NBC takes down Whoopi!! You in danger, girl!!

If white people cannot see that a black woman sees racism in black and white and she see Jews as white, then fuck them. This is just a public lynching of a black woman over an internecine Democratic argument.

Oh, get over it already. It’s as ridiculous as a show called The Talk firing someone for talking. Whoopi is saying her view. She works for The View. People need to grow a pair and stop being such whiny wimps. No one gives a single shit what Whoopi has to say. She has no power. This is the same woman who came up with “rape rape”. She’s not a member of Mensa.

Flashback of idiot Whoopi discussing racism. At the end she tells the AUDIENCE to kiss her butt and to keep their opinions to their self!! This is after Rosie P and Rosie O and even Laverne Cox try to school her.

Whoopi is a black Karen, literally.

Twice in 10 months. A woman misappropriating a Jewish name she has no birthright to, who clearly thinks HER race allows her the right to mouth off about her historical ignorance.

R1 But Jews are white.

Well she was right about not being able to recognize who is Jewish just by passing them on the street.

She looks like a gorilla 🦍

R6 and so are Nazis. That's her point.

It gets established in every single one of these threads that there is great debate over whether Jews are culturally considered white or not, and I suspect one reason we get a new thread on this every 5 minutes is because our asshole trolls don't want you to know that this is not a settled issue. They want you to think that it's been settled, Whoopi is in the wrong, and should be punished severely for what she said.

If anything, someone needs to tell her to stop fucking talking about it, but it's not as if her opinion is rare, and it's not even all that scandalous. The problem is that a lot of professional bad-faith actors have taken over the internet and social media, and they're looking for things to take down certain "liberal" celebrities, or just "minority" celebrities be they gay, black, or what have you.

Thread Closed !!!!

Go away whoppie

She’s using the American definition of Race, which we’ve all been brought up with. She did nothing wrong

R3, Whoopi comes off so badly there. The two Rosies and Laverne destroyed her.

She wants to retire... I'd guess she re-entered into this, well, yes, because of her unapologetic ego but largely, she wants them to violate their contract, so she can get a larger payout. . . she's a poor businesswoman, her side projects survive on lump sums, exhausting their funding, rather than their earning potential.

^ I'm assuming, of course.

r10 so, it's racist to call her out because jews have more privilege or because she's liberal rather than conservative?

Call her out for what? Race has different definitions, she’s using the one she’s used to. Nothing is done in malice.

Called out for taking a proprietary interest in the word “racism.” It can be about more than skin color.

The View had Laverne Cox on? To do what? Represent all those millions of "trans women of color" and what they think real women are not understanding about how to be a woman? I hope Whoopi schooled him about the fact that having a dick makes you a disturbed man in a dress and nothing more!

She’s just like the rest of the demographic she belongs to, like Kanye, they’re testing limits now and think they’re able to say anything they want with zero consequences.

If a white or hispanic person said it they’d be cancelled ASAP

R1 shows the abysmal biting-their-own-tails stances of such professional black people as Goldberg ("Goldberg," mind you - the cunt took a Jewish name but sees Jews as white?).

It's all about them. Which actually means nothing for the community. It means a chance to spout their uninformed, stupid opinions while pretending they are the great MLK standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

R1 represents the stupidity of view that allows people who are successful to continue playing the victim card because it's their ace.

Black people who are reparations types hate that Jews are higher up on the hierarchy of victims than them, so they want to take it down. The holocaust race thing is something Whoopi should shut the fuck up about.

R21 nothing that Whoopi said was in the same universe as Kanye. Please try being an independent thinker and reading things that were actually said and not just headlines. You will be much more successful in life.

[Quote] Called out for taking a proprietary interest in the word “racism.” It can be about more than skin color.

Yes it can be more than about skin color but we in America are so obsessed about skin color equating to race that it’s completely understandable that we don’t know the various definitions of race.

What she said isn’t in the least antisemitic. It’s lack of knowledge

[Quote] "Goldberg," mind you - the cunt took a Jewish name but sees Jews as white?

Please. Jews see themselves as white. That’s what they all check off on the census form.

Plus Christians see Jews a white. See any depiction of Jesus for details.

You can’t continue to rely on “lack of knowledge” as an excuse. Ignorance is curable in people of good will.

I'm a 50-year-old from flyover and I have to honestly tell you I never thought Jews were a different race, just a different religion. I understand Hitler and the Nazis thought otherwise. Does this make me racist?

[quote] If white people cannot see that a black woman sees racism in black and white and she see Jews as white, then fuck them.

If anybody fails to see why what Whoopi said is clueless, then fuck them. There is a whole world that exists outside of America, maybe she should learn about it.

[quote] This is just a public lynching of a black woman

MARY!

R29, no, that's not racist. But what is completely clueless is Whoopi not understanding that the Nazis--the persecutors in this situation--DID consider the Jews as an inferior race. Therefore, what the Nazis did WAS based on racism. It's not complicated. Whoopi even mentioned that the Nazis did consider the Jews an inferior race yet it doesn't cross her mind that, duh, that's the fucking reason people call the Nazis racist.

R29 no it doesn't. It makes you a typical American. Whoopi's problem iapplying America's black/white racial dichotomy to a worldview. Race is viewed differently abroad especially outside of Western Erurope and North America. Obviously Germany was in Western Europe but race was very real thing there, and was not confounded by a black/white dichotomy. There probably was no notion of it; very few people of African descent. But make no mistake about it race was very real, with different markers. Just because in America it so easy to identify race because like I said the black/white thing and our beautiful brown skin is noticeable, comparing it to the more subtle differences of people sharing similar skin tones is a mistake. It's very complicated

it doesn't. It makes you a typical American. Whoopi's problem is applying America's black/white racial dichotomy to a worldview. Race is viewed differently abroad especially outside of Western Erurope and North America. Obviously Germany was in Western Europe but race was very real thing there, and was not confounded by a black/white dichotomy. There probably was no notion of it; very few people of African descent. But make no mistake about it race was very real, with different markers. Just because in America it so easy to identify race because like I said the black/white thing and our beautiful brown skin is noticeable, comparing it to the more subtle differences of people sharing similar skin tones is a mistake. It's very complicated.

people desperately need all jews to be white europeans, so they can say albanian palestinians are brown.

In the US, the only racism is whites toward blacks. None other exists.

America is the center of the world, so in this case, all those offended by cultural appropriation and western imperialism agree that only America's view of race, power and privilege matters!

R32, agreed with almost everything you said except the part about it being complicated. I don't understand how it's complicated, it's actually very simple. But we Americans tend to live in a bubble and are completely clueless about how things work in other countries. That goes for all ethnicities (as a whole) in this country. R35, LOL.

Whoopie is just being a typical American. Firing her for saying what America has fed us all our lives is ridiculous.

Plus the whole “Jews are a race” stuff is controversial too.

[Quote] In the US, the only racism is whites toward blacks. None other exists.

Please. Whoopie is exhibiting no racism here

Is antisemitism racism?

No R29, it doesn't make you racist. It puts you in line with the thinking of most people. I have never met a Jewish person who thought they were anything but white. The whole is stupid because Whoopi isn't denying the Holocaust or that Jewish were murdered. Whoopi is not anti-Sematic. This thing has been blown out of proportion because no one wants to listen to what she's saying.

Race is a social construct, and it has been understood differently in the past, especially in places with different populations than the US. It’s not racist to fail to understand this, but after it has been explained, to refuse to acknowledge history is insensitive at best.

R41–it depends on the social dynamics of the society being looked at. In 20th Century Europe, the answer is yes. In today’s US, the answer is probably no.

r42 don't know many Jews do you?

Or is it you only consider fair skin Jews to be real Jews?

Funny, she doesn't look druish.

R35 has terminal cancer 🔮

Whoopi isn't racist, she's just dumb and clueless like the people in this thread who think she was actually making a good point; she was not. Her views are the typical insular American views applied to other countries.

This is the new Blue Dress/Gold Dress?

Whoopi has identified as Jewish in the past. LOL

Who is the weirdo posting these videos at R51 and R52 and why?

r55 The politics are more layered but people like relying on simplicity to justify bias and bigotry, to spread ignorance and promote libel..,. to which many Jews see this as an extension of the khazar myths.

r55 or say, the general need for many people to minimize the holocaust. whether good intentioned and just ignorant or otherwise.

We could also suggest this part of the paternalism in which ados are given a pass as they fall in the peripheral of being viewed as noble savages, or victims, unequal to the rest of society, perhaps even inferior, therefore cannot be held to the same standards as everyone else.

[quote]the general need for many people to minimize the holocaust

Where did Whoopi try to minimize the holocaust? Show me one statement she made where she does that?

r60 the moment she tried to make this white on white crime, dear.

She’s undermining what happened. She’s a stupid cunt and should be canceled.

^ especially concerning modern social justice politics and privilege stack.. which viewing it within that light is minimization.

just do a search across social media, sociology departments, the internet in general about whether you can be "racist" against "white" people.

There's a paper trail on my ancestry going back 600 years. . . not because of famed lineage but rather because of the demographic they belonged to.

what a privilege.

Oh bullshit R61. A bunch of people were slaughtered, it was horrific no matter what the reason. One reason over another doesn't make a slaughtering better or worse. But I think I see what's happening here. This isn't a thread about Whoopi, this is another thread shitting on black people. I don't know why it took me this long to figure that out.

R66 you see what you want to see

r66 so, you see Jews as white and being racist to black people. alrighty.

Gurl, ain’t nobody watching all those videos

The Holocaust was not about religion. It was about race. The nazi were all about race, blood and soil, etc.. She calls that "white on white crime" as if it was some burglary series at the trailer park? A little mutual stabbing maybe here and there? I thought she was just dumb but now she seems vile. The systematic attempted extinction of an entire race in multiple countries all over Europe is not just "white on white crime". (Posting from Nürnberg and really, fuck her.)

r76 That's fine. I know if I provided references to books or quotes, they wouldn't be read either. Most people don't want context or to know what they're talking about, or understand other people.

It's acceptable bias, anyway... the Jewish question, no matter the topic, no matter the scene.

ever go to a public Jewish event or an event bya Jew and not experience protest?

We could toss in the context sphere.. the surrounding politics, immediate, to Whoopi's comments.. both at the start of the year and now. The timing is much to do it with as Whoopi's history in general. We all known she's a crackpot that does things off the cuff and doesn't really care about the fallout. We need not bring up Ted Danson's blackface.

Still, if you want one video to go over, then the Loury/McWhorter one offers some arguments that might be beneficial to you... regardless of your position

Solution: Hire people from different countries to be on The View because it's clearly an American centric show and it features older women who hold views that clearly products of the time. What do people expect from this type of show? I don't recall any Ivy League educated professors featured on it.

Additionally, I really really really doubt people in other countries care about what she said including Jews. It's typical American mentality to take ignorant comments like hers to create a faux outrage to feel superior and try to get a career destroyed. Witch hunts never left. This is a non-issue compared to actual antisemitic shit said by Kanye West and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Let's not pretend the KKK and Neo Nazis who are leading racist attacks aren't mainly white. Most antisemitic attacks are done by white men.

R82, that's a great idea.

Has Whoopi been romantically linked to someone since Ted Danson?

R84, herself. "learning to love yourself....is the greatest love of all!".

To me, an elderly white gay man, it seems like a big to-do over nothing. It's as if someone or some group is trying their hardest to make it far more than it is for some ulterior motive(s). But it is the TV/movie industry, possibly the dirtiest industry that ever existed.

If she isn't racist, then why does she only date white men?

I have two points: 1. I always thought she was a big ole' dyke and the Ted Danzen thing was just a one-off and 2. I also think it's not a big deal, she's just ignorant about Nazi history.

I don't think she should be cancelled but she is absolutely dumb for making the comments she made.

Maybe she wants to be on the outs with TJ Holmes?

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The Whoopster is always getting in trouble once a year for something.

[Quote]If she isn't racist, then why does she only date white men?

because she's a dyke and Ted Danson and Frank Langella were about publicity and cover

She's not going to be fired or reprimanded by ABC. She didn't say this on 'The View', she didn't say this during an ABC interview - it was with an overseas tabloid. ABC doesn't care. This won't even be discussed on 'The View' when they return next week.

BREAKING = Whoopi Shares her SECOND apology of the year = "STILL learning..Loves Jews...blah blah"....

she ought to learn to keep her mouth shut.

Never tell a black woman what racism is.

Never tell a black woman to shut up.

Whop is a tired old postmenopausal hag, time for the network to say bye bye .

Her big mouth just cost her an Oscar nomination for her TILL movie.

Why black celebrities cannot shut up about the Jews is something I will never understand.

R101 Because Black people don't give a shit about political correctness. It's not in our culture to censor to please the establishment. Whoopi is an old black woman too, they don't really give a shit.

then why apologize a SECOND time R102?

[quote] It gets established in every single one of these threads that there is great debate over whether Jews are culturally considered white or not

Who gives a shit? It’s all semantics. The point is the Nazis saw the Jews as a separate race, a race to be destroyed. Whoopi is invested in the Holocaust “not being racism” because it interferes with her own oppression narrative.

Guess what? No one cares about this issue.

R104 got it right

[Quote] Whoopi is invested in the Holocaust “not being racism” because it interferes with her own oppression narrative.

Because race is taught to be exactly one thing in The US. Race as a culture is more an academic thought.

What Whoopie said comes from her own experience growing up in the US. I bet 90% of Americans wouldn’t know that Jews consider themselves a social race

Karen Johnson. Born and raised in New York. Whoopi repeatedly claimed that Goldberg was a family name, that she was Jewish. I snickered when Henry Gates did the deep dive into her genealogy, and did a DNA test, that revealed no Jewish genetics and 100% African DNA.

Of course she’s simply stupid. An ignorant person with a loud mouth and an audience. Impervious to learning, so the “I have a lot to learn” apologies are just dumb. Take away her audience? Sure, why not?

In Whoopi's world, if you divide 1940s blacks and whites, there would be no Nazis in the black group.

Just that simple a difference of perspective.

Whoopi issues new groveling statement

I am a person that experienced racism firsthand growing up caucasian in Hawaii. It was scary and it WAS overt racism.

Be scared haole.

She's apologizing because she knows her career is in jeopardy, the bitch is in her 60s or 70s and still needs educated? Either she's dumb as fuck or just plain ignorant.

Anything you say about the Holocaust except "wasn't it terrible," is attacked Jonathan Greenblatt at the ADL. That's what keeps them in business.

I would like to remind the panel that the Whoopster was always in warm water for defending Mel Gibson on the View all the time.

Perhaps this explains that

[quote] Because Black people don't give a shit about political correctness.

If a Jewish celebrity said "slavery ultimately wasn't about racism, it was about evil", the reaction by black people wouldn't be so "politically correct".

Whoopi backs any white man, Mel could've literally shot a Jewish person while screaming antisemitic slurs and Whoopi would've excused it.

[quote] Guess what? No one cares about this issue.

Guess what? Jews do.

Guess what? Blacks do, too.

Whoopi is a snob. If you have won an Oscar, you're in. If you're an EGOTer, she will worship the ground you walk upon. If you're black, you're in. If you're a chef and she's hungry, your food is in (her mouth at least). Everyone else can just plain drop dead. She won't give you the time of day. I see this Monday through Thursday, week in, week out on The View. I like the show, I just question the lead. She is an insufferable, obnoxious snob and she doesn't give a shit about publically, loudly rubbing this all into your damn face.

Then just watch the Whoopi-free Fridays.

Joy is a...joy.