What are the 5 most important American cities?

Palm Springs?

3. Chicago

4. San Diego

5. Seattle

3. Scottsdale

4. Duluth

5. Gatlinburg

DC (political headquarters), Chicago (major transit hub), SF (everything tech).

3. Chicago

4. Miami

4. Dallas

4. Branson

4. Boston

New York

DC

LA

SF

CHI

From Bloomberg.

Do I have to say?

The one with all the computer companies.

New Orleans is an important port city in the supply chain, bringing goods up the Mississippi River.

Houston is probably the most important oil city.

1. New York

2. Washington

3. Los Angeles/Hollywood

After those three obvious ones, it's debatable.

4 & 5. Houston, Miami, Chicago or Atlanta

Philadelphia, Chicago to round out r11

Cabot Cove

r8 Bloomberg ignores cultural significance. Hollywood is in LA. It influences and dominates global culture.

Miami...why, exactly?

R15, LA is also an important logistics hub, operating the two busiest ports in the country which receive all the cheap Made in China junk everyone buys on Amazon.

[quote] Miami...why, exactly?

It's a funnel for Southern influence which is stifled in more backwards areas of the South. And there's the Latino element.

I guess i'd see its importance as shoving stupid, backwater ideas down our throats. Not much else. Latino influence is far more prevalent in CA and other western states, IMO.

r18 I agree. But "importance" in terms of influence can be negative as well. And southern Florida is not like the rest of the South though. It's more cosmopolitan.

Why is Atlanta important, R11?

r20 Atlanta is considered the capital of the south.

Boston and Philadelphia are historically important.

3. Mayfield

4. Riverdale

5. Sunrise Bay, "a coastal community plagued by a centuries-old curse."

Boston

From the numerous threads I see bring created here, I would be surprised if Salem, Illinois and Genoa City, Wisconsin do not make the list.

Boston and Philadelphia haven't really mattered in 50 years or more.

To the rest of the world, Los Angeles is the quintessential American city.

r27 To New Yorkers, Los Angeles isn't even a city, just a big suburb.

Yes you’re right r28, that’s why terrorists who hate America keep attacking LA.

I meant r27

Yes, r30, they hate America except for LA.

[quote] [R27] To New Yorkers, Los Angeles isn't even a city, just a big suburb.

So? Who gives a fuck about New Yorkers?

Brits obsessively love L.A.

NYC is cool but it reminds them too much of London. L.A. is American paradise to them.

Everyone does, r32, and no one’s ever heard of Pittsburgh.

Miami is important globally, but not particularly important domestically. It's kind of like Dubai... its importance comes from the people who play there rather than the productive work that happens there.

It's where rich Americans from New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago meet and play with rich Latin Americans and Europeans & arrange business deals whose actual work occurs elsewhere.

R4 nails it.

Can Silicone Valley be considered a city?

Miami is basically the capital of Latin America. Enormous cultural influence.

I don't agree with your assessment, r38. Oh well.

R37, it's a single megalopolis, regardless of how you draw the "city" lines. In America, "cities" don't matter, megalopoli do.

Case in point: Detroit. Detroit (the City) is unquestionably dying, and has been for decades. Detroit (the sprawling megalopolis) is actually one of the fastest growing megalopoli in America.

In the 1970s, Miami (the city) was practically at death's door, even while metro Dade County's population doubled, then doubled and doubled again.

Is this the thread where New Yorkers and Los Angelenos go to demonstrate once again their utter contempt for every other place in the US?

Beverly Hills

I’m going with what would cause the biggest ripple effect if these cities collapsed.or became no-go areas. In other words, how replaceable are they?

-New Orleans. Someone said it above. It’s not about the city itself, rather it’s location. It’s the exit for the entire Mississippi River basin and much of the US’s grain exports. This area covers over a third of the lower 48. If you can’t pass New Orleans, it would have to be rerouted through the St Lawrence seaway (dependent on another country’s goodwill) or the Tennessee-Tombigbee waterway or very expensive overland. It would be catastrophic to US agriculture and economy,

-Houston area, Major petro-chemical industry concentration and ports. As long as the US rely on carbon fuels, Houston is the main lynchpin,

-Washington. Hub of federal government, Duh.

Carthage, MS

R33 No, Brits love Orlando.

NYC, LAX, SEA, ORD and FLL

NYC, LA. Chicago, San Francisco, Washington

New York was stitched together from the exact same suburban artifice that Los Angeles was.

Neither Boston nor Miami should be on Bloomberg's list. Especially Miami. Please. Atlanta should be on the list.

My list would be NYC, L. A. Seattle, Atlanta, Chicago, Washington, D.C. , Dallas, Philadelphia, SF, Houston. Florida should be nuked.

D.C., LA, NY, Chicago, Dallas

What are the five most important American state capitols?

Regardless of what you prioritize - political power, financial capital, or cultural influence - NY, LA, and DC are top three. Only thing up for grabs is the order. If you expand San Francisco to Silicon Valley, then it’s right up there with the other three and it becomes a list of four. Everything else is a distant also ran.

I don’t get Chicago. Chicago is a city you would use to round out the list. I’ve only been once and thought the layout and architecture of the core city and the lake setting were stunning. But I don’t think its an important city except for its size. And I think people in the rest of the US are starting to view it as a bigger and not quite as bad Detroit.

Excluding Washington because it’s the capital

New York (finance), Los Angeles (media), San Francisco (technology), Chicago (commodities), Houston (energy)

DC is a company town and a bore.

Whether folks here cotton to it or not, Chicago is the most American of cities. (There's a lot of territory and a lot of people between the two coasts, believe it or not.)

Bogalusa should be either #4 or #5.

Atlanta is in the top 3 for tech. Yes. Right up there with Seattle. Ask Google and Microsoft and all the other companies setting up here. Not just opening an office, but building buildings. Real estate. We lead in Financial services in particular.

Problem with ATL is that it has no infrastructure to support all the economic development and the education system is shit. Oh. And our healthcare system is collapsing with all the hospital closings.

3. DC

4. Atlanta - Capital of the Southeast

5. Houston - Capital of the Southwest and national oil hub

If this was a list of metro areas, I would list NY as number one followed by the Bay Area. The Bay Area really punches above it's weight economically. I don't think I need to go into detail why that is. It's the tech capital of the world. Three would be DC, four would be LA and five would be Chicago.

Port cities are always important.

I've always wanted to visit Chicago, don't ask me why..

New York

Washington D.C.

Los Angeles

Boston

San Francisco

R61- Why?

According to many post apocalyptic movies, Denver will become capital of the US after DC is flooded/destroyed.

I love the city, but Boston doesn’t belong on these lists, and neither does Atlanta. Chicago is significant but no longer Top 5. Houston sucks but the oil industry is extremely important.

My votes: NYC LAX DC Houston Bay Area

[quote]Can Silicone Valley be considered a city?

Only for breast implants.

What about Las Vegas?

[quote]What are the five most important American state capitols?

capitOl = building

capitAl = city

R26 How is Boston not relevant? Is medicine, tech, and education not relevant today? It has some of the best hospitals and universities in the world.

None of them are that important. Love is important.

R40 "Detroit (the sprawling megalopolis) is actually one of the fastest growing megalopoli in America. "

This is untrue. Cite your source

R43, today New Orleans could be wilderness or wasteland it would not matter. The Mississippi goes all the way to Illinois. NOLA was a thriving port city...in 1813.

NY

LA

Chicago

DC

Boston

Most important how?

The things that are important to me in a city have fuck all to do with economic power, political power, wages and salaries, economic output, size of population, industrial output, or Combined Global City Index™ (whatever that is.)

Influence can mean many things, but at least R73ś link have a point of view.

"The things that are important to me in a city have fuck all to do with economic power, political power, wages and salaries, economic output, size of population, industrial output, or Combined Global City Index™ (whatever that is.)"

Those are precisely the very things that make cities important, R74.

People hate on Boston because of Greg.

3. Hershey, PA

[quote] New York was stitched together from the exact same suburban artifice that Los Angeles was.

Not really. New York did annex many rural areas (Bronx, Queens, Staten Island), but the modern city became what it was by joining with another very large city, Brooklyn.

And even the scope of the surrounding rural annexations was *vastly* smaller. If New York were comparable to LA, it would need to be expanded to include all of Bergen County as well. That would add a million more New Yorkers.

The RESEARCH TRIANGLE AREA!

NY

LA

SF

DC

MIA

Interesting how often Houston is mentioned here. I like the city - but never thought of it as a “major” city. I know it’s big in oil and gas. But even in Texas, it’s not “THE” city. Austin is much more influential and Dallas IS Texas to most people. I get it statistically but not for cultural influence.

Chicago, despite its size and commodity trading, alway seems like a place that juts grew because there needed to be a big city in between the East and West. Never a place a consider as a destination - kinda like Houston. Again, I get it statistically but culturally more of an also ran.

According to Kevin Starr in his series on California history L.A. was a conglomeration of religious colonists. Each city was a different sect. That’s part of why it is so weird. Even the freakiest freak is barely even noticed there. It is important for ? I’m still trying to figure out what that even means. It’s importance comes from taking the petroleum dollar and using it to infect he world with Hollywoodism. A shocking cultural Cancer now endemic.

The best thing to do in Texas is to change planes.

Philadelphia. If you are into Fentanyl .

[quote] How is Boston not relevant? Is medicine, tech, and education not relevant today? It has some of the best hospitals and universities in the world.

People may hate on Boston because of me, but there’s no denying what R69 says.

DC is irrelevant. If a flood took Washington DC, the US capital switch back to Philadelphia like nothing ever happened. Politicians live in NYC and fly their private jets into Philly on work days.

^Politicians *would* live in NYC

"DC is irrelevant. If a flood took Washington DC, the US capital switch back to Philadelphia like nothing ever happened."

Oh, brother. What brain trusts there are on this thread.

In DC they're 7s, in NYC most would be 2-4s. They'd hate it.

R85 Yeah if you’re sick or dying, Boston is your best bet to be saved.

I was in Boston about 2 weeks ago. Lots of Indians and East Asians everywhere and they’re all going to be doctors and computer engineers and shit.

People are talking about Miami and Atlanta, I would kill for Boston to have those types of living expenses. I could afford a mansion in Atlanta.

r90 If you want a doctor whose parents did all their homework for them, be my guest.

Another genius at R91.

Boston - tech, research, best hospitals, best universities

Boston. Cream pies.

R71- It’s NOT 1920 anywhere

R90- I would like my Mr. Right to be an Indian Doctor.

A meaningless statement from R95.

R71- My comment was meant for R40

You can measure this objectively. The top five metro areas ranked by GDP are

1) New York

2) Los Angeles

3) Chicago

4) San Francisco

5) DC

I can't believe we have some Atlanta queens trying to pretend Atlanta would make the top 5 most important cities, the economy of Atlanta comes in at number 10 below Philadelphia.

If you combine the San Francisco metro with San Jose, that's about 800 million GDP for the whole Bay area. That's way more per person than LA or Chicago. Proof that the Bay Area punches above its weight. I would argue that the Bay Area as a whole is way more important than LA.

Boston has never recovered dating back to the Great Molasses Flood.

Boston has never recovered from Marky Mark.

1. New York, 2. Los Angeles, 3. Washington, D.C., 4. San Francisco (Bay Area), 5. Chicago

Contenders for the next tier: Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle

R99

Why wouldn’t it be below Philadelphia? It’s smaller… In the top 10, save SF (a strange case because of a census definition that artificially breaks up SF/SJ), Miami and Seattle, the GDP aligns with metro size.

Bay Area is Internet !! Google, FB, Twitter, Insta, Tiktok(US), SNAP are all located there. It's also center for education (Stanford, Berkeley, USF), and birthplace for many liberal rights. Pound for pound, or inch for inch, it is the single most influential and powerful place in the entire world. If Bay Area coughs, the entire world catches cold. Any one who doesn't put it in top 3 is an ignorant and uneducated moron.

"Pound for pound, or inch for inch, it is the single most influential and powerful place in the entire world."

Another brain trust at R105.

I meant UCSF not USF at r105

Altoona

Bemidji

Cicero

Walla Walla

Winnemucca

Yeah - don’t get why Atlanta is always hyped as a “big” center. To me Houston is more vibrant economically. And as mentioned above, even Philly is way bigger.

The Bay Area is dead, dead, dead. It's always been a boom and bust city and the boom ended with the pandemic. All the autistic tech nerds work from home now.

There's no America without Bay Area. Take out Bay Area, America wouldn't be any different from Russia.

R111, have you heard of NYC--the financial center of the world? Why don't you also read the Times piece at R110?

All the Bay Area "tech" companies got rich off speculation due to easy money from the Fed. Those days are gone for good now, no more billion dollar websites.

In the end of the day, an important city has to be able to “clear its orbit”. Boston and Philly, while great, are all insignificant compared to New York. They are all in New Yorks orbit. They would make a top 10, not a top 5.

Even SF wouldn’t. It’s important, but in Cali, LA calls the shots.

Answers are:

NY LA DC (sorry but thats where all the power is) Dallas Atlanta.

Honorable Mentions: Chicago Boston Philly Miami Seattle Denver San Fran

[quote] I can't believe we have some Atlanta queens trying to pretend Atlanta would make the top 5 most important cities, the economy of Atlanta comes in at number 10 below Philadelphia.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Atlanta ranked so high for GDP. Above both Seattle and Miami.

It's not really a matter of opinion. The Bloomberg piece was very clear at R8, and it had to do with money.

New Canaan, Darien, Greenwich, Weston, Westport

r110 What's there to read in that stupid piece ?

r116 That Bloomberg piece is more than 10 year old

Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Keep fucking that chicken, R118. One can read the headline and understand it. Do you have reading comprehension issues? NYC is the most important city in the world BECAUSE it is the financial center of the world.

R118, this is from 2019: it measures the 25 most influential and important cities in the world, not just the United States. New York is number 1. LA is number 7, Chicago is 8, DC is 10, and Boston was 21. San Francisco didn't make the list.

Sorry, Top 21, not 25.

Thank you for that fresh and timely listicle from a CRAP SITE (Business Insider) with no journalistic cred, and posted in 2019. Keep up the good information literacy, dimwit.

Oh my God, Mary R123, you've offered NOTHING to support your specious claims about San Francisco. Why don't you post something that gives a shred of evidence that San Francisco is the most important city in the world, as you claim? Becuase you can't?

You have me confused with some San Francisco stan, bub.

So what are you claiming, R125?

[quote]Yeah - don’t get why Atlanta is always hyped as a “big” center.

Atlanta is the big dream for a lot of small town Southern gays and lesbians who manages to got far out of their little nothing towns and saw in Atlanta tall buildings and shiny glass and a mall and an airport highways and Peachtree this and that's and thought they had reached the absolute center of the universe. Nothing will disuade them, certainly not truth

*who managed

Silence from the big mouth at R125.

[quote]Even SF wouldn’t. It’s important, but in Cali, LA calls the shots.

Most statewide politicians are from northern California -- until recently, both Senators and most governors.

Dogpatch

R130, CA's political power has always been consolidated up in Northern CA, despite Southern Cal always having the larger population (even during the Spanish and Mexican periods).

Not exactly r104.

Boston is the 11th biggest metro in population but the 8th largest economy. It punches above it's weight.

DC metro is smaller than Dallas or Houston, but has a bigger economy than both.

Atlanta is 8th biggest metro, but only 10th biggest economy.

Up to date stats using CSAs

Pop. 2021 2020

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area 23,216,685 23,582,649

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA 18,490,242 18,644,680

3. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA 9,946,526 9,973,383

4. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA 9,876,339 9,986,960

5. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area 9,545,921 9,714,023

GDP

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA $2,258,553,499

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA $1,396,198,551

3. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA $1,250,885,571

4. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA $869,398,252

5. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI $784,702,076

If you go by number of skyscrapers:

1. New York

2. Chicago

3. Miami

4. Houston

5. Los Angeles

R5, genuinely career re: Dallas' inclusion.

*curious!^

Dallas is a style capital, if not THE style capital of the US!

But who longs to live in an "important" city if importance is defined only by measurable factors of size and economic and/or political production/influence?

If your career is your life, maybe. If your career is strongly tied to a few cities in the world, maybe. If you count as cultural factors things like national capitals and numbers of lawyers and lobbyists, maybe.

History, livability/quality of life, aesthetics, climate, cultural resources, the intersection of cultures, housing stock, architecture, transportation options and proximity to travel destinations, recreation options, food quality and variety...those sorts of factors play much much heavily in where people want to live or work or visit. I'd rather be in a capital of art, or a center of education and publishing, than in an epicenter of government bureaus and regulation, or a city vital as a transportation hub and energy sales.

Who cares about important cities in a practical way?

Mexico City

Toronto

Sao Paulo

Buenos Aires

Vancouver

You didn't say "United States," you said AMERICAN.

Well, I would rather live in Buenos Aires than any "important" U.S. city.

Go right ahead, R141.

Omaha, Nebraska...duh!

It seems pretty obvious that the top four are NY, LA, DC and SF.

Those are hubs of business and government and all four cities attract the "best and the brightest" from other areas of the country.

And you can list what they are each known for: Finance and Media, Entertainment, Law and Government, Tech

#5 is trickier.

There are arguments to be made for both Chicago and Miami for #5

Chicago, because of its size, though no major 21st century industry in actually based there.

Miami because it is international and growing and a hub for all of Latin America, but it is not nearly as large as several other US cities.

Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Boston and Seattle are all second tier regional cities, no matter how badly the DLers who live in them would wish them to be otherwise.

Might the joining together of cities like Dallas and Fort Worth or Minneapolis and Saint Paul up their status and ranking of national cities?

R145, yes. Definitely the case for Dallas.

Dallas/Fort worth and Minneapolis/St Paul are all one metro area r145. Most posters of this thread have really be comparing metro areas and not city limits.

And I agree with your reasoning, but it's definitely Chicago for the other spot. Chicago might not be as cool and flashy as some other options, but it's still America's Second City. (Let's be real LA is not really that much of a actual *city*) and a major economic hub and the capital of flyoverland.

If you look at any objective metrics, none of those other contenders are more important than Chicago.

Meant to refer to r144 for the second part of my post.

3. Boston

4. Chicago

5. San Francisco

Washington

Chicago

Palo Alto (Silicon Valley)

3. Washington, DC

4. Boston

5. Chicago

R145, R146 Neither Fort Worth nor St. Paul add much of note to their respective primate cities. So no.

Los Angelenos are forgetting that Chicago is THE SECOND CITY.

But is being the Second City really something to strive towards? ;)

North City

Charleston

Berkeley

Orlando

Las Vegas

Portland, OR

Burien, Wa

Saratoga, CA

Williams, AZ

Cedar City, UT

[quote] Beverly Hills

r42 I live in Los Angeles. How chi chi lame.

If we're talking LA, big sprawling ghetto Hollywood is better.

Dude, even the Melrose district.

[quote]Not really. New York did annex many rural areas (Bronx, Queens, Staten Island), but the modern city became what it was by joining with another very large city, Brooklyn.

I was responding to R28.

But thanks for underlining my point. Which is that New York has no standing upon which to criticize Los Angeles when it comes to how either city came into its modern existence.

Locust Valley, Upper Brookville, Lattingtown, Laurel Hollow and Cold Spring Harbor.

Arguments about L.A. vs San Francisco will be moot in 50 years, once HSR turns the entire central valley into a shared exurb of both, and the area between L.A. and SF is more continuously urban than the area between San Diego and L.A. is today. In 50 years, they'll just be different ends of the same vast sprawling city.

[quote] You didn't say "United States," you said AMERICAN.

r140 It's the Unites States of America. America is the country's name. The cities you listed may be called North American and South American - but not American.

[quote]It's the Unites States of America. America is the country's name.

Retard.

Houston: center of oil industry + JSC

Oh, and largest medical center in the world. ^^^

The US has three de facto capitals: New York (financial capital); DC (political capital); LA (cultural capital). These are the three American cities that matter most on the international stage.

I think the other two would be San Francisco/Silicon Valley and I guess Chicago, although I don't think Chicago has the global reach of the three capitals or the Bay Area. Houston is also a decent candidate because of the power and influence of the US petroleum industry.

"New York (financial capital); DC (political capital); LA (cultural capital)"

R165--what??? LA is HARDLY the cultural capital. Sorry, but NYC has it over LA in spades when it comes to culture.

LA is the cultural capital if "culture" begins and ends with Adam Sandler movies.

Agree with R165. But I think Silicon Valley/SF is a legitimate 4th place/tie with LA. The world capital of tech - possibly more “important” than LAs film world especially in the era of YouTube/TikTok/app based entertainment.

R167 Honestly, with the money available there, Art and Art Museums have really pulled ahead in the last few decades, but I think much will hinge on what happens with the new LACAMA building. The Getty and Huntington are outstanding and continue to grow in collections exponentially, unlike NYC institutions.

Bay Area is absolutely more important than LA these days. That wasn't really true two decades ago or so but as tech has become more important, so has the Bay Area.

Tuckahoe, NY

Houston is not in the southwest. It's in the south central US.

I'm not even a big LA fan, but the importance of the American entertainment industry should not be overlooked. It's a huge global force of an industry and it is headquartered in LA. The other node of global importance is the Long Beach/LA port which is the number 1 port in the Americas, the most goods come through there.

Beaver Falls, PA

Beaver Lick, SD.

[quote] Retardo.

r162 r140 Oh please. Only an idiot would call Vancouver an "American" city. My family in Vancouver would be aghast. One has to get out of their bedroom and travel and see the world as it is in reality, not on your computer or tv.

Yes. You're retarded.

Miami, for the highest ratio of intact foreskins

LA probably has slightly more celebrities than New York does. But New York gets all the classiest celebrities, whereas LA attracts nothing but total trash.

R178, not true at all, it's just that the trashier attention seeking celebs love LA. That includes all the D list reality/social media types.

I'm a New Yorker but I actually prefer LA, even with all of its flaws because I don't do people rubbin up on me on public transportation. SoCal weather and beaches are paradise.

R61, Chicago has the most beautiful "downtown."

Chicago is an absolute feast to the eyes. It is the most beautiful city of its type. NYC is downright ugly in comparison. Has a great looking skyline crossing the Brooklyn Bridge though.

[quote]And even the scope of the surrounding rural annexations was *vastly* smaller. If New York were comparable to LA, it would need to be expanded to include all of Bergen County as well. That would add a million more New Yorkers.

Yep the city limits of all of New York with 8.8 million people is only 300 sq mi. The city limits of LA with 3.8 million people is spread over 469 sq mi.

R166 et al - you must be New Yorkers. You are vastly overestimating the importance of the sort of culture New York offers. This is not 1930.

By "culture" I mean not high culture or theater that only a tiny few people attend. I mean the culture that defines the nation and is what represents us abroad, which is overwhelmingly centered in LA. This is not just movies. It's TV and all other media as well.

It doesn't matter whether you like it or not. The thread is not about cities that are important to you.

R183, NYC is still mad influential outside of high culture. More movies and TV shows are set in NYC than any other city. The news, Wall Street, graffiti and sneaker culture, minority culture, fashion.

You tried it.

3. Petticoat Junction

4. Hooterville

5. Cabot Cove

r184 No one is saying Los Angeles is overall more influential than NYC.

But in terms of film and media culture, Los Angeles i.e. Hollywood is number one and everyone knows that.

[quote]By "culture" I mean not high culture or theater that only a tiny few people attend. I mean the culture that defines the nation and is what represents us abroad

What you are talking about no longer resides in a city.

It resides on the internet.

Culture is not just the movie business--at any rate, NYC also has a substanital movie and TV business. But more significant, NYC has the most important museums, with some of the most important collections, in the entire world--the Met, the MoMA, the Frick, the Whitney, the Guggenheim, to name just five. It has the Metropolitan Opera and the NY Ballet. It has all of the publishing world, and architecture. LA simply doesn't compare. It's not even close.

LA does not have more culture nor is more influential than NYC. And I would never live in NY again unless I had Michael Jordan's net worth. It's just is, Blanche.

NYC is so influential on so many fucking levels. The mere fact that so many New Yorkers live their adult professional lives else where like in Denver or around the globe shows its influence.

I'll never forget a comedian said you could be at a party in a Polish village or a club in South Africa, and someone will scream, "Where Brooklyn at". 😆

You will never hear someone yell where LA, or where Compton at.

R188 nails it.

You NYC people are full of yourselves.

Imagine.

LA spreads more American culture than NYC does and has more influence.

Tell me where all the things in those museums originated from, please. NYC?

Oh, hunty, R191, WHERE do you think all the art in the Getty came from? Please, yourself.

"LA spreads more American culture than NYC does and has more influence." That kind of idiocy was already answered.

NYC is the Beyonce Knowles Carter of culture.

LA is the Britney Spears.

Deal with it.

Did I say it was good? Hollywood has affected worldwide culture much more than NYC.

Go eat some lox.

"Hollywood has affected worldwide culture much more than NYC."

No, R194, it hasn't. But thanks for the laughs.

And Beyonce is something to aspire to?

OK, Bozo.

Continue your diatribe.

Hollywood? The fucking movie business is practically dead. Movie theatres are closing in droves. Netflix is bottoming out. And yet R194 thinks Hollywood is where it's at! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mayfield

[quote] Hollywood? The fucking movie business is practically dead. Movie theatres are closing in droves. Netflix is bottoming out. And yet [R194] thinks Hollywood is where it's at!

r198 I've got news for you. Hollywood is a slum and movies haven't been made there for 80 years.

Irrelevant. "Hollywood" is the catchall term for the film and tv industry centered in and around Los Angeles and Southern California.

In terms of film and entertainment no other city on earth including NYC comes close to such influence. Deal with it.

R200: movies are a greatly diminished business. And if that's all that LA has, it sure doesn't have more influence than NYC. Deal with it.

OCD much?

"Culture" is more than some disposable product displayed in movie theatres. Or via streaming TV. Or on cross-country flights.

"Culture" includes news, thoughts, concepts, trends, observations. It transcends "boffo at the box office!"

I'm sorry if some people cannot quite grasp that.

There would be no Hollywood without Jews from NYC. Lol, many of those iconic films, filmed in LA, take place in NYC. But not just film. Music, sports--The goddam Yankees cap is most iconic hat of all time. Look I love LA and love living in SoCal butt you Lose Angelans are deluding yourself if you think LA can fuck with NY when it comes to cultural influence.

The empire state building collapsing in several iconic films. Batman, spiderman all take place in NYC.

Miracle on 34th Street, the Macy's day parade, the Moma, Harlem, black musicians and writers, Billy Joel. Bruce Springsteen.

Friends, Seinfeld, the Sopranos.

You bitches are really trying it.

I got the lox part right too.

Imagine.

Like R204, I love LA, too. I love so much about it, including its culture and its physical beauty. But no, it has nowhere near the cultural influence of NYC. But I love both cities in different ways, for different reasons.

[quote] movies are a greatly diminished business. And if that's all that LA has, it sure doesn't have more influence than NYC. Deal with it.

r201 Yeah, because no one watches Netflix anymore. 🤣

But if every film studio disappeared tomorrow, it doesn't matter. The influence has been sustained over a hundred years already.

Do you think Bollywood will change its name?

You're daft. You may not like it. But nobody cares lol. It's done already. Deal!!!

Educating R207...

"Netflix reported in April a surprising loss of subscribers for the first time in more than a decade. Its stock plummeted, the company lost billions in market cap, hundreds of employees were laid off and the future of the one-time media darling was in question."

Netflix is coming back--coming back--after a pretty disastrous year. That's not a great sign of the business, R207.

R184, I think more movies and TV shows are set either explicitly in Southern California or in some nameless place that is obviously Southern California than are set in New York.

Nowadays, more news comes out of DC, even though the network news headquarters are in New York. NY is indeed the financial capital of the US (along with London, the capital of the world in fact). Minority/graffiti/sneaker culture comes from many big cities, including New York and LA. A big part of minority culture in America is music - music that comes out of LA because that is the center of the American music industry.

New York, not LA, is the capital of American fashion ... which only a tiny number of people give a damn about.

I didn't mean that every single piece of American culture comes from LA. Country music, which is a huge part of the culture, doesn't come from LA or NY. I mean that, in general, popular culture is headquartered in Los Angeles. Also, the culture for which the US is known in other places, for better or worse, is Hollywood culture.

Miss Cratchitt: "New York is the center of EVERYTHING!"

Rose Hovick: "New York is the center of New York."

R210, Hollywood is not a culture, it's an industry, and it's one that has taken a hit in a big way.

[quote] Netflix reported in April a surprising loss of subscribers for the first time in more than a decade.

Educating r208 & Rita:

Who gives a rat's ass? Netflix is just one of may streaming services.

You actually think the movie industry is gonna stop making films? 🤣

[quote] I didn't mean that every single piece of American culture comes from LA. Country music, which is a huge part of the culture, doesn't come from LA or NY. I mean that, in general, popular culture is headquartered in Los Angeles. Also, the culture for which the US is known in other places, for better or worse, is Hollywood culture.

r210 Don't even explain to that anally retarded New Yorker.

We're not saying Los Angeles beats New York City in every field. We're just saying when it comes to film and media, Hollywood aka Los Angeles has had an overwhelming influence on global culture, more than any other city in the U.S., if not the earth.

"We're not saying Los Angeles beats New York City in every field. We're just saying when it comes to film and media, Hollywood aka Los Angeles has had an overwhelming influence on global culture, more than any other city in the U.S., if not the earth."

"Has had" are the key words, R214. You have nothing to say about Netflix having a sharp downward turn in business. You say nothing about movie theatres closing in droves--particularly in LA. I'm not saying the movie industry is over, but the costs of productions make movies harder to recoup, the pandemic did a huge number in people even willing to go to movies, and yes, people can stream all kinds of stuff, but the recent fate of Netflix shows it can be a tenuous business. None of that you'll admit to; you just insist on acting like a petulant child who makes no points and presents no facts about anything.

I can also see why you're "platonic."

[quote] "Has had" are the key words

r215 I can't see in the future so I deal with known facts, unlike you.

Sorry, the industry is not going to stop making movies.

Are you actually trying to tell me that film is dead because Netflix may or may not be having problems? How silly.

You're the one railing against the obvious. I'm just stating known facts. All you've done is babble about Netflix.

Don't forget Y'allywood, y'all. Atlanta is the Hollywood of the East. Where everyone in the West who failed retreats to.

R216, you haven't dealt with any "facts." You just make pronouncements. I never said that the industry was going to stop making movies. And no, I never said the movies were a dead industry, I said it was one that has taken a hit. I "babble" about Netflix? You babble about nothing, then pretend you're maming some kinf of point, which you're not.

At least you've admitted that the entertainment industry in LA is just that--an industry. It's not a culture, though it is a living for a lot of people who live in LA.

By the way, are you British? You read like you are. And yet you're such an expert on American "culture."

Anyway, NYC has been, and is, the number-1 city on every list you can possibly Google about the most influential/most important/most cultured or cultural city. Not LA.

It's the most un-LA thing in the world to even care about competing for 1st city or 2nd city.

Columbia Missouri

Well, R220, that's good, since LA will be #2 forever.

R222, I'm pretty sure that's Chicago. They seem to want that title rather badly. I could not care less.

R220 and R222 can have either. I like being #1.

R224, you do you. A lot of people east of the Mississippi seem to share your energy, whether it be NCAA sports, politics, a need for attention, etc.

Oh, dear--because no one wants attention in LA, right, R225?

Moving on!

Why would Dallas be on this list?

[quote] Why would Dallas be on this list?

r227 Houston trumps Dallas by a long shot.

R228, yes, because the American petroleum industry is centered in HOU, and not only is the US the world's leading producer of petroleum and natural gas, the our industry dominates exploration and drilling. Given that petroleum and natural gas are the world's most important sources of energy now and for the foreseeable future, this puts Houston in the top rank of globally influential cities.

Atlanta Houston Boston San Francisco Portland, Oregon

r229 NASA is also in Houston. It has more population than Dallas as well. If you need a city represent Texas and the South, Houston is the place.

Raytown...in an unmentioned state.

This is the most boring thread on DL in ages.

r233 no u