I'm envious of my neighbor

One of the worst ESTs of late. OP should hate that his prolapsed anus drags behind him.

R1, how I wish this miserable tale were not true.

Nothing about this is true. So, kill him, assume his identity, and go fuck yourself.

OP - Congratulations, you are one of the few DLers who knows the difference between envy and jealousy.

what is the difference?

Have you discussed this with Abner?

How do you know he doesn't work from home r have some kind of digital job?

r5 You are envious if you desire other people's possessions. You are jealous if you want to protect your possessions from other people.

R8 no doubt points this out to strangers he overhears in restaurants too.

He's being kept by his "father" no doubt.

R4 There's a difference between being envious and being jealous?

You'd hate me, OP. That's my life too.

EXCEPT -- no father, no seegarz, no grillin' and drinking', and I'm old.

But I'm gone often because I travel for fun.

Hate on, loser!

Sorry, R12, young and hot trumps old and rich, unless you're a wage slave. Nothing trumps young and rich.

He's a hooker, dear.

Joel has a sugar daddy, OP.

He might be a streamer or YouTuber. I follow some popular Twitch streamers and they easily make enough for a good living and they don't stream every day.

I often think their neighbours must wonder why they are so rich despite never seemingly working.

The grass is always greener..

If you never speak to him, how do you know the older guy who comes to the house is his father?

Perhaps that guy is his rich sugar daddy who supports him, but doesn't live with him.

I feel the same about my neighbors who seemingly walk their dogs all day long.

Did you ask him about his OnlyFans?

r11 see r8.

Does he have a Tina Turner wall clock, OP?

[quote] If you never speak to him, how do you know the older guy who comes to the house is his father?

I can hear them talking (through my kitchen window in the Summer and Fall) because he's always out in his yard..

Trust me, it's his father.

It's hard to explain, but this guy truly does nothing all day. Not even on the internet.

He drinks, he eats, he smokes, he socializes with friends and family, and he plays with his dumb dogs.

Oh, and get this. He HIRES people to cut his lawn and trees.

This guy not only doesn't work (which means he has plenty of time to do yard work), but he pays other people to do his yard work for him.

That's what made me start this thread.

Because they were out in his yard earlier yesterday making a ton of noise, raking his leaves, cutting his grass and trimming his tree branches.

And all I could think of was, "He can't even do his own fucking yard work."

Gladys, we worry.

He's got a rich sugar daddy...

It sounds like he's from a wealthy family and he's probably sitting around waiting to get married and go into the family business. Probably managing property, since they seem so blasé about the house.

Sadly, there are plenty of people like this, despite the lamentations you hear on the news about ten million borrowers about to default on their student loans, inflation, recession, declining real estate, escalating interest rates, credit card debt, and unemployment increasing when the vacancy rates fell. The aforementioned has virtually no effect on the lifestyle of many, as OP pointed out. In fact, there has never been an era in modern times where people have had a greater abundance of free time, without want of material possessions (check out their cars, sneakers, wardrobe, headsets, TVs, phones, interior/exterior design), unlimited travel/vacations, hours in a gym, and NO VISIBLE MEANS OF SUPPORT.

While “sugar daddies/mamas” and inheritances do exist, such dowry recipients are less likely to be found in average suburbia. Old money stresses education and individual accomplishment before passing the torch. Also, generous parents need to resign themselves to the fact that there’s a fifty percent chance they could end up demented, disabled, and in long term care before their lazy progeny ever gets their hands on their resources.

So as far as the loafers, dog walkers, and car sitter-inners go, either they’re drowning in debt to subsidize their carefree existence, which will eventually be their Caligula, or they have aligned themselves with an underground economy that better explains their relaxed, sedentary lifestyle. As Santino Corleone once said:

Ask him to piss in your mouth

blackmail him

[quote]Oh, and get this. He HIRES people to cut his lawn and trees.

It's not a moral failing or a character flaw to hire landscapers and gardeners.

One of the co-producers of Bob Hearts Abishola.

I have a neighbor like you, Op, except mine is a divorced dad and total asshole. Pricey house in Mommy and Daddy’s name, jacked up 4x4 truck and attitude to go with it. He cuts his own grass, and looks down on people who don’t mow their own yards (which is 80% of our neighborhood), yet he has a cleaning service and orders food every day, so that’s not really a flex.

He made friends with the family in a adjacent house— they had guns and politics in common— that went on a few years until he had an “affair” with the long-married mom, and her husband left her— they’d lived here many years. He and the other guy’s wife used to stand in his driveway talking ALL day as their relationship was developing, and she was developing an alcohol problem.

It was fucking awkward. I’d back my car out of my garage in the morning and there they’d be, standing right there (ten feet away) talking. I’d come home a little later and there they would be. I would go out for dinner in the evening and they would be there, standing, talking, then later, sitting in lawn chairs in his driveway talking. It weirdest thing I ever saw and I was embarrassed — at some point, I stopped waving at them because it was ridiculous, there’s no other word for it. Day after day this went on, all goddamned day for almost a year.

She was a housewife and her kids were mostly adolescents, but he supposedly had a job this whole time. Most people around here work from home, but they actually work. She even mowed his lawn and I am pretty sure she “cleaned his house.”

After the divorce, a family from the west coast bought the affair family’s house and he tried to woo them with his good old boy schtick— they bought it for a couple months, then they caught on that he was a sociopath in disguise and completely avoid him.

Is he playing loud music that you can hear inside your house? Blocking your driveway with vehicles? Letting his dog poop on your yard? Putting his trash in your supercan?

If he is not infringing on you in any way then shush up and be glad. It could be much worse.

You make up a lot of pathetic posts, OP

Neighbor is probably a YouTuber.

[quote]I accept that this is my lot in life, but why does it have to be shoved in my face?

Nothing's being shoved in your face. Your neighbor keeps a low enough profile that you can only speculate on the source of his income and how he acquired his house. You're choosing to shove your face into something that makes you upset.

I thought the difference between envy and jealousy was good will; you're envious of something someone else has, but you want them to have it, and you're jealous if you want something someone else has but you don't want them to have it.

I like my neighbor's new Mercedes EQS and I hope he enjoys it = envy

I like my neighbor's new Mercedes EQS but he's a lazy good-for-nothing layabout who has had everything handed to him while I bust my ass and can't afford one = jealousy

Mowing the grass in December, OP? Where do you live?

R37 That's one variation

Not your circus, not your monkeys, OP.

I think R37 is right.

You should get to know him, why not. I know this can be hard to watch. I was an immigrant kid raised around wealthy locals. My family was old school thrifty (Scottish) and extra money for anything not critical for life and limb was a concept outside of my reality. My friends had lots of toys and cars and roller skates you name it. I kind of lived in a state of envy as a kid. However, as I age, I find virtually everyone no matter how blessed they may appear to be finds a challenge for themselves. I guess i would try to focus on my own blessings in your case. Though your neighbor may appear blessed I guarantee you they have a burden of some sort that makes the whole picture a little different than it looks.

Does the guy have big muscles, OP? Asking for the Chris Hayes Has Big Muscles Troll.

Envy is wanting a life like his while Jealousy is wanting his life instead of him having it.

R44’s explanation fits the way these terms have been used for several decades.

Not exactly but getting warmer

OP you can't control what other people do

Focus on yourself

Well r38 I don't know about OP but I live in Florida where majority of your neighbors will likely be like this. And I aint just talking snowbirds either. Where I live I see the same younger people out walking their dogs when I leave for work and when I return home.

First of all, if you’re working so hard all day, how do you find so much time to monitor everything going on with this guy? This will all be solved by you getting a fucking life!

Also, only idiots assume they are getting the whole story from a limited perspective. Maybe his mother was murdered in front of him as a child and he’s now using his inheritance to find happiness the best way he can (like you should be doing). You’re seething through the window at your own deluded fantasies.

At any rate, some people play the game better than others. (Like scrabble) It’s not his responsibility to be miserable just to keep you happy. He probably could teach you a few things if only you’d stop being a fucking jealous weirdo.

If you only see his father, maybe his mother died and left a nice insurance policy or trust fund in his name.

Or maybe he won some money in the lottery.

Jealousy is "get your hands off my husband before I cut your throat" Envy is "I want to suck your husband's thick Italian dick"

OP? An old AA/therapy saying goes, "Don't compare your insides to somebody else's outsides."

Spend your life in service to others. Let go of attachment to temporary things.

I get it - it bugs me how supremely unfair life is. But you know, Darfur Orphan is looking at your life and thinking how great you must have it. So much about life is just unfair.

I hate your neighbor, too, OP. Smear peanut butter on his door handles, kick his cans over. Something Grinchy to right the wrongs of the universe.

Play some pranks, OP. Get things delivered to him, like the NAMBLA newsletter or a load of gravel dumped on his driveway. Tell the JWs to come over for a visit. Call CPS and tell them you heard a child screaming for help from his house.

That should rock his world a little.

And land you in prison for a while.

Everyone has cameras now. You might even get into trouble hosing down someone's walkway, since it's freezing at night. Think, Op, don't do. Prison probably doesn't live up to the dream, especially at Xmas time.

r51 is correct.

Is he on Grindr

^So blackmail? Get the bitch to do your bidding.

You DL gals have NO sense of humor.

R56

There's STACKS of gay men and lesbians like this.

They're only children, have never worked because... "things didn't work out; I could never find something that engaged me, etc; [insert additional lame excuses], and when their parents pop off, they inherit the lot, including (most importantly) the house.

I know a few of examples, so there must be absolutely ZILLIONS.

Oh, and they're very often not particularly rich, just middle class, or even working class, but have enough to muddle through life doing fuck all.

One prime example I know: a big upper-class dyke who inherited this FABULOUS California Bungalow-style house (but California Bungalow on steriods), with all the original fabulous wallpapers still intact and corridors of cabinets stuffed with all the original Society magazines. It's so big a house (a genuine dream house, like something out of a fantasy) she rents out rooms to students for extra income. Walks round wearing "MEN ARE PIGS" tshirts. I shit you not.