Joan Crawford's sexuality

I think Joan, like any slut, just fucked for sport.

Straight and a narcissist.

R2 = doesn't know what straight means.

R3 Okay is there any confirmation that she fucked women? I read a biography of her and there was no mention of that.

Are you thinking of Katharine Hepburn?

Will add that the author of the biography seemed like a gay man and yet nothing.. She married FOUR men. You don't have that kind of messy love life if you aren't straight in my opinion.

The OP is the same delusional queen who thinks Ursula and Vivien were intimate.

[quote] You don't have that kind of messy love life if you aren't straight in my opinion.

What do you mean? I'm trying to paraphrase that sentence into something which has a meaning.

Well she fucked her daughter's nanny for once.

R8 Ok I did not phrase that well. Marrying 4 men at the least suggests that she was more into men than women. But regardless, I don't see anything that says she wasn't pretty much straight. I know it's hard for DL to accept but in the real world at least 90% of people are straight.

What R5 said.

R9 [QUOTE]Well she fucked her daughter's nanny for once.

Evidence for that? Did the nanny tell someone? Why wasn't that in the biography I read about Crawford?

Here

The woman a monster. Who cares? She stuck her own son’s hand in the fireplace because she caught him playing with matches.

Crawford soon developed a reputation for unbounded sensuality…and not always in a good way. When she was in her 30s, Crawford even seduced the teenage star Jackie Cooper, and she had some pretty strange bedroom habits. As Cooper recalled, “She would bathe me, powder me, cologne me. Then she would do it all over again.”

Joan and Jackie Cooper.

Jackie Cooper was male if anyone was wondering (I had to look it up).

[quote]She stuck her own son’s hand in the fireplace because she caught him playing with matches.

I bet he never played with matches again.

Dick pig, but not immune to the charms of pussy

R16 didn’t know she had cankles. How tall was she?

[quote]Joan Crawford's sexuality

is the last thing anyone should be thinking about on my birthday.

She definitely had sex with Marilyn Monroe. It's on the tape, a talk between Marilyn and her psychiatrist. Marilyn didn't like it but Joan wanted to do it again.

R21 Hey, Christmas is over, over here.

Joan had better taste with Jackie Cooper than Norma had with Mickey Rooney.

It's too bad Joan passed away before she could star as Ma Kent in Superman because then she and Jackie Cooper would have shared a movie.

R22 do you have a reputable link?

She was around 5'4". You'll hear different heights for her but they are all in that same range, and she was definitely under 5'5". But the heels and height of her hair, plus her excellent posture, gave her the bearing of someone taller.

Joan loved the D and was ready to take it most anytime, even when she was older.

Sorry R22, that Marilyn story is an urban myth that has just been repeated. There is no physical evidence backing it up. Not the tape itself, nor written notes from the psychiatrist about the session. All it is, is someone who knew the psychiatrist saying "Marilyn's psychiatrist let me hear the tape and this is what it said."

She always struck me as one of those people who didn't particularly enjoy sex, but who used sex to get what they wanted. Like she didn't want the physical pleasure of sex (if any) or the intimacy with another person, but she wanted transactional gains, or attention, or ego, or to feel beautiful, or to assure herself that she could make other people dance to her tune. I suspect that some top actresses are like that, to them sex doesn't mean pleasure or intimacy, it means power.

And of course in her day, there was a lot more to be gained from fucking men than fucking women.

[quote] do you have a reputable link?

No one in this thread has a reputable link. There are even less in this shambles of a thread—

I think it lies somewhere in the middle of what R27 wrote. I think she learned from a young age that she could trade sex for power, but at some point discovered that she actually liked fucking.

Her daughter Christina confirmed Crawford's bisexuality saying,

"I understand that, of course I was very young. But I understand that, yes. In those days, people didn’t come out of the closet. Everybody knew it, but it wasn’t public information... I think she was bisexual. That’s what I think"

OP, don't drink and post, son.

Bette Davis’s assistant confirmed that Bette hated Joan in part because Joan came on to her.

[quote]Her daughter Christina confirmed Crawford's bisexuality

If Christina said it, it was probably a lie or a grift.

Bette and Joan both had ungrateful children.

R32 Why would you hate someone for coming onto you? I mean ok if they won't take no for an answer but?

R31 seriously. It's a bunch of word salad.

R33 = Casey LaLonde, Christina's fat nephew

lesbian.

thousands of fraus that watched Mommie Dearest and relates to Christina can't be wrong...

"Why would you hate someone for coming onto you? "

R35, it was such a homophobic era that homophobia was encoded into law, custom, and medical practice. And in a homophobic society, if a gay person hit on a straight one, the straight person was not only likely to be outraged that someone they thought they knew was not only a "pervert", but they'd probably scream "You thought I was one of THOSE!".

If Crawford ever hit on Davis (hah!) it would have been in the early 30s, when Crawford was a big star and Davis was just starting out, and Davis was in a position where fucking the right people would have helped her career, but she was too prudish to go there. So I really doubt that Crawford would hit on a minor actress who wasn't in a position to do anything for Crawford, IMHO it's more likely that Davis resented women who fucked their way up and around, as Crawford did.

So are we pretending that Davis didn't fuck around? Because she was no stranger to cock, either.

Joan had well developed neck muscles in her early days, from the sheer amount of dick she sucked to get a leg up. She licked pussy on her off days.

Did Davis fuck around when she was young, R40? She later claimed she lost her virginity on her wedding night at age 22, and of course when she was young she'd have actually had the chutzpah to believe that she could storm Hollywood with talent alone. Sometimes women can take a surprisingly long time to get to their grips with sex and their own sexuality, so I consider it possible that Davis missed out on some prime years of fucking.

Of course she didn't fuck around when she was old, but that wasn't her idea. It was everyone else's.

Sorry, I was drunk when I started this thread.

R39 Bette was signed with Warner Brothers by the early 30s. Joan had been with MGM since 1925. Under the studio system actors/actresses were under contract and had very little power. Transactional sex would not have been to either one’s benefit, not only because they were at competing studios, but they had no power to produce films or hire talent. If there was any resentment, it might have been because Joan was seen as a studio creation and not a ‘real’ actress. Bette and others were classically trained stage actors who were considered to have paid their dues. Joan’s entire being practically from her movie star persona to her name was mostly fake. Joan herself came to embody the manufactured ingenue through sheer willpower. This probably explains some of her mental issues and OCD. She desperately had to BE Joan Crawford lest the horrifying abuse and ugliness of the Lucille LeSueur/Billie Cassin years returns.

"...but did she prefered women or men? Did she dated men..."

That's still no excuse R43/OP.

She never sucked my cock.

bipolar and hypersexual is my bet

Silly question. Bi = love boths

She was an exceptional mother