Whoopi at it again with her anti-Semitism

She really has to go.

More Stormer “visitors” sowing division. Do something constructive with your sadness about Hair Furor. I think a re-education camp would do wonders. You could do Vlad’s work at the Gulag that hosted Britney G. Go ahead, try it! You’ll have more success there than here.

OP just wants to attack a black woman. If you freepers cared about anti-semitism, you'd expel Marjorie Taylor Greene from your party

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You guys don't give a shit about anti-Semitism. Get real here. Jews are not a race. Most Jews even tell you it's a religious and ethnic identity, not a racial one. The Nazis seeing Jews a separate race was stupid because they had stupid beliefs. They also thought Aryans were Nordics (when Aryan meant Indo-Aryan like Persia) and that blond, blue-eyed people were a superior race even though most Germans have dark hair and brown eyes.

[quote] The Nazis seeing Jews a separate race was stupid because they had stupid beliefs.

The Nazis saw Jews exactly as what Europe saw Jews, vermin to be exterminated, based on two millennia of Catholic/Protestant church fomented Jew hatred. Goldberg running her ignorant, ugly mouth on Jews is simply more of the same.

She hails from the San Francisco Goldbergs, so it's okay.

R6 Okay, they're still not a race though. That was religious and ethnic discrimination similar to how Muslims and Romanis were also treated at the same time in Europe. You need to remember before the colonization of the Americas, nobody had these concrete ideas of "white", "black", "Mediterranean race", "Nordic race", "Semitic race", etc. All of these were cemented in the 1700s and 1800s to further justification colonization of the New World and it spread back to Europe and influenced the Nazi Party to help strengthen the already existing prejudices.

[quote] That was religious and ethnic discrimination similar to how Muslims and Romanis were also treated at the same time in Europe.

No, Muslims and gypsys were not "treated the same". The treatment of Jews in Europe - discrimination, persecution and pogroms - was socio-culturally entrenched long before Muslims and gypsys arrived and continues to this day.

[quote] All of these were cemented in the 1700s and 1800s to further justification colonization of the New World and it spread back to Europe and influenced the Nazi Party to help strengthen the already existing prejudices.

Rubbish! The Nazis did not require the "influence of foreign prejudices" when those prejudices had been extant in Europe for two millennia.

Thank you Muriel!

Why does she want to rewrite history so badly?

Whoopi we need to chow down on some matzo balls and talk!

I think it's hilarious that Whoopi is using the US census as evidence to prove her point when the Holocaust wasn't even in the US. This is like showing up to take a test on Latin America history with notes on China.

they aint fired her fat turdie ass yet ?????

Whoopi is only 67??? She looks so haggard and wretched that I really thought she was in her 80s.

I don't think people "accidentally" post duplicate threads like these, I think someone goes out of their way to post it multiple times in hopes of spreading their trolling further.

Whoopi is a fucking phony, then. She's an Antisemitic cunt: an ugly, old, Antisemitic cunt All these years she had me fooled about her character. Oh well.

I am a gay WOMAN, lesbians can be called gay too, and I have watched the View off and on for years. (BTW, if this site was intended for only GAY MWMEN, then it should be specified in the site's header/link. Don't assume that only gay men and trannies and straight hags are using this site.)

No more. To Hell with her. She isn't really funny anyways. If she's fired, I'll keep watching the show, but not otherwise. Antisemitism is NOT OKAY, NOT UNDERSTANDABLE, NOT IGNORABLE.

The movie studio bosses must love that instead of doing promotion for her new movie "Emmett Till" this old bag instead chose to fire off a new round of anti-Semitic remarks.

“Race” is a concept the definition of which changes according to context and over time. Racism is an ideology utilizing a concept of race to argue that one or more groups of people are superior to one or more other groups. The form that takes has varied over time and by context. Nazism was a racist ideology and its treatment of Jews was racist in that sense. Whoopi should be fighting racism in all its forms. I think she’s actually perpetuating it here, primarily because she’s not very intelligent or educated. It’s time for her to retire. She’s had a long run but she’s embarrassing herself now and is somewhat harmful.

R19 +1 race isn't real skin color use like hair color a trait and we don't call redheads a different race.

To the right wing Jew obsessed cunts Jews are inferior to the Aryan race.

To the left wing Jew obsessed cunts Jews are the establishment, white elite supremacists who oppress blacks.

I'm German and her stance disgusts me. What an obviously bad take.

She had the last thread cancelled, no doubt she has her very Jewish lawyers ironically calling the site to cancel this one as well.

What a nasty POS! Nothing worse than uneducated, self centered and ignorant celebrities.

I hope the producers finally give her the boot. It's long overdue!!

“Race” is nonsense science, even more insidious than “gender.”

I'll cut Goldberg some slack here. What we have here is something that was white on white violence, but set within a fanatically racialised context. The "otherness" of Jews is a not too thinly veiled announcement of inherent difference, and that speaks to racialised perception.

It wasn't that long ago that you could find here in Britain more than a few mummified Englishmen who considered the Welsh a separate race . . . Never mind the Irish.

I don't see why both approaches cannot sit comfortably alongside each other in this matter.

I think also that it's important that they be seen alongside each other, because it reminds us of how we make it easier for ourselves to do horrible things to each other.

Goldberg just didn't do a great job of on the nuances.

Why did the original Whoopi thread get deleted?

fat flat ass rosie o donnell demanded it be removed.

People really saying Romanis weren't treated as badly in Europe? They were outcasts in India and ended up migrating into Europe where they were basically treated slaves, were killed and beaten for false allegations, chased out of towns and not allowed to assimilate there for centuries. Gypsy is a slur that is still casually used. Why does everything think Europeans only hated Jews? The Inquisition also affected Muslims. This all seems like ethnic, religious and tribal discrimination. Race came from North American colonial context. Whoopi is American and biased to her perspective. But none of this is a real issue and you all just want to hate on black people and ignore that most antisemites are white Americans.

I will never understand how some people jump to the conclusion that Whoopi is anti-Semitic because she says that Jewish People are white. She has never denied that the Holocaust happened. She has never said that Jewish people weren't killed. She is not saying that Hitler was a great guy. And we know she doesn't hate Jewish people. Her basic point is, it was white people killing other white people because of ancient religious craziness.

To some, it might be a flawed or simplistic view of what happened, but it's not anti-Semitic.

[quote]Why does everything think Europeans only hated Jews?

No one thinks that.

Anyone with a basic knowledge of events knows the Holocaust was about the extermination of Jews. There were other groups targeted by the Nazis but they weren’t the main focus of the industrial scale killing machine.

[quote]I will never understand how some people jump to the conclusion that Whoopi is anti-Semitic because she says that Jewish People are white.

You refuse to listen when people tell you something you don’t want to hear.

[quote] The Inquisition also affected Muslims.

Who headed right back across the Mediterranean to their homes in North Africa, where they were no longer at the whim of the Xtian majority. Something that Jews were not able to do.

[quote] But none of this is a real issue and you all just want to hate on black people and ignore that most antisemites are white Americans.

Jew hatred is as entrenched in the black community as it is in the white community. Blacks are rewarded by the white community for their Jew hatred. In Jew hatred, the black community has finally achieved equality with the white community.

[quote] Her basic point is, it was white people killing other white people because of ancient religious craziness.

R30 Jews are a nation persecuted and murdered by other nations for almost 2,000 years. Jews lived segregated, wretched lives as a despised minority in someone else’s land, locked in ghettoes, discriminated against, demonized and persecuted, culminating in genocide, the Holocaust. Goldberg displays deplorable ignorance and racism, belittling/dismissing centuries of persecution and extermination of Jews as nothing more than “religious craziness”.

R34- Absolutely. Jewish discrimination is entrenched in history.

All this proves is religion has no place in modern society and creates hatred and division. I don't think as long as Abrahamic faiths exist, we will have peace

[quote]Absolutely. Jewish discrimination is entrenched in history.

And Whoopi never said that it wasn't.

R37 Because she is ignorant of that fact, therefore made no comment.

You just know ABC loves this!

[quote] All this proves is religion has no place in modern society

R36 All this proves is that reducing the Holocaust to a "religious conflict" displays woeful ignorance the Holocaust, the history of the Jews in Europe and what constitutes identity in Europe.

Keep in mind. White Americans enslaved other white people. Indentured servants were basically slaves. Poor whites worked as sharecroppers and were overworked abused too. You had one-drop rule that concluded people even with blond hair, blue eyes and pink white could be enslaved and seen as black if they had matrilineal African descent. So basically white slaves. Sicilians, Southern Italians, Irish, Greeks and Polish were treated like shit when they immigrated to the Americas and often worked blue-collar jobs and were underpaid and beaten.

I think Whoopi is making the point. White people treat each other like a garbage. Whoopi has defended white people like Ted Danson. But she's also defended black people for not having conventional views. I think Whoopi is just on her own side of things. She's not really ideological

R40 Judaism isn't a religion now? Well okay. Most religions are tied to ethnicity. It was a religious and a ethnic conflict. Those are not divorced. Who is denying the 2000 years of oppression? Nobody. But you're projecting and trying to create drama that isn't there. Nothing she said is antisemitic and it's a real distraction from actual issues.

[quote]Keep in mind. White Americans enslaved other white people.

Hell, they enslaved their own children.

[quote]Her basic point is, it was white people killing other white people because of ancient religious craziness.

You know atheist Jews were murdered alongside orthodox Jews?

[quote] Judaism isn't a religion now?

R42 Only in the US are Jews relegated to a "religion". The rest of the world considers Jews as a unique national identity/culture. Therefore, assertions about "religion" or "religious conflicts" are products of ignorance.

[quote] But you're projecting and trying to create drama that isn't there. Nothing she said is antisemitic and it's a real distraction from actual issues.

Goldberg "created drama" through her complete ignorance. And she continues to do so. Any sensible person would have to question why.

R65 You ignore I also said it was also an ethnicity and that religions are usually tied to ethnicity. Great comprehension skills.

[quote]You know atheist Jews were murdered alongside orthodox Jews?

Some of you have decided to have an argument that no one else is having.

R46 National identity and belief are intrinsic to one another. Only in America can you call yourself American without subscribing to a specific belief. In the rest of the world, you are considered a member of that nation solely if you are also a member of the national belief system. In France, if you're not Catholic, you're not considered French. If Muslim counties, if you're not Muslim, you're not considered Egyptian or Moroccan, etc.

Goldberg continues to reduce genocide of a nation to a simple racial or belief conflict. Once again, once has to ask why.

Sikhs, Shinto, Hindus, Samaritans and others are ethnic religions similar to Judaism. Most ethnic groups have their own religion. Christianity and Islam are universalist monotheistic religions that forced themselves on large regions and destroyed many ethnic indigenous faiths that were usually polytheistic or modalist.

R48 WTF? Most Europeans are not religious and nationality is a very, very recent concept born out of European imperialism that caused many independent kingdoms to merge into nation states and establish borders. That's how Christianity became state religions as well as a unifying force. Now ethnicity always existed and many ethnic groups define themselves by their religion. Nationalities are often forced by the sword and pushed different groups under one ruling class. Tell a Coptic Christian, they aren't Egyptian or an Indian Muslim, they aren't Indian.

I have no skin in the game. But religious garbage taking out religious garbage and vice versa can only be a good thing for the world.

R48 I'm happy America isn't a theocracy and most people here don't care about religion and there's no religious wars like in Africa and Asia.

If "most people here don't care about religion," how does the GOP have such a large voting base? I know Republican didn't used to be a religious party, but it's become one.

[quote] Most Europeans are not religious and nationality is a very, very recent concept born out of European imperialism

Whether Europeans are "religious" or not has nothing to do with national identity. Same with the concept of "nation". Call it nation or tribes, it's still signifies the identity of the collective.

[quote] Tell a Coptic Christian, they aren't Egyptian or an Indian Muslim, they aren't Indian.

It's not what the individual thinks but what society as a whole thinks. Copic Xtians know very well that they are not considered Egyptian, just as Muslims in India will refer to themselves first as Muslim and then maybe Indian. Muslims in France refer to themselves as Muslims, Algerians or Morrocans because to them French are Catholics.

[quote]I have no skin in the game. But religious garbage taking out religious garbage and vice versa can only be a good thing for the world.

And we have someone supporting genocide!

Now is this far right or far left? MTG or AOC?

Brentwood is not a city, it’s a neighborhood in Los Angeles.

Sorry, wrong thread^

She should die already...

R54, this is not true. I'm South Asian and Muslims in India take great pride in being known as Indians first, Muslims second. If they wanted to be known as Muslims first, they would have gone to Pakistan. They stayed in India because they see it as their mother country and are very patriotic. Even the expatriates who live overseas feel more allegiance with other Indians than non-Indian Muslims.

I'll never forget that View episode of Whoopi and the the other lemmings swooning over Ted Danson. Ted Danson is not hot.

These closet TV lesbians always overdo it in this area. Think Rosie swooning over Tammy Cruise.

[quote]What we have here is something that was white on white violence,

You're out of your fųcking mind! Anybody who has ever seen Nazi propaganda posters depicting Jews, knows Jews were not 'white people' to Nazis.

[quote]Her basic point is, it was white people killing other white people because of ancient religious craziness.

Her point is ignorant and utterly misinformed! Jews to Nazis were a brown skinned, ugly race that had no place in Arian Germany. Religious differences were not the driving force. Hitler was not a devout Catholic, he actually preferred Islam, because he admired the radical nature of it. He described Christianity as 'too meek'.

R62 is correct. Why is Whoopi inserting her purely modern American perspective into this scenario? The issue is how Nazis in Europe viewed race. Not modern Americans.

How would she like it if Europeans redefined how race was viewed in America? This whole episode has only spotlighted Whoopi's lack of intelligence and awareness.

R36 Yes, Stalin absolutely proved that if you simply remove religion from the equation, everything goes beautifully. Was Pol Pot a subscriber to Abrahamic religion? Remind me. Then there's the internecine slaughter amongst African sects ... Oh, that must be another exception that proves your theory.

And the history of mutual cultural antipathy and the urge to slaughter and conquer in the Far East where those Abrahamic religions didn't exist : why, figments of the imagination!

Up.yours. Pogo put it best: "We have met the enemy and he is us."

R64, don't you understand that to have peace we need to annihilate all followers of Abrahamic religions according to R36.

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R48 I'm European and what you say is bullshit. Religion is something you don't talk about in a work environment for example as there is kind of a common ground that religion is everyone's private business. Exceptions prove the rule.

R48/R54 is a hack who probably got his schooling from Whoopi's brand of twisted logic and touts about global cultures when he probably hasn't ever left his mommy's basement. Clearly hates religion probably because he was so ugly and undesirable that even the Catholic priests wouldn't fiddle with his doodle and that made him feel left out and not like other boys.

[quote]Muslims in France refer to themselves as Muslims, Algerians or Morrocans because to them French are Catholics.

Muslims dislike anybody who isn't Muslim, including irreligious people, they consider Islam as absolute. France does not recognize any official religion, it is literally a secular country.