma, and a shitload of sex appeal.

Reading this thread has me listening to Carly on iTunes shuffle. I have all her albums: 20+ hours. I feel as if I'm keeping vigil. God bless you, Carly Simon.

For years, Simon said she was born on June 25, 1946. However, in the past year, it was confirmed she was born on June 25, 1943 - so she will be 80 this year, not 77.

She had breast cancer in 1998-99, when she was 55, not sure about any other times after that. I never ever heard she had a drug problem like other singers have had.

I think she's morphing into Joni Mitchell these days, who is the same age as Carly. Her hair is way too light for her pale skin, and her face lift is horrible. Who thought it was a good idea to give her the "Lily Tomlin" - stretch out and elongate your face ?

Her music catalog is one to envy - she has written most of the songs she has recorded over the past 50 years.

James Taylor AND Warren Beatty got to eat that golden pussy

Carly was my babysitter when she was at Sarah Lawrence. I'm now 71. She was at least 6 or7 years older than me.

And it was Warren Beatty who was so vain. She didn't tell me that, but the guy who wrote the song with her (her usual song writer whom she seldom gave full credit to ) told me. It was definitely Warren. But saying all the others was more fun, later....

109 How old were you when she babysat you ?

I'm not r109. r110, but Carly was around 20 when she was in Sara Lawrence, so OP must have been...12-14?

I don't know her.

[quote]That was Joni, and "Free Man in Paris."

I wanted to call it "Pickle Puffer in Paris" but my label said no. We all knew Geffen was a homo.

Does Joni still resents Carly after all these years?

Joni has spoken very unkindly about Carly's music - but we all know it's not really about the music.

I totally believe you R109. Of course the song was about Warren. He's the only one dopey enough to wear an apricot scarf. Lucky for him he had his looks to make up for his "dressed in the dark" fashion sense.

In the "Girls Like Us" book (about Carole King, Joni Mitchell and Carly Simon), towards the end the author talks about Joni and Carly going to dinner as older women. Joni said something like "I never knew she was so nice!" And she also got the impression that Carly hadn't ever fully gotten over James Taylor.

The only thing I remember Joni criticizing Carly about was her showing too much skin on an album cover (probably the "Playing Possum" album). She didn't like women using their sexuality to sell records. She lit into Linda Ronstadt about this as well (and later, Madonna).

It wouldn't surprise me if she ragged on Carly's music, though. She absolutely hated being lumped in with all the other women of her era, or being compared to them in any way. The one I recall that truly pissed her off, though, was Rickie Lee Jones.

Yes I was about 12. And a rambunctious kid whom my parents knew better than to leave alone.

My family had connections to the Simon family which is why Carly was my baby sitter. It was Joanna, however, that my family knew well. She was always very sweet to me and, well, enormous. Despite her kindness I was scared of her. Carly was also tall but not as intimidating.

Jacob Brackman was the songwriter, btw. Oddly, despite the fact Carly used to be quite open about his writing the lyrics, she stopped being so,.

Interesting guy, but he seems like a never-was. Are you implying that Simon has underplayed his inputs, r117?

If Joni Mitchell hated when female singers used sexuality on their album covers to sell records, she must've hated Donna Summer's tactics. It doesn't get more 'sexual' than her 'Bad Girls' album with Summer dressed as a street hooker.

I have an equine pussy.

I've always thought of Carly as such an ingenue herself. A veritable will o' the wisp.

Whoever originally recorded her in this state and posted it is a horrid person.

Linda Ronstadt will go before her

R117 is mentally ill and NONE of that is remotely true.

She roped some pretty good dick for being unfortunately faced.

I knew her sister Lucy. Lovely woman, but Carly is the talented one…

My favorite Carly tune ish "I haven't got time for cocaine". Itsh terrif!

R127 Meh, you tried

I have always loved the song. " That's the Way I've Always Heard it Should be." To me it's a very accurate description of marriage and having children. I only find out a few years ago that Mick Jagger sang backup vocals on You're So Vain. It made me laugh because you know he thought that song was about him, 😂. ( I believe it was about Warren Beatty but that is only my guess. No one knows except Carly and she ain't telling. )