Jeremy Clarkson column about Meghan sparks tide of criticism

All of this hate from the British Tabloid Rag Media just keeps proving Harry and Meghan right.

Mein Lord Protector.

As much as I hate The. Anus Horibilis,they are laying on a bit too thick. The cunts in The UK have riding inflation,Brexit being a disaster,doctors and nurses strikes looming and the country is going to hell BUT it is Princess Markle's fault. Yes Markle is a whiny fraud but the Brits are acting like whiny frauds in return.

This is not the same thread as that one, R2.

In this one, he was FORCED to make an apology.

And people wonder why Harry and Meghan are calling the Brits racist?

[quote] As much as I hate The. Anus Horibilis,they are laying on a bit too thick.

Who are you talking about? the annus horribilis was Elizabeth II's famous reference in a speech to the year 1992, but you seem to mean someone else.

I don't get the obsession with using these weird nicknames.

Is this Kelly’s Dad?

It's Kelly's dad and Patricia's husband, r7.

As I said in another thread, this was awful but it doesn't change the fact that Meghan told the 96 yr old Queen that she didn't own the word royal and then lectured the 96 yr old Queen on service being universal, and then went forward with an Oprah attack on the family despite the fact that Prince Philip lay in a hospital bed dying.

Other people's bad behavior won't distract from Megan's. She's still accountable for her own actions and the things listed above were grossly immature, unkind, and arrogant. Yes, a shadowy force may be attacking H&M behind closed doors but how are they any different attacking the family out in the open? I don't see them as being righteous here.

Also, if the stress of the media can kill Harry's unborn child, then logic would follow it could kill his ailing grandfather and grandmother. They are all awful, but Meghan and Harry are the only one's shoving it in our faces that they are a perfect, victim love story.

Thread created by the Sussex stinkfish. Beware.

The head of IPSO recieved 12000 complaints so far. He is supposed to be neutral. It was outed that he allegedly was going to be hosted at Rupert Murdochs London flat at a nice cosy dinner after the article debuted. So this week. The sun which printed Clarks article is owned by Murdoch. Corruption.

It was an opinion column, r11M-anon.

I get the point he was trying to make but in typical Clarkson fashion he does it in the most offensive manner. Unfortunately, it’s people like Clarkson who lend credibility to the accusations. Not sure why the Sun didn’t send it back to Clarkson with an editor’s note to tone it down.

Also, Camilla might want her people to vet engagements a bit better. Being seen buddying up to Piers and Clarkson at someone’s private party isn’t the best look for a new Queen who doesn’t have the same level of support as Lizzie did.

Statements published by the British Tabloids, like this one by Clarkson, just feed into the Sussex's narrative as to why they had to vacate the UK for the USA.

Oh I don't know r13. Camilla hanging around with the "wrong" sort at some stupid party seems the kind of thing that Buckingham Palace goes into hysterics about but nobody else really gives a shit, ever.

Hateful, ugly, mean, nasty, vile British racist fucks.

Is this a surprise?

Not at all.

Meghan and Harry were completely right about them.

Camilla does seem to have a taste for sleazy, gossipy people. So did Diana.

[quote]Oh I don't know [R13]. Camilla hanging around with the "wrong" sort at some stupid party seems the kind of thing that Buckingham Palace goes into hysterics about but nobody else really gives a shit, ever.

Yeah…no. Photos and videos are starting to come out. And the media is making a point to cover them.

It’s not a good look. As the saying goes…show me your friends and I’ll tell you who you are.

Unclutch, R18. Camilla is the queen, she speaks to a lot of people. That doesn’t mean she signs off on all their behavior.

Yeah, I'm sure Camilla will be fine. As I say, there will be hysterics, and what would the palace be if it weren't in a constant state of panic and horror, and then it will all drift away.

[quote] Camilla is the queen, she speaks to a lot of people. That doesn’t mean she signs off on all their behavior.

She is consorting with a man who said that her daughter-in-law should be stripped naked and have shit hurled at her.

If this were ANYONE ELSE but biracial Meghan, Camilla AND Clarkson would be condemned, and shunned by the British tabloid rags and public.

But because Meghan is black, it's okay not only for Camilla's friends to say such things, but for her to associate with them as well.

With no repercussions.

Give me a fucking break, you goddamned hypocrites.

Just imagine if Clarkson said the same thing about Waity Katie, and Camilla was seen hob-nobbing with him a few days later.

Would that be okay, too?

Fucking racist CUNT BAGS.

[quote]Unclutch, [R18]. Camilla is the queen, she speaks to a lot of people. That doesn’t mean she signs off on all their behavior.

Get your head out of Camilla’s ass, r19. How many misogynists and racists do you pal around with, r19? Me…none…and I’m not a public figure. This wasn’t Clarkson’s first slip-up. He was fired from the BBC for being a vile creature. Again, show me your friends…

Don’t like Meghan at all, but Clarkson is a cunt who should be more concerned with his own numerous personal failings

[quote] She is consorting with a man who said that her daughter-in-law should be stripped naked and have shit hurled at her.

The party was Thursday or Friday, and the column came out in the Sunday paper. Does Camilla have ESP?

But carry on avoiding reality.

R22, He was referring to a scene from the TV program, Game of Thrones. So, by your logic, any time a person criticizes a Black person, it's racist. No, your stance is racist, r22.

You can't win with these Meghan loons. She's got you all right where she wants you. With blinders on.

No wonder the Brits age so poorly. There's a lot of racism & bottling of hate over there. America is definitely not perfect, but a lot of the racist shit that happens here in the U.S. comes straight from the U.K.

And Clarkson looks awful in the photo at the op. That's most Brits tho. That's what British racism does to people. I guess their hatred of Meghan only lit a fire under and made it worse.

Get it together Brits. Hate does not look good on you all as a country. It shows on your faces.

[quote]Unclutch, [R18]. Camilla is the queen, she speaks to a lot of people. That doesn’t mean she signs off on all their behavior.

But it sure as fuck adds credibility to the Harkle's claims of the BRF and the tabloids being in bed with each other.

But keep trying to spin this unspinnable PR disaster. It's amusing.

[quote]The party was Thursday or Friday, and the column came out in the Sunday paper. Does Camilla have ESP?

[quote]So, by your logic, any time a person criticizes a Black person, it's racist. No, your stance is racist, [R22].

Jeremy Clarkson’s racism, misogyny and anger management problems go back to well before Meghan came on the scene. And, it’s funny how the likes of r25 skips over the part of my post that noted he was fired from the BBC for being his vile self. And Piers Morgan is…well, loathed.

You’d think that for a family with associations that are already being side eyed (cough **Jimmy Saville** cough **Jeffrey Epstein**) and being the head of state of a nation that is going through austere times that those in charge of the family’s social calendar would have told Camilla that she might want to skip the posh parties this year and to take better care with who she pals around with.

It’s as if Boris Johnson is advising C&C on social matters.

The same person has been spewing comment after comment about this for over twelve hours.

Who, r29?

R26 that's misogyny not racism, you idiot. Cersei was white.

You sound triggered, R29. Eat a cookie, you'll feel better.

My grandmother & parents insist that this man is a worthy writer & columnist. They're wrong, they're stupid and backwards, they think newspapers these days are worth the paper they're printed on.

No, Clarkson actually isn't "telling it like it is", and "blending humour with reality". He's not some satirist taking on the Man. He is one of the Men, and he's a prig and a windbag and he can't write for absolute shit. He shouldn't have a job that involves his written 'work' seeing publication or print. Plus he's genuinely clinically ugly, like a Skeksis--you know that body is hiding some reprehensible secrets. Go back to blowing up caravans or whatever it is you do, you bloviating bullying bore.

Camilla is wearing a Blackamoor Brooch under her lapel.

Clarkson is a cunt. But, Meghan is an even bigger one.

He took it from the Game of Thrones series. Cersei? I think that's the name of the disgraced royal forced to walk through town, in daytime, totally nude while people threw crap at her. Before that, they gave her a man's haircut.

[quote] No wonder the Brits age so poorly. There's a lot of racism & bottling of hate over there. America is definitely not perfect, but a lot of the racist shit that happens here in the U.S. comes straight from the U.K.

Oh, great, the anti-Brit troll is back. Listen, for all Britain’s many failings, racism is not a patch on the USA—it’s barely an issue here, while the US is utterly consumed by it…and hardly surprising when you have police going about murdering black people.

Not in any way r1. He's right. I'd bet if you poll Americans they will agree. She's LOATHED for her bullying, and this is what she deserves.

Don’t BS us, r37. British chauvinism is greater than American racism. Brits are so xenophobic you sabotaged your own economy by voting for Brexit because you were scared of the Polish.

He was only horrified at the backlash he got. He wasn't horrified by what he said.

And that piece of shit, prime minister completely changed the subject when asked about this.

And of course jeremy clarkson was put up to this by camilla. She was at a lunch party with him thrown by the tabloid, The Sun, which has been her favourite tabloid to go to stir up trouble since 1983. Diana and charles played the press and so did camilla.

Most of the British press isn't even reporting on this. They put a little tiny article out about it and it's not even on the front page of their website. You have to search their website for it

camilla and charles have had their celeb friends bashing Harry & Meghan every chance they get. Joanna Lumley, billy connolly, jeremy clarkson and others.

Joanna Lumley who is close friends with camilla goes out every week and gives an interview (even though she doesn't have any projects lined up) and bashes H & M. That old cunt

[quote]Camilla does seem to have a taste for sleazy, gossipy people. So did Diana.

She was no different from Diana or charles, for that matter. Richard Kay at the Daily Mail was Diana's go to guy. Camilla had Arthur Edwards at the Sun (and people at the Express) and charles had people at the Times and some other papers pushing his side of the story.

Camilla was no better than Diana. The entire press knew charles was cheating and they continued to gaslite Diana by printing Charles & camilla's lies that they were "nothing more than good friends, and Princess Diana was in the late stages of paranoia and should be sent to a mental institution and have her sons taken away from her"

Everything Diana said was true. She wasn't imagining a single thing. And she took that gaslighting and abuse for 17 years.

The same press William is cooperating with in exchange for the press forgetting all about his affair with Rose. He and his wife haven't said a word about this. None of the royals have. It's like nothing was said by jeremy clarkson

He's a dumbass for giving her grist for her victim mill.

And if the BRF is so fucking racist, why doesn't she reject her title?

[quote]All of this hate from the British Tabloid Rag Media just keeps proving Harry and Meghan right.

R1, Amen to that.

R42, hi Harry! Haven't you got anything better to do? Like taking your kids for a walk or stuff like that.

R45, Hi William!

Glamour magazine is already calling out Camilla for attending a lunch with men who have "harassed Meghan Markle."

They've got your number Camilla!

Meghan and Harry are cunts but Clarkson went too far. Now Meghan can grab this new thing and bitch about it for the next decade.

Camilla attended a lunch with people who support Harry and Meghan, too.

R47 picture - god that hag is a monster.

[quote]this was awful but it doesn't change the fact that Meghan told the 96 yr old Queen that she didn't own the word royal and then

Oh my god SHUT THE FUCK UP.

There is no excuse for a newspaper, even a shitty tabloid like your beloved Sun, to publish a man's fantasy about stripping some woman naked and dragging her through the streets while people pelted feces at her. None of your petulant "but she's ruuude" stories have any bearing on this.

Anyone who reacts in this way to someone they have never met and whose behavior has no bearing on their life is in legitimate need of help. Clarkson may have simply said this just because he's an asshole who wants attention and doesn't truly believe it, but all the overbaked frauen on DL who excuse it and agree with it are behaving in an astonishingly abnormal way.

You and your kind have dragged DL down to a level where trolls routinely talk about killing various women, black people and trans people that they dislike, which is why you're here -- you couldn't say this shit on Reddit or Twitter without getting banned again -- but the truth is that Clarkson's essay was far beyond the bounds of normal society. You're just so far beyond the bounds of normal society yourself that you don't realize it.

The Meghanstans can’t get their timeline straight. But not to worry!

If the party was held AFTER Clarkson's unhinged opinion piece was published, then r18 thinks it’s just “not a good look” for Camilla to consort with deplorables. If the party was held BEFORE Clarkson's piece came out, then r40 sez she “put him up” to writing it.

That's the beauty of playing the poor oppressed victim card the way Megs does—no matter what the facts are, or when things did or didn’t happen, Megs is always being horribly mistreated and brutally harassed.

Starting an apology like this with ‘oh dear’ equates to complete insincerity. It’s like the dozen plus connotations of the word ‘sorry’ in the UK including the one that means ‘F U’.

[quote]She is consorting with a man who said that her daughter-in-law should be stripped naked and have shit hurled at her.

[quote]If this were ANYONE ELSE but biracial Meghan, Camilla AND Clarkson would be condemned, and shunned by the British tabloid rags and public.

If an anti-monarchist had said the same thing about Camilla or Kate, there would have been mass outrage, no question.

It boggles the mind that this even happened. There was the (online mostly) dust-up about Camilla holding that little girl's arm in a weird way that made it look like she didn't want to touch her skin, then the Lady Hussey debacle. After the Hussey incident, you'd think anyone with even an ounce of sense -- especially right after the release of the Netflix documentary -- would be doubly careful about appearances, simply for the sake of PR.

Instead, you have Camilla palling around with Piers and Jeremy and other celebrities, and making sure it's portrayed in a Murdoch rag as "look at Camilla, she's just as popular as Meghan, she also has 'star power'." Then, 48 hours later, one of those celebrities published this crazy article where he fantasizes about Meghan being forced into a real-life GOT shit-throwing scene.

Either Palace PR is so incompetent that the entire team needs to be fired and replaced, or Camilla is ignoring what she's been advised and doing her own thing.

R3, those are real problems facing the British public. Harry and Meghan are a sideshow distracting -- myself included -- the lot of us.

What Clarkson wrote was misogynist, racist, disgusting, and Trumpian. It's a call for mob violence.

There is plenty to criticize about this overly privileged, entitled couple. They are a couple of clunks.

Racism is a problem in British society. So, is classism still.

But these two are a sideshow.

He's scum. Uglier inside than outside. That's saying something.

I agree that it's a culture wars sideshow, but I still don't understand why Camilla appears to be a willing participant. Why spend all the time when Queen Elizabeth was alive by either avoiding or ignoring conflict, only to immediately reverse course and start ginning it up on purpose as soon as the Queen dies? The Palace has nothing to gain by this.

There goes the same person again writing post after post screeching about Jeremy Clarkson. Say it once and move on. Looking unhinged doesn't help your argument.

Also, Charles literally walks down the streets of the UK and has eggs thrown at him. Granted, he's clothed so thats different. Andrew went down the street and people did yell shame and pedo.

Anyway, it's hard being outraged by this comment when it seems like a pretty accurate representation of the complicated historic relationship between the UK and its royalty. The elite act like asses and the masses react. Seems standard.

How is Kelly Clarkson’s dad causing all this outrage?

He’s just being honest as a Brit. They’ve freighted all their racism and xenophobic bigotry onto one very small pair of shoulders. Plain as the nose on your face.

Funniest thing is he’s sorry for the hurt it caused. What? He didn’t know that parading a person naked to be reviled and tortured would be hurtful? No, he’s not sorry about what he said in the least. He’s sorry for the backlash.

R60 don’t start trying to imply that we all share Jeremy’s vile worldview. We don’t.

As a Brit woman, I’m horrified that he’s said this in a national newspaper, and I want him struck off and fired and humiliated in his turn for it. Racist and more importantly misogynistic (women comprise half the world’s population, and occur in every racial group) invective has no place on our island. Make an example of Clarkson, I say.

Anyway, he’s always been an impoverished, hopelessly reactionary middleclass gobshite who thinks that speaking loudly and using sarcasm and acting like a relatable geezer makes him qualified to act as a Great British orator. It doesn’t. Get him gone, not before time.

And take all his undeserved $ky/Murd0ch millions of quid away as well, maybe we can prop up the NHS for a few months with it.

^^^

The reason for the backlash.

Because a man said this about a woman.

They actually all feel this way about Meghan, but the fact that a man said this about a woman, his shirt tail got caught in the wood chipper.

R62 what the fuck does it matter? It was tasteless and hostile agitprop to write for national publication, and people rightfully don’t like it. Hundreds of complaints from people with British passports (spoiler: not all of them white Anglos). That’s grounds enough.

The fact that you’re quibbling these details show exactly what your agenda is. Saaauuur desperate to level a blanket accusation of extreme racism at Brits who mostly live peacefully or at least civilly cheek by jowl with POC.

Deal with your own wh!tehooded problems, then come back and give it all the mouth.

Damn, Joanna Lumley has been bashing the Harkles? This breaks my heart, I adore her.

Society has lost all sense of kindness and decency. To wish a woman stripped naked and pelted by feces is vile.

Supposedly 'mature' man who 'writes' for a living is now 'horrified' about what he himself 'wrote.' The 'clumsy' reference and subject are irrelevant: the bullying inciting disgusting fantasy was in his head to share, and he did so for money.

He also stated he hated MM more than he hated a mass murderer. Clarkson's sewer of a mind has certainly found its level in the sheet which publishes him.

This 'writer' has also opined that he'd like to see striking workers executed in front of their families. Vile smug corrupt subhuman he is.

[quote] Supposedly 'mature' man who 'writes' for a living is now 'horrified' about what he himself 'wrote.' The 'clumsy' reference and subject are irrelevant: the bullying inciting disgusting fantasy was in his head to share, and he did so for money.

[quote] He also stated he hated MM more than he hated a mass murderer. Clarkson's sewer of a mind has certainly found its level in the sheet which publishes him.

BANG! That article at R47 nailed it.

This is Trump-level filth and bile.

Our society, has sunk to new depths.

People used to at least pretend to have a some form of decency.

But now, the right wing has gone all out in their filthy attacks against "the other side."

No low is too low for them.

[quote]The Meghanstans can’t get their timeline straight. But not to worry!

[quote]If the party was held AFTER Clarkson's unhinged opinion piece was published, then [R18] thinks it’s just “not a good look” for Camilla to consort with deplorables. If the party was held BEFORE Clarkson's piece came out, then [R40] sez she “put him up” to writing it.

R52…I’m r18 and here to tell you that you have reading comprehension issues. I never said anything about when Clarkson wrote the article. I did, however, say several times that Clarkson is long known to be a misogynist, racist and bully who was fired by the BBC years ago for being his vile self…Based on this Cammy would be wise to chose better friends and have her staff actually vet the events she attends…it’s never been a good look to be in the company of Jeremy Clarkson.

R66, what he’s horrified about is that everyone doesn’t applaud him. Anyone with a brain knows this wasn’t going to be well received. He must be living in an echo chamber of like-minded people to think this was acceptable. Like Camilla apparently.

And with right wing misogynists on the loose everywhere, this is just more piling on to the right wing’s war on women’s rights, including the right to live without having some maniac who should be in an institution, egging on random insane people to attack somebody. This is no different than what the right wingers are doing in the U.S., except in the U.S., I don’t think even a rag like the American right wing National Enquirer would publish this because it’s so vile and they could be sued. He’d have to say it on his blog.

This makes The Sun look really bad, like it’s run by some sort of sociopathic thug that’s sympathetic to violent threats. And it’s not easy to make The Sun look bad, it was never a reputable paper, but this makes it look like The Daily Stormer. Which also probably wouldn’t publish this. Too specific to one person and too much liability exposure.

[quote] This makes The Sun look really bad, like it’s run by some sort of sociopathic thug that’s sympathetic to violent threats. And it’s not easy to make The Sun look bad, it was never a reputable paper, but this makes it look like The Daily Stormer. Which also probably wouldn’t publish this. Too specific to one person and too much liability exposure.

R69 this is why the oft-bemoaned MRA/neocon line of "men can't say ANYTHING and get censored EVERYWHERE these days by wimminz and snowflake kids and libs!" just doesn't hold water when you examine reality. Apparently, disgusting old bigoted men can actually use column space in national widely-circulated free press to say whatever they want and get paid a pretty penny for the privilege.

The editor of The Sun was on the BBC's flagship Sunday morning show being so poised and righteous about how her 'paper' had not used negative briefings against H&M, as though she were in fact the editor of say, The Economist.

However she had in fact published Clarkson's disgusting fantasies, and the editor as we know bears ultimate responsibility for every word printed. She remained unavailable for comment today.

Keeping those Sun standards high for Rupert. However she's yet to be imprisoned for beating up her husband, as was the delightful former editor Rebekah Wade.

R42 the DL is not the place for your Megaloon fanfic.

r5 Would one article in the Los Angeles Times or Wall Street journal make the US a racist country? Answer-NO.

[quote] Camilla does seem to have a taste for sleazy, gossipy people. So did Diana.

At least they had friends.

Can't say that for everyone else involved in this...

The female editors in chief of The Sun prove that women can be just as misogynistic as men.

As an aside, for UK DLers, what is a centrist reputable paper I can read for free online?

R76 Independent claims to be ... independent. Grauniad is leftwing, anti-monarchist. The Times belongs to Murdoch. Telegraph is the Torygraph. Mirror used to be leftwing, don't know now. Express is the downmarket Mail. The Sun is Murdoch crap.

I don't give a shit about MM but some of her haters are so deranged and unhinged. If you don't like her just ignore her.

Block and ignore the Sussex cretin at r42.

Have it both first and secondhand that Richard Hammond is a bitch-on-wheels. Birds of a feather, and all that.

Brits really are obsessed with the royal family to a degree that’s mentally ill.

Brits really are obsessed with the royal family to a degree that’s mental illness.

He sounds like a Datalounger. Hey, maybe he is.

[quote] And people wonder why Harry and Meghan are calling the Brits racist?

How is what he said racist?

Most British men over age 50 genuinely believe deep down that women are inferior and a pestilential nuisance strain of human.

Thank fuck they’re all dying off.

R85 is adorable.

Can only imagine what Dame Judi, Dame Maggie, Dame Maureen, and Tracey Emin thought about sharing breathing space at that gruesome lunch with the slurry-pile of toxic waste that is Clarkson.

R85 you think American men don't?

Just in case anyone missed the post R9 made. It is spot on.

R88 spending a day or two on DL will disabuse that notion quickly!

Please. r89, give it a rest. All the "Meghan killed the queen" comments are from obsessives who are grasping at some kind of reason to say Clarkson's op-ed was deserved.

Serious question... Why is the Queen hanging out with Piers Morgan? To the casual observer, it seems that no one in the core family is even trying to preserve the optics of legitimacy at this point. Taking Harry and Meghan out of the equation completely, there's no substance to any of these people.

[quote] This is not the same thread as that one, [R2].

[quote] In this one, he was FORCED to make an apology.

And please DO start a third thread on a minor variation of this thread and that one. You know what they say-- you can never get enough Jeremy Clarkson and Meghan Markle.

This is a fantastic pivot for the horrible reviews of the documentary. They should thank him.

I'm surprised people didn't get the Cersei allusion. But you need the literalism of her fandom for the victimhood pivot. The most complaints they've ever received...

Yes, Clarkson is revered for the range and subtlety of his allusions. His citing of mass murderer Rose West shows precisely why his sophisticated mind is so prized by The Sun.

I guess Meghan and Harry fans don't watch GoT? I assumed there was crossover with that age group. What do you watch? The Kardashians? CBS?

.... USA evening soaps? That's it.

Joy Reid was raving yesterday about the racism of idiot Clarkson saying that about la Markle. Sugar, it's misogyny, not racism. But as black women appear to hate white women more than anything, served Cersei right!!

I always think that the attraction of black women like Joy for Markle is because it's a rare blackish woman who marries a white guy. Kinda levels the playing field given every successful black guy and celeb winds up marrying a blonde.

Jeremy Clarkson ought to go snorkeling where everyone knows sharks live.

This is the truly nutso piece someone wrote in The Guardian about being triggered by Jeremy Clarkson's article:

"It was 7pm. I finished the bedtime routine with my daughters, kissed them gently and shut the door. I took myself to the bathroom, sat on the toilet and within seconds burst into floods of tears. The physical memories of humiliation and sexual trauma from being raped when I was 21 flooded back – all because I had read an article written by Jeremy Clarkson in the Sun.

Over the years, many have spoken about Clarkson and his bigoted, contrarian opinions. It seems that in writing an article suggesting Meghan Markle ought to meet a misogynistic fate that was depicted in Game of Thrones, and be paraded down the street while people throw excrement at her, he has tripped over his own caricature. What’s worse is that many men and even some women have praised this despicable behaviour.

Many people, including a number of journalists, have defended Clarkson’s remarks on the grounds of freedom of speech. This is distorted and utterly distasteful. His remarks weren’t a joke about a popular TV show; they were hate. Language has power and satire reconfigures to serve the needs of the zeitgeist. Clarkson’s comments reminded me of the colonial, historical trauma where slave masters would print details of rapes and beatings in newspapers, condemning runaway enslaved people who had refused to conform to the rules of the plantation.

Freedom of speech is something that has wondrous power. There is beauty in the art of debate and differences of opinion. Such freedom is an essential part of democracy – but without ethics, how can we call ourselves civilised? Printing articles like this normalises violence against women. It desensitises cruelty and debases the credibility of journalism. So it’s no wonder that more than 60 MPs from different parties have written to the Sun’s editor – herself a woman – to demand an apology and that action is taken against Clarkson, or that more than 10,000 people have signed a petition I started opposing the article.

Women are sexually assaulted on a daily basis. Rape Crisis has reported that one in four women is raped or sexually assaulted as an adult; in March 2022, 70,330 rape cases were reported to the police. According to the charity, 618,000 women are raped or sexually assaulted every year. The criminal justice system consistently fails to protect us from these brutal forms of terrorism.

Violence against women doesn’t come from nowhere. It is normalised and encouraged, particularly by language such as Clarkson’s. To me, his words seemed a form of “misogynoir” – discrimination prejudice, and violence aimed specifically at women of colour. Perhaps the Sun hedged their bets on this detail, and chose to monetise hate and sensationalise violence. While Clarkson will probably enjoy protection, women who suffer violence daily do not.

What happens when this public hysteria is over? One possible legal route is making misogyny a hate crime – something that activists and politicians such as the Labour MP Stella Creasy have long campaigned for. I’d like to see Clarkson, his editor and the media held truly accountable. It’s time to question and challenge our definitions of misogyny and racism perpetuated by the press. The racism shown towards Meghan doesn’t just affect one individual: it normalises racism and violence towards women of colour in general. Surely after the past few days we need to challenge the definitions of hate crime and misogyny in the media."

What he said has NOTHING to do with rape. Is this yet another black whiny sjw?

Buckingham Palace not condemning this is yet another own goal.

Having if not the Palace or Charles himself, but “a friend close to the family” could say “a free and open press is paramount in civilised society, but we must note that the words used by Me Clarkson conjure, however ironically, distressing, misogynistic and violent imagery at odds with the best of British society as we enter into the a period of reflection during the holiday season” wouldn’t piss off their tabloid lackeys too much and would get a lot of people onside.

Because yeah, we get the GoT references, but Clarkson’s piece was a misfire aiming for aggressively irreverent and hitting creepy and sexually obsessed, and even women who loathe Meghan Markle were repulsed. What will they do if God forbid little Charlotte is the next target in a decade? Yeah, I know the Royals are at the mercy of the press for their own survival, but will keeping a schtum about this what use are they?

So women can’t call other women out for bad behavior because it’s “internalized misogyny”. Thanks for mansplaining.

It's hilarious r101. That's one of the best episodes of GoT! It's PERFECT for that raging narc bully.

I know this is way back at r43, but grist for her victim mill? He pretty much proved her point.

If the same had been said about Kate or Camilla, you just know that the Klan Grannies would have been up in arms, and foaming at the mouth like rabid dogs.

Clarkson bragged about running over foxes on purpose. Fuck Clarkson.

R105, hence the double standard. Nothing resembling those remarks would ever make it to be printed in a reputable newspaper. Ever. They can apologize after the fact, but the fact is, editors read it and allowed it to be published.

R107 The Sun also let its "journalists" hack the telephones of celebs, royals and politicians.

Keep throwing gasoline on the fire.

If it wasn't for "journalists" like Clarkson, this fued wouldn't even exist.

Whatever. The Harkles need to die in a fucking grease fire. They do nothing of value, they say nothing of value, they are not humanitarians or environmentalists. There is nothing admirable about them. They are a blank space, frantically leaping from one bandwagon to the next. They sell Harry's title, his kids, his dead mother and the rest of his family to the highest bidder. They were already millionaires the day they left the UK. They never had to sell out anyone, they wanted to "revenge" so this is what they did. They're repellent.

Their poll numbers keep dropping because the more people get to know them, the more they dislike and distrust them. They are unpleasant, immature people, the both of them.

R111. Proving the point of this entire thread.

You're a moron, R112, but please - continue worshipping at the altar of the middle-aged, talent-free, whining, spoiled Harkles.

Diana must be so proud!

Clarkson's comment is probably the worst thing I've read in any media about Meghan, and it was merely an allusion to the trial of Cersei Lannister - a VERY WHITE woman.

So, not even a hint of racism evident in the VERY worst thing I've ever heard anyone say about Meghan.

All this proves is that the hatred for Meghan has nothing to do with race.

It's semi universal, encompassing enough of the various populations of the word to easily include notorious assholes like Clarkson, yes, as well as perfectly normal and rational people who simply can't fucking stand her or her little slave. one of my dearest friend works for a charity, lives on little, and is probably one of the most genuinely kind people I've ever met, and even SHE loathes the Harkles, because they represent every bit of cynicism, greed and heartlessness that drove her to devote her life to charity in the first place.

Stop pretending it's racist to feel repulsed by the Harkles. On the contrary, it's merely human. The .0000000005% who like them are themselves cynical, greedy, and lacking in humanity. Or just hideously, tragically dumb.

^^^ populations of the world

[quote]one of my dearest friend works for a charity, lives on little, and is probably one of the most genuinely kind people I've ever met, and even SHE loathes the Harkles, because they represent every bit of cynicism, greed and heartlessness that drove her to devote her life to charity in the first place.

Tell that dried up old bat Sister Mary Anthony it may have been 35 years, and she can do all the charity work she wants, but come judgement day, she too will be judged.

One of the cynical, greedy, heartless fans of Meghan right here at r116. All Sussex Stans seem to be pure evil.

And what is her point, R104? That she was given a rough time by the British press just like every other woman (including dear, dead Di) who married into the BRF? Is that it, because they've made a six-part (yes, they think they're really that interesting) docuseries about themselves, and I still can't work out why they're upset.

They hate the media but court it relentlessly. They don't like the BRF but cling to their titles anyway. And the ceilings were too low ... or something. These two empty vessels are the most shameless famewhores going around today.

If she's criticized or her lies are called out, she plays the race card. She smeared his family as racists too despite the fact that if that were the case, Second Row Harry would never have been allowed to marry her in the first place. They thought she'd be a breath of fresh air, but she turned out to be a shart.

[quote] They thought she'd be a breath of fresh air, but she turned out to be a shart.

BINGO

The BRF were rightly VERY excited about her and welcomed her accordingly. They thought that a reinjection of African descendant blood into their line would strengthen them. They were right in thinking that, in general terms.

They weren't ever thinking that this could be an attack on them by an accomplished conwoman and her even better, smarter, and more accomplished conwoman mother. The mother is the key - to all of this.

R113–again proving the point of this thread. You’re quite good at it. Think a little…it’s not hard!

Can’t believe all of the apologists for Clarkson. What he wrote was vile, racist and inexcusable. And it appeared in a reputable newspaper. But ok, because you hate MM you feel she deserved it. Geez, she’s not Genghis Khan.

And yet his comment absolutely proves that UK hatred for Meghan is not based in racism, r122

What fucking point are you trying to make, R123?

The guy made a disgusting and despicable comment towards Meghan, and it was published in a UK newspaper.

You're trying to create a red herring with the whole race issue, when the fact of the matter is that Jeremy Clarkson is a disgusting fucking animal, The Sun is a no good trashy tabloid rag, and YOU are a complete and total pig.

r124 You know as well as I do that Cersei Lannister is a white woman.

He said nothing that was racist. Much that was vile (he's Jeremy Clarkson, after all) but nothing that was racist.

You Sussex Stans are losing no matter what you do and no matter which way you go.

Not because of "racism" but because you always have to lie in order to 'defend' your position.

It really, truly is not normal to make up stories like "I know someone who lives the life of a beleaguered pauper so they can give every ounce of energy and every cent they own to charitable causes, and even they hate Meghan Markle" and post them to Datalounge.

It's also not normal to spend a lot of time on Datalounge complaining about how trashy people on here are, and then turn around and post "kill the Harkles in a grease fire because they're literally the worst human beings on earth and if you don't agree with me it means you literally worship them as gods."

I know that all you guys will do is read my post, get mad, say something about "sewage" or "sugars" or something, and then stomp off in a virtual huff, but try to consider for a moment that maybe you've taken this too far, that you spend too much time reading about and getting angry over two inconsequential people, and that your time would be better spent doing almost anything else.

I have r123 blocked, and I only block MAGATs so not surprising a MAGAT is probably bringing up race in order to defend what this cretinous Clarkson wrote.

Clarkson's comment ABSOLUTELY PROVES that it is not racism which drives the universal hatred for Harry and Meghan.

I love it.

R126, the anti-MM loons refuse to accept that people can be ambivalent about her but find the racism directed toward her disgusting. I don’t know who they are, but they’re not regular DL posters.

Damn, nearly every other post here is blocked to me. Oh well, I’m sure nothing of value was posted.

Oh DIE ALONE OLD WOMAN r129

We old school DLer's have no fucking time for Sussex Stinkfish lies.

DIAGF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You nailed it, r127. I looked at some of their other posts and they're saying that there's no such thing as black Jewish people on the Whoopi Goldberg thread.

Their idea of logic is saying "Clarkson was referring to a GOT scene involving a white woman; therefore, he can't be racist" so it's not like they're particularly smart.

Liar liar pants on fire only sad at being CAUGHT, are we, r132

Interesting to see that soon to be exposed Christopher Bouzy's paid Meghanbots spend so much time on the DataLounge....

R132, they’re not regular DL’ers. No idea what rock they crawled out from under. But thankfully I’m not seeing any of their posts. Just keep blocking the MAGATs and kill two birds with one stone.

Fine, I'll quote you, r133. All these are from the linked thread.

Here you are talking about how the Daily Mail is the best newspaper ever:

[quote]The DM has a much larger budget than most other news platforms and often carries ten times the stories the others do. That's why Muriel banning it is bullshit.

Here's all your "all Jews are white" crap:

[quote]I've never met a non-white Jewish person. They're all white.

[quote]I have never seen or met a brown or black Jewish person. And I've lived all over the world.

Yes, r136.

And?

[quote] What he wrote was vile, racist and inexcusable.

Racist how?

Sorry r138, vile, inexcusable and misogynistic. I guess that makes it ok.

Vile, but nut not racist. Thank you for confirming it, vile Sussexstan r139.

It wasn't racist what he said. Vile yes. Racist no. I bet he would have said the same thing about Wallis Simpson. Though that would have been in private because you simply couldn't write that way in a paper then.

Look Meghan is a lousy human being. That isn't even up for debate. Still what he said was contemptable. I genuinely wonder what kind of reaction he would have gotten if he had written that about Andrew who really would have deserved it.

[quote] It was tasteless and hostile agitprop to write for national publication, and people rightfully don’t like it.

Please, spare us. Unlike the firehose of diarrhea pointed at her every day by thousands of Brits online? He just said what the rest imply/insinuate.

The reason this prompted a backlash was because he’s a man saying he wanted to see her paraded naked and attacked. Full stop.

People throw the word racist at everything now. It’s completely ridiculous. People seem to think that any criticism of someone who happens to be not white is racism. Markle brought this on herself. She’s a tiresome low life, just as her dumb as a box of rocks husband. To say that you’re leaving the country to have privacy only to start a podcast and star in a documentary series, exposing every aspect of your life, is hilarious.

[quote] Unlike the firehose of diarrhea pointed at her every day by thousands of Brits online?

Well now there's an image I would have gone happy to have spent the rest of my life never picturing.

Sussexes refuse to accept The Sun's apology for Clarkson, calling it a "PR stunt."

Meghan doesn't want to hear they're sorry!

Girls, girls, they're all cunts.

Well if they accept the apology they can't sue. I'm sure their litigious highnesses will find a case somewhere here.

Sue for what? There's no defamation here. Just one man's opinion. Although I would like to see them sue just for the fun of watching them spin out some more.

r145 Theyd know all about PR stunts and not being sincere.

[quote]It wasn't racist what he said. Vile yes. Racist no.

He wouldn't have said it about a white member of royalty, which is what makes it racist.

You Markle-hater obsessives have flat-out said that threads on here with the n-word and "mulatto" and "ghetto" aren't racist, either, so it's plain that you simply deny racism no matter how it's presented.

You have no way of knowing that, r150. You literally just made that up out of thin air to support your false claim that it was a "racist" statement. We can all see that.

Sewage Squad members are so fucking thick it's amazing they manage to get through the day.

r150 I dont know that such an assertion stacks up.I think he would happily say it about a royal who is on the outs badly with the royal family.So I can imagine at the peak of her unpopularity in the 1990s him saying it about Fergie or even Diana if she had no died but became more unpopular at some point.I think the key is being on the outs with the family and probably being a woman which is why the anti women accusation does stack up to a certain extent

i have no doubt that to Clarkson Meghan represents the embodiment of the extreme end of wokeness and hollow showbiz phoniness and that is likely a factor here too-particularly as I think all journalists and columnists were likely to have been told they have to watch the Netflix documentary like it or not as part of their job and duties as an employee.

I can completely imagine this being said of Fergie after the toe-sucking pictures were published. That was being written about for years and prompted tons of vulgar jokes.

[quote]To say you’re leaving the country to have privacy…

She literally never said that

Harry said that repeatedly, r154. Saying they left "to protect my family" from the media (which was never papping them) is almost on a loop whenever he speaks.

r154 On the sussex royal website one of the first lines in their manifesto is we choose to leave to remove the medias public interest defence for reporting on us.

Then they literally as you put it paid an expensive PR company to make sure they were reported on.

r153 Exactly.Sadly I am afraid some people for their own reasons are really invested in it being motivated by race, wanting it to be true.

r157 They are DESPERATE for it to be true, when it very clearly isn't true.

I wonder why that is?

[quote] He wouldn't have said it about a white member of royalty, which is what makes it racist.

Now there's tortured logic.

I'm honestly confused why anyone cares about what he said. She DESERVES to be paraded naked in the street with people throwing shit at her. She's EARNED that. It's confusing how anyone could defend her.

Because her supporters, r160, are some of the nastiest, most racist, most vicious people on the internet. ANY criticism of her, warranted or not, throws them into fits of screaming "RACISM!!!" when none is there, and then graduating to death threats to the entire BRF, people on this board, people on twitter. They regularly doxx Meghan's critics, putting them in danger. They threatened the then royal reporter for the Express with a sniper about three years ago. They doxxed and threatened to kill the children of Telegraph reporter Camilla Tominey. Listed the children's schools and her address. She had to take them out of school and move house. The list goes on and on.

Now the UK government is looking into a revamp of Charles's security in the wake of the Harkle's reality show. The Sussex Squad, as they call themselves, are on the verge of being named a terror threat, but as to whether that will be made official, who knows.

The point is that they are THAT bad. They have said far, far worse than Clarckson ever did, and they have threatened people non stop. I'm convinced one of them is going to get physical soon. They are violent rhetoric spouting extremists.

To see them now screeching over a gamoe of thrones reference is almost hilarious, given the violent and hateful - and disgustingly vile shit they spount all day every day.

^^^^ I should add that the terror list is for the number of death threats they tweet about members of the BRF. They rejoiced when the Queen died, said they hoped she died in agony, etc. The only other people who did that were jihadis.

Yes, really: the only groups who regularly threaten the BRF's lives online and who rejoiced at the Queen's death are the Sussex fans and jihadis. That's the sort of people they are.

Jeremy Clarkson is an equal opportunity asshole. He does not deserve the oxygen he is getting from this. I can't stand MM, but let's not give Clarkson more credit than he deserves. He could and would have said this about anyone, it just so happens MM was in his sights that day. He is a noxious, hyperbolic, bloviating turd who cancels himself out by being so repulsive with every word from his mouth. MM is not his only "victim", but she's certainly playing it up.

[quote]He could and would have said this about anyone

I'd love to hear examples of him saying something like this about King Charles or Queen Elizabeth or even Prince Andrew. Got any links?

He was writing about how much he hated Meghan. "I hate her on a cellular level." I don't think he hated the late Queen of any of her sons.

I am certain that he has said he has hated other people and was just as vitriolic about them as he was about Markle. Vitriol is, after all, his calling card.

R164, you won’t find it, he never has. The MM comment is by far his worst in print. And if he did, you can bet it would have been edited out.

Oh please. More made up bullshit from you. It was a Game of Thrones reference. That's it. I know you want it to be earthshatterig and racist and all the "WORST IN THE WORLD" things you are pretending it is, but it simply isn't, especially coming from Jeremy Clarkson.

Meghan should take the hint though. If they show up for the Coronation, they might well be subjected to some shouts of "Shame" and the odd pelted egg. I would stay the fuck away if I were them.

[quote] If they show up for the Coronation, they might well be subjected to some shouts of "Shame" and the odd pelted egg. I would stay the fuck away if I were them.

That's how trashy and pathetic British people are.

Even Americans wouldn't stoop to that level.

We have more decency than that.

r168 January 6th didn't show decency

R168 giggle We Americans have zero class! And damn proud of being the trash we are! USA! USA! USA! Only in the US is driving while black a capital offense.

There is no way in hell Meghan is not showing up to a coronation if they get an invite. Which will be wonderful if they don't get one. It will get a flurry of news. Then at the ceremony nobody will be distracted by them being there and discussing endlessly where they were seated.

If she doesn't attend the coronation, she'll try to upstage it. Remember the funeral wreath shit she pulled at Prince Philip's funeral?

I hope Meg and Harry get invited and don't show. That's right, fuck you Charles.

How is that a "fuck you" when everyone with a sane mind would be more than glad if the two Sussex idiots didn't show up.

Yes Charles, Camilla and everyone would be relieved. I can't imagine Charles would want any booing at his coronation no matter who it was for.

Harry's already cut his own throat. He's finished. And Meghan - like with her acting "career" - is a never was.

[quote]I agree that it's a culture wars sideshow, but I still don't understand why Camilla appears to be a willing participant. Why spend all the time when Queen Elizabeth was alive by either avoiding or ignoring conflict, only to immediately reverse course and start ginning it up on purpose as soon as the Queen dies? The Palace has nothing to gain by this.

camilla is and always has been a CUNT. All those years that Diana used to manipulate the press, so did camilla and charles. She had her pet reporters at the Sun and The Express. Diana had Richard Kay at the Daily Mail and charles had the Times and The Telegraph. Diana only started with cooperating with the press because charles and camilla had the palace offices fighting for them. For years and years they said charles and "mrs parker bowles were nothing more than good friends" and "Princess Diana is imaging they're having an affair". camilla lived at charles and Diana's country house half the week. The staff had to wait on that whore hand and foot, as if she were the lady of the house. As if she were the Princess of Wales. And Diana knew it too. charles made the staff lie and act as if no one had been there

She and charles hired a PR person named marc bolland. He used to trade personal details/events about teenage Prince William and Prince Harry to the tabloids in exchange for good press about camilla. charles paid someone to trash his sons and tell very personal details about them, in exchange for positive articles about camilla. What kind of fucking father does that? For many years William barely talked to his dad and years later, it got so bad that charles complained to anyone who would listen that he "never got to see Prince George because he was always with the Middletons". There were even a few Christmases that William didn't spend with his family either, he spent it with the Middletons. No one had ever done that before.

William only became close with his father when he got caught cheating on Kate. You can even track all of this with press articles. Ever since then William and Kate have been one big PR campaign. Before then everyone called them "workshy" because they didn't do very many appearances. Now, they're out everywhere

R61, did you notice the British press barely reported on jeremy clarkson's hateful spectacle. When asked about this, the Prime Minister smiled and changed the subject. He said, the country "is full of resilient people", and changed the subject. It's as if it never happened.

WTF?

And not a single word from the palace. Jesus Christ. I know they are close friends with jeremy clarkson, but they're siding with clarkson over their son and daughter in law. That's absolutely disgusting. And it proves every word Harry says, is true.

You sound delusional r178. Get help.

[quote] Jeremy Clarkson column about Meghan sparks tide of criticism

Only the flotsam and jetsam waste their time bobbing around on other people's tides.

Clarkson is just a loud mouthed old drunkard who has no idea when he's about to get himself in trouble. His mouth has already lost him one very lucrative gig. He seems intent on making sure there are few people who will hire him.

We hate Jeremy Clarkson

We hate Meghan

We hate Camilla.

I bet camilla is having an affair with jeremy clarkson. She and charles live separately. Now we know why. Once a filthy whore, always a filthy whore

He loves bragging about what good friends they are. She and charles used to be "good friends"

[quote] She and charles used to be "good friends"

What are you implying?

I wouldn't doubt it if she's having an affair with him. He enjoys telling everyone what close friends they are

Jeremy Clarkson wrote a sorry-not-sorry Instagram apology to save his Amazon deal and he was shitcanned anyway the same day, which is the funniest thing ever.

I have a feeling ITV will keep him on, a good amount of people will likely watch Who Wants To Be A Millionaire out of spite because he’s not woke and hates Meghan Markle.

R17, you are on a site for sleazy and gossipy people, luv. We love talking about our own.

"He's not woke" = "he's a racist raging misogynist".

If violent fantasies against black women get you hard go for it, I guess.

You mean the woman who suddenly discovered her black heritage when she married into the royal family and needed a trump card?

Speaking of racist misogynists....

Speaking of woke pathological liars because it fits a twisted agenda...

Liar R186. Clarkson will finish out his contract into 2024, and will "likely" not re-up -- 18 months from now this insignificant uproar will be long over and the parties could agree to an extension. The Harolds hold very little power.

You lookin at me?

Who sticks up for MM? Does anyone like her?

Gayle King thinks she's the bee's knees. Steve Colbert and a couple of the royal rota are fond of Hazza, so those people by default. Or maybe not. I reckon 90% of her 'support runs through her husband. So to sum up, I don't know.

Thanks good to hear, R192. His column was over the top, but considering what these two have done to people, his column is nothing. His big mistake was giving in to these two sociopathic bullies. He should have told them to sod off from the get go. Many would have supported him, and, more importantly, respected him.

The new series of his farm show and The Grand Tour are in the bag and ready for release. He won’t be filming more this year.

[quote]Who sticks up for MM? Does anyone like her?

Personally I DGAF about them for good or bad. But the stupefying volume of Harkle shitposting from racist Tory cunts on this board deserves some pushback.

R194 60yo mean girl.

FYI "The Grand Tour" was already mostly-cancelled when this little tempest in a teapot started, there wasn't another season coming, maybe just some single episodes billed as "specials". I presume that was because the show seemed to be very expensive to produce, what with traveling over the whole world and paying three hosts, and if it didn't pull in enough ratings to justify the expense that'd be that. Which is a pity, I really liked that show, the hosts are funny, James May is one of my pretend boyfriends, and traveling the world with three funny Brits was a blast.

But I would be surprised if "Clarkson's Farm" was cancelled. It's got to be dirt cheap to produce, what with being filmed on Clarkson's hobby farm, and Clarkson's fan base would have no problem with his Meg-bashing. None at all.

Meghan and her mother were obvious grifters from day one r120 and also an obvious terrible addition to the family. It's bizarre you think she was a good addition.

"Can’t believe all of the apologists for Clarkson. What he wrote was vile, racist and inexcusable."

This is the Datalounge, R122.

We've all said worse.